No Miracle, Just Wonderful Chemistry

[This article was first published September 9, 2007, and hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people have read it and shared with others. It had not been updated until November 7, 2021. Many of the links were no longer available.]

MMS De-Mystified

It was in August of 2007 that I had my first experience with something wonderful; that has implications for every one of us. It’s known as “MMS” or the “miracle mineral supplement.” But it’s no miracle, it’s just the wonderful use of chemistry. I call it wonderful because the results that using this taste bud challenging product yields, have been shown to be just that. Who can say that about cancer medication or standard medications for diabetes, stroke, or any of a long list of other medical conditions? The truth is, the results that we’re seeing from current predominant prescription medicines is atrocious. And yet, they carry on because that’s all that they know, and are “approved” to administer.

Why should their limitation be yours or mine?

I’ll say right here that MMS is not a medication for cancer, stroke, diabetes, or any illness. It is a water disinfectant, period, It effectively disinfects water, not only outside the body, but inside as well. While in some professional circles, there is a belief that the myriad diseases that humanity is experiencing are unrelated, the remarkable results that people are reporting after having used MMS strongly suggests that a greater truth has been, and is being overlooked. Due to the continued growth of this phenomenon, I produced a feature length documentary on MMS. But this article has now been read over 100,000 times, and is a great place to start your education on what MMS is, and what it can mean to you.

Water purification solution, available here.

The Basics

MMS is a chemical solution, but it is also a protocol or procedure that involves precipitating a gas, chlorine dioxide (ClO2-), in quantities small enough to be safely ingested, and large enough to kill pathogens that are presently living in our body, robbing it of energy, and poisoning it with waste material, and making it more vulnerable to disease. If this is not your situation, it is certainly the situation of someone you know and love.

Caution flags rise immediately when the term “miracle” is used to describe anything that amazes us, or when we don’t understand how it does what it does. They certainly did for me. In this case, it is indeed amazing. However, an explanation of why MMS is so effective as a pathogen destroyer is possible. It’s not the MMS that destroys pathogens; the chlorine dioxide that is generated when using MMS does that. When you understand the chemistry, you’ll see why it’s not a miracle… it just seems like one.

Humble Origins

Jim Humble (2010) taken by Adam Abraham

The MMS product and protocol was developed by Jim Humble, a gold miner and metallurgist, on an expedition into the jungles of Central America, looking for gold. It was a response to a need to help two members of his expedition who came down with malaria, more than two days away, through heavy jungle, from the next mine. After many years of experience, Humble always carried a liquid concoction often referred to as “stabilized oxygen,” which is really sodium chlorite (NaClO2), with him on such expeditions. The purpose of this solution to make local water potable. Facing the possibility of a quick loss of life, he gave it to the stricken men. To everyone’s amazement, they were both well within a few hours. That sure seemed like a miracle (as well as a huge relief), but Humble wanted to better understand what had just happened.

Over the course of several years, Jim Humble figured out that what made stabilized oxygen so effective in some malaria cases, was not the oxygen at all, but the trace amounts of chlorine dioxide. Further research led him to come up with a way to produce hundreds, if not thousands more units of chlorine dioxide than what is found in stabilized oxygen. This is through using a higher concentrate of sodium chlorite (28% — 22.4% effective sodium chlorite vs. 3% for stabilized oxygen), in conjunction with the activator. The proof of the efficacy of this simple protocol was in successfully helping over 75,000 people in several African nations – including Uganda and Malawi – rid themselves, primarily of malaria, but also hepatitis, cancer, and AIDS. I recently met a man in Sedona who contracted malaria on a recent trip to Africa. And what do you think helped him get over it quickly? You guessed it; MMS.

Jim Humble originally chronicled his experiences in two downloadable ebooks that were available at his web site, which is now (2021) jimhumble.co. The original book was titled, The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century. which, tells how it began, discusses the chemistry involved, and gives clear instructions on how to prepare MMS yourself. He has since written additional books, which are available at the site’s “bookstore”. Once you understand the chemistry, and the absolute absence of downside effects — outside of feeling nauseous and “expelling” when toxins and pathogens are dislodged — it becomes an option that anyone who may be on toxin overload must try out for one’s self.

Anyone can be on toxin overload. Some are but won’t admit it. Others would prefer to think they’re not. If your health is not perfect… you’re habitually low on energy, have trouble keeping your weight down, or blood pressure in the normal range, or constantly dealing with inflammation or pain, then there’s likely a toxin, heavy metal, virus, bacteria, or parasite issue in play. Traditional medicine will typically respond by loading you up with additional pollutants, many of which indiscriminately kill healthy tissue and necessary microorganisms, while going after “the bad guys.” Not so with chlorine dioxide. It only acts on harmful presences. Miracle or not, the effects are wonderful. I’d vote for Wonderful Mineral Supplement in a heartbeat!

Over the next few pages, I’m going to describe the MMS protocol. When followed, it will produce and distribute chlorine dioxide to your red blood cells, which is the most effective and intelligent pathogen killer known to Nature.

But first, a little background on the chemistry.

Chlorine dioxide and chlorine are not the same. Chlorine is a chemical element. In ion form, chlorine is part of common salt and other compounds, and necessary to most forms of life, including human. A powerful oxidizing agent, it is the most abundant dissolved ion in ocean water, and readily combines with nearly every other element, including sodium to form salt crystals, and magnesium, as magnesium chloride. You can’t have life without the chlorine ion. However, in the diatomic state, Cl2, chlorine is deadly.

Chlorine dioxide is a chemical compound that consists of one chlorine ion bound to two ions of oxygen.

Oxidizing agents are chemical compounds that readily accept electrons from “electron donors.” They gain electrons via chemical reaction. This is important because relative to chlorine dioxide, a broad range of pathogens are electron donors. Conversely, all healthy tissue and aerobic microorganisms are unaffected by chlorine dioxide.

Chlorine dioxide is extremely volatile. You might call it “hot tempered,” but in a very beneficial way. This volatility is a key factor in chlorine dioxide’s effectiveness as a pathogen destroyer.

The compound is literally explosive; so explosive, it’s not safe to transport in any quantity. Therefore, it is common practice to generate chlorine dioxide “on site” at the point of use. Most chlorine dioxide production is done on a scale that would prove deadly for individuals, for example, in municipal water treatment systems, where it is beginning to replace chlorine because, unlike chlorination, chlorine dioxide water disinfection produces no carcinogenic byproducts. Chlorine dioxide is approved by the Environmental Protection Agency in safely removing pathogens and contaminates like anthrax. It was even studied by the National Institutes of Health in 1982 and found to be safe for human consumption. No one was looking at, or for its medicinal value, so a study like that could be done and results published. Something very unlikely in this day and age.

In spite of chlorine dioxide’s effectiveness in large scale water treatment, the concentrations used in such applications can vary from 500 to over 6,000 parts per million (ppm), which would clearly be deadly to an individual. Using the MMS protocol you will produce chlorine dioxide in the range of 1 ppm.

You will use the MMS solution, which is safe to transport, to make a pathogen remover that can be effectively applied inside the body.

The MMS solution is 28% (22.4% effective) sodium chlorite in distilled water. You can produce chlorine dioxide with a single drop, when an “activator” of lemon juice, or a 10% solution of citric acid is added. The latter two activators are recommended for people with Lyme disease. The mixing ratio is five drops of activator to every one drop of MMS (5:1).

If you are NOT using lemon or lime juice, using a 50% solution of citric acid allows you to generate chlorine dioxide using a 1:1 drop ratio of MMS and the activator. We’ll delve more into that later.

[ORIGINAL] “Applications” of chlorine dioxide range from 1 drop (with 5 drops of activator) to a maximum of 15 (with 75 drops of the activator), except in life critical situations, where the maximum may be doubled (and in some really acute cases, even more are used). A “maintenance application” is six drops, with 30 drops of activator added. After adding the activator, the chemical reaction that turns sodium chlorite into chlorine dioxide takes only about three minutes.

[October 2010 UPDATE] Today, the standard dosing of MMS has been dubbed by Jim Humble, PROTOCOL 1000. It is comprised of 3 drops of MMS (activated with 3 drops of 50% concentration of citric acid), taken hourly over an eight hour period. For very acute situations, use PROTOCOL 2000, which can begin with as little as 1/2 drop, and go as high as the individual can take without feeling worse than they already feel, each hour, for ten hours. Elevation of discomfort becomes the dosing limiter, as this indicates that the body is preparing to release already stored toxicity.

The activating ingredient in vinegar that makes the change possible is acetic acid. It also sets the stage for what happens when the chlorine dioxide ions enter the bloodstream. This weak acid acts like a blasting cap by lowering the pH of the chlorine dioxide, without setting it off. [UPDATE — Vinegar can be used, but is rarely called upon today as an activator.]

The natural pH of sodium chlorite is 13. Adding vinegar, lemon juice (or citric acid) creates about 3 mg of unstable but still harmless chlorine dioxide.

The Process

Let’s talk a bit more about how and why chlorine dioxide works for giving the immune system a new lease on life.

Volatility is what makes chlorine dioxide so effective when it contacts pathogens. As we’ve mentioned, chlorine dioxide is a safe and effective disinfectant in many municipal water delivery systems, hospitals, and even in bioterrorism response. It stands to reason that chlorine dioxide would be just as effective working in the waters of the human body.

Chlorine dioxide’s extreme volatility prevents pathogens from developing a resistance. Mainly because when they “clash,” the pathogens no longer exist. Yet, healthy cells and beneficial bacteria are unaffected.

While normal levels of oxygen in the blood cannot destroy all of the pathogens present under disease conditions, delivery of chlorine dioxide changes everything.

“Halt! Surrender Your Electrons, Now!”

When a chlorine dioxide ion contacts a harmful pathogen, it instantly rips up to five electrons from the pathogen, in what can be likened to a microscopic explosion… harmless to us, but terminal for pathogens.

The pathogen – an electron donor – is rendered harmless due to the involuntary surrendering of its electrons to the chlorine dioxide – an electron acceptor – and the resulting release of energy. Oxidized by the chlorine ion, the former pathogen becomes a harmless salt.

This process benefits a body that has become toxic.

Throughout the body, anywhere chlorine dioxide ions – transported via red blood cells – come in contact with pathogens, the pathogens give up their electrons and cease to exist. The chlorine dioxide armed cells only “detonate” on contact with pathogens, which include harmful bacteria, viruses, toxins, heavy metals, and parasites. All of these will have pH values that are out of the body’s range of good health. They will also have a positive ionic charge. The chlorine dioxide equipped cells do not oxidize beneficial bacteria, or healthy cells, as their pH levels are 7 or above, and hold a negative ion charge.

Chlorine dioxide ions will oxidize – meaning vaporize – diseased cells… anything that is acidic, with a positive ion charge.

[2010 UPDATE]

Jim Humble continued learning about chlorine dioxide, and understandings have evolved. One misunderstanding was that it acts on anything that is anaerobic by way of the negative/positive charge dynamics. He learned that there is another factor, referred to as Oxidation Potential, which is the measure of a chemical’s ability to gain, or lose electrons. Oxidation potential (also referred to as redox potential) of a given element is expressed in volts. For chlorine dioxide, that value is .95 volts. Anything that has a lower voltage than .95 will give up to 5 electrons to the chlorine dioxide molecule on contact.

By way of comparison, chlorine dioxide has a milder oxidation effect than hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), which has an oxidation potential of 1.78 and collects 2 electrons, or Ozone (O3) whose oxidation potential is 2.07, and only collects 2 electrons. [Source: Lenntech Water Treatment Systems] A healthy human cell has a natural electrical of just over 1 volt, which means that it would be unaffected by chlorine dioxide, yet, it has been long known that extended use of hydrogen peroxide or ozone is damaging to healthy cells and tissue. Yet, they are used widely today.

If the chlorine dioxide ions encounter no pathogens or other poisons, it deteriorates into table salt and in some instances, hypochlorous acid, which the body can also use. [2010 UPDATE] Jim Humble has also devised a way to help this process with what he calls “MMS2”.

A Pathogen Terminator (including Swine Flu)

Research has proven chlorine dioxide to be much safer than chlorine, as it is selective for pathogens when used in water. Furthermore, it does not create harmful compounds from other constituents in the water as chlorine does.

Numerous scientific studies have demonstrated that chlorine – part of the halogen family of elements – creates as least three carcinogenic compounds when it enters the body, principally trihalomethanes (THMs). There has been no such evidence of harmful compounds being produced from chlorine dioxide.

This is why, in 1999, the American Society of Analytical Chemists proclaimed chlorine dioxide to be the most powerful pathogen killer known to man. It has even been used to clean up after anthrax attacks.

A Journey into Chemical Alchemy

Once it is introduced into the bloodstream, chlorine dioxide performs a highly energetic acceptance of four electrons when it comes across anything organic or inorganic that has an oxidation potential less than .95 volts. This means that diseased cells, as well as chemical and heavy metal deposits, are essentially vaporized (i.e., “oxidized”) while healthy cells are unaffected.

Here is how it happens.

Red blood cells that are normal carriers of oxygen throughout the body do not differentiate between chlorine dioxide and oxygen. Therefore, after ingesting the MMS/chlorine dioxide-rich solution, red blood cells pick up chlorine dioxide ions that are deposited on the stomach wall where it normally gathers nutrients of various kinds before journeying through the body.

Then, when the red blood cells armed with chlorine dioxide encounter parasites, fungi, or diseased cells that are low energy (meaning electrical value), the “aliens” are destroyed along with the chlorine dioxide ion. If no such encounters occur, the chlorine dioxide will be carried to a point in the body where oxygen normally oxidizes poisons and other harmful agents.

If the chlorine dioxide doesn’t hit anything that can set it off, it will deteriorate, and thus lose an electron or two. This may allow it to combine with a very important substance that the immune system uses to make hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which incidentally, is another oxidizer. It is not widely publicized that hypochlorous acid is produced by the human body as part of its natural immune function. Yet, corroborating information is available if one is inclined to look.

This compound kills pathogens, killer cells, and even cancerous cells. Hypochlorous acid is so important, its diminished presence in the body is described medically by the term myeloperoxidase deficiency. Many people are afflicted by this condition. The immune system needs a great deal more hypochlorous acid when disease is present. Facilitated by the MMS solution, chlorine dioxide delivers it in spades, as does magnesium chloride, but that’s another part of the health discussion.

However, seeing how important hypochlorous acid production is to proper immune system function led Humble to develop MMS2, which is simply the introduction of a small amount of calcium hypchlorite Ca(ClO)2. When ingested hypochlorous acid (HOCl) is generated as the capsules dissolve.

The most salient point to know, is that chlorine dioxide has 100 times more energy to do what oxygen normally does, and yet, due to its lower voltage, does not affect healthy cells.

By the way, if you are totally healthy, there are no ill-effects from taking chlorine dioxide. However, your stores of hypochlorous acid will be increased, bolstering your immune system.

MMS works best to destroy pathogens that may be present in the body, when 2 or 3 mg of free chlorine dioxide are in the solution at the time it is swallowed. However, the body is supplied with chlorine dioxide in a “timed release” manner lasting about 12 hours. Be aware, that before you feel better, it is likely you will feel ill.

“Why Must I Feel Sick?”

While individual results may vary, many MMS users experience anything from queasiness, to nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. The nauseating feeling that you may experience would be the result of chlorine dioxide encountering, dislodging – hence the “sick” feeling – and then destroying pathogens encountered.

We are generally oblivious of the pathogens that are introduced to our body, especially after they have been stored in the tissue of various organs. Since they build up over time, they generally affect our health slowly, and cumulatively. Indeed, what is a pathogen?

According to Wikipedia, a pathogen is:

A pathogen, (from Greek πάθος pathos “suffering, passion”, and γἰγνομαι (γεν-) gignomai (gen-) “I give birth to”) an infectious agent, or more commonly germ, is a biological agent that causes disease to its host.

I believe that we have misinterpreted what true pathogens are. So you’re about to get my opinion here. Anything that is living does so with a mandate to sustain life. Not only its life, but the life within which it exists. That mandate applies to all life forms, including all expressions of humanity. While we don’t always act as though we care about life, we are among the group that would be considered, “living.” A pathogen, in this context, would be anything that is not living. It is static, and lacks any innate intelligence or awareness of its own. In addition, these pathogens have no vibrational corollary within the genetic code. In essence, they are not in the “book” of you and me, which contains the instruction set for constructing a human body, its many systems, and components. As such, any substance that is ingested that, by design, intention, or effect, interferes with natural metabolic processes, will tend to add to dysfunction rather than improve functionality. Synthetic chemicals, drugs, heavy metals — all inorganic — would thereby be pathogens. The microorganisms that show up as a result of pathogenic inundation, are their to protect and sustain life instead of to do it harm.

Chlorine dioxide does indeed reduce pathogens, by this definition. And when the pathogens are reduced, the microorganisms that appear to have a coincidental presence, go away.

In August 2010, I interviewed a woman, C.W. Reed of New Smyrna, Florida, who was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2009, and is cancer free now, after refusing chemotherapy and radiation that her doctors were offering, and including MMS in her treatment regimen. In January 2009 a hair analysis revealed extremely high levels of heavy metal toxicity in her body. A follow-up hair analysis in May 2010 confirmed that her body was free of heavy metals. Disinfection via chlorine dioxide is clearly beneficial. (Click here to listen.)

A word of caution; chlorine dioxide can take toxins out suddenly, which may result in a dramatic reaction. However, it passes in much less time than it took for the toxins and pathogens to accumulate. When the chlorine dioxide “goes off,” the electron stripped pathogens cease to exist.

As an example, one will almost always feel ill in hepatitis cases because the liver is induced to expel stored poisons, which are then destroyed by an army of red blood cells containing chlorine dioxide. It’s really no contest. But it doesn’t have to be something as acute as hepatitis.

Years of “leeching” of from dental amalgams can “innocently” deposit enough mercury to one’s system to steal innocence, rob vitality, and erase precious memories. Dislodging and vaporizing it will feel uncomfortable for a very short time compared to the time it took to accumulate.

If you feel sick when you take this protocol, know that your health and vitality awaits to rejoin you on “the other side” of the ill feeling.

If it has no “close encounters” with pathogens, chlorine dioxide deteriorates into constituents that are totally non-toxic. Nothing poisonous is left behind to build up, as is the case with many medical protocols. Medical treatments currently provide you NO way of removing the poisons when said poisons don’t work. You are left on your own in a strange land and diseased state, without a road-map back to health.

Nature’s chlorine dioxide, on the other hand, lasts long enough to do its job, then that which does not furnish the immune system with needed ions becomes nothing more than micro amounts of salt and water.

The chlorine dioxide has just a few minutes to do its thing, and then it no longer exists, leaving nothing behind that can build up, or do additional harm.

The Procedure

So the procedure is simple. All you need is your bottle of MMS, a clean, empty, dry glass, an eyedropper, and the activator (vinegar, lemon juice, or citric acid). The following procedure is taken directly from Jim Humble’s site (www.miraclemineral.org).

What is the Normal MMS Protocol [ORIGINAL]

[ADAM’S NOTE 2010: The following is as it was originally written in 2007, with minor modifications and updates. Over the past two years Jim Humble has continued to refine MMS intake methods, as well as protocols. The methods listed below are still correct, and have helped many thousands of people. But they do not represent the current “best approach,” which will be covered immediately after.]

Note: When following the instructions below, keep this paragraph in mind. Always activate the MMS drops with one of the food acids, either lemon juice drops, or lime juice drops, or citric acid solution drops (to make citric acid solution add 1 level tablespoon of citric acid and 9 tablespoons of water. Store it in a bottle with a lid.) Always use 5 drops of one of these food acids to each one drop of MMS, mix in a empty dry glass and wait at least 3 minutes, then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. (You can expand the 3 minutes out to 10 minutes, and after adding the juice or water you can wait up to an hour before drinking.)

  1. All protocols for taking MMS in the Americas start with one or two drops. Never start with more than one or two drops. People who are very sick and/or sensitive should start with ½ drop. Activate the drops as given above.
  2. If you do OK and do not notice nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea reduce the amount of MMS for the next dose. Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose. When you notice nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or bad diarrhea reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous. Note: If you notice diarrhea, or even vomiting that is not a bad sign. The body is simply throwing off poisons and cleaning itself out. Everyone says that they feel much better after the diarrhea. You do not have to take any medicine for the diarrhea. It will go away as fast as it came. It will not last. It is not real diarrhea as the body is just cleaning out, and it is not caused by bacteria or virus. When the poison is gone, the diarrhea is gone.
  3. Continue to follow the procedure given in 2 above. Until you reach 15 drops twice a day without nausea. At that point increase to 3 times a day. Stay at 3 times a day for at least one week and then reduce the drops to 4 to 6 drops a day for older people and 4 to 6 drops twice a week for younger people.

Note: Once you have completed step 3 above most of the viral, bacteria, mold, and yeast load will be gone from your body. Your body will be clean. You no longer have to worry about feeding the microorganism load. You can base you diet on nutrition, rather than not feeding the load. The diabetes will be gone, thus you no longer need to worry about sugar. You won’t have to worry about the pancreas over reacting thus giving you a shock of insulin. Instead it will give you just enough insulin to knock the blood sugar lever to the right level (You won’t feel sleepy after eating a candy bar). Your body will then be able to easily adsorb vitamins and minerals and many other nutrients it might have been missing up to this time. You should feel better as time goes by. Do not quit taking the MMS.

2010 Updated MMS Protocols

Activator — MMS is not chlorine dioxide. MMS is an ingredient that is needed to produce chlorine dioxide in the privacy of your own home. As we stated earlier, an activator is needed, that will be used in conjunction with MMS, in order to break the chlorine dioxide from its sodium bond. In the beginning lemon or lime juice was used, which is a 10% solution of acetic acid. Therefore, Jim Humble initially suggested using a 10% of citric acid to activate. This would allow for a single description of the MMS protocol, irrespective of what was used to activate. However, using the 10% solution required that five drops of activator be used for each drop of MMS (5:1), and waiting 3 minutes before using.

In time it became very evident that using a 1:1 drop ratio is much simpler than 1:5, and that this is easily achieved by upping the “mix” of citric acid to 50% from the current 10%. In other words, making the activator 5-times more potent allows one to get the same benefit using 1/5th as much. The other benefit of this approach is that the chlorine dioxide generates MUCH faster.

Originally, you would wait three minutes while the solution turned from clear to yellow. Now, as indicated in the photo below, you’re ready to go in about 20 seconds, and the solution goes from clear to brown.

 

Updates in MMS Preparation
Shows difference in original and current activation methods.

Protocol 1000

Don’t ask me how he named them, but these are names for the most basic, and commonly used method of MMS intake, which will be oral. In spite of what the FDA and numerous agencies around the world have now claimed, taking chlorine dioxide in the amounts indicated here will not cause harm, but if an individual is in a toxic or chemical red zone, will bring about a disinfection that helps restore enough balance to allow the immune system to re-establish itself. Protocol 1000 is the standard oral intake method, which consists of 3 drops of MMS, activated with 3 drops of citric acid, per hour, for eight (8) hours. It should be used for 3 weeks, or until well.

