In Response to Dr. Segura on MMS

Friendly, professional mis-advice.


After the FDA came out with its public warning against the use of MMS, one of the first widely circulated articles in support of the warning was written by Gabriella Segura, MD. I’ve posted the article in its lengthy entirety below, with my own comments.

You can read the unsullied original by following the link.

MMS: Miracle Mineral Solution or Trojan Horse? Your Body and DNA Decide

The Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) is marketed feverishly as a miraculous alternative treatment for AIDS, hepatitis, malaria, herpes, tuberculosis, cancer and many more of mankind’s most feared diseases. The truth is that MMS is a dangerous poison, and as such it has no business whatsoever in the alternative health arena.

Strong statements. Let’s explore her hypothesis.

Many people do not know that MMS is essentially bleach.

What fewer know is that sodium chlorite, from which MMS is derived, is a salt. On the other hand, chlorine is also considered a bleach. If you have a chronic disease, it is FAR more likely that you have been exposed to chlorine for YEARS. People using MMS to generate small amounts of chlorine dioxide, are actually mitigating chronic diseases.

It’s very effective for killing bacteria in toilets, but you certainly shouldn’t be swallowing it.

This statement applies more to chlorine than chlorine dioxide (which is produced by activating MMS… however, the public is swallowing, and bathing in chlorinated water every day. Doctor Segura either doesn’t know this, doesn’t think it is significant, or doesn’t know the fundamental chemical differences between chlorine and chlorine dioxide.

The toilet reference is cute too. Bacteria in toilets is not a problem. Very expensive drugs, much stronger than chlorine dioxide, are being prescribed and administered daily for medicinal use inside the human body, not toilets. Yet, are becoming increasingly ineffective at killing pathogens, and more so at increasing one’s toxic load.

The active ingredient in MMS is not a mineral, but chlorine dioxide (oxygenated chlorine),

Calling chlorine dioxide “oxygenated chlorine” is like calling salt “sodiumized” chlorine. She’s attempting to assign the chemical properties of elemental chlorine to chlorine dioxide, when in fact, it has its own unique and very different chemical behavior.

which is formed from the chemical combination of sodium chlorite and acetic acid (vinegar) or citric acid. MMS as a poison does kill intrusive germs in your body, but it would be naïve to believe it to be carefully selective in what it kills and destroys, or to think that the damage done has only limited consequences.

What is a “poison”? Chlorine dioxide is an oxidant. On the other hand, chlorine interaction produces byproducts that could be correctly termed, poisonous.

It is shocking that MMS is recommended so widely, that it is recommended to already weakened individuals AND that it is recommended for long-term use. In truth, the potential long-term and dangerous side effects of regular MMS use should give anyone the shivers.

The writer appears oblivious to the travesty that the public is presently undergoing as a result of officially sanctioned and approved water treatment methods, along with other factors that follow below. Chlorination IS affecting the public now.

I found the following from

“A study published in the November 2006 issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology has reported a link between exposure to chlorinated water and an increased risk of bladder cancer. According to researchers, ingestion of, and bathing, showering, and swimming in chlorinated water can all lead to increased incidence of cancer.

“The study of the Municipal Institute of Medical Research in Barcelona, Spain, found that “long-term THM exposure was associated with a twofold bladder cancer risk” in households with high levels (50 or more micrograms per liter) of THM. (THMs, or trihalomethanes, are chemical by-products of chlorination.)  Researchers discovered that these chemicals invade the human body through ingestion of water, by inhalation and dermal absorption.  They also believe that THM that is absorbed or inhaled into the body does not go through a detoxification process in the liver, which may make the chemical much more dangerous in those situations.

“The results of that study showed that drinking highly chlorinated water raised the cancer risk by 35 percent and that swimming in chlorinated pools raised the risk by 57 percent. Those who took longer showers and baths in THM-contaminated water saw their risk of bladder cancer increase 83 percent.”

Dr. Segura talks about chlorine dioxide as though it could it be such a danger when used in concentrations associated with MMS. Those who know the difference understand that chlorination is a present danger, whereas chlorine dioxide disinfection, with its entirely different chemical personality, is showing itself to be effective at mitigating the danger, helping the user’s body restore its own health.

The news about MMS was spread largely by word of mouth as the public read Jim Humble’s story, listened to the available audio conversations on the product and protocol. Some watched and shared my documentary, then decided to try it out for themselves. A large percentage of them had already undergone years of debilitating illness and pain, for which medications were seen to be the symptom suppressants that they are.

Dr. Segura’s admonitions are made in a vacuum of evidence of harm, yet she appears oblivious to, or unwilling to acknowledge, ample evidence of beneficial effect.

Before we continue, an important lesson on oxidation and free radicals is needed to help us understand the long-term consequences of the use of MMS1 and its successor MMS2. This information is crucial to see why MMS is NOT an alternative health solution.

This is a “scientist?” No. This is a person with an agenda; to sell the reader on the idea of being fearful of MMS. She leaves no room for any interpretation of why chlorine dioxide use could make sense.

In spite of the damage that it can be shown to cause today, I can see how chlorination may have made sense when it was selected as the water disinfection method of choice many decades ago. But who could have imagined just how pervasive chlorine use would be?

As a further aside, did you know that 93% of all pharmaceuticals that are manufactured use chlorine? Did you know that chlorination is an industry that does $46 billion in sales?

Oxygen is an essential element that supports life, but in the wrong place or at the wrong time, oxygen can wreak much havoc on our cells, causing cancer, contributing to cardiovascular disease, degenerative diseases, and aging through a process called oxidation. You have seen the effects of oxidation whenever you have observed an apple turn brown and go bad after being exposed to air, or when you see the flame of a candle.