The video below shows explains and demonstrates the dosing:

[This video was taken off YouTube]

Protocol 2000

Protocol 2000 is for extreme health red zone cases. It calls for greater sensitivity to just how acute an individual’s situation is. If the individual has been released from the doctor’s care and told to call hospice and get their affairs in order, then Protocol 2000 is a good bet. However, instead of starting out with 3 drops, you would begin with 1/2 drop per hour, monitoring to see what effect, if any, the dosing had on how the individual feels. If they feel worse, then do not increase dosing. If they have no reaction, then go to 1 drop, etc. Unlike Protocol 1000, which is 3 drops only, Protocol 2000 will be to go up as much as is called for, using the individual’s nausea level as a limiting guide. If they begin to feel more nausea, then do not increase the drops. The other distinction of Protocol 2000, is that it goes for 10 hours/day instead of 8. Everyone needs a time to rest, and allow the body to regroup and repair itself.

Another convenience Jim Humble has suggested, is to use a drinking bottle to carry your daily MMS dose. Instead of preparing 3 drops per hour eight times, you can prepare 24 drops one time (activating with 24 drops of 50% citric acid), and add it to the water. Mark the bottle with a Sharpie to indicate the levels to drink to each hour.

 

Daily dose MMS drinking bottle.
Mix your MMS once, use throughout the day.

Oral is NOT the Only Way to MMS

While it is natural to think of oral intake, there are many other ways to use MMS. When I produced the original documentary on MMS, oral intake was pretty much the only way that we covered. Jim Humble was, at that time, determining the effects of intravenous MMS intake. Never to be one to sit still, he has continued to expand the intake options. Here is a brief overview.

MMS topical spray on an abrasion wound.
MMS topical spray on an abrasion wound.
  • Topical Spray — Useful for a wide variety of situations, from burns, wounds, to infections, deodorant, and much more. The natural biocidal properties of chlorine dioxide can be invaluable in reducing the pain associated with such wounds (because it neutralizes acids, without adding to the individual’s overall chemical state. Prepare by using 10 drops of MMS per ounce of water used. For example, if you are using 2 oz of water in a spray bottle, then use 20 drops of MMS and 20 drops of 50% citric acid to activate.
  • Oral Hygiene — Great bacteria reducer (and bad breath), improved gum health.
  • Bath and Foot Soaks — Great way to bypass the gastrointestinal (GI) track and get chlorine dioxide directly into the blood stream.
  • Topical Variant with DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide)
  • Inhalation — Using an humidifier or nebulizer to get small amounts into the lungs.
  • MMS Gas — Using total immersion (up to the neck) with garbage bags, or for small surface areas with a glass.
  • Enemas — Remarkable results with no concerns over taste.
  • Intravenous — Can be useful, but is complicated and definitely not conducive to self dosing.
  • Capsules — Use small gelatin capsules filled with activated MMS to take an hourly dose without any taste concerns.
  • The 6 & 6 Protocol — 6 drops MMS1 (with 6 drops 50% citric acid activator), then repeat in one hour. For colds, flu, etc. that result from a polluted inner ecology.
  • The Malaria Protocol — 16 drops & 16 drops, then repeat in one hour.

You do not have to use much MMS in order to achieve a noticeable, palpable effect.

Introducing MMS2

Everything that we have discussed thus far involves the original chemical that Jim Humble discovered that could be used to better effect in treating medical conditions. However, his discoveries didn’t stop there. As noted earlier, the body naturally produces another chemical, hypochlorous acid, as part of its immune system function. While it may be due to the pervasive influx of chemicals entering the body from sunup to sundown, or to the many other cellular stressors that we knowingly or unknowingly encounter each day, it is reasonable to surmise that a boost in hypochlorous acid might be helpful.

It was so easy to find out. Hypochlorous acid is generated by the breakdown of a small amount of calcium hypochlorite, which is available virtually everywhere as a pool water disinfectant to prevent algae growth. However, the labels are ladened with warnings against any use other than adding to pool water, where in fact, the chemical will enter the body.

MMS2 is prepared by placing a small amount of calcium hypochlorite into a size “0” gelatin capsule, swallowing and washing it down with some water.

The ‘Healtholution’ Will Not Be Televised!

Even though the standard dosing of Protocol 1000 is three drops per hour for 8 hours each day, you don’t have to begin with that. You can start at a more modest pace, for example, with 1 drop of MMS1  (using 1 drop of activator) each hour. Once you see what kind of reaction occurs (if any), you can increase the number of drops, either the next hour, or on the following day. The old 15 drop maximum, which will work, is now considered passé. THE MOST ACUTE TOXIC OVERLOAD SITUATIONS WILL WARRANT PROTOCOL 2000. Your body WILL tell you when you’ve reached the optimum dosage for you.

You should consider an intestinal cleanse before starting your MMS detoxification program.  Why? Because the more acute or “chronic” your condition, the more likely it is that you’ve got compacted fecal matter (a haven for parasites) lining the 28 foot length of your colon. Laxatives are ineffective at dissolving this stuff.

An all natural blend of oxygen and magnesium...
An all natural blend of oxygen and magnesium…

Oxy-Powder is an all-natural product, developed by Dr. Edward Group III, that comes in capsules (120 to a bottle), whose main ingredients are oxygen and magnesium. Take four capsules on an empty stomach before going to bed, and the next day you will be going to the bathroom 5-7 times. (I went more than that for awhile, so your “bathroom sitage” may vary.) Initially, the discharge from taking Oxy-Powder will be almost black. This isn’t pleasant stuff to look at, but be thankful that it’s no longer in you. It’s all what contributed to your body’s current condition. Taking this before beginning the MMS protocol will make the MMS/chlorine dioxide have to work that much less.

Fortunately, the Oxy-Powder isn’t unpleasant to take, and does the dissolving and dislodging while you sleep. You’ll know it has done its job when a dark, muddy “background” no longer accompanies your bowel movements. (Click here to order Oxy-Powder)

In general, the pathogen clearing using MMS will not be comfortable, but it need not be intolerable. The Oxy-Powder prep work should make it even smoother.

You may feel like you’ve been through a battle, and in a sense, you have. It’s a battle for domain over your health, and hence, your life. Before you can be healthy again, you need to take out the old “garbage,” destroy toxins, pathogens, and parasites. In order to do so, they have to be uprooted and released from their “strongholds” in your body tissue. You will feel the effects, but is a good thing. You will also feel health, again.

The sick feeling will be TEMPORARY, a small price to pay for the longer term possibility of lasting restored health, no matter what stage of life you happen to be currently experiencing.

When the clearing is done, you won’t need to take the maximum dosages. You can go on a maintenance application to keep your insides pathogen free and immune system strong.

A few more words about fruit juices. They can be substituted for water as long as they are freshly made. Do not buy them off the shelf and use them, and DO NOT use orange juice. Orange juice prevents the production of chlorine dioxide, as well as anything that has vitamin C added as a preservative.

I hope you have found this information helpful. The product known as MMS is not really chlorine dioxide, it’s not even a miracle. However, it is a safe and effective way to create one, by introducing a sure fire way to bolster the immune system and eliminate a full range of harmful pathogens, by delivering Nature’s pathogen destroyer, chlorine dioxide, into your body.

When combined with the rapid toxin removal power of chlorine dioxide, mineral replenishment with magnesium chloride and detoxified iodine for the thyroid, can point those with even the most acute conditions in the direction of some seriously wonderful well being.

Hear It

Jim Humble, developer of the MMS protocol, is my guest on Talk for Food. You can purchase this conversation on audio CD by following this link.

A second Jim Humble interview is titled, MMS Simplified, which you can listen to here. We discuss getting started, especially for people with acute disease challenges, “detox” vs. toxic nausea, comparative oxidation therapies, chelation, cancer treatment, and oral health.

The third is on cancer…

April 2009: Jim Humble speaks about swine flu and MMS.

NEW: From Bahia de Kino, Mexico. A face-to-face “on location,” “in studio” interview with Jim Humble. To listen, click here. << link broken… fix pending. AA~

MMS Video Development Announcement

November 26, 2007 — I am planning to visit Jim Humble for some up close and personal dialogues. Click here to read, and learn how you can be involved.

MMS Workshop DVD Set Cover Art
MMS Workshop 8-DVD Set

December 9, 2007 — I’ve been to Hermosillo and follow the MMS Video Diary entries of early December 2007.

December 22, 2007 — I traveled to Tijuana, Mexico and interviewed Dr. John Humiston, who uses MMS both in his practice, and personally. Follow this link to read, and view an embedded video clip.

February 9, 2008 — Video production and editing is completed, DVD’s are being manufactured, and first orders will commence shipping by February 18, 2008. Click here to view the latest video and order.

April 1, 2008. New web site for the video production > www.understanding-mms.com with store for ordering the DVD. The standard retail price of $29.95 goes into effect. Volume discounts are available.

Here’s a trailer for the documentary.

Over 100,000 people have read this article, which has served as a basic primer for MMS use. There is much more to MMS than can be practically covered here. However, if you are interested in this article being made available as a booklet, please let me know.

November, 2010 — The MMS Workshop video is now available in an 8-disc set. New protocols, new methods for myriad applications. Shipping begins November 8, 2010. Over eight hours of presentations. $350. Quantity discounts available. More information.

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  3. Lisa

    Hi, I assume you can mix a daily 10 hour supply of mms using the marked water bottle method as long as you keep track the volume you consume each hour. I’m asking as I did not read that you can do this for Protocol 2000. Does the chlorine dioxide not dissipate while it is sitting in the water?

  4. mike

    where can I purchase mms. please help

  5. Alissa Joy

    3 years ago, I urinated in a dirty river and I have had an infection in my bladder caused by a parasite ever since. The most effective treatments have been antiparasitics and Protocol 1000, which helps manage the symptoms, but does not cure the infection. The infection comes raging back within hours of ceasing treatment. I have to set my alarm all night long to keep an even dose of medication in my system. I am exhausted.

    I would like to use CDS administered via catheter directly to the bladder to fight this infection. But I do not know what concentration will be best.

    My naturopathic doctor believes in MMS and secretly uses it in her washington state clinic to help many patients, but she does not want to prescribe the catheters unless I have a reliable source to indicate what concentration of CDS I should use.

    I was thinking three drops of CDS in 16 ounces of IV solution. Thoughts???

    1. Dear Alissa,

      I would suggest that you consider going on a fast for at least 4 weeks. Our body doesn’t take on parasites because we pee in rivers. It takes them on when we eat processed, artificial foods with LOTS of synthetic sugar and other chemicals, and don’t give it what it actually needs to maintain our health. Drink lots of water. After a week or so, start drinking NATURAL juices; unpasteurized orange juice if it is available. It will HELP your body flush toxins out while you are on a moratorium of putting more in. You will feel hunger, but these are WITHDRAWAL reactions, as in an “addiction”… it will pass. We’re ALL accustomed to tinkering with the body, not realizing or respecting that it KNOWS what needs to be done, and HOW to do it, when we learn what it needs, and DOES NOT NEED. I don’t have to know your diet to understand that you’re taking in stuff that is causing your parasites, then blaming the infection on peeing in a river. It’s what we do. (I’ve done it too.)

      Best regards…

      1. meli

        Hey Mr. Abraham, just in response to your thoughts above, I was under the impression that while artificial and processed “foods” encourage parasites, one could get lots of unhealthy parasites from bodies of water, particularly in tropical places and not necessarily as a result of poor diet, or just from living in places where pathogens are thriving in the environment people use every day. Any additional thoughts?

      2. Omar

        MR ADAm any info how to cure genital warts please thanks

      3. Find out where and how your body chemistry is out of balance, and restore it (balance).

  6. Dave - Australia

    Read somewhere in the comments that there isn’t enough positive testimonials around… so thought I would quickly share my experience with it. It’s nothing extraordinary, I don’t have any serious disease or anything, but since I have first hand experience with it, i thought it might be useful.

    I took MMS about 5 years ago… I never used it on a regular basis, only when I got a cold/flu, virus, or something similar. I often get cold sores on my lip and would take MMS once I felt the colds sore coming up.

    Basically, whenever I got sick, I would take about 3-5 drops. Usually after just one dose the cold/flu would be gone. So the MMS just sat in the cupboard for months on end, and I would only use it when needed. I did experience some of the symptoms described, mild stomach pains and diarrhea, for about an hour or so. Then within a few hours I would be back to normal, feeling great, and the cold/flu/coldsore would be gone.

    The final time I took it was probably a bit of stupidity on my part… I caught a really bad virus, I was feeling weak, achey, run down… basically the virus hit me pretty hard and I felt like absolute SH*T. Thinking that I would need a stronger dose for this one, I stupidly took 15 drops. (Later on I learned that 15 drops is usually given to someone with Malaria). The next 4-6 hours were spent crawling from bed to toilet (diarrhea and vomiting), back and forth several times… cold sweat and weakness, and excruciating stomach pains… after a while I just stayed in the bathroom, sprawled out on the floor feeling horrible. Eventually I managed to get back into bed and sleep, exhausted from all the fluid loss.

    The next day I woke up, and surprisingly felt fantastic. After a good breakfast and lots of water, I was feeling fresh, strong, and lively. Needless to say, the virus that was knocking me around in the few days prior was completely gone. I felt like it was never there to begin with. No lingering weakness or recovery like you usually get from a bad virus… I was just 100%.

    In all honesty, after that I couldn’t bring myself to even smell MMS again. Kind of like when you get really drunk on a certain type of spirit and then completely go off it, not being able to even imagine it again. I still think MMS is a great product, as long as it’s taken in moderation and according to instructions. I failed to do that, which is probably why I had such a reaction. Also the fact I wasn’t a regular user so my body did not have any tolerance built up probably played a factor, too.

    In the last 5 years, I have just dealt with cold/flu type situations the traditional way, ride them out and dose up on some cold/flu Pseudoephedrine tablets. Being a healthy 32 year old now, I haven’t really needed MMS, but I am considering buying it again to keep for those “just in case” type situations when something nasty comes around again.

    Hope that gives some insight to people who are considering trying it.

  7. Andrea

    Can anyone tell me why we shouldn’t do the MMS protocol if we are on blood thinners?

    1. Andrea — you might learn what blood thinners do, and the conditions that cause them to be deemed necessary by orthodox medicine. They are administered due to an ongoing buildup of plaque in the bloodstream. In this case, plaque is not a “sticky buildup” on your teeth, but along the lining of blood vessel, the vast majority of which are VERY small, some are so small that blood cells must pass through in single file.

      Understand that your blood MUST pass through ALL areas of the body, otherwise, LIFE in that section will die. So plaque is a BIG thing.

      That is the medical logic behind blood thinners, or anticoagulants. They address the problem by either inhibiting the body’s clotting response. They do not address or eliminate the reason that the plaque blockage formed in the first place. Instead, they exacerbate the problem.

      The plaque formed due to an imbalance in certain mineral in the blood, which would constitute a balanced environment, and would cause the plaque (which is calcium) to dissolve naturally and safely. Plaque is also a result of dehydration. This not only means drinking an insufficient amount of water being consumed, but also, the STATE of said water. Certain beverages, including many “energy drinks”, actually dehydrate, due to the big molecules that they are created with. Hydration only occurs within each cell, and only certain mineral combinations are taken inside, if they are in the blood. Malnourished cells mean no energy production (ATP), and a decline in health, along with the buildup of plaque.

      One of the chief minerals is magnesium, but there are others, including chloride. There are others.

      Your task is to restore mineral balance in your bloodstream by any means necessary. Cellular hydration is achieved only through the intake of energy-rich water. As you change your inner environment, plaque will go away its own. If blood thinners bring balance to your blood, then I’m all for them. However, if they do not, then you’ve got a more fundamental decision to make first than whether to use MMS.

  8. I have Chronic Lyme disease and due to blood thinner reactions to most antibiotics, nothing has worked for me. I started with 1/2 a drop the first day–took it once a day and went to one drop once a day. I am having herzheimner reactions, weakness, and lyme symptoms escalated. I also have a weak heart probably caused by the lyme as well–only half my heart works from 3 heart attacks. So I am super cautious as to what goes into my body. Jim Humble claims if you get sick, back off, but you say one almost has to get sick in order to get well. I see a lot of contradictions in both your comments and in Jim’s book which I bought –and that worries me. I am counting on this to be my last chance miracle cure.

    Please advise.

    Micki Peluso

    1. Dear Micki — Please know that there are many ways to get where you want to go. Do not place additional stress on yourself by thinking this is your “last chance.” I can’t speak to any contradictions you see in Jim’s books. If you have questions of me, please ask. However, this article was first published in 2007, and updated a couple years later. That being said, I believe that you may find the video linked here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWjz9pB70vc helpful. This is not about MMS. It is about something more fundamental, that I believe might help. There is plenty of reference information available, should you be interested in learning more, or going further in that direction.

    2. Hi Micki — Please realize that your body is now coping with the adverse effects of antibiotics, as well as the original condition that brought on the Lyme state itself. That original condition was/is an imbalance, or insufficiency of certain minerals in your blood… not a bite from a tick. Your body is also dehydrated, as antibiotics will tend to do that, as well as most beverages — coffee, “energy drinks”, and more — that are not water. Oftentimes, even the water we drink won’t sufficiently hydrate, given the chemicals they are treated with, and the normal degradation of their energy state during the journey to our homes. I would suggest that you read one or more books by Dr. George W. Carey, including “Wonders of the Human Body” and “God-Man: The Word Made Flesh.” They are available as books, and free downloads. I would also suggest that you look into the work of Rene Quinton, who helped thousands of people heal using Marine Plasma (sea water) to great effect.

    3. Sam Mukherjee

      I agree, find some contradictions. In the part that describes the chemical part there are contradictions too. Describes it as electron donor and acceptor almost in the same sentence. I would expect a little more in-depth chemical explanation using modern reaction mechanisms. No clear description of what happens to the residual product in the body. Just saying it does not exist anymore does not make scientific sense. Moreover I would like to know the reactions if any at the kidney. Any clinical tests done specifically on that?

      1. CINDY

        How about you research it, then come back and inform us? Sound good?

  9. Martin

    I can see some good arguments for and against MMS and must admit the lack of people posting their positive experiences for the world to see isn’t helping. Though not a scientist myself i am able to understand the basics so i am sold on the science of it. I have tried it and did experience vomiting etc but that’s because i started off using too much too soon. I reduced the dosage on my second try and had no problems. I’m trying to rid myself of Genital Herpes and am glad there’s something out there that may help that’s all i ask. If it doesn’t work at least i tried riding myself of this invader. Not sure if its gone yet and musy admit i haven’t used it for the length of time specified but no break outs yet. It’s difficult to stick to it because of the eating issue and also it makes you smell and i have to be around lots of people often during the week. I’m not against MMS at all but why is it so difficult to find the floods of positive testimonials out there that there should be if it is curing people just a couple of forums with just a few posts dating back some years ago now. I understand some people wouldn’t want the world knowing they had a disease but surely there should be still quite a few who still come forward for instance on Youtube. Its one of the major things i am concerned about.

    1. Martin,

      Perhaps you haven’t seen positive experiences posted, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t to be found. Millions of people have used MMS, with positive results since this article was first published, in 2007. However, a new way of looking at “disease” is needed. You say that you’re trying to get rid of genital herpes, which is a viral condition. It is also evidence of an environmental condition. The virus exists because the environment in your genital area is conducive for it; an imbalance of some kind exists. Medical practice today would attempt to kill the virus. However, their medications put the environment further out of balance. It may succeed in removing evidence of the herpes, but succeed in making the environment conducive to microorganisms that can exist with even less oxygen, for example. This is actually a good thing for you and me, because if microorganisms that can survive in oxygen deficient environments inside your body didn’t exist, we’d die off right away.

      When you understand this, you’re free to use whatever means that are convenient to you to restore balance to the environment, not worrying about one virus, and know that once you do, your body will take care of itself.

    2. susang

      ‘’I’m not against MMS at all but why is it so difficult to find the floods of positive testimonials out there that there should be if it is curing people just a couple of forums with just a few posts dating back some years ago now”

      I think you know the anwer to that.

      Even on Jim Humble’s own Forum there is scarce evidence that anyone is being cured with MMS. And the few claims that there are saying they were helped are nothing more than weak testamonials all anecdotal. MMS has been around for decades now. If it were true that people were being cured of varying diseases people would be posting objective proof, like before and after lab results. By now certainly enough people would have told their own doctors about this cure. It would be pretty hard to ignore. And please don’t tell me doctors want their patients to stay sick so they can profit off them. That’s just twisted. That kind of cynicism can only be found amongst snake oil sale men and charatans.

      Also you should know that just because you haven’t had an outbreak since using MMS, it doesn’t mean you are cured. Some people only have one outbreak when first infected, then never again. This doesn’t mean the virus is gone. It simply means the virus is dormant.

      1. After 7 years of living with debliitating chronic Lyme disease and using several protocols, including antibiotics, I am finally cured in full of Lyme disease thanks to MMS! I own and moderate a large Lyme group, I coach other Lymies using MMS and some members are cured of Lyme and others are in their own respective levels of improvements thanks to MMS!! To this very day, I still use a “maintenance dose” daily to keep my body clear of pathogens and poisons and I brush my teeth daily with MMS, never use toothpaste anymore, no dental issues for the past 7 years of brushing with MMS.. And I will use MMS until I am no longer on this earth! My greatest respect to Jim Humble who founded MMS, his team and to AA (philosopher) for getting the word out about MMS early on!

        When I first read about MMS, that it produced Chlorine Dioxide, read all I could about it, I came way realizing this was the one thing that really could cure chronic Lyme Disease, most other things can’t… I started using it and never stopped… And because I pursued this course, many on my group are also benefiting from this unique health tonic. ~ JimJax

  10. monika podhorska

    I am looking for a help for my uncle. he had been diagnosed with cancer (colon) and metastases 2 months ago. His age is 56. But there are few test have been made and they found present of Echinococcus granulossus parasite in his body with cysts on his liver. The doctors recommend him the chemotherapy but he decided to try mms solution. He did start to take a CDS2 every hour 5ml 7x and combination with mms1 3 drops every hour. He was doing ok for a few days but today he got huge inflated stiff belly and we dnt know what to do with him. He feel pain and its very uncomfortable. The doctors doesnt wanna help him because of his diagnose so I need a help. Could you recommend me what to do? why the belly got so huge and how to help him. Thank you very much.

    1. Joe Riley B.

      Hello Monika,

      Although I’m am an advocate of MMS and I still have some in my refrigerator,
      I haven’t used any in several years.

      This reply is about other choices you may want look into.

      Dr Mark Sircus has a practice in Brazil who has written MANY
      books on natural allopathic medicine. He had one foot in the grave
      earlier this year, pushing himself to 14-hour days, seven days a week.

      He has many protocols and therapies that are inexpensive.

      Read this article and you’ll see what I mean.

      Dosages for Natural Allopathic Medicine

      http://drsircus.com/medicine/dosages-natural-allopathic-medicine

      Keep Smiling,

      Joe Riley B.

  11. Julian

    Hello Jim!

    Do you have any scientific paper that demonstrates the positive effect of MMS? I have tried to find out on the Internet but cant find anything. Maybe some papers have been written after the 100,000 people experience or on the clinical trial in Malawi prison. Thanks for sharing or indicating the link on the internet. Cheers! Have a good day! =)

      1. None of these links you have provided are to clinical trials of MMS. These are studies done on chlorine dioxide used as antiseptics, used topically on the skin and other surfaces. The others were testing the use of chlorine dioxide for use in water treatment and on surfaces as an disinfectant. They tested it’s effectiveness in killing polio virus on surfaces. The other link is to a study done on rats. They gave the rats chlorine dioxide gas to inhale, and studied the toxic effects on the rats.

        The important thing to know is that NONE of these links were to a study where MMS /chlorine dioxide was given to humans INTERNALLY at the dose you and Jim Humble are telling people to drink it at.

        You won’t find any peer reviewed studies that test the efficacy of giving chlorine dioxide/MMS internally to humans because it is considered a poison and should not be ingested .

      2. Susang:
        The ORIGINAL question for this was, “Do you have any scientific paper that demonstrates the positive effect of MMS?” … NOT for Clinical trials of MMS.

        You have to be pretty ignorant to think that the FDA, or doctors would fund a study on taking Chlorine Dioxide/MMS …. they aren’t interested. Get real !

        These studies I posted show that Chlorine Dioxide (activated MMS) is SAFE for humans to take for recovery from a severe illness…. also that it destroys biofilm.

        To call Chlorine Dioxide (CD) a poison shows your complete ignorance of the subject.

        We both know you are a Pharma troll, and even IF a doctor OR the FDA gave you undisputed evidence for CD, …it wouldn’t matter…. cause your main purpose for being on here is spread negativity about CD….

        Go elsewhere !!!

      3. susang

        @macaddict08
        I think it was clear he was asking about MMS and it’s use in treating humans by this remark he made: “Maybe some papers have been written after the 100,000 people experience or on the clinical trial in Malawi prison.”

        The fact is, and you know it, there aren’t any studies or peer reviewed papers that have been done on the use of MMS given INTERNALLY to treat disease in humans. Every time one of you people who push the use of chlorine dioxide quote or link to an article or scientific paper on chlorine dioxide, the amount people are subjected to, like for water purification, are NO WHERE NEAR the ppm that is used for water treatment.

        You make the ridiculous claim that the reason there aren’t any published studies is because the powers that be, FDA etc. won’t allow it. Here are just a few reasons why this is preposterous. Firstly, MMS has been around for quite a while. It would not have been that difficult to gather some patients and do even a small preliminary study.If it were so effective in curing all of the things that the people who sell it claim, the pharms would be all over it! Anything can be tweaked, altered slightly, synthesized and made into different types of delivery systems. All of this can be patented and money can be made off of it.
        No one has ever even come close to doing anything like this with MMS.

        Secondly, if MMS were REALLY doing things like curing cancer, AIDS, Malaria, internal infections etc. by now it should be all over the Internet, on the news, and in countries where health care is free their governments would be rejoicing over the money saved on health care!

        Not only has none of this happened, but if one goes to Jim Humble’s Church forum where MMN users can ask questions and describe their success or LACK of success with MMS. I’m not seeing the flood of success stories one would expect if it really worked. As far as the serious conditions like cancer I’m not seeing anything but failure.

        For the record on literally every industrial chemical web site chlorine dioxide is listed as a poison. I am not a pharma troll. I am only interested in presenting the truth. Like your comment that chlorine dioxide isn’t a poison. You are making money off this scam. So your agenda is far more questionable than mine. I’m not profiting in any way. My reasons are far more personal. I had a friend who was diagnosed with cancer. I watched him fall victim to charlatans just like Humble and the guy who runs this blog. This quack pushed his snake oil along with false hope.

        There are so many scientific facts that are flat out false in this bloggers description of how MMS supposedly works. I hope people at the very fact check what this guy is telling them before they ingest something that could do them harm.

  12. Alex

    Could you please explain to me how a strong oxidizing agent miraculously only oxidise pathogenic entities? The reason we need vitamin C, E, A and various other nutrients is for their anti-oxidant effects ie they neutralise oxidizing agents in our systems, and prolong cell life. To my knowledge, chemicals do not make decisions. They will react with the best oxidizing/reducung agent to hand- and it’s *relative*- that is, if there is *anything* else even vaguely reactive around, whether oxidising (basic) or reducing (acidic) by comparison, s*** will happen. That – surely- includes any biochemical, “pathogenic” or not? This is a serious question- I’d really like to know what your response is.
    Thanks

    1. There’s no “miracle” about it. Every particle, mineral, or compound, no matter how simple or complex, has a natural charge state, or polarity. It’s a “plus” (+) or a “minus” (-). By your question, it’s obvious that you already know this. The polarity factor doesn’t stop. As a new compound is formed, its charge state defines its activity or reactivity with other compounds. When NaClO2 is combined with a light acid, the ClO2 species with a (-) charge results, along with NaCl. Anything that has a positive charge will be oxidized, whereas that which is likewise negatively charged, will not be.

      1. Alex

        Yes- but a couple of probs here:

        Not all particles/molecules etc have a charge- some are neutral in charge, but still reactive. Some are neutral and inert. Polarity is *definitely* not universal to all molecules- polarity is a very specific property, and does not have any relationship to overall charge in the majority of cases. The prime example is water (H2O)- it’s a neutral molecule, but is extremely polar, due to the tendency for Oxygen to “pull” electrons into it’s orbit more strongly/frequently, even though they are shared with Hydrogen. Reiterating- polarity is nothing to do with overall charge on the ion, and is definitely not a property of all chemical species.

        The kind of reaction you are talking about with MMS sounds like a free radical reaction. To save time- a quote from the Australian Research Council: “Free radicals are molecules with unpaired electrons. In their quest to find another electron, they are very reactive and can cause damage to surrounding molecules…..free radicals are also useful because they help important reactions in our bodies take place ” (unpaired electrons, btw, can occur on molecules with a negative charge, AND with a neutral charge, just for clarity’s sake- sounds counter-intuitive, but it’s true).

        I am not saying this treatment cannot help anything, and I am particularly impressed with the short bits I have seen re: Malaria, but like many medicines I am almost *certain* it has the capacity to cause damage, and probably reasonably extensive damage- most of which would be undetectable in the immediate sense. Like other free radical damage, say from air pollution or smoking- you generally know about it years later. When you get cancer, for example :S To be treated with respect, and huge caution I would think.

  13. As an ND I am very interested in mms!

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  16. Pat Christiansen

    I’m new to this but can’t see that there’s an amount of water listed. 3 drops + 3 drops but how much water? (The video shows 3 oz. and the bottle method is about 2 oz.)
    Thanks, Pat C.

    1. Hi Pat. It is not that important how much water you use. For a 3 drop dose it is probably best to use at least 1 oz of water though or it will not taste too nice.

      1. Pat Christiansen

        Thanks!
        Pat C.

    2. Pat,

      The Rule is … for every ‘activated’ drop of Chlorine Dioxide (CD), you add 1 oz of water.
      So…. 3 drops of activated CD, you take 3 oz of water.

      1. Pat Christiansen

        I have Lymes and am almost afraid to try it.

      2. Yo have nothing to lose, and everything to gain … CD has cured Lymes before… many times. You start off low (drops) and slow … and work your way up.

        My advice would be to use the CDH method (instead of taking fresh made drops every hour)

  17. Sam

    Hello

    My boyfriend was diagnosed with ALS . He just started taking MMS . Which protocol do u think will be most helpful? We both have high hopes that he is going to get better taking MMS

  18. Carly

    Can anyone tell me why I got flu from taking the MMS protocol a week into it? I had flu once 20 years ago but generally do not get ill. It is obvious to me that mms caused me to get so sick and was made worse by it.

    1. Why do you think anyone here can answer your question, not knowing anything about you? If you want to “conclude” that MMS “caused” your sickness, then there’s nothing else to talk about. You’ve done it. You can spare yourself EVER taking MMS again.

      Have a nice day.

    2. Carly,

      There can be a number of reasons you got the “flu”….

      Keep in mind, you aren’t necessarily “sick”… more like you are going thru a ‘detoxing’ reaction from the MMS, and this is good.

      When people take MMS, one of THE most important requirements is that they drink LOTS of water so as to ‘transport’ the toxins out of your system… if they don’t, “flu like” symptoms can occur.

      Many times when people are taking MMS, they are already constipated, and this can be yet another reason that their system gets backed up, and their body goes into a detox reaction like flu, diarrhea, vomiting, etc…

      My advice would be to make SURE that your colon is “moving”, and that you are drinking 8oz of water every 1/2 hour til 6pm… and to back off the MMS if you are getting flu like symptoms, til you are feeling better, then resume.

      Over all, this is a good reaction … your healing has begun ! 🙂

      Clint

      1. Hi Carly

        I would also (strongly) suggest that you take enema’s at least once per day, sometimes adding MMS to the enema (see mms site for enema protocol). This will keep the colon much cleaner enabling toxins to be removed more quickly and help prevent you getting sick.

        Love and Light
        pete adams
        Minister of Health, Genesis II Church of Health and Healing
        The Sanctuary, Puerto Escondido, Mexico

      2. People get sick, nauseated, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain right after drinking MMS because it’s a poison! It’s the bodies way of trying to expel this poison and it’s telling you NOT to do this again.

        A true Herxheimer reaction is rare and caused by only a few types of antibiotics. The other thing is a Herxheimer effect happens over days, NOT immediately after you ingest whatever substance (MMS). When MMS is ingested in a high enough amount it will cause these symptoms , nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, and diarrhea.

      3. Susan, you don’t want to rustle a sleeping giant. You’re not speaking to novices here. It’s really arrogant to step in and begin criticizing folks you don’t know simply because YOU disagree with their point of view.

        If you truly cared about any of this, or the people involved, you’d ASK questions.

        This forum isn’t actually closed, but it has long ago ceased being a hotbed of MMS dialogue, as so much has changed, while the core information remains viable. I kept it up after people told me how it helped them. Today, even some health practitioners use MMS.

        Don’t know where you’ve been, but welcome to TODAY.

      4. susang

        @phaelosopher
        I am correcting a medical fact. I keep hearing the same explanation given to people who ingest chlorine dioxide and become ill right after doing so. When they take a high enough amount they experience symptoms like, nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, and weakness. They are told by those promoting MMS that this is a Herxheimer reaction and the body killing off pathogens and ridding itself of toxins. A real Herzheimer reaction is caused by treating an infection with 3 different specific antibiotics. Vomiting isn’t even a symptom of a Herzheimer reaction. It takes several days for the symptoms to develop. In the case of ingesting MMS when the amount gets high enough, and this can vary from person to person, the person becomes immediately sick, vomiting etc. This is the bodies typical reaction to ingesting a poison. It’s a reaction that has probably prevented many from becoming completely poisoned.

        This is a medical fact. Telling people who get sick from drinking MMS that that is a good thing is medically ignorant. Period. I’m sure you don’t want any descent on this forum. After all you are selling this stuff.

        I find it quite arrogant of YOU to push such a medically false explanation for why people feel sick from drinking MMS. It’s almost as medically ignorant as your claim that chlorine dioxide differentiates between which cells it oxidizes both good and bad!

    3. grant

      Carly, I’ll begin this by assuming that you are an individual not having axes to grind with MMS.

      Here are some questions that you need to answer honestly and CORRECTLY. Explain EXACTLY your mix method, drop counts, acid used, water used, activation time. Is there any possibility that you are making mistakes regarding the mixing? Also, provide me HONEST info regarding any “make it taste better” materials added to the mms. Tell me EXACTLY how many doses per day, and also tell me about other drugs such as drug store shelf cold medicines that you took at the same time.

      Did you recently receive a vaccine of any kind? Did you get a flu shot? If so, was it before, during, or after you began the mms? Is there any chance that you have picked up a case of botulism?

      Do you have Carbon Monoxide detectors in your home? Has there been any personal exposure to Carbon Monoxide from sources such as cars, dirt bikes, lawn mowers, etc? This is important, because Carbon Monoxide exposure caused severe Flu symptoms that last until well after the exposure occurs.

      Did you batch your mms using Ozone-treated distilled water? Are you drinking Ozone-treated water or Ozone-treated flavored water or mixed liquids that have Ozone-treated water in them?

      It is highly unlikely that you have gotten sick from taking in date, properly stored (away from sunlight), properly batched (no ozone-treated water) MMS.

      1. Jovine

        Friends, True Testimonials, begin your fantastic journey here:

        Diabetes, Malaria, Bronchitis, Cancer, HIV_AIDS, Candida – MMS Testimonials,
        8 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9GbDW5fw3A

        Lung Cancer, 4 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu-2X8MrYpU

        And after you search, read, and figure it out, this below link of 3 min is the easiest way to make the CDS / CD gas from MMS:

        Making CDS from MMS the simple way, 3 min.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5UHdyeNCbI

        Make Sure To Open and Watch:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcTMge7MOH8

        And understand, “CDS / CD gas being put into water to drink, made from MMS”, is newer than this last video above., Open and watch all links above in their listed order, to begin your instant and fantastic journey.

  19. Danny

    Been following you for over a year and I must say Thankyou for your in depth of knowledge.

    Question, I am going to start a 30 day juice fast and I wanted to add a mms protocol whilst on the fast. Would you be so kind to advise me on the right protocol using 1/1 method. I am just wanting to rid the body of possible lingering or dormant viruses and pathogens.

    I also understand the strong effects of mms in high dosage but I am totally unaware of strength while fasting. I am sure it will be more intense, hence why I am asking for your help.

    Regards,
    Danny

    1. Hi Danny,

      I am probably not the one to ask this question. I appreciate your desire to do what is right and best for your body, but anything that I would offer to you as to what is “best,” although given with the best of intentions, would nonetheless be only a guess.

      Your body KNOWS what it needs and does not need, and has a remarkable, though mostly unknown (or disbelieved) ability to produce its own medicinal supplement in the form of your urine. I have only learned this in December 2012, although written information on this subject goes back over 5,000 years. Urine therapy has been practiced in the East and West, by medical practitioners of all kinds, with remarkable results.

      Although I have produced quite a bit of information on MMS, and hold it in high regard as to its potential benefit, urine therapy contains within it a healing dimension — physical, emotional, and mental — that is unlike any I’ve come across to this day.

      You can’t overdose on your urine, as your body will give you what IT needs in the moment. It is rich in 100% bioavailable mineral nutrients, urea (one of the best known diuretics), hormones (including DHEA), aminoacids, enzymes, B-complex vitamins, and much more, ALL of which are formulated for YOU.

      I can’t speak to what effect taking MMS while fasting would have. I would ask my body if this is a good move for it. If so, I would ask it to tell me how much to take, how long, etc. This can be done through muscle testing or with the help of a pendulum. This is not to turn your question away. Instead, it is to direct you to the one that actually has the answer

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  20. TT

    will mms clean your system from any substances?

    1. You probably should be more specific. The words “any” and “substance” cover a BROAD spectrum of potential.

      A~

  21. Elalim

    Hello,
    I would like to congratulate for this research.
    There was one point that was not clear for me – in the paragraph “Halt! Surrender Your Electrons, Now!” you say that: “A healthy human cell has a natural electrical of just over 1 volt”, but as I know the membrane potential at rest for a cell is -70mV. Now I think that this refers to something else, but I still do not understand. Does the measure of 1 V refer to the redox potential of a human cell? I have never learned about it (well, I’m still a student, but I want to do researches and improve my knowledge), so could you please explain this to me?
    Thank you in advance
    Waiting for your reply
    Sincerely
    Elalim

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  23. Nati Rivera

    My sister has breast cancer that has spread to her liver, lungs and brain. I’m giving her 3 drops of mms1 and 1/2 a pill of mms2 for 10 hrs a day. I have so many questions…. Is there anything else I could be doing that I’m missing?? She seems to be doing a little better, but still has her bad days, just last week they told her it had spread to the liver. About what she should or shouldn’t be eating while she’s on mms…so many contradicting stories, so many to ask. Can you please just put it in a nutshell for me… Thank you!!! I will continue to give her the mms daily for now! — your truly

    1. Hi Nati,

      If she is able, you can ask your sister to start her day each morning in short meditation. This is not “prayer.” Ask her to sit and, for a minimum of 7 minutes, take a DEEP breath and expel through the mouth uttering the sound “OM”… sounds like “Home,” but without the “H” sound. This action will do several things that will benefit her. If she is willing to do it, I’ll tell you what they are. On the other hand, if she does do it, she’ll tell you what she noticed.

      Let’s start with this and see how she responds.

      Regards and best wishes,

      Adam…

  24. Jay

    I’m concerned that mms could make my vitiligo worse ( skin depigmentation ) before it gets better. Would you please respond to this and let me know what protocol to use?
    Thank you for you time and trouble.

  25. from TEDtalks regarding trials and peer reviewed studies:
    http://www.wimp.com/doctorsdrugs/

  26. Barbara

    Hello
    Could you please tell me if MMS helps for helicobacter pylori?
    Thank you
    Barbara

  27. Ashley

    I’m not “the other Adam”, I truly do believe in MMS. With that said, I used MMS as an enema three times in one day, with about 3 hour spacing in between. The first time I used 4 drops, the second time 6 drops, and the third time I used 4 drops, all with the same preparation of 1:1 50% citric acid activator. I used about 2 ounces of water for the enema and held it in as long as I could, which was probably about 10 minutes or less each time. I got really disoriented, flu-like symptoms, and defecated a lot of what looked like biofilm– mucousy, stringy stuff. I have ME/CFS along with lots of mental illness problems (OCD, anxiety, depression, ASD-type symptoms). I know there are a lot of heavy metal and viral problems going on. I have also been passing some blood, though it was blended in with the biofilm…it never came out as drops, just bloody mucous. I’m still feeling disoriented after two days, having a lot of brain fog/euphoria type symptoms. I’m pretty hopeful that MMS is going to be the answer to my problems, but I’m a bit scared. Can I get some reassurance? I’m going to slow down and do 1 drop BID in an enema instead.

    1. Hi Ashley
      MMS if used correctly is a valuable aid for virtually all health solutions, but it cannot & should not be relied upon on its own.
      Re. MMS use, you should be taking protocol 1000 to start with. If you choose to do enemas (which i think should nearly always be one of the first things to do for health issues), then the correct protocol for MMS is: Use 10 drops of MMS in 8 ounces of fluid. Hold it in for 5 to 10
      minutes if you can . Or do the enema any way you are accustomed to doing it but add about one drop of activated MMS per ounce of water . For all the up to date protocols & to ask questions go to http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=listcat&Itemid=67

      i strongly suggest you seek someone with good knowledge of MMS able to give you complete holistic advice, but also for you to satisfy yourself that the advice being given is good by doing your own research.

      Peace & Love
      pete

      Minister of Genesis II Church of Health & Healing
      http://genesis2church.org/

    2. Until you do get more advice, be sure to look up protocol 1000 on the forum, and start researching about parasites, which affect possibly 80% of population & are at least partly responsible for most conditions. Look up Dr. Oz interview on Oprah on youtube. Also drinks lots of water (half oz per 1ib of body weight) to ensure toxins are flushed. Find the purest water (idealy structured water) you can find. Your body is around 80% water. This is why MMS (a water purifier) works so well!

    3. grant

      Ashley. The enema idea is increasingly dangerous as the time involved increases. The reason is that the liver is bypassed, and no detoxification can occur.

  28. bob

    I posted in another section yesterday but was not sure if it would be responded to so am doing so here as well. I have had about 6 or so years of experience in taking and using mms to help myself and others and nearly all results have been very good. Some people complain of the taste but so did I when my mother had me consume castor oil and eat broccoli when I was young. If it is helpful to your health, just drink it and then consume something small like a caramel or the like afterward to change the taste in your mouth. I suggest “never” consume it with any reacting soda item like bicarb for reasons that Adam talked about.

    My experience with mms has been vast and varied, assisting with serious lung problems, diabetes, cancer, swine flu, and many other things.

    Frankly, the few people who did not respond well to the use of mms were the ones that did not follow the protocol to the letter. Many need a “mentor” to help with this as they just do not have the discipline to carry it forth in a correct manner. Of those that took it as directed, nearly all of them had wonderful results.

    Adam, you have a fine blog and podcast, each of which I have followed and appreciated. I, like others, could not find a way to talk directly with you via email so ask you to contact me. I may be able to provide substantial and actual usage information for your consideration and would like to share some thoughts. Thanks, Bob

  29. lecrisha

    please help me! im so lost! i want to get rid of this virus for good!!

  30. Can you tell me where to get a good product at a good price as soon as possible? There are too many out there now. One guy on Amazon said he got one that didn’t taste like much…as far as i know, if it’s real, it tastes awful! :))) Thank you for your good work on this! Peace!

  31. Kai Pelton

    I am in great need of your advice! I have been using MMS with the activator for a good two months. I drink 32 oz in water a day to try and rid a Fungal infection as well as Staph and other Bacterial infections which were diagnosed by cultures. This gunk stream down from my sinuses all day and all night!
    These infections leave me so ill that I can’t function! I have Lyme Disease and have been on many Antibiotics which of course lead to all this. I also have a history of Psuedomonas A. Doctors don’t know what to do for me! I DO NOT have Aids or Hepatis.
    I want to start the MMS 2 BUT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH TO TAKE? The MMS did seem to help lessen the gunk, I went from a white tongue & mounth full down to a much lessor amount which still drains all day & night. I’d say it cut it by 30%? Plez email me & I will give U my number! Thank you so much! Keep up the good work.
    Kai

    1. dear kai jim humble has mentioned a few times that unfortunately there r certain new ‘super’ funguses which r unaffected by MMS. i have battled various funguses for 10 years and the best results have come from simple baking soda. a teaspoon with a bit of honey, mixed in 8oz glass of distilled water 2-3 times a day. it doesnt even taste 2 bad and starts working after only a day or 2, full effects after a few weeks. plz research alkalizing your body with baking soda 2 find out more as i am no expert. and by all means dont stop taking the MMS. it goes fine with the baking soda, and always helps no matter what! best wishes your suffering ends immediatley

    2. grant

      Kai. It is very likely that your infection is hiding deeply in your ear canal. The “old” RECOGNIZED method of curing that issue involves the use of Drug Store-grade Peroxide as a “flush” cleaner. Laying on your side, pour a teaspoon of Peroxide into your ear. Hold it in for 5 minutes. Roll over, do the other side. A few days of this, and all such infections are gone.

      This works.

      Grant.

  32. ARETI GREGORIOU

    Dear Mr. Humble,

    I am very happy to found you through my friend in Czech Republic. My name is Areti Gregoriou and I live in Cyprus. I am diagnosed with skin cancer – bcc epithelioma. My dermatologist already applied therapy with laser, but the results in not very good. The epithelioma is now bigger than 1cm on the end of my nose.
    He decided to do again the second laser therapy at this week, he believes that it will be more successful ( 99%). I have seen also the plastic surgeon, who said, that this operation will be complicated, because of the end of the nose.
    What is your opinion on this therapy? Can we combine laser with your MMS therapy? How can I use it and where I can buy it?

    Sorry for my English.
    I am waiting for your answer, please HELP ME!!!

    With many regards,

    Areti Gregoriou
    Tel. no. +35799804787

  33. David

    Hi, I have a question. My mother has the Crohn’s illness, It’s a inflammation of the intestine. I bought for her the MMS and she does not see that much change since a week and feel a bit worse. Is the MMS good for this kind of illness and does what do you recommend? I know MMS does not touch good cells and I think her reaction is the MMS acting on the infected part of her intestine.

    Did you had any other people in the same case?

    Thank’s a lot
    David

    1. Hi David,

      Instead of the idea called “Crohn’s disease,” please consider that your mother has an overgrowth of a certain type of microflora in her stomach. That microflora is there because the environment is most conducive to their growth. It’s conducive because imbalance is its predominant state. One of the chief elements necessary to change that state is oxygen. Presently, the microflora are mostly anaerobic, meaning that they do not require oxygen in order to be there. This doesn’t make them “bad,” but points out that aerobic, or oxygen respiring microflora, which would naturally manage the anaerobic population, are lacking in sufficient number. More oxygen is needed, but that’s not all. More trace minerals are needed too.