You can’t live without oxygen, and neither can normal human cells. On the other hand, where there is disease, there is normally an oxygen deficiency. Molds, yeasts, fungi, and tumors, all can exist where there is insufficient oxygen to support life.

Yet, if you took Dr. Segura’s explanation to heart, you’d be afraid of oxygen and normal metabolic activity.

What she also doesn’t tell you is that, if that apple turns brown, it’s because it lacks sufficient oxygen (energy) to sustain life, and is essentially dead. Nature is then signaled to begin the decay process. When there is insufficient oxygen within the body, the same process occurs. Chlorine dioxide differs from chlorine in that it delivers oxygen, and even then it’s only where needed, as determined by the activity of enzymes (respiratory nitrate reductase) that naturally occur in certain anaerobic bacteria such as Salmonella and E. coli.

Chlorine dioxide also has a net reducing effect on chemical toxicity. When you take it and it acts, your body will be less toxic afterwards than it was before. This may be one reason why people are reporting improvements in their health, because when pharmaceutical-based medicines are administered, the patient’s toxic load is increased. Nausea, diarrhea and vomiting under those circumstances are simply coping mechanisms by the body, with little actual improvement, because the environment itself – that supported the pathology (and dysfunction) in the first place – has not been improved.

Don’t you find the incredulity that MMS could be actually helping people – by the FDA, et. al, and by the writer, fascinating?

We use oxygen in order to take electrons from the sugar and fat molecules that we use for fuel.

Nowhere in any science book will you hear this kind of description of why we use oxygen. We need oxygen to breathe. Oxygen is one of the fuels that is needed to produce usable energy. And yet, we exhale carbon dioxide (CO2). We are constantly exchanging oxygen in one form or another. It’s part of how life as we know it is perpetuated.

The molecules we wish to keep intact, however, are subject to oxygen’s burning influence and they are at risk of losing electrons as well. The fire from a candle flame aptly illustrates oxidation in which the electrons of the candle wax are ripped off by oxygen in the atmosphere with the resulting, self-perpetuating release of light and heat. As oxygen makes its way through the body, many of its molecules lose an electron. This means that they become chemically unstable and highly reactive ions as free radicals are formed. These unstable metabolic by-products of energy production in cells strive to stabilize by ‘stealing’ a replacement electron from any neighboring molecule, leaving even more damaged molecules in their wake. This is how free radicals in our bodies are produced and cause inflammation, a process that is best known as oxidative stress or oxidative damage. Oxidation can even cause debilitating changes to your DNA.

This is simply a bunch of gobbledygook. She appears to be making a case against oxygen, something we cannot either live, or be healthy without!

Depending on where this oxidative damage takes place, it can lead to any number of the following diseases: atherosclerosis (plaque in blood vessels), cancer, arthritis, cataracts, neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer’s disease, autoimmune diseases, and many other health problems generally related to aging. Any free radical involving oxygen can be referred to as a Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS).

She is blaming these diseases on oxidative damage, when they are more likely caused by the lack of sufficient oxygen. I mean oxygen in sufficient amounts to nullify the effects of low level chemicals, heavy metals (aluminum, mercury, etc.).

By the way, some of the anaerobic microorganisms that tend to proliferate in oxygen deficient environments also go away when chlorine dioxide is introduced. Tests run by the USDA confirmed the presence of an enzyme, respiratory nitrate reductase, which governs the electron transfer function. Electrons aren’t “stolen” by ClO2, but given up when the right stimulus is encountered.

This enzyme appears to be responsible for releasing the ClO2 from the sodium chlorite (NaClO2), which in turn, kills the pathogen, its host. Aerobic bacteria are not hosts to respiratory nitrate reductase, and therefore, are not affected by the action of ClO2.

This finally answers the question of selectivity, which MMS denouncers have claimed is impossible. The chlorine dioxide does not “select” anaerobic microorganisms to destroy. An enzyme carried by the anaerobic microorganism triggers the transfer of electrons, thereby destroying the bacteria. Why? Because something that was needed for proper metabolic function — i.e., oxygen — had arrived, thanks to chlorine dioxide.

A perfect example of a ROS is hypochlorous acid, which is now also known as Miracle Mineral Solution 2 (MMS2). Keep in mind that the loss of electrons from molecules whose integrity is vital to the structure of our cell membranes, DNA, skin or eyes results in damage and disease. Oxidation is the most toxic force affecting all the molecules of the body; it’s the enemy of youth, the ally of all diseases, and the fundamental mechanism of all injury, all aging, and eventually, of death [1].

The only molecules that give up electrons are those connected to organisms that live in oxygen deficient environments. The lack of sufficient oxygen is a primary stress factor unto itself. There is no anaerobic presence without a preceding lack of sufficient oxygen.

If oxygen is delivered to the environment, then normal function has a chance to be restored, thereby ending the need for the anaerobic presence. Thus, the enzyme transfers electrons of its anaerobic host, and the host no longer exists, with no new toxic chemistry, e.g., chloroform, being created.

By now, you should understand why anti-oxidants are so important.

Although they are, it was not evident to me from her explanation.

Antioxidants help to counteract or neutralize the free radicals before they can damage our healthy cells by lending a hand (actually, an electron) when stabilization is needed. This is the reason why we are fond of so many antioxidants such as vitamin C, E, carotenoids, resveratrol, taurine, coenzyme Q10, and melatonin, to name but a few.

Chlorine dioxide is considered a free radical. However, it is a well-behaved one. Holding an oxidation potential of .95 volts, it is less potent than ozone, hydrogen peroxide, and even oxygen (O2), and doesn’t affect healthy cells, tissue, or aerobic microorganisms. That can’t be said about the other oxidants, or about antibiotics either.