      MMS generates chlorine dioxide, which delivers oxygen to the system, and includes SOME trace minerals. It does not include the full spectrum of trace minerals that the body needs in order to restore optimal balance. It may improve the situation, but it may also be an irritant if BALANCE is not the goal, and MMS is taken indefinitely. It is not uncommon for an individual to feel worse for a time after taking MMS (or any remedy as it begins to resolve a chronic condition) before they start to feel better, as toxins are discharged from the system. But I want to emphasize that BALANCE is more important than MMS. MMS is useful only to the extent that it helps restore BALANCE.

      She should also consider taking RAW, UNPASTEURIZED milk. It will add (a) aerobic microorganisms, (b) digestive enzymes, and (c) real vitamin D to her intestinal environment. Colostrum, which is harvested at the time of birth, will add all of the above, PLUS it will reset the instruction-set of the immune system.

      Himalayan salt can be used — when converted into liquid form in what is called a “sole” (pronounced “so-lay”), to restore the entire spectrum of trace minerals that a human body needs. Joyful thinking, laughter, and other “lighter” emotions, are also very powerful “boosters” of health and vitality. Such actions demonstrate the power of consciousness, which is the true disease maker (or allower) or healer in our lives.

      This is probably more than you bargained for, but that’s why we’re here.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

      1. Lhyra

        My brother’s CHRON’s disease was caused by MILK and dairy products. David, I do not recommend DAIRY. In fact, according Dr. Sebi, a world renowned herbalist who is known for CURING AIDS, dairy causes MUCOUS which causes all disease. I do believe that mucous plays a big part and he may even be correct that it’s the whole problem; either way, CUT ALL DAIRY and MEAT, perhaps try the MMS Protocol AND get Dr. Sebi’s program if you can afford it [it’s very expensive BUT dam good… I take his products, he has an office in Los Angeles where I live].

        But the key will be to cut all dairy and meat. They are ACIDIC. One of the most important factors for health is ALKALINITY in the body.

        **I hope this helps!! Goodluck! Love and Light!

      2. Lhyra

        I forgot to post the link to Dr. Sebi’s lecture… I recommend watching it right away!! I think the combination of Jim Humble’s information and Dr. Sebi’s information should do it!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpMLF5iKM5Q

      3. I’d like to add my own 2c here …

        Speaking as someone who’s recovered from severe ulcerative colitis years ago…. if I had to pick one thing that were of UTmost importance, it would be …. Caclium Bentonite Clay (thanks Adam)
        Drink 1 rounded teaspoon with room temperature water, 2x’s a day, on am Empty stomach.

        The clay is EXTREMELY alkaline, and has a Ph of 9.7 .. you need this in your system when you have an inflamed bowel. Plus, the clay will come in contact with any parasites, and crud on the intestinal wall, and ‘escort’ it out of your system.
        The clay might be a something you do initially before starting an MMS program… it will prepare the bowel. Clay would be a must for me !

        Clint

    2. Cat

      try the ultimate zapper for crohns and other things; it is sold by a man named Ken Presner in Canada who overcame Crohns himself and MS. theultimatezapper.com is the website. good luck!

  34. Alicia

    My current research has led me to Zeolite and MMS. I am wondering if you can combine the two, or if one is better than the other. Does anyone have any knowledge of this. Thank you.

    1. Hi Alicia — there would be no conflict in using both zeolite and MMS. Please note that the ultimate goal is to restore balance to your body’s inner world. You can use muscle testing to see if, and of so, how much of each would be good for you.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  35. Lori Rogue

    Adam,
    I appreciate the effort you put into this article. It prompted me to look further into other articles you have written.

    So consistent and constant. I hope that the universe is leading many seekers of open thought your way. Such a beautiful and gentle introduction to many things long lost.

    I will cite you when I can.

    Lori

  36. Mark Alvarez

    Hello,
    I’m typing from Salem, Oregon. I am currently waiting for my MMS package in the mail and it will be here soon, I am considering to take this alternative as more than a grain of salt. I have devoped a host of neurological degeneraive signs since late 2009 following a couple of accidents ocurring back to back space two months apart. I was only 25 years old when it all happend and I have never been the same me ever since. Many of physicians have denied my progressive condition to be associated in any way to these involvements but its not fair to me because the connection is very evident based on MRI and MRA dicovered findings. One physician ordered me a Lymes disease panel test and I proved negative for that. I’m sure my condition is a result of blood flow insufficiency to my brain because the radiologist report states “dissected vertibral artery…with this patients history it may be the result from either accident…
    MY question is can I mix MMS per instructions with black lave sea salt or charcoal supplements?
    I Thank you!

  37. I am just overwhelmed by the use of chemicals in food. Can chemistry be applied so technically in eating;)

  38. seo

    Hello would you mind letting me know which hosting company you’re utilizing? I’ve loaded your blog in 3 different web browsers and I must say this blog loads a lot quicker then most. Can you suggest a good web hosting provider at a reasonable price? Cheers, I appreciate it!

  39. Hi there everybody
    I’m back in South Africa and my internet access is not the best. Hence I don’t participate a lot on blogs ect.
    Let me share with you my latest experience regarding MMS. As many of you know, on the end of 2009 I started taking MMS and after 2 days of use, my asthma which I had for years, was gone.
    Last October I moved into the hotel I worked in whist it was closed. The only room of 65 rooms that was heated was my room. On 10th & 11th December 2011 we had a concert. I was sitting that evening at the reception to keep an eye on the people running around were they not supposed to be other than in the function- room. That evening I started coughing. I had just drunk some coffee and did not take MMS for that reason the same evening. Next day it was to late. I had a cold. Not sure if I picked up a virus from one of the guest or if it was just from sitting in a cold place for to long. However, when I tried MMS the next day, it did not help. Monday I had to see the doctor to get an injecting into my arm, which was still hurting from a fall I had in February. The doctor also gave me antibiotics for my cold. But it got worse. I realized that I was storing my MMS to warm and hence it did not help me. I throw it into the sink. Knowing that I was going to SA in January I did not bother order new MMS for Ireland, but let it be send to South Africa instead. Meantime I use the asthma pumps I got from the doctor which helped to relieve the stress when I got a cough attack, but did not heal me.
    3 days ago I finally received my new MMS from Germany and start taking it the same day 8:8 ratio in the evening. The same the next day and ones in the morning.
    This was all it took, and my asthma is gone AGAIN in 2 days.
    Halleluja!

  40. Dear Mr. Abraham, is it necessary to utilize a ductless hood to absorb the chlorine dioxide gas produced while waiting the 3 minutes? (Children in the home.)
    Thx

    1. Necessary? I wouldn’t say it was “necessary,” but it all depends. How much are you mixing, and how close are the children. The amount of MMS that you might be mixing is very low, but children shouldn’t be around. Your own sense of the situation will tell you if other cautionary steps should be taken.

      1. Dear Mr. Abraham,
        Thanks so much for your advice. I realized, after I wrote to you that I should NOT be waiting 3 min. with the 1:1 ratio . . . after re-reading, I saw that you said 20 sec. was usually sufficient. By waiting too long, it was de-gassing a lot.
        I very quickly got up to 9 drops, but very suddenly, I started suffering severe stomach pain. I stopped the MMS (has been @2 wks.) & stomach finally back to normal.
        Do people find that it helps to take it with food? Any ideas?
        THanks for all the good work you do,
        Karen S.

  41. Mpho

    MMS works!!! I see some websites trying to say MMS is a scam…hhmmm. I think those people are paid to say that. My friend had sores that would not seize to disappear on his face…we tried every available “pharmaceutical” ointments and medications to no effect. We then came across MMS…in less than 3 hours….immediate change..the next day..GONE!!! And this is just 1 example…we’ve witnessed lots of diseases cured by MMS… MMS WORKS!!!

  42. s

    I dearly need some assistance. I am trying to rid of candida which I think was responsible for my childhood seizures. My natural doc recommended asea along with a huge regimen according to my hair analysis. What is the difference between asea and mms? I haven’t even gotten the grasp of what mmsII is yet. I am wondering if I am missing out on asea or am I already using it. ASEA is outrageously expensive. Help! 🙂 I am a huge natural health supporter and am trying to treat my children as well-1 definietly with candida as the culprit of her ailments-already avoided multiple surgeries for her.

    I am also working on growth/absorption issues with my children. Should I begin mms with them for this?

  43. simona

    plesae help me i would like to buy mms from an authorised seller.-

  44. I’m intrested in MMS I ‘m just scared because I might make a mistake in buying it …from not authorized people. .and also i would like to know if i can be assist while doing the preparation…i got now scabbia that I think it could be solved with the use of MMS ..
    PLEASE HELP ME . reply to me please..
    simona

    1. Joe_B_Wan

      Hi Simona,

      What country do you live in?

      Joe

    2. Mpho

      depends on the country u live in…

  45. Takis Pap

    This is an exelant analisis about MMS.Thank you .
    Could you please get in touch with me by mail regarding
    CDS new procedure?
    I will appreciate an answer of yours.

  46. Daniel

    Adam, can I get a hold of Jim Humbles phone number?

    1. I can only give you a email address Daniel.

  47. becky

    Dear people, I want to ask you about DMSO. How is the protocol for using it? First DMSO (with water) and than MMS. How much time in between those twoo? Thanks, Becky

  48. BECKY

    I HAVE AN QUESTION. HOW TO USE DMSO? DO I NEED TO TAKE IT FIRST ( with water) AND THEN MMS. HOW LONG I NEED TO WAIT BETWEEN THOSE TWO?
    THANKS, BECKY

  49. My sister’s IBS turned out to be severe Blastocystis hominis. After rounds of drugs we turned to homeopathic remedies because of the side effects. Look into something called Para 90. It’s a combination of several herbs that drew the parasites right out within days. http://www.para90.com

  50. Steve Zimmerman

    I some how ended up with MRSA and it has been a fight for 5 years. 5 months ago I had a severe outbreak, spent a week in the hospital, operation on both hands and IV antibiotics for 10 weeks. It has been 5 months now and every time they take me of the antibiotics I breakout again. This time I had another breakout before I finished them. I received my MMS in the mail the next day. Took 6 drops, waited an hour took 15 drops, waited 4 hours and then took 15 more. Got up the next morning and took 15 moore drops. That afternoon everything was scabed over, I couldn’t believe it, so I took another 15 drops. Started the protocal 1000 and holding the gas in my nose 2 times a day for a week now. Haven’t felt this good for the 5 years Iv’e had the MRSA. If you say this does not work you need to find ouy what you are doing wrong. Find a way to work with this and it will work for you.

  51. I used MMS myself recently in Malawi and was cured of suspected malaria within 2 hours. Others who clearly had malaria were cured after 2 much stronger doses – 10 drops of each, 2-3 hours apart. Brilliant stuff, but no longer available in UK.

    1. Clint

      Penny,

      Have you tried ordering it from here ? Very reliable and reputable comoany:

      http://www.betterwpd.com/cms-display/splash.html

      Clint

  52. Bee

    Wow… amazing! I’m starting to feel sick today. I switched back to the 3x/day protocol….the every-hour protocol didnt seem to produce any effects.

    Have u heard of people doing MMS enemas? I heard it helps with candida

    1. Sorry, I have no idea about that. 🙂

  53. Bee

    I just switched to the 1000+ protocol [every hour with equal amounts of MMS and DMSO] (I have candida/fungal issues, heavy metals, FMS/CFS, GI issues, adrenal/thyroid/hormonals…the list goes on). However, it doesn’t seem to be very effective. I’m up to 6 drops per hour (when you are supposed to do only 3) b/c I’m noticing no difference.

    However when I was working my way up to 15 drops twice a day (the old protocol), I seemed to start to get the die-off reactions (it started in my throat: major congestion, phlegm, mucus, raspy voice, tiredness…no diarrhea/vomiting/nausea though, but my stomach felt “odd”). I always took it on an empty stomach (upon awakening and before bed, and i waited at least 2 hours to eat after taking it or 4 hours after eating. I didn’t have to worry about what to eat or what supplements to take b/c I knew I could plan it out so that they wouldn’t interact. (Plus, it is extremely inconvenient to mix a dose every hour…I tried the “pre-mix” idea to carry around all day, but it seemed to lose it’s effectiveness).

    I don’t know if this 1000+ protocol works. Like some people have surmised, it seems like a lot of the doses would be useless due to the neutralization effects of food, supplements, etc. This link shows all the foods and substances that can make MMS ineffective: (scroll down to Incompatibilities):
    http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm

    Should I go back to the 15 drops BID and maybe work up to three or four times a day (take a dose every 3-5 hours)?

    Have most people benefited from the old or new protocol?

    I appreciate anyone’s advice, for there is not a lot of info about MMS out there.

    Thanks!

    1. Clint

      Bee,

      You could NOT sound more peculiar if you tried !!

      I can sat with certainty that you haven’t even bought an MMS kit, and/or used it.

      You should think about getting a real job… instead of trying to knock MMS off it’s path.

      get a life dude !!

      Clint

      1. Bee

        Clint, your comment made no sense and it had so many typographical errors that I pretty much rendered whatever you said useless.

        I did buy a kit, under advice of my DC.

        You need to “get a life dude”

    2. I personally make my MMS on every time I need it 6-8 drops each. I think this is the still the best way to use it for me! But than, my big trouble was gone the second day I used MMS (Asthma) and now I use it for when I feel a cold coming and ‘wolla’, the cold does not come through at all. 🙂

      1. Bee

        Wow, u are lucky it cured u so quickly! I make mine fresh each time I need to use it, too. The “pre-made” bottle seemed to lose its effectiveness throughout the day.

        How are u using MMS? Did/Are u doing the every-hour protocol or are u doing it differently (like the old way, which was 2-4 times a day)?

        How do u use it when u have a cold?

      2. 2years ago when I started using it, I used it 3 times a 6 drops each. I had Asthma for few years and used pumps. The second day I used MMS I could throw my pump away! 🙂
        When I’m feeling OK, I use it ones a week only, or when I feel the need for it, like when I feel a cold coming up.
        I also bath in it and it helped my athlete’s feet.
        Now I also use it to stay ‘regular’ whilst I’m on a diet. But only ones in the evening 8 drops each max.
        A friend of mine used it for her mouth. She had lose teeth which were supposed to be extracted, but after using MMS her teeth were saved and her infections in her mouth are gone.
        Another friend had for 15 years lose stool (almost diarrhoea) when going to the lo. After using MMS for 2 days, his stool became normal and he could finally sleep properly again too. 🙂

  54. Ben

    Dear Jim,
    It is my pleasure to contact you. I have been to a hospital complaining about the pain in my lower left abdomen which might be the colon or the gut. Could you please tell me how would i use the MMS to treat this. It feels like something is blown up inside and when i press on my stomach on the left side it feels sharp pain.
    I have been using 3 drops of MMS and acid of course ad i have been feeling a bit dizzy and also a feeling of like vomiting but there is no vomiting. Please give me some explanation of what i can do. Thank you very much. I hope i get a response very soon.
    Regards, Ben

  55. Jessy

    So I’m using MMS on my face everynight.. I don’t have a spray bottle so use 3 drops of mms and 3 drops of activator then a little bit of water in a glass then tap it on my face with a cotton, is this right? and I was also wondering, how to drink mms for it to be more effective at its full potential, I hope I get answers, I would love to hear stories about mms use on the face. Lots of love and health! 🙂

    1. Gilgamesh

      I m not sure how MMS would work, instead of botox, as MMs is for killing pathogens.
      Instead of botox, Camilla , and the Royal Family use,and Camilla endorsed the Deborah Mitchell Bee Venom Mask, It works instantly, it takes of 10-15 years of age. Bee keepers never get arthritis, so it may also be good for arthritis.
      And I m sure someone else will answer here also how to use MMS on the face and on the skin for other skin problems, maybe Adam, or Jim Humble.

      1. Jessy

        Ok ok, thank you for your early resposne, I hope someone will. 😉

      2. Jessy

        Ok ok. Thank you for your early response, I hope someone will! 😉

  56. FeFeB

    But HOW do you lose weight with it?!!!

    1. Clint

      Easy … quit being Lazy, and EXERCISE !!!!!!

    2. FeFeB, I lost 17kg during the last 12 week. Besides that I went on a 1200 per day diet, I used MMS to keep me regular, and 6 to 8 drops do the trick.
      Clint, sorry, but your comment was below the belt! When you overweight, exercise becomes a task, but ones the weight is off, THAN exercise is a necessity to get back into shape. Being overweight, does not equal lazy!

      1. Clint

        Unless you’re in a wheel chair Simunye, you have an apology … if not, you’re able to walk… yes ?

      2. Clint, no need to apologize TO ME, since you did not offend ME, but people who are overweight of whom you assume they must be lazy.
        I am a accommodation manager and as such I have to do a lot of walking, up and down the hotel. Hence I do not take your insult personally.
        I KNOW that my problem is not being lazy but eating to much, no doubt because my food in the hotel is free.
        But regardless, you have no right to call anybody lazy whom you don’t know, assuming they lazy and hence overweight. That is an insult!

      3. Clint

        So…. I guess a few Hotel workers strapped you down against your will, and forced all that wonderful free Hotel food into your stomach ?… 😉

        Most over eaters don’t eat cause they are truly hungry, the same way alcoholics don’t drink cause they are thirsty, and sex addict have sex all the time cause they are “in Love” ….. They are “medicating” themselves.

        There are no Victims, ONLY Volunteers Simunye …. and when a person is over-weight, they tend to get lazy, and take the easy way out … taking the path of least resistance. We all do it.

        So… yes, Lazy ! 🙂

    3. Oh dear Clint, did I say that? NO!
      I said I did something about it, successfully I might add.
      But that does not change the fact that you are rude and adding insults to injury.
      FeFeB just ask how MMS helps losing weight!
      She/he did not ask to be insulted, so go and get a life! ROGER! 😉

      1. Clint

        My Dearest Simunye,

        I have a life… and am glad you did something about it … but sorry, I don’t feel a need to take pity on those who ‘voluntarily’ want to take the easy way out. So, knock yourself out with the pity party my dear.

        yours,

        sincerely,

        Roger 🙂

  57. Rhedda

    please, can someone give me a link to any articles in spanish about the use of MMS?

    1. Clint

      Rhedda,

      You might try going to Google.com and using the ‘Translate’ feature (under the More menu at the end on the upper left) … then pasting in the English text, and translating it to Spanish.

      Just a thought.

      Clint

      1. and here: http://www.mmsmexico.com.mx/

        Peace & Love
        Pete
        http://a-plan-for-peace.com
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    2. Steve Zimmerman

      http://jimhumble.biz/ Choose language Spanish

  58. coste

    BONJOURS Mrs humble, avant de vous faire ma demande je tiens a remercier pour l’aide auprés de toute l’humanité que vous avez apporter et que le mms appotera dans le futur et cela grace a vous.

    d’autre part je vous laisse mon temoignage car ayant une excroissance qui est devenu enorme en 2 semaines et tres douloureuse, et j’ai donc acheter du MMS apres avoir essayer des vitamines et mineraux sans succés.

    le premier jour j’ai commencé part 2 gouttes, et le deuxieme jour 2 fois 6 gouttes et le lendemain matin je me suis reveillez sans douleur et mon excroissance avait désanflé et a presque totalement disparu depuis 1 mois.

    le MMS a aussi soigné mon fils d’une gastro et de parasite intestinaux, de la fievre et il me dit avec c’est petits copins de 8 ans que c’est leur dentifrice préféré.

    J’aime entendre mon fils me dire : papa ces miraculeux j’ai plus mal. apres lui avoir mis du MMS activé sur une coupure de 1cm au gros orteille.

    j’ai aussi soigné ma cheville enflé de 2 piqures d’abeille en moins d’une heure en prenant un bain avec 30 gouttes de mms1 mais j’ai verser la solution avec un peu d’eau sur ma cheville enflé et laissé 1 minute avant de me mettre dans le bain.

    ma cheville ma grater 5 minutes et a désanflé en 20 MINUTES.

    MRS Humble votre decouverte est formidable.

    sud france Mrs coste

    Mrs humble, j’aimerai maintenant vendre votre livre en photo copie ,le tome 2 edition 3 et je vous promet que les benefice me serviront soit a distribué ce livre imprimé ou du mms1 et aussi a faire la promotion de vos site internet sur mes anonces ebay et aussi une mutitude de blog que j’ai.

    je me permet de vous montrer mon travail sur internet, allez sur google et ecriver 2010 rrr et regarder je suis premier et vais concentrer mon travail pour le MMS.

    MRS Humble soyer bénit part toutes les générations futur qui maintenant ce souviendront a jamais du MMS et vous.

    cordialement

    mrs humble j’aimerai votre accord, merci part avance

  59. mo

    i think adam is hired by the FDA and he get paid good enough so he has to work harder in order to keep his damn job

  60. BEV

    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks Adam for this forum !! You among many help spread the word !

    Anyone who is asking how long or It did not work for me –pay special attention. It has been said before but are you listening….

    I just wanted to stress to readers who don’t know, (most already know) when your body is detoxing ( getting rid of waste,toxins and chemicals) that are making your body malfunction (out of balance) in the first place you need to go as slow as your body needs to rid itself of the toxins…everyone is different–your ultimate goal –balance.

    You need to be doing more than MMS– you need to restore your body’s imbalances through good nutrition and supplements and other restorative modalities. As was said before a good intestinal and liver cleanse is always recommended because your body needs to clean house and your gut and your liver are very important in restoring health

    Finally, you did not get toxic overnight — you will not be better in 2 weeks or a month — the more “dis order” aka symptoms you have– the more toxic you probably are….just a little more food for thought…

    from a layman

    peace

  61. Bob Prudhomme

    Dear sir:
    I wonder if you could be of assistance to me. I live on the north coast of British Columbia, Canada and am involved in placer mining for gold in a small way. About 22 years ago, I spoke with Jim Humble over the telephone about a gold/blacksand separator he had invented (or co-invented, never was quite sure on that point) and was marketing through Action Mining Services. The separator was a very unique, simple device and was called the Hydrostatic Vertical Table. Although it was low volume, it was ideally suited to my small operation due to its ability to recover ultra fine gold, simplicity of construction and complete lack of moving parts.
    I deeply regret never purchasing one of these units as, shortly after I spoke to Mr. Humble, production ceased in favor of a more complex line of tables. Many people feel that it was discontinued because it did not work well but I know, by talking to the handful of people that have actually operated the HVT, that it was capable of everything Mr. Humble claimed. It is my sincere hope that Mr. Humble either knows where I could locate a used HVT or could perhaps provide me enough direction to build one for myself.
    I would understand completely if Mr. Humble did not want to be bothered by me phoning him about the HVT. However, could you be so kind as to pass this message along to him and convey to him that I would be deeply honoured if a man of his stature were able to find the time to discuss the HVT with me. If Mr. Humble wishes to telephone me, my number is 1-250-637-1295.
    Thank you for your time and consideration.
    Best regards
    Bob Prudhomme

  62. Suzan

    From my experience taking mms i got so much worse that right now i cannot even walk. in the beginning i believed in this stuff but now i am not sure and i was told that MMS is not good for rhematoid arthritis, that’s what i have. I was so close to remission and then i started taking mms and now i am bed bound.. i am only 29 . not sure what to do? has someone had similar situation?

    1. Hi Suzan,

      While this is not to say that MMS will resolve every issue known to man, I do know that it does not induce such degenerative conditions as you are describing. Your post raises many more questions than answers. Such as, how much MMS are you taking, and how frequently? How quickly did the condition degenerate? Why did you take it in the first place, and how long had the condition persisted before you began taking MMS. What else are you doing for yourself to restore balance in your body? What kind of water do you drink, and how frequently?