Each person is exposed to oxidants and each one of us has a variety of antioxidant defenses and DNA repair ability. These factors together determine the extent of oxidant-induced DNA damage in each of us, and the levels of such damage may well contribute to cancer risk, especially in tissues where other changes may have already occurred. But keep in mind that DNA protection is essential not only to guard us from cancer, but also because in all of our cells, DNA carries our ancestral identity and the instructions and information that maintain our bodies. We might also wonder what other special properties could be lying dormant in our DNA.

A lot of talk about DAMAGE that hasn’t been supported by the evidence. What HAS been demonstrated is that present environmental practices, facilitated via current methods of water treatment as one example, are already causing the very damage that Dr. Segura projects might come from MMS usage. She fully ignores the positive effects that are being voluntarily reported by people who have used MMS.

Also, as for hypochlorous acid. It is a chemical that is naturally produced by the human body. That is, when the immune system hasn’t been literally saturated with toxic chemicals. Given the regular exposure to chlorinated water that Westerners get, along with the chemical remedies that doctors prescribe when their bodies finally get overloaded, it was a stroke of genius for Jim Humble to devise a way to give the immune system a boost of its own medicine. A small capsule of calcium hypochlorite when ingested, will provide a hypochlorous acid boost inside, where help is needed.

But for now, let’s get back to MMS1, which is basically the combination of sodium chlorite and acetic acid (vinegar) or citric acid which together form chlorine dioxide (oxygenated chlorine). The toxic effects of chlorine dioxide are associated with those of sodium chlorite – a very strong oxidant that at a dose of 10-15 grams is considered to be lethal.

She may be right about a dose of 10-15 grams of sodium chlorite being lethal, but what does that have to do with MMS? 10-15 grams of table salt, may kill you too. Sodium chlorite is a salt. It is natural. Too much of anything, taken out of context, can be damaging. Where is her acknowledgment of this simple truth?

Even small amounts of about 1 gram can be expected to cause nausea and vomiting.

Even 1g of MMS would be considered a VERY large dose. However, what one can *expect* from using MMS in recommended amounts, is a reduction of toxicity. If an individual is very ill, they are already very toxic. Dr. Segura writes as though healthy people are taking MMS, and it’s going to make them sick.

Conventional “modern living” is making people sick on its own. Then the medical treatment that most people are guided to keeps the condition in tact while appearing to mitigate symptoms. We’ve seen it enough. We get it. The jig is up!

Now get this: the MMS protocol suggests that taking up to 60 drops per day is within reason.

Some people have taken this much, but this amount has never been part of the protocol. And even that has changed, as Jim Humble has continued to refine the protocol from feedback he has received. The protocol now calls for a smaller number of drops (up to 3) spread out hourly over an 8-hour period (10 hours for acute cases).

There are 20 drops in one gram, which means that the protocol may call for the ingestion of 3 grams or more of what amounts to household bleach.

This is alarmist. If she correctly stated that chemotherapy is ingesting pharmaceutical grade mustard gas, then there would at least be some balance here. However, the characterization of MMS to “household bleach” is false.

I wonder how would she justify chlorination? Whether it is inadvertent or intentional, she is actually intermixing the chlorination chemical behavior with chlorine dioxide oxidation. They are distinctly different unto themselves.

If she were sincere (which I question), she’d beg the question of why the vast majority of the population is already being exposed to such “bleach” every day? I don’t hear her saying that chlorine is dangerous, although it is. She’s saying that chlorine dioxide might, and should be dangerous, although when used as outlined, it is not.

This is three times the amount required to produce nausea and vomiting and 20% of the amount required to kill you [2]. Even though we are told that nausea and diarrhea are positive signs of detoxification when following the MMS protocol, you can be sure that they are actually the way our body tells us that we’ve just been poisoned.

That’s certainly true for chemotherapy and a long list of other drugs, but doctors prescribe them anyway. The difference is that when diarrhea or other effects happen with MMS, the body will have actually reduced its toxic load. Healing can then occur.

If you happen to vomit, then be reassured that it might have saved your life by way of avoiding a lethal overdose of MMS! There are in fact several testimonials of negative side effects and at least one death related to MMS which you can easily find on the internet [2].

This is almost funny, but it’s not. With over 5 million people now, or having used MMS, there is but one death associated with its use, and MMS has not been shown as the cause. It was coincidental; it was involved, but that is as far as the evidence has taken anyone, over a year after she passed away. If chlorine dioxide was actually the cause, it would have been proven by now.

This is not to say that a death could never occur concomitant with MMS use. People will continue transition from this world as long as they enter it. The issue is whether chlorine dioxide is, and can be, an effective disinfectant, and whether simple disinfection is a viable treatment strategy in a myriad of disease pathologies. The answer appears to be yes.

Supporting this hypothesis are numerous reports of people who were virtually used up by the present medical system and its modalities, and on death’s door, who are not only still with us, but have restored their health. If even one such case can be documented (many more have), that would be reason to explore MMS with sincere interest, and not as a witch hunt.

The popularity of MMS and its fervent, almost religious marketing involved the claim of curing malaria in tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. Sounds very noble indeed, but this is only natural as MMS’ sodium chlorite is well known to cause hemolysis in red blood cells – meaning that red blood cells are ruptured and destroyed. It is actually by killing red blood cells that the malarial parasite is killed since it invades red blood cells. MMS probably kills the parasite and the red blood cells. In fact, MMS consumers may develop anemia.

Conjecture is conjecture, no matter who conjects it. She’s projecting her own false hope once again. The people who got over malaria with MMS (and I’ve met a few), knew when they had been cured versus when they were sick. For me, their knowing will trump Dr. Segura’s conjecture any day.

MMS really does sound like a dangerous allopathic drug, similar to antibiotics or chemotherapy.

Big difference. People from all over the world are reporting that they’ are getting better after using MMS. Not so with either antibiotics or chemistry (or steroids, coumadin, or yada yada yada).

Why is it that we don’t see many efforts to remove this poison from the market when in recent times there has been a push to remove healthy vitamins and antioxidants by agencies like the FDA and Codex? MMS is more of a killer than antibiotics and has the potential to kill all kinds of microbes including viruses.

This is actually an irresponsible statement, although since facts aren’t important, I guess it’s no more irresponsible than the rest of the article. Antibiotics kill in two ways, (1) by the imbalance that they exacerbate in an already compromised system, and (2) by the time, energy, and attention not given to giving the patient what was really needed… i.e., a restoration of balance. Balance cannot be achieved via synthetic chemicals. Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound, but it is not synthetic. It is natural, and it very effectively reduces overall toxicity.

Such a killer weapon has other consequences for your body, and killer therapies should never be the first course of action when dealing with disease. They should never be an option when we are able to take control of our health through diet and appropriate, real alternative health therapies.

I agree with her here. However, she doesn’t seem to have a problem being the harbinger of incorrect information.

Let us review some safety data sheets of MMS ingredients: Chlorine dioxide is a strong oxidant, and as such it reacts violently with combustible materials, mercury, ammonia, sulphur and many organic compounds [3]. Sodium chlorite is a strong irritant of the skin, eyes, and respiratory tract; a strong oxidizer that promotes combustion; concentrated solutions may be corrosive to the skin and eyes; mild hemolytic anemia and increased methemoglobin in males was observed in animal feeding studies [4]. Acute health effects of chlorine dioxide: ingestion is not a normal route of exposure (except thanks to MMS!), harmful if swallowed, can cause irritation to mouth, esophagus, stomach, and mucous membranes (hence, the diarrhea, nausea and vomiting!). Eye contact: contact causes redness, irritation, pain, blurred vision, tearing, corneal injury and burns. Inhalation: harmful if inhaled, coughing, headaches, labored breathing, nausea, shortness of breath, pulmonary edema. Chronic health effects: may have effects on lungs, resulting in chronic bronchitis and permanent lung damage [5]. In short, MMS should NEVER be a health treatment, alternative or otherwise!

All of the statements above are true, IF you’re using sodium chlorite by the gram, pound, barrel, or drum. That’s not happening with MMS. You would think that an intelligent doctor would able to discern and articulate the difference. I bet that she can, but is selectively choosing what she will, or will not see.

Now here is where things get even more interesting. Enter MMS2, which works more subtly and therefore more dangerously than its predecessor.

So what we saw above was the appetizer.

MMS2 is basically calcium hypochlorite, which is a chemical compound widely used for water treatment and as a bleaching and disinfecting agent (bleaching powder). This one is indeed a mineral, but a mineral that reacts to produce hypochlorous acid when ingested. Hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which is a combination of hydrogen, oxygen, and chlorine, is what some of our white blood cells produce in order to kill bacteria through the well-known process called oxidation. HOCl is a powerful oxidant indeed, and as I mentioned before, it is the perfect example of a hazardous reactive oxygen species (ROS). Just as with MMS1, pathogens can’t develop a resistance to MMS2 and this is related to the powerful free radicals that it liberates. Sound good? Well, not really. MMS2 is meant to create high concentrations of this dangerous oxidative hypochlorous acid in our bodies in order to kill ‘powerful and incurable’ diseases, or so it is claimed. Unfortunately, the amount of HOCl that our body is already capable of producing on its own is dangerous enough. In fact, some of our white blood cells have toxic and damaging effects on our DNA through the formation of hypochlorous acid [6, 7]. What is more, antioxidants are being studied and used successfully to block hypochlorous acid from creating DNA damage [7, 8, 9, 10]. Yes, DNA damage! This is dangerous to the extreme!

She’s saying that the natural HOCl output of the body is “dangerous?”_medium_bruce-lipton_49424[1]

The healthy human body is a symphony of diverse microbial and metabolic  processes, that work so well together we would be in awe, not in fear. A wonderful treatise on the workings of the human body and the evolution of knuckleheaded thinking that we endure today, is Spontaneous Evolution, by Bruce Lipton, PhD and Steve Bhaerman.

The oxidative process described by Dr. Segura reads like that of a mine field, to be traversed with great caution and trepidation. It is devoid of the innate intelligence and wisdom that is built in to each cell of the body.

Listen to this “grim” fairy tale.

Another way in which MMS2 can cause damage is through activation of ‘evil’ transcription factors. Free radicals such as hypochlorous acid and other toxins may cause transcription factors to initiate a series of genetic reactions that result in cancer.

She’s essentially saying that natural chemicals and metabolic processes initiate genetic reactions that cause cancer! The human body is a chemistry factory unto itself. Producing hypochlorous acid is just one of its ways to protect the host – meaning you and me. Dr. Segura would leave an uninformed reader nervous to simply be human!

Transcription factors are proteins that facilitate gene expression – that is, they cause genetic material to do something.

“They cause genetic material to do something?!”

A particular transcription factor, NF kappa B, is influenced by free radicals or toxins which usually activate it. Once activated, this transcription factor goes into the nucleus of our cells where our DNA resides and may activate genes that might change a potentially malignant cell into an absolutely malignant cell [8]. Hypochlorous acid (MMS2) activates this infamous NF-kappa B transcription factor, especially in the absence of antioxidants like taurine [11,12]. NF-kappa B has also a crucial role in inflammation, and thus ultimately it induces illness. That MMS2 is promoted as a cure for cancer and many other illnesses is just plain baffling.

People who have a compromised immune system that take MMS2 already have a deficiency in their capacity to produce hypochlorous acid. The positive results they’ve reported indicate that the small boost must have helped.

It’s not hard to comprehend how such a shortage in producing hypochlorous acid “immune factor” could come about. The following is but a short list of metabolic stressors that we expose ourselves to each day either as a function of environmental,  nutritional, or medicinal action.