      Your situation IS resolvable, and MMS can help, but it would be unwise to think that it alone will take care of this, or that it alone is the problem.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  63. Dear Adam / Jim Humble,
    I have suffered from Chronic Fatigue syndrome aka M.E. for 25 years with severe disability from extreme fatigue, anomolous heartbeat , muscle pain , twitches , blurred vision, memory impairment, all brought on by minimal exertion mental or physical.
    I would like very much to optimise the chances of MMS improving my condition by having you recommend a protocol for this disease. As I cannot see any specific reference to CFS/ME on your websites I would appreciate it if you could help me. I am currently taking one drop appx every hour.
    I look forward to your recommended protocol.
    May I also say how inspiring your work and attitude is within our very selfish world systems of existence.
    Power to you!
    Thankyou Matthew Webb
    London
    England

    1. Dear Matthew,

      I believe that you should consider using MMS for its disinfection abilities, not because it “treats” or “cures” anything, and see what happens. In the article that your comment is threaded from, an updated protocol is outlined, which you should consider. Start slowly, with minimum intake (1 drop to start). Consider other complementary steps that you can take, such as remineralization with the use of Himalayan salt (called “Sole” or (pronounced so-lay)).

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  64. King kevin

    thanks a lot!

  65. King kevin

    Hello adam, I was curious if you had any suggestions on the best method of intaking MMS for hsv1. I’m having terrible outbreaks that come on over and over again. I have just started my one drop in morning one in evening with no nausea, but seems to be so many methods I’ve read I wanted to get an opinion of a professional on the best protocol to take. thanks a lot

    1. Kevin – Take protocol 1000 & spray the affected area’s with skin spray. 10 activated drops with 1 oz of water every hour.

  66. dave

    MMS is actually an industrial form of bleach. It has NO beneficial effects (and no, your delusional story that you think it helped you once is worthless). In fact, drinking this form of bleach is so dangerous that the FDA has officially issued the following warning:

    “FDA Warns Consumers of Serious Harm from Drinking Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
    Product contains industrial strength bleach”

    http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm220747.htm

    Avoid at all costs.

    1. So Dave, who appointed you the arbiter or what is real and what is not, to walk in and tell anyone here, unannounced and with no respect that anyone here may KNOW what they’re talking about, and claim MMS is a scam? Do you really think anyone here believes that YOU know what they are experiencing better than THEY do?

      1. Clint

        It’s OK Adam, he was an abused child . . .

        … send him towards the light !!!

        😉

      2. Just another I-know-everything-better-troll… 😉

    2. holygrain

      hello dave i have taken mms many times now with no bad side effects if i consumed the same amount of comercial bleach i woulkd be dead by now never mind industrial bleach wich just means its used by the industries it does not mean how strong it is or how toxic it is its ok telling every 1 that it is does not work and is harmful but unless you have got up off your arse and tried it for the sake of proving it works or dosnt work then you have no way of knowing what your saying i have tried it and it never has made me feel sick or caused me any discomfort havent decided whether it cures all the things its said to cure but i no it dosnt kill you or burn your insides or anything like that so go and get some and do your own trials on it rather than just dismising it out right people are very sick and need to no wether mms works so for ther sake dave if not your own go and get some and put it through its paces what ever the results are they will be benificial for all those people taking it and wanting to no if it works im sure thats what ur spending ur time here for to make people aware of mms so you must be here for the people not ur own agenda so prove to the other people that it is harmful or benificial instead of getting ur information of some 1 else you should always experience your own truth not listen to some one elses so called truth

      1. Rhedda

        Dave,
        We have to make up our own minds, that no one can convince anyone of anything ultimately; your approach does not afford this basic right because it is wholly one-sided. I have read and listened to the critics as I have read and listened to the proponents (to be sure, there would be NO proponents if people were getting damaged by MMS, certainly not in the numbers they represent). It finally became necessary to start using it myself and I have seen positive results. Results that saved me the trip and expen

      2. Rhedda

        …of going to the doctor.
        Coinsidence? Yes, this event coincided with my using MMS

        peace

    3. david

      Lol you make me laugh kid. First look at the dosage kid and the actual properties of clo2 before you open your ignorant mouth. ALL YOU UNEDUCATED PEOPLE MAKE ME LAUGH! YOUR JUST AS NARROW MINDED AS THE REST OF THE WORLD JUST BECAUSE THE FDA SAYS SOMETHING YOU BELIEVE IT. LOOK UP ALL THE BAD THINGS THE FDA HAS DONE AND MEDICINES THEY SAY ARE SAFE AND TAKE THEM FOR YOURSELF JUST DONT BE MAD WHEN THEY HAVE A RECAL AND YOUR INFECTED WITH THE AIDS VIRUS.

  67. petrol

    my 5 year old daughter is in advanced stages of a brain tumor in her brain stem. She is receiving palliative care. is the MMS protocol capable of penetrating the blood brain barrier

    1. mike

      I will pray for her.

  68. holygrain

    hello every body this is my first post and before i get started my name is adam im not the adam you are all having a debate with just to be clear on that i purchased mms a while bk started to take it 3 times a day increasing the dose by a drop each time it never made me feel sick but did make my poo runny not uncontrolable just runny(sorry for the description) while i was taking it a came down with a realy bad cold or flu wich ever so i stoped taking it as i couldnt understand how the most powerful pathogen killer known to man was letting me get a cold i then lost intrest and faith in the mms and threw it away i then saw a video on youtube about it being used for water purification nothing to do with healing and they where stating how natural it was and how safe it was and that it was safer than using chlorine like i said nothing to do with making people better so with this infomation i purchased it again it cost me 50 pounds sterling soon as it came i took a 6 drop dose the next day i had a realy bad cold rather than give up motivated by the amount of money i spent i lowerd the dose took three drops and today im fine the last time i got over a cold so quickly was when i was a young healthy buck ther are 2 differences with the mms im taking now compared to the last one it has the new activator 1 drop for every 1 drop of sodiom chlorite and the distilled water is re-vitalized distilled water it cost me so mutch cos i bought a large bottle im just sharing my experience with you all and i have a question my 3 children and ther mother now have this cold is it safe to give to my children ther ages are 7 2 and 1years of age and if so what dosage ther mother thinks that its snake oil and that my money was a waste and could of been used for somthing else i beg to differ purely on the account that it didnt do anything bad to me

    1. dave

      Unfortunately all you experienced was a coincidence. I’m afraid that you got scammed for £50 for what is essentially a couple of pence worth of bleach 🙁

  69. Chris Horton

    Help! I am usually a very healthy person. I am vegetarian, I hardly ever get sick. Around November of last year my now ex girlfriend cheated on me and then gave me herpes. I took colloidal silver for about 2 months, but I had another outbreak so I switched to MMS. I took 5 drops a day for 5 weeks until it made me so sick to think about the taste that I couldn’t take it anymore. With this I used Kroger brand apple juice with no vitamin C. While on the MMS I had 2 more outbreaks. I finally gave up and now I am back on the colloidal silver, oregano oil, bitter melon and anything else I can find. I am not well mentally. I feel hopeless and I need a cure. Please please tell me what I might have done wrong and why when on the MMS I had more outbreaks, took it for 5 weeks and still am not cured.

    1. kath

      I would try iodine both orally and lugols topically. I think its working on my shingles, another herpes virus. Read some literature on it. buy it online. And then I’d see the doc for valtrex or something.

    2. Alicia

      Hi Chris, — 5 drops per day is not very much. You’re expecting a small single dose to fight its way through every pathogen, mycotoxin, and heavy metal in-among your body’s ~75 Trillion cells and still be strong enough to reach and target a tough capsid DNA virus. MMS will persist in the body for a max 2hrs, or only until it runs into something that it attacks – which initially could be just a few seconds. For someone just starting MMS, the dosage will keep depleting/fighting in the local stomach area and never get any further into the body. 5 drops once per day = 5 drops per 24 hours. — BY comparison, 3 drops per hour for 8 hours = 24 drops per 24 hours (big difference), and an additional 6 to 8 hours of treatment time vs a single dose. That radically larger figure is the ‘Protocol 1000’ dosage and even it is for a general health detox. The ‘Clara’s (6×6) Protocol’ is a heavier dosage more targeted to serious illness and cancers. 6 drops per hour for 6 hours = 36 drops per 24 hours. Try the Protocol 1000 at the minimum, Clara’s 6×6 at the maximum, or figures in between to get a daily exposure of 24 to 36 drops across six to eight consecutive hours per day. — Additionally for direct treatment of an outbreak you can dose topically right on the skin with DMSO (thinned to 50% with distilled water) — this can do it all on its own, the higher cell permeability and higher cellular voltage caused by the DMSO will cause a pretty fast healing state, — or even use a mix of MMS and DMSO applied right on the skin. Both MUST be thinned with water or you will burn your skin. You can find more on the proper usage of this mix on the web, too much to write here. Enjoy 🙂

    3. Having a bath in MMS also helps. 🙂

    4. Cavalier

      Blood electrification

  70. ross

    I just found this link
    http://www.thefishsite.com/focus/dutrion/142/dutrionsup-sup-chlorine-dioxide

    This company sells Chlorine Dioxide tablets 0.2 % to cure fish of almost all conditions with much higher doses, so this tells me that chlorine dioxide (MMS) must be perfectly safe if you give it to fish,since fish are notoriosly delicate. They claim it is better and safer than any other treatment .Hope this helps. It also confirms that chlorine Dioxide it not the same a regaular bleach chlorine like MMSDebunker keeps sugesting.

  71. Dear Mr. Abraham,

    I came across you name on several occasions during my research w/regards to Mr. Humble and MMS. I would like to share with you an email that I had sent to Mr. Humble after reading a recent post by him entitled “Kill Order” and my concern after reading it. Im sure yours is the same. I hope you may be able to help me in passing this message on to Mr. Humble. My contact information as well as other contact information is at the bottom of the email sent to Mr. Humble. I apologize for taking up to much of your time but felt strongly compelled to write to Mr. Humble and you. Please keep safe.

    Kind regards,

    George (Jiri) Borovec

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Email sent to Mr. Humble:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Good morning Mr. Humble or to whomever may be able to get this message to Mr. Humble.

    My name is George (Jiri) Samuel Borovec and I write to you today after reading your post “Kill Order” this morning. I was horrified at what I read and felt compelled to write you immediately although I had planned to do so in the coming weeks. I am deeply concerned about what you have written and feel the need to offer and extended hand of help should you choose to except it. I am currently involved with a website and group of friends that perhaps you may have run into somewhere along the way in your quest to get the message out on the benefits of MMS. The website is http://www.washyourbrain.org (WYB) We are a lighthearted group with a unique platform providing a strong message. This is aslo your website as much as it ours and everyones. I am currently helping out with WYB in an unofficial capacity as I am bogged down with my current life and its somewhat mundane tasks. I hope to be able to provide more assistance to WYB once some of my time is freed up and I can devote it to something much more worthwhile and meaningful. ie WYB.

    The members/team at WYB are all former Administrators and Mods from Project Avalon. They have come together to work on this very important project. I ask that you or whomever is reading this and can help get this message to Mr. Humble please visit the site at http://www.washyourbrain.org to better learn and understand our message and the wonderful loving people behind it. We believe our message is your message and your message is ours.

    In the “about” section of the website you will find a beautiful spirit by the name of Tania. Tania has been using MMS for quite some time after Bill Ryan suggested its benefits to her. I have spoken with Tania about my contacting you in the hopes you and her might speak. Tania is one of the creative geniuses behind WYB and looks very much forward to speaking with you.

    WYB is launching/opening its doors on May 15th 2011. WYB is not only a website but also serves as hub for sharing the message of so many fantastic people who often go to unheard, like yourself. This is done through many different mediums. Art, Healing, Music, Literature, Media, Love and many more outlets.

    One of the many avenues to get out WYB message is WYB’s radio show. In preparation for the May 15th launch we have conducted several interviews with some outstanding guests, many of which I am sure you know already. We have many more confirmed at this point and everyone is working tirelessly to give them a voice to share their message. Our guests are some of the most inspiring and well known individuals in the alternative media and science community. I will be happy to share with you some of our guests names if it better helps you to know, we are all on the same page.

    I am deeply concerned as I mentioned with what I read in the “Kill Order” post. Your message and MMS needs to be heard and spread to the masses. If I can be so candid as to say “there is strength in numbers”. The people surprising MMS and the many amazing messages of our guests and friends like you know this. So do we. Loud and clear. I ask you now Mr. Humble or to whomever can get this message to you, we would be honoured and humbled to give you a platform to share your message and your and our belief in MMS. We cannot afford to lose you or your spirit or MMS. There is strength in numbers as I said. I ask you or to whomever can get this message to please visit our/your site http://www.washyourbrain.org and please consider contacting me or Tania, Bethany, Shane or Josh if this is something that resonates with you. I also personally and I am sure I speak on behalf of the others extend my hand out to you in any way that will help keep you safe. Please let us know how we and I can help in this regard. Nothing is more important to us then your safety and well being. Stay safe Mr. Humble.

    Please find us at http://www.washyourbrain.org

    My personal contact information should you care to speak to me directly is as follows:

    George Borovec
    76 Regent St
    Ontario, Canada

    Email: happygeorge66@gmail.com
    Tel: 613 985 5474
    Skype Address: happygeorge66

    Wash Your Brain.org Contact Information:

    http://www.washyourbrain.org

    tania@washyourbrain.org
    bethany@washyourbrain.org
    shane@washyourbrain.org
    josh@washyourbrain.org

    Please feel free to contact any one of us at a time of your choosing and your convenience.

    Please keep safe Mr. Humble, I hope this email and message finds you so and in good health.

    Kind regards,

    George (Jiri) Borovec

  72. rebeka

    I am using a new protocol , every hour 3 drops. I mix it with the pineapple juice. My question is: Can I mix 24 drops for the daily dosis in a bottle with the pineapple juce? ( no vit. c added ) Is the effect asstrong as with the water?
    Thanks for feedback!!!

    1. northerntracey

      Absolutely not Rebecca. The reaction would have died down after about an hour and you’d just be dringing very clean pinneapple juice. Mix each dose as recquired.

      1. rebeka

        Hi,
        but can I mix 24 drops in a bottle with water for the daily dosis?
        Why is not possible to mix my daily dosis then with an pinneapple juiice without vitamin c?

  73. Ray

    Hello
    I am taking antibiotics at the moment which I have been told I must finish, can I take mms without effecting the antibiotics

    Thank You

    1. Ray,

      The MMS will affect anything that has a lower electrical value than the chlorine dioxide molecule, which is .95 volts. The antibiotics will likely be zapped. However, so will the bacteria that also fall within that electrical range.

  74. Ray

    Hello
    I am taking antibiotics at the moment which I have been told I must finish, can someone tell me please if I can take mms without effecting the antibiotics

    Thank You

  75. Adam:

    Thanks for taking a lead in the MMS debate. I would like to converse with you sometime about my health issues, and the effects MMS had on the digestive system. I have been doing the 1000 Protocol for 3 weeks, MMS (I assume) is really causing severe diarrhea – somedays as many as 25 trips to the bathroom. I am HIV+ and I have Mycobacterium Avium Complex – caused my a very low T-Cell count.

    Please contact me.

    Bill

  76. Eve Keeffe

    Dear Adam,

    I would appreciate it, if you would put me in touch with someone well qualified to administer MMS therapy to my father (86) for his bladder cancer. He lives in Bellefontaine, OH, but his wife could probably drive him some distance. My e-mail address is miamilannsings@yahoo.com and my phone number is 702-647-2349 (Pacific Time). Thank you for your help.

    Sincerely,
    Eve Keeffe

    PS: I have sent the same e-mail to Jim at, mms1@jimhumble.com, but it came back undelivered. Does he have a new e-mail address now?

    1. dave

      I’m afraid MMS is a scam. Sorry to hear about your Father but please be aware that these scammers will think nothing of preying on those who are desperately ill.

      MMS is actually an industrial form of bleach. It has NO beneficial effects (and no, your delusional story that you think it helped you once is worthless). In fact, drinking this form of bleach is so dangerous that the FDA has officially issued the following warning:

      “FDA Warns Consumers of Serious Harm from Drinking Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
      Product contains industrial strength bleach”

      http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm220747.htm

      1. You’ve simply identified yourself as the latest person to come here who is either (1) uninformed, or (2) has an agenda. If you have a question, you are welcome, but this is not a place for debate with people who don’t know what they’re talking about, or don’t care. The words that you use to denounce this therapeutic use of chlorine dioxide doesn’t “bleach out” the results that people are experiencing when they use it for disinfection. MMS use is growing because it is effective, your dismissive suggestion of “coincidence” notwithstanding.

      2. Now we know that you can copy and paste! But what do you have to say for yourself? Any experience? If not I suggest you get some before you talk about something that you have obviously no clue off.

      3. Gilgamesh

        Hi Dave.
        I guess you dont know, that MMS is not a dangerous industrial bleach, as you drink it everyday in your drinking water, and it is on your food, on your vegetables,and on your fruits.
        And millions of people use it for their health, and get miraculous result.
        But you should buy some, and try it for your self.

      4. Tim

        How common it is for human beings to state an opinion, declaring it fact, but without any experience either way. How many people have died taking MMS? How many people have died taking FDA approved prescription drugs? Debate over.

      5. Pete

        I have to say that you are quite wrong. I did the detox for 3 weeks, had the Herxheimer reaction, and am now on the maintence dose.

        I was travelling around some asian countries and had stomach bugs, dizziness and colds. Coming back home, I did the 6 drops as Jim Humble suggested, my sore throat cleared, my head not foggy and my whole body felt great!

        Yes those who don’t follow exactly will get a bad reaction, but if you do, it works. It doesn’t cure anything, because that’s up to your immune system. It just kills the pathogens in your blood and body for a while so that your immune can respond and fight.

      6. Not to mention that MMS works, wheather you believe it or not, I find you have a dam cheek to call people delusional who can testify to the effectiveness of MMS. We have our own prove that it works, but what prove do you have? Go and write about something that you have actually knowledge of…

  77. Ross Adams

    Regarding MMS2 I found this link all about Sodium and Calcium Hperchlorite. http://www.chem.unep.ch/irptc/sids/oecdsids/7778543.pdf it is quite technical but for those who like this stuff it details the reseach into this chemical. I have tried MMS2 (Calcium Hyperchlorite) it has not killed me or injured me in the quantities /dosages sugested

    1. I also use MMS2 without any problems. It looks like MMS2 may become in future my main product, since my supplier in Germany seems to be not allowed to sell it anymore. So I’m glad I know how to make MMS2 myself.
      I just come back from a visit in South Africa and my friend there reports that she uses mainly MMS2 and only for her teeth does she use MMS1. She brushes her teeth with MMS1. 🙂

      1. I just received the news from my supplier that they are just not allowed to sell it in Germany anymore. So it is still available for us! 🙂

  78. Ross Adams

    I have had some very good results from MMS ,I took it for 18 month with no bad effect, infact I had no days off work sicj in the 18 months ,but mmsdebunked has some very valid points and we all need to listen to this guy as much as we listen to the MMS movement. He has a point that for all the millions of bottles of MMS sold we only here of a few handfull of people post there sucess stories on youtube. It is worth remembering that mmsdebunked has some very valid poits to be addressed

  79. guy999

    is there any testimony other than Jim Humble’s words of curing HIV using MMS2. Please let me know

    1. Clint

      That’s a good question Guy !!

      I’ve always wanted to hear from the person’s themselves about HIV, Herpes and all the virals being cured of MMS 1 &2 . . . my feeling is, if we did hear a lot about it… Jim’s Treatment center might get swooped down upon like the Branch Divinian’s experienced in Waco, Texas.

      Kind of a Catch-22.

      1. Yup, there’s been 14 years and supposedly “millions” cured, but not one single person who has come forward with a test result showing they are cured of HIV, or any serious disease actually. But you can trip over the thousands of people “claiming” to be cured on the internet. Do you really think scanning a test result would all of a sudden make “them” swoop on Jim? Really? He’s in the Dominican republic you know? Isn’t there “already” a conspiracy to silence him? Aren’t there already millions of doctors on the “pharma” payroll? The reason they haven’t “got” him yet is because people haven’t made their test results public? Is that what you want us to believe?

        In the real world, if MMS worked, after 14 years there should be hundreds of people, if not thousands who post their test results on the internet. Showing they were cured of incurable diseases like morgellons disease, HIV, Herpes and anything else Jim claims it cures, what would “swooping on Jim” achieve then? Do you REALLY believe something like this could be suppressed? Doctors don’t have family members who die of cancer and other diseases MMS claims to treat?

      2. Clint

        The More you speak, the more you seem to reveal your ignorance (whatever your name is),

        Have you ever thought that one of the reasons people don’t “post their scanned test results” is that maybe they already know that there’s a movement to Silence Mr. Humble ? Do you really think that it’ll be a person’s Mission, once they’re cured, to go out now and tell the World about it ? Who are people going to make their “test results public” too ?!?!?

        Better yet, IF there was a cure for cancer, do you really feel it’s be announced on the 6:00 evening news ? Please, get real !! Posting their test results on the internet ?? In what, JPEG form ?!? lol !!

        No, in the “real world”, things like MMS and Jim Humble to make the news… so YES ! Something like this WOULD be suppressed… Ozone was…. Royal Raymond Rife was….. so, please wake up, and get a clue.

        And more importantly… WHY do you even care about all this ? What’s at stake for you ?

        Clint

      3. Everything you say directly contradicts the available evidence. You say “Do you really think that it’ll be a person’s Mission, once they’re cured, to go out now and tell the World about it ? ” Yes, that’s exactly what I think, because that’s exactly what I would do and that’s exactly what this blog does and it’s exactly what the hundreds of people giving testimonials of being cured are ALREADY doing. You are completely wrong: THEY ARE DOING IT ALREADY. This is what people DO if they were really cured of a serious, fatal or incurable illness.

        “do you really feel it’s be announced on the 6:00 evening news ” Yes, exactly. You think they wouldn’t? You think the credulous media wouldn’t gobble up “miracle cure” stories? Of course they would. There’s HEAPS of stories JUST like this everywhere on the internet, here’s just a couple:

        http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/health/health/3472846/I-beat-cancer-in-seven-days-thanks-to-internet-miracle-cure.html

        http://www.brainstormwebs.com/thevickroys/scott.htm

        http://hubpages.com/hub/How-I-Cured-Stage-4-Cancer-in-Two-Weeks-For-Less-Than-The-Cost-Of-A-Night-At-The-Movies

        http://chrisbeatcancer.com/

        http://howibeatcancer.org/

        If MMS REALLY worked, there should be dozens if not hundreds of sites JUST LIKE THIS that say people used MMS to cure their serious illness. Where’s the “big pharma” conspiracy trying to suppress these people? I’ll repeat what I’m saying: 14 years on and supposedly “millions cured” and there isn’t ONE site like this!