  • Chlorination
  • Fluoride
  • Aspartame
  • Synthetic vitamins and minerals with missing cofactors that pass through the body unabsorbed
    • Beta carotene and Vitamin E (dl-tocopheryl acetate) – caused heart attacks, lung cancer (New England Journal of Medicine 1994)
    • Vitamin A – 22,000 women 400% increase in birth defects (New England Journal of Medicine 1995)
    • Synthetic Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) – caused thickened arteries in men (Reuters Health, March 2000)
  • Synthetic Vitamin D
  • MSG
  • Calcium Carbonate
  • Sucralose or glucose
  • Titanium Dioxide
  • Antibiotics, acetaminophen, steroids, and thousands of other allopathic medicines
  • Genetically modified (transgenic) products.
  • The list goes on, and on, and on…

Each one of these, and the many thousands of others that could have been listed, do not appear on the list of components and materials needed to “construct” or “repair” the human body. Instead, we are presented with what some laboratory scientist has convinced someone are “suitable substitutes” from trusted professionals… not just water treatment and the health care system, but agriculture (antibiotics and pesticides) and dairy (antibiotics and hormones), and the food and beverage industries (chemical additives) as well.

All of these are foreign to the human body and therefore either require supplemental metabolic actions in order to be utilized, or destruction, via oxidation, if they cannot be. Given the enormity of our synthetic addiction, it’s easy to see how the body could simply exhaust its ability to produce enough of its own natural chemical defenses, such as hypochlorous acid, which would safely oxidize these low level interlopers.

Again, the results will confirm or debunk the theory. Dr. Segura simply provides a fearful smokescreen while failing to see, or acknowledge the very real need for assistance that the body, especially a chronically ill one, might have.

But that’s not all, folks. It gets worse! In fact, hypochlorous acid (MMS2) has the power to chlorinate the building blocks of DNA, breaking the DNA double helix apart and thus interfering with its vital biological functions [13]. By the way, the new airport security scanners can break apart our DNA’s double helix as well [14]. Do we see a pattern here?

I rest my case. Yes, we see a pattern of doubt and fear being promoted without regard to, or concern for, observed results. If a person says that he or she experienced an improvement by taking MMS1 or MMS2, it would behoove a true scientist to say something like, “what did you do?” and see if the results are reproducible. Dr. Segura, the FDA, et. al, are running in the opposite direction. They want nothing to do with true observation, discovery, and reproducibility.

The public is discovering, learning, and understanding on its own.

Some claim that hypochlorous acid is hazardous only to intrusive germs, but there are actually studies that have determined that the properties of hypochlorous acid that make it such a potent bug killer agent can damage our bodies by the same mechanism used to destroy the invading pathogenic bugs [15]. One such study could not have a more appropriate name: “Living with a killer: the effects of hypochlorous acid on mammalian cells [15].

I trust nature to know what to do with hypochlorous acid, especially after learning that it is one of the body’s natural products of immune system response.

It has been well documented that there are a variety of disorders tied to the deleterious effects of hypochlorous acid in our bodies including diabetes, obesity, depression, hypertension, gout, kidney failure, and autism, among other conditions [12].

This is another example of where laboratory study, devoid of any natural context, provides us with useless understandings. The referenced article makes room for the presence of absolutely no other environmental factors. HOCl can be examined on its own to see how it behaves against lycopene, but this is not representative of the environment inside the human body. What will be present there? When HOCl is produced, it is with a specific purpose and intent, which is to protect the host. Dr. Segura doesn’t appear to believe such intelligence is innate at that level, or perhaps at any level outside her own skewed perspective.

This makes sense in view of our brief review of oxidation: wherever there is oxidative damage, there is disease.

Wherever there is oxygen deficiency, there is disease. Wherever there is synthetic chemical saturation, there will be oxygen starvation, and there will be disease. My description makes more sense than the doctor’s.

What is more, our brains have a high oxygen demand, and thus are particularly sensitive to oxidative damage. So it doesn’t come as a surprise that our mind is often the canary in the coal mine. We often notice our body’s first inflammatory effects through brain fog, memory problems, and insomnia. Hypochlorous acid has the potential to be extremely neurotoxic to our brains, where it literally oxidizes certain lipids and proteins, preventing them from performing their functions and contributing to neurodegenerative disorders like Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease and Multiple Sclerosis [16].

Talk about shooting the messenger. Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease, and even Multiple Sclerosis, are likely caused by damage due to heavy metal toxicity, from mercury and aluminum, as well as fluoride. Hypochlorous acid and chlorine dioxide appear to be effective at oxidizing, thereby inactivating these chemical luddites.

In addition, hypochlorous acid can be very dangerous in certain settings [17]. Its strong oxidative power makes the chemical very dangerous, because it can become explosive when combined with certain substances. Adding acids to a hypochlorous acid solution will precipitate this process, making the mixture unstable, releasing chlorine gas, and potentially causing an explosive chemical reaction. The compound needs to be handled carefully because it can release dangerous chlorine gas if mixed with seemingly safe household products. Chlorine gas can cause considerable health problems or death, especially in poorly ventilated spaces, which is one reason why it is inadvisable to mix household chemicals like bleach at random.

If you view the sun from the planet Mercury or even Venus in Bermuda shorts, you’re not going to enjoy the view very long. Yet, we cannot live without sunlight. It is a mischaracterization to paint chlorine dioxide, or even chlorine in such wide and negative brush strokes. Nature has a reason and a wisdom all its own that we should honor and respect. We should also recognize the sincerity of those who have used MMS and reported their results. Clearly, we haven’t won the war on disease. Perhaps we should declare a truce and engage in substantive talks with people who have cured themselves, rather than deny that such cures are even possible outside a laboratory.

Further complicating this tragedy, MMS is now being promoted with the use of DMSO [18]. DMSO (Dimethylsulphoxide) is a solvent which enhances the availability and effectiveness of many drugs throughout our bodies, thus potentiating their effects. It has the capacity to distribute a drug deep into our bodies. The worrying thing is that DMSO also very easily crosses the blood-brain barrier. This property is exactly why DMSO is widely used as an effective transporter of certain substances into our brains that may not otherwise cross the mentioned barrier [19]. Even though DMSO by itself is a powerful antioxidant, keep in mind that it has the ability to potentiate and carry a dangerous poison such as MMS1 and MMS2 into the brain. By now, I hope that it is clear why this is a very, very bad idea.

DMSO actually mitigates the harmful effects of many drugs, thereby “enhancing” their perceived effectiveness. And yet, it has very narrow FDA clearance for use in humans. You can buy it at a feed store to rub your horse down with it. Ninety percent of the DMSO purchased at such stores find human use, because it is as effective as Dr. Walker describes in his book. On the other hand, while it is an antioxidant, DMSO has also enhanced the penetrability of MMS. The two can be used topically, to great benefit, effectively reducing one’s toxic load.

Please give this article to any MMS consumer. They have the right to know what is going on within their bodies – and DNA – when they take this Trojan Horse!

I agree, because, dressed up under the guise of a wise and helpful physician, this article represents a clear example of the proverbial “pot calling the kettle black.” It shouts, “Trust me while I misinform and frighten you!”

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18 Thoughts to “In Response to Dr. Segura on MMS”

  1. tractoristu

    Dear Adam !
    One day you called me. I was mad about my order.
    Now MMS is part o f my life . My daughter was a teminal case, infections resistent ti=o antibiotics. MMS did it !
    Worked everytime i tried, me and may family overseas, frieds. DR segura it’s a joke ! I didn’t noticed any of her findings. I guess she lives on Jupiter . Well, I/m not a medical doctor ! I’m much better than that. And MMS i’t the best for our health I saw so far. A perfect antibiotic. DR segura, I don’t give a dime about your title. You are a lier ! MMS is not approved. Chemotherapy is approved and got more than one Billion victims ( With a B ). Beeing approved isn’t my thing ! It’s about control and not about Health.
    All cancer therapies are approved frauds. Dr my fat @$$ !

  2. Jelena Radivojevic

    I hope this article gets to as many people possible, who can be cured by MMS. Today 5 bottles of it arrived safely from SAD for my family:))

  3. Hello Adam and readers,
    Hope this finds you all well.

    There is another attack being made on the sites that sell MMS.
    The WOT (web of trust) Plug in for browsers rates website based on a community rating. While this was started with good intentions ( I believe), it leaves open a way for a small group of people to enforce their opinion.

    I recently found that a group of just a few people have taken it upon themselves to rate every website that has anything to do with MMS as having scams, malware, viruses, and are untrustworthy. They have my site, All of Jims sites, and well over 100 others…. everyone they can find, have been arbitrarily rated and show as unsafe when the site is loaded.

    There is no one to complain to, it’s based in Finland, so there is no protection from the libel. I wouldn’t care but a lot of people use this…. it’s a featured firefox plug in.

    The only way to change the rating is to have more people rate the sites and do it honestly. A lot of the folks that frequent here know me, and know I deliver what I promise.

    Am I taking this too seriously, because it really bothers me that I’m listed as an untrustworthy site,.

    1. I’m not surprised Steve about your info. We know ‘such people’ too and probably they are the same people. They bored individuals who look for media attention and have no scruples to write deformative letters and abusive comments on websites, as well as to councils and other authorities that will listen to their complains. They do anything to bully us into shutting up talking about our experience.
      They even brag about their success and frequently turn our words around in our mouth or put their own words into our mouth.
      One person frequently tells us…so you believe…instead of …do you believe…
      Anybody not agreeing with their opinion is either deluded, a quack, a liar,a idiot, or ‘you name it’…
      They write FAKE reviews under MMS …
      This has nothing to do with discussing MMS, this is internet bullying,and what really is a disgrace, is that most of them are youngster. Only few older people take part in this witch hunt, and those are usually people like doctors who clearly have a lot to lose if their patients start healing them self. But what really gets me is that they think they can call others whatever they like and they get away with it. or so they think… 😉
      What they do onto others will come back to them, one way or the other… 🙂

    2. I just found this link about WAT. maybe it would help to check in there and write about your concern that this feature is being abused by internet bullies to further their hidden agenda and sabotage anybody and anything they simply don’t like!

  4. Well, there’s a lot of pseudo-science in there.

    If anyone would like to look up the ACTUAL science of what happens when the human body is exposed to chlorine dioxide, I suggest you look here:

  5. Bruce

    Thanks Adam, Jim, et al, for providing some perspective on one more concerted and overwrought attempt to bring fear at any cost into the discussion over the massive “anecdotal” evidence for the effectiveness of MMS. It’s interesting that the detractors of MMS use the weapon of fear first and foremost. Jim describes the motivation of Dr. Segura and other professional fear-mongers as being either from financial greed or out of jealousy over the acceptance of their competitors by an awakening public. However, another major motivating factor is deep fear withing the system of Allopathic control of disease itself.

    Of course the profitability of Big Pharma is one thing that must be defended, but the fears raised by the prospect that humans are waking up to taking responsibility for their own health have much deeper roots than that. I think that the Big Pharma/Big Medicine/Big Government nexus is driven by more primal desires of control, and by a long-term program of stripping fellow humans of their innate self-reliance and ability to respond to challenges creatively.