        “Posting their test results on the internet ?? In what, JPEG form ?!? ” Why not? If they’re willing to say they have test results, like Adam claims on this very blog, why not post it? It would have a “lab” name, people could look the lab up see if it was legitimate. Doctors could see the results. It would be a start. I admit if there was one or two it wouldn’t be convincing, but that’s the nature of evidence. You look for the preponderance of evidence, where does MOST of the evidence point? If you could get a few dozen, or hundreds of such results together, (which would be VERY EASY if MMS really worked) THEN it would start being VERY convincing. If you could get enough people doing it, what’s “big pharma” going to do? Start “disappearing” people? I’d believe it if we lived in the eastern block under communism, which I did by the way so I know what I’m talking about. You have absolutely NO idea how free we really are if you think “big pharma” could stop hundreds of people all over the world from putting their results on the internet, they can’t even stop Jim Humble. Do you really think Big Pharma “need” those test results to swoop on Jim Humble? If he’s such a “danger” why haven’t they “got” him already? Either they are trying to get him or not, get your story straight. You think some people posting actual results is what’s going to make the difference? Do Big Pharma KNOW how much danger Jim Humble poses or not?

        “WHY do you even care about all this ? What’s at stake for you ?” Because I care about the truth, that’s all.

      4. Tim

        mmsdebunked.. do you have any personal experience of taking mms? have you been able to judge the results for yourself?

  80. Suzanne

    How long does it take to get rid of any disease? If i was taking MMS 3 weeks is it long enought to proof if it is working or not for me? thank you

    1. Suzanne… the “proof” that MMS works and when you no longer have RA are two different things. MMS WILL reduce heavy metal deposits and pathogens (which may come AFTER the heavy metals), that took years to accumulate in your body. If you are taking MMS, it IS reducing these by introducing oxygen into your formally oxygen depleted body.

      Your body also needs to be able to conduct the new energy throughout. This may not happen immediately. MMS does not “cure” RA. It DOES reduce heavy metal and pathogen loads. When you have sufficiently brought these items down, meaning that your body has moved into the “sweetspot” of homeostasis, you will no longer have RA. I would not suggest trying to “rush” the process, or obsessing over how fast or slow that it is going. The more at peace you become, even in your discomfort, the faster YOU will heal YOURSELF.

      Just my opinion.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  81. Suzanne

    Hello. i have rhematoid arthritis and have been taking MMS for 3 weeks now. I started with 1 drop , now i am at 15 drops. My symptoms have not improved, in fact i feel worse, my joints are swallen more and i have more pain. How long does it usually take to reverse the disease? how often should i take it? thank you

    1. Hi Suzanne… if you feel worse, I would suggest dialing back your intake. It is apparent that you have blockages… energy and perhaps fluid… in your body, which have to be worked out. If this is so, MMS/chlorine dioxide would be inactivating pathogens, but with said blockages the symptoms and discomfort could temporarily intensify.

      Jim Humble introduced a new protocol in 2010, which he calls Protocol 1000. It involves taking fewer drops at a time each hour, over an 8-hour period. If you re-read the article above… “No Miracle, Just Wonderful Chemistry,” you will note the update and description of the protocol. Even then, I would not suggest starting out with 3-drops per hour, but instead, would begin with 1-drop an hour. If you feel discomfort, it means dial the doses back and give your body a chance to process the action that you’ve begun.

      You can learn more about the new protocols at Jim Humble’s site…

      http://jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34&Itemid=61

      I would also suggest that you consider adding a “sole” to your morning routine. It involves taking Himalayan salt, dissolving it in water until fully saturated, and then taking a teaspoon of the solution (IN A GLASS OF WATER) at the start of each day. The Himalayan salt has ALL minerals in the Periodic Table, and the human body uses ALL said minerals. By taking the sole you begin the process of energetically re-INFORMING your body with all the minerals that it needs. It will strengthen your immune system, and allow your cells to conduct electrical energy needed to carry out your healing. This does NOT conflict with MMS intake. In fact, the sodium chlorite that MMS is created from is a form of unprocessed salt, just like the Himalayan salt is. The latter salt has more minerals, all of which are needed in order to create a healthy YOU.

      I take a teaspoon of sole in a glass of water every day.

      Here’s a link with more information about the sole.

      http://www.himalayancrystalsalt.com/sole-therapy.html

      A great book on the subject is “Water & Salt: The Essence of Life,” by Dr. Barbara Hendel and Peter Ferreira; which can be purchased at the same site.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

      1. Hi Adam.

        You might just want to check those facts regarding minerals in the periodic table. In fact there are 38 periodic minerals all up, all other minerals (thousands of them) are molecular compounds which are obviously not in the periodic table.

        There are only 13 so called “essential” minerals required by the human body which are all elemental, and another 5-10 “trace” minerals, the exact number is not agreed on, but it’s definitely not “all of them”.

        Amongst the 38 periodic elements is *gasp* mercury also uranium, antimony and lead and a few other lesser known but also nasty elements that are quite toxic and NOT required by the human body what so ever.

        Just thought I’d clear that up.

      2. That’s your opinion, which you’re entitled to. You should write a book about it. I didn’t write the book on what I wrote, but I read a very well presented on that was written by a medical doctor and bio-physicist, titled, Water & Salt. There are more than 38 elements in the periodic table, and the human body is, in fact, made up of the material of the earth. What is “toxic” may in fact, have to do with amount, combination, and proportions, rather than simple presence. Unless you can “clear up” what they presented, which is available for anyone who cares, to review, accept or refute, I’ll stick with what I said. Their work cites research that has examined the effects of sole supplementation, which among other things, greatly enhances electrical/energetic conductivity in the body. Your “position” leaves a reader simply in doubt, with no useful understanding to work from.

      3. There is a difference between “opinion” and “fact”, I didn’t state any opinions, just facts. I also wasn’t giving a “position” or trying to claim what the book says was incorrect.

        You said “There are more than 38 elements in the periodic table” but that’s not what you said the 1st time, you said “ALL the MINERALS in the periodic table”.

        Yes there are more then 38 “elements” and there are more then 38 “minerals”, but there are only 38 which are both minerals AND elements (in the periodic table). Some of those 38 are not required by the body and some are also toxic, like mercury, this is not an opinion, you can actually go and count them yourself if you want to confirm this.

        Unless you are willing to take back what you said about vaccines containing thimerosal, you have to admit mercury is an element which is toxic and not required by the human body.

        Maybe the mistake is just your interpretation of what is claimed in the book, not what’s actually in the book it self, maybe because you are not precisely familiar with the difference between an element and a mineral. If the book claims there are more then 38 “minerals” like you said in your reply then this is correct, but in your 1st post you were incorrect calling it “all the minerals in the periodic table”, that’s wrong, again that’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. I can paste a list of all 38 elemental minerals if you like. That’s all I was trying to clear up.

      4. This is where your arrogance shines.

        Mercury’s toxicity in thimerosal has nothing to do with whether it is toxic in the amounts that may be used by the body NATURALLY. The body’s need for, and ability to use mercury in a therapeutic and even beneficial way, may very well depend on the presence of one or more of the other 93 elements that are also contained in Himalayan salt, but are missing in Thimerosal. This is much the same with many supplements that contain isolates of vitamins and minerals, but not the full complex that is found in nature, thereby limiting bio-availability and the actual nutritive value.

        The presence of these elements were demonstrated, not by conventional chemical analysis, but by frequency spectroscopy, which confirmed the presence, via waveform frequencies, of each constituent element.

        Children have been shown to demonstrate a dramatic decline in health after vaccination with chemicals that have Thimerosal as an active agent, whereas people — children and adults — have shown dramatic health improvements when they re-mineralized the body using sole.

        You are not trying to “clear up” anything. If you were clarifying, you’d ask questions, like any intelligent person would. If I write something, I have a pretty good basis for my opinion. Results are far more important indicators of the efficacy of a hypothesis. The results of the way of thinking that you represent, is our current health mess. Arrogance… thinking that current predominant knowledge represents ALL “right” knowledge, is part of the problem.

        You are trying to insinuate that you hold some superior point of view, and that mine must be in error. While I’m not attached to being “right,” or having something to learn, nothing you’ve presented has any relevance to what I’ve just said, nor do you offer any alternatives for consideration that might of equal or greater value.

  82. Ez

    Hello I was just curious as to how you would know if the herpes virus was completely gone from your body if I was to use MMS and if there are links to testimonials that have solid evidence (such as a blood test) as to a virus being eliminated from their body.

    Thank you!

    1. Gilgamesh

      Ez.
      My opinion, is that you just see your doctor, or health practitioner and get a test.

      1. Awesome, we have one taker already accusing me of being a sock puppet and 2 thumbs down. 🙂

        I never rejected the offer to see the tests, i said i was keen to see them and gave my email address, I did however state I wasn’t sure how much I’d trust a source who blatantly links himself to jimhumble.biz . I encourage you to read the exchange on the post called a-little-good-news-amid-much-fear comments and click on the guy who offered the tests: “Tony’s” name.,

        Adam claims the user he wrote about who was cleared of HSV has tests to prove it, which WOULD be a miracle because, as you must know, current medicine does not have a cure for HSV, so it’s pretty interesting that no one has created a stir about this don’t you think? The doctor or lab doing the tests weren’t a bit curious how this person is clear of an incurable disease? I suppose they were already paid off by “big pharma” to keep quiet?

        quick sheep: give me thumbs down because I speak the truth! lol

    2. Someone has already given a thumbs down to a newcomer who genuinely seems just interested in finding out what information is available… Classy.

      Ez, if you want my advice, stay away, you watch, the next thing that will happen is the trolls of this blog will come out of the woodwork to flame anyone who dares even ask for something as basic as some “test results”. You’ll probably get accused of being a sock puppet, or a pharma agent, or my favourite one so far: a military bot. lol.. I’ll no doubt also get some replies for just telling the truth, just wait and see.

      I have been searching and asking for actual evidence like a test result for over a year now and have not seen a single one, not just here, but on youtube, curezone and many other forums that had MMS threads. One person on this blog recently offered to send me their tests, but they linked them self directly to jimhumble.biz! and even though I gave him my email address, I’m still to receive anything from them.

      Ask yourself if you were cured of HSV would you show everyone your test results? And now Jim Humble has had 14 years and he claims “millions have been cured”, so ask yourself why we can’t find one single test result?

      1. Clint

        lol !!

        … Adam, do you have nothing better to do ?… WHY do you care about MMS…. go get a life man !!

        Quit being an idiot and DO something with your life, instead of coming on here under different aliases.

        You’re Pathetic.

        Clint

      2. Clint,

        The IP addresses of Mr Fraud and UK Adam are different. Also their writing “voices” sound different to me. Still “narrow bandwidth,” but different nonetheless.

        How’s things going in Saskatchewan? The tolerable season must be under way by now.

    3. Ez,

      If it can be detected during a physical examination, it can also be confirmed to be gone, as one visitor to this site reported to me after 3 months of MMS use. She had HSV 1 & 2, for 10 and 2 years respectively. A medical examination confirmed that she is now HSV free.

    4. EZ, please ignore the thumbs down. I’m the only one so far voted to your comment so far and pressed the wrong thumb by mistake. I tried to change it, which sometimes works, but not this time. Sorry. But it did accept my thumps up now as well, which is weird, I think!
      Welcome to the blog and may somebody be able to answer your questions.
      MMSfraud was offered to be send prove via e-mail, but he rejected the offer before he even saw the prove, because ‘it could be fake’.
      Well, we cant please them all…smile
      When I started using MMS, I did not take it for something specific. I was told by several people that MMS was good and helped them with different problems, so I toke their word for it and tried it. I had nothing to lose, but I ‘lost my asthma’ and a few other problems in duo process.
      So question is, what do you have to lose?
      smile

    5. Ez, I use myself as an example now.
      I was on several asthma medication and asthma-pumps, prescribed to me by different doctors, duo to me moving a lot.
      When, after taking MMS for 2 days, my asthma was gone, I did not bother seeing the doctor and paying 50 euros, just to tell him my asthma was gone AFTER taking MMS.
      Do you think, that if I would have told him that I believe, I was healed by MMS, he would have believed me? Don’t you think he would have come up with plenty excuses and ‘maybes’ to find another reason why my asthma was gone? Possibly he would even take the credit for healing me with some of his medication before he would admit MMS could have been the cause for my wellbeing. I’m sure about that like the AMEN in the church.
      I’m also pretty sure, that most people who use MMS won’t even tell their doctors about it for the same reason why I did not tell mine. 🙂

  83. G-B

    hi there, I just came upon your blog today:) I am trying to get in touch with jim, or maybe someone who can answer a couple questions I have. Can you or someone reach out to me with the email I provided? Much appreciated!!!!

    1. G-B,

      There are many knowledgeable people here. If you’re willing, ask away! If it’s something we can’t handle, we can make arrangements to get it to Jim.

      1. G-B

        Thank you:) I would love to share the questions I have, and will definitely share my knowledge, but would much prefer speaking privately via email first to ask a couple questions, is that possible??

  84. Kerri

    My sister began taking MMS and at 5 drops a black spot on her back appeared which looks like melanoma. She is now at 13 drops and is having severe severe stomach cramps. She says it feels like labor. She backed down to 10 drops but still has the cramps. Please help?? She feels like she should go to the hospital.
    Thanks
    Kerri

    1. Hi Kerri
      Sorry to hear about your sisters problem. I do not know what melanoma is and if it can be from MMS or if it just happened to appear at the same time as she started taking MMS. Hence she thinks it could be from the MMS.
      Jim is for some time telling us all that it is better to use MMS according to the new protocol, and not take a big dose of MMS at ones, but rather smaller doses a few times a day.
      http://jimhumble.biz/
      I hope she will feel soon better, one way or the other, because if it is something else, she may need to see a doctor. 🙂

      1. Clint

        Simunye:

        Don’t be fooled… this post is Bullshit !!! it smells badly of the ‘other Adam’ and his constant negative agenda against MMS.

        Just reading it, it gives little details and goes directly to fear.

        Nice try dood !!

    2. Clint, I alsways give people the benefit of a doubt first. But if you right, than it was not a good attempt to b…….us, because the sister is very obviously not using MMS according to instruction in the first place.
      What I did noticed is that those people, who have problems don’t write here themselves, but have others speaking on their behalf! Makes me wonder too… 😉

    3. Rhedda

      Kerri,

      So at 5 drops (presumably taken as an incremental dosage aroung day 4), the black spot appeared. Not MMS induced melanoma or MMS induced anything for sure. that would be a chemistry impossibility. Up to 13 drops and having “severe severe stomach cramps”; Hmmm. what about when she got to 12 drops, where they then just “severe”? How about at 11 or 10?? She should have started to back off drop by drop as soon as slight cramping started, or am I to understand that suddenly at 13 drps this cramping came on so strong ?

      There are no toxins produced by chlorine dioxide and these problems are probably due to something else.

      Best “remedy” for MMS? H2O.

      There are simply no numbers of cases in terms of those who have tried MMS and experienced what your sister has to substantiate a fault of MMS for the issues you describe.

      Keep this forum posted please on her condition and also if she does indeed go to the hospital. I for one would like to trace all reports like this right to the doctors treating the people for a supposed MMS reaction to discover ezactly what is up.

      Good Luck

      1. Clint

        Kerri:

        Please save your breathe… this was a Fake post, buy a guy who originally called himself Adam …. and is trying to turn people OFF to MMS. He has his own agenda.

        He keeps posting stuff on here under different names, claiming MMS makes him or his Great Aunt sick…. he’s an idiot.

        Anyway… just thought you should know, and thanks for trying to help,

        Clint

  85. Anthony

    Hi

    I have been doing lot of R & D on MMS and decided to use it for HIV. I’m planing to buy MMS and Citric Acid and Jim Humble’s book online. If you have any information on how to cure HIV using MMS please share with me

    1. I did not come across anybody here on this blog yet (but I’m not around since the beginning) who used it for HIV, but your best bet is to look it up on
      http://jimhumble.biz/
      …how to use it.
      And please keep us updated about your progress. Thanks 😉
      God bless you…

  86. Janey2204

    Hi
    My daughter came home with what I think are pin/thread worms. Normal mebendazole cleared hers up but hasn’t touched them for me.
    Do you think MMS would help me. I have had them for four weeks now and am beginning to feel really ill, nauseous etc. I have tried black walnut, garlic etc, but nothing seems to work. I have lost my apetite and now have no bowel movements, I am worried this infestation might turn into something else. I am just recovering after being treated for breast cancer and cannot believe I have this problem as well.
    Thank you for your suggestions.
    Janey2204

  87. Ryan Whitaker

    My wife and I have used MMS1 off and on for a couple of years. We heard about MMS2 and I got some capsules and some powder and have taken them a couple of times as well. My son in law is a PhD in Chemistry, and works for various governments coming up with antidotes to chemical warfare scenarios. I asked him about the chemical claims behind MMS1 and MMS2 — Do the ingredients actually “come out” to be what they are claimed to be? He verified that, yes, the chemistry is very sound and accurate. His only concern was what was the biology of those chemicals once they enter the body’s GI tract? How much does the chemical processes in the body change or break it down. He said the best way to tell if MMS1 or MMS2 actually reach certain organs would be to conduct blood tests to detect the presence of the original chemicals in the various parts of the body. No one is going to spend research money to do that because there is not an expensive product here to make a profit from! But I was very encouraged to hear that the original claims behind MMS1 and now MMS2 are valid. They are NOT “just” bleach.

    My own testimony from personal experience is that these have definitely helped me overcome things. Quickly!

    Ryan – Vancouver, WA

    1. Thanks, at least now the question of the AAMF’s re WHY Jim is not having it done is answered: THAN MMS WOULD HAVE TO BE SOLD MORE EXPENCIVE! Makes sense to me! 🙂

  88. kath

    I have a question about the MMS. From what I read it is not bleach and you are not drinking bleach. Does it hurt the thyroid? Any evidence of that? Because I use a water filter to remove chlorine and fluoride from tap water. I also use a shower filter so that I do not breathe the chlorine gas. and not mess up my thyroid as fluorine and chlorine are way more reactive than iodine, which is what the thyroid uses.

    I had a chemistry student drink bleach because she was told it would clear drugs out of her system before her pee test. I am now wondering if she tried something like MMS.

    Is MMS the same thing as water purification drops that are bought from the camping supply?
    Is MMS the same thing as stabilized oxygen?

    Is there any evidence that this chlorine dioxide/ oxygen goes through the blood brain barrier?
    It was my understanding that sulfur compounds were the best at removing heavy metals do you have any tests that confirm this? Hair analysis is not always best because hair dyes contain heavy metals.

    I am considering trying the MMS method for fibromyalgia syndrome. I have been positively diagnosed with Lyme, chlymadia pneumonia, & epstein barre. Instead of a years worth of antibiotics I thought about trying this method first but I am already over weight from medications and don’t want to make my thryroid any worse. Also I have trigeminal neuralgia. I really think it has been caused by one of those bugs or by a resurgence of varicella on the nerve, although the spinal tap came back clean.

    thanks

  89. I took MMS to mycotoxin detox & kill any possible lyme /staph infection I might still have due to mold exposure.

    The first week; I felt better. After that I started PEEING BLOOD… If this MMS is so safe & only hurts acidic cells; how come my kidneys are killing me & I’m wizzing blood??

    1. Clint

      PJ: (or should I say ‘Adam’!)

      Your post and explanation is lame, and very brief… you give NO details as to how you took or even prepared the MMS.

      Most people would give more details than you if they were sincere about asking a question.

      Clint

  90. moxaman

    If I may, MMS is indeed a “form” of bleach BUT it isn’t the same as chlorine bleach! H202 is also a “bleach”, heck even the sun will “bleach” over time due to oxidation from solar radiation. So what! Chlorine dioxide does not cause the formation of THM’s like chlorine does. It’s really that simple. So yes, skeptics can call MMS “bleach” and they are partially correct in that it is an oxidizer, but they fail to mention that no toxic byproducts are formed thus making it a safer alternative to chlorine. Many of these skeptics are simply playing the game of semantics on people who don’t really understand how or why MMS works. It is simply a relatively non toxic oxidizer that kills anerobic pathogens and neutralizes toxins and metals having a positive ionic charge with a PH below 7 (or have an oxidation potential of less than .95 volts). Healthy cells and beneficial aerobic bacteria have a negative charge with a PH around 7 or above and will not be oxidized by chlorine dioxide, thus making it safer than other oxidizing agents such as H2O2 or ozone which has the potential of oxidizing healthy tissue. Bottom line… chlorine dioxide IS a type of bleach, just not as toxic as chlorine, hydrogen peroxide, or ozone (in small concentrations). Corrections welcome!

  91. I just read something about ‘viral marketing’, whereby certain companies ect BUY a .DOCTOR or any other ‘EXPERT’. to go on websides like facebook etc, to ‘kill a product’ by spreading false ‘expert advise’. Sounds familiar? 😉

  92. Adam

    Thanks a million for opening our minds!!

    I just have some small questions regarding MMS2.
    * There are currently many web sites available where I can buy MMS2. However, I want to make sure it’s the correct solution and not a commercial fabricated product with bad fabrications. I found the following website with MMS2 capsules. http://www.mineral-solutions.net/mms2 I really would like to know if you are known to this product/site and if its fine for me to purchase from them this MMS2?
    * I bought a hardcopy MMS book yesterday, but already would like to know if the above product with 60 capsules would be enough to thread a patient with a severe decease?

    Thanks a million for your respons and keep up the great work!

    Regards,

    1. To make your own MMS2 is easy. So why don’t you try it. Jim gives the instructions for it, and I tried it and it works well. I got a little capsule-filler and the staff to fill it with, and wolla… 🙂

      1. Adam

        Hi Simunye,
        I have ordered his book, its a good idea. I will look into it.

        I also was able to get a respons form one of Jim’s collegue’s who told me this site and the MMS2 they sell is ok.

        Thanks for your reply! Best Wishes.

  93. Lynlondon

    Thank you Phaelosopher for your reply to my posting. Do you have a radio prog I can tune in to as I really would like to partake more of your wisdom … You know how one can hear the same thing over and over again and then one day it one has ears to hear it. Well that is what happened with me – I suddenly saw all the strain I was putting on my body by the years of worrying about my health and I realised my body in its wisdom could not rebalance itself with all these negative vibes. It seems that I have relaxed in this knowledge and it feels like my body has been relieved of a burdon and feels better and lighter! All my attention to and worrying about bad health was creating more of the same… Wow! its good to have seen same. I wish to create a healthy body – I have asked for same and now it is up to me to get out of the way, get happy, and allow ‘ask and it is given’ to work : )) lynlondon

  94. ullricke meyer

    Mr Abrahams
    I am trying to get hold of Jim, a friend with cancer is enroute to tijuana and wants to be treated IV with MMS, how do we get it setup and find out where the clinic is etc, could we contact Jim to let him know she is en route and to get details of where to go? I hope you can help us with this, she needs all the help she can get. I have a number but its disconnected, I hope either you or someone else can help us get hold of them.

    Thank you

    1. Maybe you want to try Jims e-mail Ullrike…
      jimvhumble@gmail.com
      Good luck for your friend…
      LG Moni

    2. Nicole

      Hi M. Meyer, as far as I know, Jim Humble is in Dominican Republic. Here is an extract of a news letter I received in December offering Free Healing at their mission.
      “The World-Wide Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing invites one and all, rich or poor, to come to the Dominican Republic to be healed free of charge of any or all of their diseases and discomforts.” I suggest you write to this address where I received very quick answer. mmsforhispaniola@gmail.com
      Hope it will help your freind…and others.