    This is explained for me by the deepening web of delusion spreading in the world today due to our growing separation from life itself, and increasing hypnotic identification with the human Ego. The hierarchical structure of institutions, with its accompanying reliance on fear, manipulation, deception and outright lying, is absolutely understandable in the context of people who see themselves as apart from life and forced to use “whatever it takes” to maintain preeminence and control. As long as the controllers are in fear, they can’t consider letting go of strategies of defense, even when it seems obvious that the strategies no longer serve them. We are past the ridicule of MMS and well into the violent opposition phase. Already, the value of MMS has become self-evident truth for thousands of us who are breaking away from dogmatic reliance on “authorities.”

    By the way, Adam, at Jim Humble’s request we have put up a Web Forum for the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing at:

    I invite people to use this as an educational resource, and to help make it into a communications hub for the MMS movement.

    Bruce Tanner

  6. sagacious mama

    Kicked serious butt! Well done.

    People are so scared of this stuff and they keep pumping the fear into it with misleading and false “science” and get away with it because they studied drugs for a few years in uni. Doctors know virtually nothing about health and diet and nutrients yet their head is full to exploding with information about drugs and surgery (suppress it or cut it out, that’s the mainstay).

    Remember scurvy? Beri beri? Lethal diseases with simple causes like lack of vitamin C or B – and doctors in all their wisdom used to give those people medication for the symptoms instead of looking at what the body was lacking. They are STILL doing that, with many modern diseases they refuse to acknowledge have simple causes and instead give drugs. It is mentally deranged.

    So many diseases today are simply pathogenic, that is why if you kill the pathogens, the person regains health. It is no miracle, no big deal, really… so what?? Why carry on like it is freaky weird that many diseases are easily cured… Ooooh it MUST be snake oil, it couldn’t possibly be THAT simple. It’s like the world won’t accept the cure for a disease unless it comes as a herald from the sky in God’s own bloody hands.

    Get over it, if it is pathogenic, anything that kills pathogens is going to cure it. Simple. Malaria is one of the biggest killers of humans today, especially children, and to deny them this simple and fast remedy is … well, insane and downright evil. A body riddled with pathogens is going to display cancer, diabetes, strokes… you name it. It is no major scientific WOW that MMS and other anti-pathogenic treatments cure these things.

    1. Maybe the hole idea why some of them don’t like to admit MMS works is because they would have to admit playing RUSSIN LOLETTE with the health and life’s of mankind for so long without really taken the time to find something better.
      Jealousy makes people ugly.
      Many of them may just think: Why did I not come up with that solution!
      Now that would be OK if they left it at that, but some people can not leave WELL ENOUGH alone! 🙂

      1. I meant: Russian Roulette 😉

  7. Rhedda

    I requested, you responded in a timely, concise manner
    thank you very much.
    This kind of discourse is invaluable and as I previously submitted helps greatly to arm the common person with knowledge. One can focus for years on many areas of affect in the body and as new discoveries are made new questions are formed enabling us to become much more in tune with the knowledge of ourselves.

    As it stands today and as you have in other words pointed out before, very many if not most health care professionals in western medicine are trained to work under a basic assumption of patient ignorance and most often with a somewhat implied arrogance in their approach to patient care and treatment. We might link such an attitude to general arrogance in western society, nevertheless this certainly creates a complex which promotes a weak-linked relationship between the agents involved: The doctor, the prescription, and the patient, the latter being at an extreme disadvantage for lack of understanding of the dubious nature of the former two.

    I’d say that generally speaking, when a person lacks knowledge and comes to rely on another person’s expertise in a particular subject instead of striving to become knowledgeable in the subject themselves, that same one will rarely question the “expert”, much less the source of that expert’s presumed knowledge. Most any individual usually will have the understanding of hierarchy, that there is a trained person with a level of ability that exceeds their own and will therefore listen and concede to the other’s superiority. As in many cases of patient to doctor, when circumstances are often dire and decisions made out of desperation, the normal reaction is to listen and heed the professional going on hope alone that the doctor and the prescription are able to help relieve their ailment.

    The chasm between ignorance/complacency and knowledge/self determination within the patient /doctor relationship has been accurately depicted in a true-story based film I saw a few years back entitled “Lorenzo’s Oil”. It presents an excellent illustration of the issue of dependency on the medical system and fear-based – as opposed to controlled – decision making; a family, desperate to heal a very sick child, a medical and support community resigned to the false impression of a zero recovery prognosis, and a father and mother who tenaciously beat the odds by refusing to accept a defeated position in the battle with the disease which afflicts their child. The actual father of the boy depicted in the movie had this to say:

    “The real value of the movie has been to show people that in cases where you have a disease in the family or yourself, you have to be proactive — don’t wait for doctors to tell you what the remedies are…. I think the movie contributed to the changing relationship between doctors and patients.”


  8. I have read what Adam Abraham has to say about Dr. Segura’s article herein quoted with comments. I do not feel that Adam has been nearly harsh enough with Dr. Seguar. Her comments have been totally misleading now and on the internet for months. She has by this time ruined numerous people’s chances of overcoming their suffering or even staying alive by lying about MMS both 1 and 2. Adam has already pointed out most of the false and misleading statements that she has made, so I won’t go over those again. You can read above at her lengthy comments and Adam’s answers, I only want to comment on her irresponsible comments. By writing this totally false, misleading, and confusing article given about MMS she has destroyed the chances of anyone who believes her as a doctor from getting well from what ever malady they might have, or even as I have said, their chances of overcoming a death sentence.

    There appears to be at this time two kinds of critics ranting against MMS and it’s ability to save lives. The more sophisticated critics, only a few, seem to be doctors. They show themselves up to anyone who has any education in chemistry, or actually, almost any kind of education, as someone who is lying because no one can make that many mistakes about any subject without doing it delibertly. If she had made one or two or maybe even 5 mistakes one might overlook that, but dozens of mistakes all with the the obvious intent to debunk a life saving technology. One simply cannot make that many mistakes without doing it delibertly. It simply can’t be done by mistake, thus we have to assume that she did it delibertly. There is only two logical reasons why one would do that kind of a death dealing blow to fellow humans. The obvious one, someone is paying her to make such confusing and delibert statments and the other reason would be from jealousy. I just know that those people who now have life threatening diseases that believe her have lost one chance to live and the the chances are they won’t have another such chance. The jealousy reason can also be true and that might be the reason with this lady as well. If someone is paying her such as the pharmaseuticals, or the FDA, or the government, then this lady is selling her soul for a few bucks. Remember Judas? It was 30 pieces of silver. Sure hope she got more than that. On the other hand she is a doctor that has tried for a long time to do what I am doing, so it could be jealousy.

    You must understand that I am not mad at this lady. I don’t hate her or want to have revenge or anything like that at all. I only feel sorry for here. I am not writing this in opposition to her at all, but rather writing to attempt to tell people to please take a second look at MMS. This lady can’t hurt MMS or me. There are 5 million people who have downloaded my free book, the Miracle Mineral Solution of the 21st Century and one place is and many other places around the planet. People around the world manufacturer MMS in their kitchens and sell it to their neighbors or have it manufactured in a lab and sell it. I receive no money from the sales of MMS. I only feel sorry for the people who will not try MMS because of her and thus continue to suffer or die. And that is why I write this return comment here. It’s only for those people.

    Now I mentioned another group who are critics. That is the uneducated group. They don’t know, in fact they have no idea what they don’t know. They just start writing. They look nothing up, they check no facts. They just start writing and sounding scientific as most of them are fair writers with their own blog or Internet site. The too cause many people to go on suffering or die because people believe them. Both groups are totally totally criminally irrisponsible. With no knowledge of MMS, with no understanding, with no checking of the facts, with out checking chemistry, usually without even the rudimentary highschool science knowledge that like charges repell one another. They write whole articles with nothing correct in the entire article that is critical to MMS. These people are not a threat to MMS. They will not hurt the growth of MMS throughout the world. I only feel sorry for those whose chances that they destroy because people believe them. They creat negative Karma for themselves but those they convence die. The time will come that they will have to face their actions. Not from God or other beings, but from their own guilt. So, I could be wrong. BUT WHAT IF I AM NOT WRONG. PEOPLE’S LIVES ARE ON THE LINE. But you ask, what about the damage the MMS could do if you are wrong. Please, millions of people have taken MMS and no permanent damage ever reported. One death in which MMS was involved in the case, but no evidence that the death was caused by MMS. Equate that to the 200 children that died last year after taking a cold remedy. Check with the FDA if you don’t believe that statement.

    Jim Humble

    1. Thanks Jim for your kind words. I agree, those AAMF (anti-alternative-medicine-fanatics) do not for one moment think about the pain they are inflicting on people by simply denying them their free choice. Nobody forces anybody to take MMS here, but we are continuously under attack from those I-know-better’s.
      I know better from experience, and believe me Jim, if it was not for them making a mockery of our experience, I would have had written and said as much, but rather much less about MMS than I did.
      I would not have made a video, take part in several forums, German and English, would not have written reviews to your books and make people aware of fake reviews, and would not have made my experiences as widely known as I’m still doing.
      So you may say: they are shooting them self in their own feet.
      Keep up the good work Jim, we users are right behind you 🙂

    2. Jim, you are overlooking the biggest group of people who are criticising MMS. They are people who have noticed that you have not published any data on the efficacy of MMS in any peer-reviewed journals.

      Until you do, most people will believe you to be nothing more than a con-man.

      You say MMS cures people? Prove it. We’re not going to take your word for it.

  9. Now that you say it Dan, I remember reading this week on a German link, where a German doctor said that he helped 17 cancer patients in the hospital works. Some were healed and others just improved.
    He did not give his name, for as he put it, he would lose his job and properly go to prison, simply because he did not follow procedure!
    I think this stinks to heaven that procedures and laws are more important then the health of human beings and our lifes.

  10. Dan Aquilina

    I really enjoyed reading this article and your commentary, Adam! What a great piece of fear mongering by the good doctor. Adam, you did an excellent job of ferreting out the deceptions one after the other. I must say that you seem to really have a grasp of the biochemistry. I love how you point out the lies as she presents them to frighten us. Too, bad she won’t ever give it a try herself to test it’s benefits. Oh well, she could actually do real research on it but will not. The FDA and Pharmaceutical companies wouldn’t have it. And she’d probably lose her medical practice. Too bad we live in such an Orwellian world.
    Thanks again, Adam. And thank you Jim Humble!!!

  11. Lori

    Thanks, Adam Phaelosopher! This is one of your best rebuttals ever!

  12. Thanks Adam for the explaination to the letter of Dr. Segura on MMS.
    Now I do not know anything about chemicals, but what I know is that last year, after taking MMS, I was pain free.
    Now, after using some antibiotics, I have my asthma back. Those are facts I have the prove for. Whether this prove is accepted by our AAMF’s does not matter to me.
    I did not read everything this lady wrote for most of it is about chemicals, which I know nothing about, but when I saw her connection to this lady who was angry, because Jim Humble was more welcomed in Amsterdam than she was, I felt that somebody had an axe to grind here.
    I also find it strange that most people, including myself do not have diarrhea on going. I only had it ones after taken the first time 10 drops. Never again after that. So Jim’s explanation that it is the body getting rid of the toxic makes more sense to me. Nausea I only get from the smell of MMS, which I have no problems with at all. First I just breath trough my mouth to avoid getting sick and now I use the capsule which helps eliminating the smell as well as the bad taste.
    Keep up the good work Adam and don’t give up in the face of adversity. We no better, NO MATTER WHAT! 🙂

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