  95. Mike Van

    phaelosopher,
    I have been following this site for a long time and I was actually one of the first to post on it almost 2 years ago. Even though I haven’t been writing recently, I have been following every post that comes to my email, and let me just say that it has been interesting. I have a question for you, but first I wanted to address some things for some of the skeptics out there and why they may not feel the way WE (anyone who has been in the position, in which I am about to explain) do.
    I have been dealing with symptoms that have completely debilitated me for the last five years on and off and for the the last 2 1/2 years constant. When I read about these skeptics that continue to bash whether MMS is properly tested or not, or whether MMS really helps or not, I get very angry and at those people and I have a few questions for the skeptics to ask themselves. Have you ever felt terrible for an extended amount of time? If so, have you been to numerous doctors who tell you there is nothing wrong, that they can see? Have you tried many different treatments and spent thousands of dollars trying to get better so you can live a normal life? Have you ever been so down that the only thought that crosses your mind is to end your life so you won’t have to feel this physical pain (not depression) anymore? Well, I have. I have been to over 30 doctors in the last 2 years from New York to California, all whom have not been able to help me. I have had so many labs done that I have collected that have not shown any thing that could explain my feeling this way. I have been diagnosed with Adrenal Fatigue, Leaky Gut, CFS, Chronic Lyme ( those are from doctors who actually took some time trying to figure me out) and Deression, General Anxiety Disorder and NOTHING (those are from doctors who just wrote me off). So when the skeptics say stuff like, we are just desperate and will do anything even it it harms us, I get very upset becasue they are right, we are desperate. But that doesn’t mean we are not smart and educated in our decisions. I have researched as much as I could about certain alternative therapies and have tried numerous ones with really no help. I have kept a strict diet with no sugar, nothing but organic food and nothing to drink but spring water for the past 2 years straight. If anyone doesn’t think so or thinks there is no way someone could possibly be that disciplined, I will be happy to give you my email address and then my phone my number and we can talk on the phone. I assure you that I am a real person who is dealing with a very real issue. I am a cop in NJ and I am 31 years old. After having done my own research on my condition and having wrote down everything from what I eat every day to how I feel, very specifically, I have come to a conclusion. I have either a virus or a bacteria that has done this to me and I need to get rid of it. Once I do, my body will heal itself and come back. In the beginning of my symptoms, 2 1/2 years ago, I tried MMS and after 1 week I stopped because it had exacerbated my symptoms 100 fold. At that time, I was afraid that that was a bad sign and there is no way it could be helping me, so I stopped and tried to seek help elsewhere. Well now I have come back full circle and realy believe that I need to try it again. That brings me to my question:
    phaelosopher, since you have done so much for MMS and alternative therapies, I was wondering about your feelings on NANO silver? It seems to have the same claims that MMS does. The other part to the question is a little more complicated. I said before that it is either a virus or bacteria that is causing my symptoms. Well since I have been on IV antibiotics for Lyme for the last 5 months with no real conclusive evidence that I have Lyme, I am pretty sure that it may be a virus. Since a virus cannot make its own ATP and must hijack a another cell to survive, how then could MMS and/or NANO silver invade that cell and stop the virus from replicating?

    I am sorry this was so long but I had to get somethings off my mind to try and explain the reasoning behind some of the things we will do to get better. And for the skpetics, there is no way they could ever even fathom what it is like to feel like I do 24/7 365 with no relief. I have tried every route and again if anyone wants to see my labs or see my notes or see the receipts for the over 62,000 dollars I have spent trying to get better, I will be more then happy to accomodate them. Thanks, Mike

    1. Clint

      Hi Mike,

      Am sorry for the rough times you’re going thru … I can relate… I had Severe Ulcerative Colitis for 4 years back in ’82…. took forever to come around.

      I’m not speaking for Adam here, but was thinking MMS via IV (or even IV, Intra Muscular) might be a means to rid you of your pains… by passing your digestive system, and getting directly into you blood stream. I did a IV series for 2 weeks, 2 x’s a day 15 drops in a saline IV bag. (a few years ago)

      I’ve also been using the Silver water for quite a few years as well for maintenance.. it has done wonders.

      If you want to talk at length about the above .. feel free to email me at :

      macaddict08@att.net

      Clint

    2. Dear Mike,

      I remember your posts. Thank you for writing. One doesn’t have to have walked each step of the past 2 1/2 years in your shoes to empathize with, and understand your actions. That is what has made the detached intellectualizations of the critics so annoying. Not only were they showing great disrespect for the people who support the use of MMS as well as those who are seeking viable alternatives, they invariably support the very system that, by its ineffectiveness at helping people to heal, has created the need for people to search for themselves.

      In that respect, the system is a blessing, in that people actually do begin relying on, and getting to know their own power, not only to heal, but to transform all aspects of their life. That is, those who truly want to live.

      Here are some thoughts to consider.

      Your body is severely out of balance. When you restore that balance, you’ll be fine.

      I’m not going to say that it is easier said than done. Balance itself needs to be better understood.

      It can be understood in molecular, chemical, microbial, electrical, emotional, mental, and spiritual terms. All of these areas comprise what is YOU.

      The molecular, chemical, microbial, and electrical aspects could be considered your physical environment.

      Because the chlorine dioxide molecule is generated in water (meaning it is of a higher vibrational frequency than minerals), and because water is multidimensional, MMS can help on the first four of those seven levels.

      The emotional and mental aspects have a great influence on the physical environment.

      Your profession as a law enforcement officer also means that you very likely are in situations of VERY HIGH EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL TOXICITY. You FEEL not only your own pain, but the pain of the people that you encounter, both the villains AND their victims.

      Let’s be clear about this… neither the doctors, nor the medical profession are going to acknowledge such things that they themselves still grappling with.

      It sounds to me as though the MMS was beginning to address the physical poisons that had surfaced in your body, but you also must address the emotional and mental.

      I say that the MMS was beginning to address it, because it seems that your body was at the start of a toxicity release… which isn’t all that pleasant while it is occurring. However, you feel GREAT once it is out.

      Some other suggestions:

      Remineralize your physical environment by creating a solé solution with himalayan salt rocks, dissolved in water. Dissolving the rocks will create a 26% saline solution that contains ALL the minerals that the human body needs. You can also get it by consuming humic and fulvic acid.

      Restoring the mineral balance will allow your body to conduct electricity once again.

      I am disinclined to suggest IV. It’s far easier to bypass the digestive system by running a bath, activating 40 drops of MMS and pouring it in. You can also add magnesium oil (MgCl) to bath water and your body would absorb it transdermally as well.

      Let’s also talk about stress. Your job must be stressful. This is the emotional, mental, and spiritual part.

      You need to give yourself a rest from the “good guy/bad guy” mindset. This is not to say that people who are doing bad things don’t need some attention, but they don’t need your scorn (if this applies to you), condemnation (if this applies to you), or vengeance (if this applies to you). If these concepts apply to you, you may feel quite justified in owning them, but you are also feeling the effects of your intentions. What we do to, or wish upon others, we do to ourselves. Since we appear to be separate, we have a high degree of deniability. However, you cannot deny how you feel right now. When you feel differently about the people you serve and even the people you “enforce” law upon, you will feel better yourself.

      These are SUGGESTIONS Mike. No judgment, only love for you, and for what you do.

      Best wishes always,

      Adam…

      1. Mike Van

        Thank you for your detailed and ineresting reply. I am not sure what I am going to do yet becasue of the small fear that the exacerbation of symptoms is not a healing crisis but something else wrong with me. You would think that after this long, I would realize that it is just a herx, but its a hard concept to swallow when you never had to exerpeince anything like that before to get better. I do believe in it but have to muster up the courage to just go for it.

        I do not believe you addressed my two specific questions pertaining to collodial silver. If you could, can you please answer those as well. Thanks, so much. It is comforting knowing there is someone like you to turn to for answers in my world of uncertainty.

        thanks, Mike

      2. Thank YOU Mike for considering my off-the-wall suggestions. I am positive you can restore your health.

        As for colloidal silver, it’s a natural biocide. It will work to inactivate living microorganisms because it is natural. It does not work on synthetic, non-living elements, such as unmetabolized chemical residue and heavy metals, which MMS appears to be effective at addressing via oxidative process. WATER IS the best, most basic, and fundamental remediation agent there is, because no matter how small a colloidal silver particle gets, it will still be denser than water, and will require water to transport it throughout the body. The chlorine dioxide molecule naturally occurs as a gas. It will always be lighter and have higher permeability than silver. This doesn’t mean that you can’t achieve some good results with silver, which is also stable. In contrast to colloidal silver, a single chlorine dioxide molecule only exists for 2 hours before it breaks down into something else, losing its oxidative properties.

        You also have the price issue… MMS costs far less than various silver products.

        The good news is that silver and MMS don’t compete. You can use them together.

        I can’t speak to how silver does its thing. However, instead of looking at the bacteria or virus as another “bad guy” that must be killed off, please consider this… they are there because the chemical environment in which they live… you might call it their neighborhood, is not only conducive to supporting their life, it NEEDS them in order to keep YOUR BODY ALIVE. This is the opposite of how bacterial and viral conditions are generally viewed these days. Although you are feeling a great deal of pain right now, they have no specific agenda to harm you.

        So lets look at the environment.

        Remember what I said about balance… it is out of balance.

        One of the main elements that are required, is oxygen.

        If you don’t have sufficient oxygen in your system, coursing all through your body, IT will not be able to support oxygen respiring (aerobic) bacteria or microorganisms.

        What did you say you were taking for five months? IV ANTIBIOTICS. They bind up oxygen, killing off microorganisms that require it in order to live. Additional evidence that you have too little oxygen is a lower pH (under 7.0, but probably substantially lower than that).

        You had an imbalance prior to taking the antibiotics, so five months of taking it by IV have simply made a bad situation worse. It’s all STANDARD MEDICAL PRACTICE, but that’s for us to learn. They’re not going to change themselves unless we change the approaches we’re willing to explore.

        MMS brings OXYGEN to the body, transported by water, the most permeable substance there is. It has a far better chance at delivering OXYGEN to all parts of the body than anything else that I know of, outside of good natural water itself.

        You might be surprised to consider that you might actually start experiencing relief from your pain by STOPPING THE MEDICATION and DRINKING MORE WATER. If the water is coherent, IT will bring naturally oxygen too. Oftentimes, water is chaotic, and also robs the body of life-sustaining resources. Also, many people mistakenly think they can drink other commercial beverages as substitutes for water.

        Colloidal silver doesn’t bring oxygen. It doesn’t work on inorganic materials. MMS/chlorine dioxide does.

        Once you have sufficient oxygen coursing throughout your body, the ENVIRONMENT can once again support aerobic microorganisms. You would benefit by taking a probiotic. You can do that by drinking RAW, UNPASTEURIZED milk… better yet, some colostrum, which is even higher in immune system building elements.

        BTW… the solé that I suggested yesterday should be taken only a teaspoon at a time, added to your drinking water. I took a teaspoon of it directly the first time I tried it, and almost had a herxheimer reaction right away.

        Please KNOW that the power to heal IS within YOU Mike.

        You can even begin by making the conscious choice to BREATHE deeply. The oxygen content in our air is lower today than generations ago, which contributes to all the problems and conditions that I’ve described and you’re experiencing now. Drinking more water, taking less or no medications, and taking in high, nutrient dense food, will turn your situation around. Taking MMS will certainly accelerate the oxygen delivery process. The oxygen will do what only it can.

        When there is enough oxygen in the ENVIRONMENT that is your body, anaerobic microorganisms will be unable to exist there. More importantly, they will be UNNECESSARY, because they were there only to keep you going, unless you did nothing different and killed yourself, or allowed current medical practices to do it for you.

        If you’re doing all these things, let me know.

      3. Lynlondon

        Adam Phaelosopher .. so pleased you are at the helm – you answered Mike so wisely and so beautifully!!
        You know last night I was up yet again for at least half the night with IBS pain not knowing what to do and I realised that (maybe yet again) these times when it seems we have hit a brick wall are gifts in disguise as they make us revolve down deep into ourselves for an answer. So often when we sail along in a ‘comfit zone’ we are not really growing. Seeing this last night I somehow feel empowered and less of a victim this morning. I have suffered with illness for 30 yrs and MMS has helped a lot, but I still have a ‘hyperthermia’ problem and cannot take cold conditions which weaken the body.
        I feel though that it helps to realise that we are the creator of our circumstances and we CAN change what we face in our lives and that came to me in the early hours of the morning and was empowering!! As creator – I have to see myself well, and focus on health, health, health. When you are steeped in ‘unwellness’ it is soo easy to focus on only this and bring in more of the same by the power of our conscious attention. I have not taken the time to explain this as succinctly as you explain your thoughts – but I hope you will glean my meaning from what I have written : )) Lynlondon

      4. Dear Lynlondon,

        I’m grateful to have you here! It CAN BE a somewhat lonely position, IN THE BEGINNING, to accept the idea that WE CREATE OUR EXPERIENCE after it has become so commonplace to disbelieve or simply deny that we have done so. What would the legal system be like if the people charged with criminal offenses said, “Yes, I did it,” or the “victims” said “Yes, I allowed it.” What would we learn about how they really feel about their life and relationships, both with others, and with self?

        If we are sincere and unequivocal with ourselves, then accepting that we create our circumstances and experience can, and will eventually lead to just you and I and many more people are beginning to do; RE-BELIEVE, and then, RE-IMAGINE their life, overlaying old attitudes, habits, and memories with new ones, new dynamics, new qualities, new responses, and new outcomes.

        With heart-felt gratitude and best wishes,

        Adam…

    3. Kevin

      Hi Mike,

      I don’t know if you have solved your problem yet or not but I am sincerely sympathetic to your situation. I’m no expert on MMS but I have read Jims books, purchased Adams DVD and further purchased Jims 8 DVD MMS Training Course set as well as many hours researching MMS on the net. In addition I work with a terrific doctor who gives me the task of Immune Stimulation. This was one of the main reasons I got interested in MMS.

      Personally from your initial reaction to taking MMS your overall internal environment sounds compromised to say the least. The end product of ineffective medical advice. It is very important that your Saliva PH which updates you daily to what is going on internally is returned to a neutral PH range. Medicine,diet and stress are your greatest problems to overcome. Fortunately a half a T spoon of Bi Carb Soda daily can help on the short term. Don’t take too much or you will give yourself toileting probs. A small amount of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar won’t hurt either.

      Although MMS is a very good oxidizer I think there are a number of other steps you could take to lesson the severity of your reaction to MMS.

      As I am a one finger typist this is not my preferred option to communicate the information required to fully resolve your situation. As I’m located in Australia Skype is probably the most affordable and best way to have an in depth discussion.

      In answer to your question about Nano Silver or even ionic or colloidal silver Yes it is a very effective part of a more complex yet affordable protocol we could put together’ A modified version of what is known as The Bob Beck Protocol – Look it up on Youtub – can be designed.

      AS for the second part to your question about penetrating cells one of the simplest solutions are negative ions and magnets. Large ferrite magnets or Magnetic pulser’s will penetrate at least 12 inches through organs and bones without harming any healthy cells but with terminal effects to pathogens.

      The bodies Bio energy system responds to different types of energy.

      To kill pathogens in the blood – 5 volts of DC electricity stepped down to 200ma at 15 cycles per second.
      To recharge and rejuvenate cells – Broad bandwidth of harmonics – Google George Lakhovsky – MWO.
      To negatively ionize and oxygenate the blood and brain – Powerful north pole( negative ) ferrite magnet under your pillow..
      To assist dissolving a lot of the crap your body needsto eliminate I would suggest drinking ozonated water as well as rigging up a cheap sauna – preferrable a cheap infra red sauna and using ozone through the skin.

      Yes I have listened to all of Jims warnings about ozone but in less concentrated amounts it is very stimulating to the immune system. If anyone wants to read a medical study by DR Velio Bocci – Ozone A New Medical Drug – he points out a lot of information most people don’t understand about how the body uses and responds to ozone aside from oxidation.

      If your interested I can send you a free Ebook I have compiled to inform clients of the many aspects of Wellness. I have also invented a few home use items which really boost and assist the Immune System.

      The bottom line Mike is that I’m not trying to sell you anything or influence you away from starting MMS. I have had to help people in a similar situation as yourself to get well and they also initially reacted badly to MMS but after they got rid of the heavy pathogen load they were then able to use MMS to get the deeper stuff etc.

      The bottom line is if you wanting to work up to MMS there are options available and that’s what I specialize in.

      If your interested – phaelosopher – we too can discuss this further since this is your Forum. Like I said I’m only trying to offer some optios for Mike to regain his health back and to commence will not be too expensive.

      Good luck whatever you decide to do.

      Best Wishes from DOWNUNDER

      Kevin

      1. Lynlondon

        My god – we do have some erudite people on this website (Kevin for eg). The sceptics have not even a chance when one reads about the pooled amount of wisdom inherent amongst the supporters of this forum and our captain, Adam, of course … most encouraging : ))

  96. Lynlondon

    CLINT words came into my mind to write to Jonsharmen and then I scrolled down a bit further and saw that you had posted the exact same words – to my way of thinking 10 thumbs up for what you said so succinctly to him!: ))

    JONSHARMEN… Could you truthfully inform us please of your present state of health. TRUTHFULLY please? Dont be vague – give us a full picture! Don’t lie to us because either way its ‘checkmate’!! : ))

    1. Clint

      Thanks Lynlondon !

      … kind of an exercise in Futility with this guy … really !

      🙂

      Clint

      1. Lynlondon

        Yeah you kind of know it even as you are responding that it IS an exercise in futility : ))

  97. This morning @ breakfast I had a conversation with our maintenance-manager, which I concider to be a wise man. He said something I like to share here.
    He said: IF YOU WANT TO PROMOTE SOMETHING, BANN IT!
    I guess this is a short version of what we see happening here and all over on the internet.
    The more THEY tell us we must stop using, selling, promoting MMS, they more determant we are to do just that. 🙂 🙂 🙂
    I called this BACKFIRING! 😉

  98. Ooh, this is a fun discussion. phaelosopher, peer-review is when, before a scientific (or other) paper is published, experts in the author’s field (his peers) review his/her work to make sure it is accurate, rigorous, etc.

    As far as the efficacy of MMS is concerned, a claim that ‘it works for me’ does not count as definitive proof: non-medicines are often used successfully to treat illness even though they don’t contain any active ingredients (placebos).

    And, Gilgamesh, MMS ‘when used as directed’ does form bleach: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm220756.htm

    Lynlondon: obviously MMS does not ‘heal’ anything. It is used to ‘treat’ illness – but this is just semantics. Humble may well claim that MMS is a killer of pathogens, but that’s not all he claims. MMS is touted as

    “The answer to AIDS, hepatitis A,B and C, malaria, herpes, TB, most cancer and many more of mankind’s worse diseases”.

    (source: http://miraclemineral.org/)

    1. It’s nice that you’re enjoying the repartee.

      This forum has been here for over three years. We know the definition of peer review. We also know from personal experience whether MMS works or not.

      What “peers” think means nothing when the disease hits home and nothing your doctor has prescribed has worked. People are searching for themselves in ever growing numbers. Whatever does work WILL be understood to have worked, and reported as such. If MMS didn’t work, people wouldn’t hesitate to say so. It’s not about “curing” disease, but disinfecting a polluted, oxygen-deficient inside. Whether MMS forms “bleach” or not is irrelevant. By EVERY measure, chlorine as used in water treatment is chemically dangerous and most of the population is exposed to it, and other chemicals daily.

      If you live by the peer review, and the peer review alone, you’ll die by it too. When push comes to a shove, intelligent people will see it, and are choosing to extend their odds.

      1. Joe_B_Wan

        It seems “Adam” has invited one of his/her buddies to
        the scene to provide backup since he/she senses his/her
        demise is approaching swiftly.

        The squiggies have breached the hull. But we have the “One”
        (phaelosopher).

        If we didn’t have evil, unholy, unrightous humanoids around,
        we wouldn’t anything to compare the GOOD ones to.

        Peace, Love and Happiness,
        Joe_B_Wan

        Joe_B_Wan

      2. Re the definition of peer-review, I was responding to your comment here: http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/no-miracle-just-wonderful-chemistry/comment-page-20/#comment-11178

        which gave the impression of a misconception.

        Chlorine itself is dangerous; use of chlorine to make drinking water fit for consumption is regularly monitored. It is used *to prevent infection* http://www.waterandhealth.org/drinkingwater/wp.html / http://swimming.about.com/od/guestauthor/qt/Water_Quality_andHealthCouncil.htm

        Conversely, use of chlorine dioxide in MMS (which turns to bleach when used as directed, despite the belief of others here to the contrary — this is *not* irrelevant) is self-administered and neither its safety nor its role, if any, in treating disease has been proven to any reasonable standard of evidence.

        Your point about personal experience has been addressed by others already (Adam) – problems of cognitive bias in self-reporting mean that this is not a reliable form of evidence. Also see what I said about the placebo effect.

        The thing about alternative medicine is that if it is proven to work, it becomes just plain ol’ medicine. MMS is certainly not that.

      3. What’s your point? You have no idea what evidence I and others here have experienced and/or seen, to blithely enter here and suggest that what is, or isn’t true based on whether it has been validated by people who’ve not shown enough interest or openness to look.

        You say that chlorine levels are regularly monitored, BUT not the effects of exposure on health. They’re watching how much they expose the public to, enough to keep deniability levels up, even though chlorine dioxide has been confirmed to be a superior disinfection method. Many of the chronic and degenerative diseases that people are experiencing today are exactly some of the projected effects of long-term exposure to chlorine.

        Tell me what chlorination turns into. You mention the word “bleach” like it’s a big deal, but what about it? Compare turning to “bleach” to THMs from chlorine. And should I assume that you KNOW that chlorine dioxide produces no such derivative chemicals?

        “Peers” aren’t going to be responsible for the choices that people make on the basis of their opinions, neither are the publications. For that matter, neither are the doctors, who oftentimes would refuse the very medications that they push on their patients.

        The science that their opinions are based on involves experiments generally performed on mice and rats, for many decades using microscopes that killed the cultures in order to observe them, and rely on chemicals measured by their lethality. Perhaps the system has provided a decent income for you. But you’re in no position to preach when you, like Adam, assume that independent investigation is not possible, and that people blindly began taking MMS without first doing some homework.

        People aren’t making this stuff up.

      4. It is very interesting to sometimes check out twitter to find out who is who…

        adam_j666 Adam Jacobs
        by rhysmorgan
        Aww, I’ve just been banned from Failosopher’s website. Seems he doesn’t like people saying MMS is a scam http://bit.ly/i3Te2T #bleachgate
        11 Jan Favorite Retweet Reply

        Jon_S Jon Sharman
        @rhysmorgan There’s no reasoning with them, is there?
        10 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

        Tweets tagged with #bleachgate»
        adam_j666 Adam Jacobs
        @Jon_S Good stuff! Perhaps you can be the new voice of reason there now that I’ve been banned. #bleachgate
        8 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

        Anybody still unsure where our new critic has arrived from and why? 😉

      5. Joe_B_Wan

        “…new voice of reason.”

        Talk about high-minded and self-righteous.
        Evil influences abound all around our realm.

        Peace and Love,
        Joe

    2. Joe_B_Wan

      I told you he is the “One”.

      Joe

      P.S. Maybe not “THE ONE”, but one of
      the “Ones”. 🙂

      1. He is ONE OF US…:-) 😉

      2. Gilgamesh

        They are all followers of Rhys Morgan, and his soul mate.

    3. We KNOW all about placeboo, and we KNOW the differance… 😉

      1. @Simunye: Serious question: The difference between placebo and what?

        I wasn’t ‘invited’ over – I followed a link and thought I’d join in. I also stand by the ‘no reasoning’ comment I made on Twitter: while people advocating for MMS are using a kind of deductive reasoning (I hoped that taking medicine X would cure illness Y; I no longer have illness Y, therefore medicine X works) – the lack of willingness on the part of most commenters to engage with criticism of that concept – besides saying ‘it works for me’ or some variant – is unreasonable.

      2. Jon
        If after several years (over 10) of suffering from asthma, using all sort of different medications and pumps prescribed by 4 different doctors (duo to several moves) with no improvement, but after 2 days of MMS my asthma is gone completly and no pump needed, than than is NO placebo-effect.
        If every time I feel a cold coming up, be it running nose, caughing or such, and after taking 6 drops of MMS the symptoms are gone within hours, than that is NO Placebo.
        Placebo would also not be possible with animals, and since I know of people who give it to their cats ect, and their animals are healtier, have healthier fur and they are dewormed from MMS this is NO Placebo either. 🙂

      3. In your response to my comment at 10:26, you did *exactly* what I had described: ‘It works for me.’

        Whether MMS works as a placebo, or better than a placebo, or not at all, can only be demonstrated through properly-conducted trials: while I can’t prove it is a placebo, you can’t prove it isn’t until trials are carried out which don’t rely on self-reporting. It’s the refusal even to admit to the possibility of it not working that I can’t get my head around.

        Please don’t think I’m attempting to denigrate your experience or anyone else’s; however, drug trials are randomised, controlled and blinded/double-blinded for a reason: people cannot always be relied upon to accurately report what happens to them.

      4. I quote:
        It’s the refusal even to admit to the possibility of it not working that I can’t get my head around.
        Now that is YOUR problem, not mine!

        Your refusal even to admit the possibility of it WORKING, that I can’t get MY head around either.
        But that is your opinion, and you have the right to your opinion as I have my rights to my experience. I also have the right to maintain my health with MMS if I wish to, and nobody, not you or Adam or anybody else has the right to deny me my rights!
        Other than that, I suggest you read what has been said before between US and Adam, to save us the trouble to repeat ourself now to you all over again, seing that you have the same issues and opinions than he has and we answered him not ones, or twice but several times. 🙂

      5. QUOTE:
        It’s the refusal even to admit to the possibility of it not working that I can’t get my head around.
        Thats YOUR problem, not mine!

        It’s the refusal even to admit to the possibility of it WORKING that I can’t get my head around either. 😉

        I suggest that you read previous post by Adam, his questions, opinions and our answers, since you have the same opinions and question. 🙂

      6. Clint

        My ‘Spidy Senseses’ are saying MAYBE, just maybe Adam and jonsharman are THE same person !!

        (since they think alike)

        😉

    4. Lynlondon

      I feel safe with MMS… I have taken a few bouts of it and I am not interested in arguing about every little aspect of it and what it is and what it is not and what it can and cannot do – I HAVE A LIFE AND DO NOT INTERFERE IN OTHERS LIVES OR THEIR GOD-GIVEN CHOICES. I just know that after 30 yrs of illness MMS is the first and only substance that helped my body to systematically clear up most unpleasant symptoms. You speak from outside the circle and you are all in your head – you have no direct experience – I am NOT interested in entering your ‘dilly daydream arena’! Give it up – we know from core experience what we know!

      1. Joe_B_Wan

        “I HAVE A LIFE AND DO NOT INTERFERE IN OTHERS LIVES OR THEIR GOD-GIVEN CHOICES.”

        Right on, mama! I couldn’t have said it better myself!

        Joe

  99. Michel Hanna

    Good afternoon,

    I’m interested in purchasing MMS but need to know if it’s safe for heart patients? I had double bypass surgery several years ago. I’m currently using the following medicine: Metoprolol Tartrate, Lipitor, Ezetimibe and Ramipril.

    Please let me know.

    Also, do you have a phone number that I can contact you at from Canada?

    Thank you,

    Michel Hanna

    1. Lynlondon

      I would in your shoes, Michel, write directly to Jim Humble who introduced the world to MMS. He has a lot of experience through his field work with MMS and suffering humanity. If he cannot directly advise you then I think he could put you onto a doctor who should be able to do so. Here are 2 email addresses that I use to correspond with Jim Humble whenever I have to :- jimvhumble@gmail.com and jim@mms2b.com – very best wishes! : )) ps Phaelosopher might be able to help further.

  100. Adam, you are talking bull….!
    I do not sell MMS and I’m sure so are many others here.
    But you know that those who are guilty of doing something that is not correct, are the ones who accuse others of doing so. This is because they know THEY are dishonest and expect others to be like themself. I must see you under that light for reason of your own behaviour.
    Ones more I tell you , do NOT compared me with you, because I have a reason to be here to share my experience, but what reason do you have to make claims you cannot possible know if you havend used MMS? OTHER THAN BEING PAID TO ANNOY USERS INTO SHUTTING UP ABOUTSHARING THEIR EXPERIECE!
    Now I sound like you, right!
    Guilty as charged and not sorry about it! 😉

  101. Lynlondon

    Phaelosopher – as you can see from Adam’s response from my email of the 11th Dec “@Lynlondon:
    “It was definitely clearing out all the toxins that were overloading my body’s healing mechanism.”
    Ah, the old detox myth. You do realise that MMS doesn’t clear out any toxins, don’t you? That’s just a myth put about by the people who sell MMS.
    You have a liver and 2 kidneys. They are pretty damn good a clearing out toxins all by themselves.
    Ask yourself this: if you think MMS is clearing out “toxins”, then why don’t you tell me what those “toxins” are?
    As for what Humble is claiming, I think you are just splitting hairs over the words. He is certainly claiming many health benefits for MMS, and has not a shred of evidence for any of them.
    You say that you started to eat well. How do you know that MMS had anything to do with feeling better? Isn’t it much more likely to be due to changes in your diet if you were feeling better?” … as I said Phaelosopher there is no pleasing this fellow and he is NOT helping this site at all… he is just involving the members in continual arguments – and is on the whole dragging the site down!! I am not overduly bothered by what he says … I am merely sick of him … well and truly sick of him and his devisive comments!!

    1. Lyn,

      Thank you for your thoughts. If there is a genuine interest in dialogue, even in disagreement, dialogue can be constructive, but you are correct, Adam has become a negative presence in our midst. Since he doesn’t respect the people he’s talking to, then there’s no need to allow him to continue. Most people peter out on their own, as in his cronies. Perhaps he wanted to see how long I’d go before he earned the distinction of being banned.

      Places like curezone.com, where there are many forums, have an MMS “debate” area for people like Adam, and an area for support. There’s no real need for debate here, and a desire to give support.

      I’ve not banned anyone before, but I’ll take whatever steps I need to minimize disruptive influences, by whatever means available.

      Regards,

      Adam…

      1. Adam1
        I posted one post 2x by mistake. The second has spellingmistakes. Will you please delete this one? Thanks..
        🙂

      2. Lynlondon

        Phaelosopher of course constructive dialogue is quite another matter and I am sure that the intelligent (no flattery only fact) people on this site would welcome same.. and I would feel sorry to see anyone banned… Maybe Adam could mend his ways and be a bit humble and realise that everyone has a right to their own choices in life – be they bad, good or indifferent…but then maybe pigs could fly as well : )) Would Adam be happy if the thousands of MMS users stopped using same today .. somehow, I think not! :In any case if one’s happiness is dependent on others behaviour then one is never likely to find true lasting happiness! : )) Adam … if you are reading this – “IS YOUR HAPPPINESS DEPENDENT ON THE MMS USERS ON THIS SITE?” Yes – trying to manipulate does boil down to trying to make oneself feel better!
        Thank you Phaelosopher for your answer! Lyn

      3. Gilgamesh

        Phaelosopher.
        I think many times Adam dont even read what we post, he just following his script and his post dont make much sense. I dont like to see anyone banned from here, but it is certain he comes here to be disruptive and negative. And most of us here not locked up in any kind MMS box, like Adam is locked up in his box.I asked Adam to comment On Jonathon Campbell’s article on MMS, but I think he never even read my post.He just repeating himself, over and over. And I agree with your last paragraph.

  102. Lynlondon

    Dear Phaelosopher,
    I know that you are aware of the fact that what one gives one’s attention to grows and grows… If we want MMS to succeed in helping people then surely we should keep focusing on the good aspects of MMS and the healing that it has brought to thousands of people. The more one focuses on what one ‘does not’ want the more one gets of the very thing one is trying to avoid and it is only in the focusing of what we ‘do want’ that that will continue to grow and thrive. I fear that this part of the website has become an area for focusing on sceptics, critics and unwanted things. I intend going on another 3 weeks protocol with the MMS and if I notice that THE BODY has then been able to heal even more ‘stuff’ then I aim to post it here to encourage people. One needs to have high good feeling vibes to attract in good things and not low scepticism-fighting vibes : ))) You write beautifully and truthfully … warmly Lynlondon

  103. Gilgamesh

    Hi Adam
    I dont know who created the arbrecology hoax, but this is not a very smart hoax. Nobody will take it seriously. And the big mistake they made, is they did not included in there, that Cleopatra used Arbrecology, and that was her secret. And that was a big red flag right there. lol lol lol

    1. Gilgamesh, you don’t need to convince me that arbrecology is totally bogus. I believe you. You’re quite right that there are red flags, although I missed the bit about Cleopatra. Where do they say that?

      But anyway, the so-called “clinical trial” described on the arbrecology website is a big enough red flag. It doesn’t seem to have been published in any peer-reviewed journal, which is enough by itself to discredit the whole thing as far as I’m concerned.

      But here’s the thing. All the stuff about MMS has plenty of “red flags” as well. Again, nothing is published in peer-reviewed journals. That’s deeply suspicious. And then perhaps the biggest red flag of all is that MMS claims to be able to cure too many diseases. If Jim Humble had just claimed to be able to cure malaria and stopped there, then it might have just about been credible. But when he also claims that MMS can cure AIDS, cancer, diabetes, and a whole host of other diseases as well, then the red flags really start waving. All those diseases have completely different pathological mechanisms. It’s simply not credible that any one treatment would be effective against all of them.

      So my question is: why are you so quick to spot the red flags for arbrecology (and rightly so), but completely ignore the red flags for MMS?

      The only reason I can think of is that you have some kind of financial interest in selling MMS to desperate and gullible people, so you want to maintain the myth that MMS has some benefits.

      Sorry, you’re not fooling me. If you want to claim MMS has any benefits, then produce some evidence.

      1. Gilgamesh

        Hi Adam
        About Cleopatra, it is not in the arbrecology, and that is the red flag. LOL. However, one of my relatives was a practicing Shaman,and he would give you seeds,and herbs in a small poach, to put it around your neck. His office was a block away from my other relative, and he was a modern doctor and his wife, they had a modern clinic.The clinic had lots of patents, but the shaman had people lined up down the street.The shaman used to meet with other shamans on a secret mountain, and those secret meetings were Biblical. My other relative a dentist, one of my relatives is working for the FDA, and 4 of my relatives are nurses, My ant, she is as good handling a machine gun as she is good in the OR.
        And I use MMS, and there are no red flags in MMS, and I have no financial interest in it, I dont sell MMS, And I m not trying to convince you, or anyone about MMS, and you have no evidence that MMS dont work,or harmful if it is used properly, but people also used it the wrong way and one person was trying to kill himself with it, and he was not successful. But you dont have to use MMS, if you think it is bleach,or if you feel it is not effective, you already drinking bleach in your drinking water. But MMS is not a bleach.
        So you are just fear mongering.

      2. Gilgamesh

        Hi adam.
        I forgot, but I should also include my brother in-law, he is a practicing Reiki Master. I get a lot of essential oils from him.

      3. Lynlondon

        Adam when I was ingesting MMS I did not for one moment feel that it was curing anything. It was definitely clearing out all the toxins that were overloading my body’s healing mechanism. Once my body was free of this overload and there is more energy flowing, then, I personally, was aware of the fact that it was up to me to eat well and to eat organic nutritional foods to support my body as it was freed up to begin what it does naturally do i.e. righting its own balance when it is given the opportunity to do so. The body is a self-healing mechanism and will heal a plethora of illnesses if it is allowed to. Stop saying that MMS cannot cure diseases with different pathological mechanisms … Who is claiming that it does?… Certainly NOT Jim Humble. Shall I copy and paste his words which should be familiar to you as you are such a hearty protagonist! Jim Humble has stated that MMS is a ‘killer’ of pathogens, bacteria etc. and that IT does not heal – the body does! When are you just going to quietly go away. Your words, your stance, your lack of clear information and mostly your lack of experience with MMS condemn you all the time as someone not worth listening to!

      4. @Gilgamesh:

        “and I have no financial interest in it, I dont sell MMS”

        Yeah, and I’m the Pope.

        @Lynlondon:

        “It was definitely clearing out all the toxins that were overloading my body’s healing mechanism.”

        Ah, the old detox myth. You do realise that MMS doesn’t clear out any toxins, don’t you? That’s just a myth put about by the people who sell MMS.

        You have a liver and 2 kidneys. They are pretty damn good a clearing out toxins all by themselves.

        Ask yourself this: if you think MMS is clearing out “toxins”, then why don’t you tell me what those “toxins” are?

        As for what Humble is claiming, I think you are just splitting hairs over the words. He is certainly claiming many health benefits for MMS, and has not a shred of evidence for any of them.

        You say that you started to eat well. How do you know that MMS had anything to do with feeling better? Isn’t it much more likely to be due to changes in your diet if you were feeling better?

      5. Adam… you expect people to respect that you’re genuine (which you’re probably not), but don’t extend the same courtesy.

        YOU CANNOT, WITH ANY CREDIBILITY, TELL ANOTHER THAT THEIR EXPERIENCE IS INVALID WHEN YOU’VE NOT HAD ANY SUCH EXPERIENCE OF YOUR OWN, AND YOUR “PEERS” HAVEN’T DEEMED THE SUBJECT COMPELLING ENOUGH TO LOOK AT IT OBJECTIVELY.

        Humble is claiming health RESULTS from MMS, based on what he’s seen and others have EXPERIENCED, none of which you have done.

      6. Adam
        MMS WOKS FOR anad my friends, wheater you believe it or not!
        Says WHO? Says ME!
        Because I KNOW from experience!
        Take it or leave it… 🙂

      7. Whether the standards are “double” or not, it’s my option to decide, not yours.

        Since you don’t care what people think, then you won’t care when I elect to have had enough of what you offer here.

        Best wishes…

      8. Clint

        Simunye:

        THAT’s EXACTLY what I tried to tell him when I went back n forth with him !!

        Maybe Adam just has TOO much “education” for us ???

        🙂

  104. ewa

    Welcome Adam part urgently needs to contact the Jim Humble.Please some contact.Thank you.Ewa

  105. Gilgamesh

    Hi Adam.
    You are wrong about arbrecology. You call it a scam, but arbrecology is not a scam. Everybody knows that arbrecology is hoax.
    Only you think it is scam.

    1. Well, whatever, hoax or scam, I think we’re both agreed it’s bullshit and we can cheerfully dismiss it.

      So now do you see why I do likewise for MMS?

      1. MMS is neither a hoax or a scam. You just don’t know that it works because you made up your mind without evidence and prove! So I do not understand why you do likewise with MMS… 😉

      2. Monika, tell me what you think of arbrecology. Do you agree it looks totally bogus?

        If so, why is it OK to dismiss it as bogus? After all, it has testimonials from people who say it has helped them.

        That’s all the evidence that there is for MMS. So why treat them differently?

      3. Adam, I have no clue what ‘arbrecology’ is, but I know what MMS is.
        Moment, was it not YOU who treats those two items the same?
        Knowing that MMS works but you don’t believe it, there is a big chance the same goes for the above mentioned to.
        I did not call it a hoax, so don’t put YOUR words into my mouth please!

      4. Sorry, you’re right, you didn’t express an opinion on arbrecology before. I was assuming you’d take the same attitude as Gilgamesh, but you’re right that that was an assumption on my part for which I had no evidence. Apologies for that.

        You can read all about arbrecology here:

        http://www.arbrecology.org

        Now, what do you think of it? Do you agree that it’s a scam/hoax? Or do you think it’s a valid form of therapy?

      5. Adam, no problem. We all can make mistakes, but as said, I have never heard of this before, nore do I know anybody who knows it. Besides that it has nothing to do with MMS and really does not belong here, I used your link till:
        “Once the seed is inserted in the skin and begins to grow, the sympathetic powers of the growing seed build up a quantum differential field which will remove dangerous toxins from the patients body and dissipates them through the growing plant.”
        Sorry, but this does not sound like something I would concider trying to find out!
        i-git-i-git, sounds gross…;)

      6. I agree with you! It certainly doesn’t sound like something to try, does it? I certainly wouldn’t try it either.

        But as you can see, there is a bit of an inconsistency here. You and many others on this site have said I have no right to criticise MMS because I’ve never tried it myself.

        Do you see that you’ve just taken exactly the same attitude to arbrecology!

      7. Adam, you doing it again!
        Don’t put YOUR words in my mouth please!
        It is NOT the same what you are doing!
        I say, it does not sound like something I would like to try.
        I do not say it does not work or that others who believe it works and who do use it must not do it or believe it!
        I have no right to force my view onto others if I don’t KNOW if it works. I have no experience to back up that claim that it is a hoax or a scam, and I will not say something I have no prove for.
        The simple thought of having something planted under my skin, is not something I fancy! That is ALL I can say! 🙂

  106. sagacious mama
    You hit the nail on the head.
    Adam is being repeating himself over and over and sends us ‘copy and paste’ to answers our questions. He has an opinion but no prove, but does not accept our experience as prove or calls us users downright, liars, deluded or sellers. I have no time for such crap anymore!
    If he wants to stay in ‘his box’, good luck to him. 🙂

    1. Gilgamesh

      Hi Simunye.
      Adam just want evidence, that MMS is not harmful and it is effective.
      But as millions of people using MMS, and if it was harmful, it would be all over the internet. Hundreds, and thousands of people would be posting that MMS is not effective, or harmful.
      But all I read from people, is that MMS helped them, with health problems, that pricey, expansive drugs did nothing, or made them worse.
      Maybe Adam should post here, how many people died from aspirin,and other drugs in the last 5 years.
      But he is just fear mongering here, And if somewhere a ten ton crate of MMS would fall from a 100 feet on somebody’s head, I think Adam would almost say that there is evidence, that MMS killed someone.
      And he is not commenting, on Jonathon Campbell’s article on MMS.
      I think he is just following some script, that somebody else wrote for him, And maybe they even pay him a few bucks.

      1. To be precise, I’m not so concerned about Adam. He may be anti MMS and sounds like a broken LP, but at least he is pretty civil about it now.
        I just saw in the news that 2million fish died in Maryland. They say this seems to be happening latly a few times, fish and births dying in masses. Now that is frightening, seing how many rely on fish for food.
        Nobody takes my experience away from me, and even less my improved health. Thanks to MMS.
        My video seems to indicate that many are interested even if they don’t talk about it. I think that many don’t talk about there experience because they don’t like to be rediculed.
        All that matters is that those who know MMS works make it known what MMS has done for them. I also think that it is improtant to share negative outcomes, especially if the protocal was not upheld.
        But I really think if somebody taking by mistake 50 drops imstead of 15 and he survived, that this speaks for itself.
        I guess everybody reacts differant to MMS, just like to any other medication.
        I call MMs a detox, because that is what it is to me. And if I have nothing in me that needs to be oxidised, I have no bad reaction! If having a bad reaction means my body has been springcleaned and some patogenes have been killed, than that is worth the trouble. 🙂

    2. Lynlondon

      Yes and Simunye – bees are dying off at an alarming rate too and they pollinate the food we eat!!!

      1. Oh dear, and hney is not only food but also very healthy and good for some ailments, like a sore throat (i hope I spelled that right)… 🙂

  107. Lynlondon

    Okay before I am corrected – I will correct my statement concerning the fact that 3 drops of MMS an hour is innocuous enough and not a great risk. I realised after pressing the ‘post comment’ button that for some 1/2 drop of MMS per hour would be the maximum dosage that they could ingest to avoid a herxheimer effect … humble apologies!! : )

  108. Lynlondon

    I would like to log on to a website where the discussion is about MMS. The relief that people have had from using MMS and where there is advise and help for newcomers who are starting out with using MMS.
    These days when I receive emails from the ‘Thought for Food’ site and I open them – the mail is often about the sceptics who for some reason frequent this site (what is there goal – they don’t seems open-minded and an asset to this site.) These sceptics just seem to want to air what they ‘believe’ is their superior knowledge. They are just dragging the purpose (in my mind) of this site down. Do we really need to argue with them to persuade potential users of MMS that what they (sceptics) say is codswallop OR can we trust that the genuine seekers will, as I did, get themselves as well informed as possible from the myriad info available and then in good faith and the interests of good health be willing to try MMS. I mean 3 drops an hour of MMS is certainly not going to harm anyone and bring on any herxheimer effect. As they slowly following the protocol – they will find out experientially that nothing ‘bad’ happens to them and after a short while will surely realise how extremely good they are feeling!! “The proof of the pudding is in the eating!” as they say! : )))

    1. Gilgamesh

      In my opinion, Adam is just copying a script or from a script that he did not even wrote himself, it was written for him, and for others in the same box. And i guess, he dont even know that he is drinking bleach every in his drinking water.

  109. @ Sagacious Mama
    Thanks for reminding me of something.
    I wrote this on facebook before, but I’m not sure if I mentioned it here already. Before I started using MMS I had a cizt in my back, between my shoulderblades. The doctor told me not to worry as long as it was not giving me trouble or pain.
    A few weeks later I had an infection right next to that cizt, the size of a 2 euro-coin. I went to hospital and it was cut open and drianed, which toke a few weeks. The doctor in hosptal told me to come back when it was healed so that they can cut out that cizt as well. They would not do it at the same time for fear of bloodpiosoning.
    In the meantime I started using MMS and when my back was healed and I wanted to go to have that cizt cut out, it was gone… 🙂
    Coincidence? That is what I was told on facebook by some of our anti-MMS experts…. 😉

    1. Lynlondon

      This is the kind of post I log on to this site to read ….. not this continual argument with bigotted sceptics!

  110. Gilgamesh

    Hi Adam.
    Jonathon Campbell wrote an article about MMS, and Phaelpsopher responded, and wrote; Chicken Little revisited; ‘MMS is Falling.’
    Would you ,please comment also on Jonathon Campbell’s article on MMS?
    And your opinion?

  111. Tanya

    Shalom Adam Abraham;

    I just want to write to you and let you know that when I stumbled upon your blog not too long ago, I was actually looking for other information for my Mother (she was diagnosed with high blood pressure a few months ago and I was doing some research online to find a solution for her (I did, by-the-way, and I’m happy to report that her blood-pressure has now been normalized without her having to go on death-dealing medications)).

    But back to MMS: I stumbled upon your blog about MMS, did some further reseach on it, and decided that it might be an alternative treatment for my child’s Dad, who was diagnosed with diabetes about fifteen years ago. I told him about MMS and he said he would try it. I received my MMS solution and activator in the mail last week, and this morning I prepared the 1:1 ratio and prepared 3 activated drops with 3 ounces of water (6 tblspns) for him.

    On his way to work this morning, he dropped by our house and drank it. I just called him at his place of business to see how he felt, and he said he was feeling just fine, and just ate lunch, but that he did feel a little sleepy after drinking the MMS, but that was it. So after work, he’s going to come back by the house in the evening and take another dose (we’re starting him out at 3 drops in the morning (with three ounces of water), and three drops in the evening), but I will keep you informed of his progression. His diabetes is starting to affect him (legs swelling sometimes), so we hope to see some improvement. Thank-you for your blog, Adam. I’ll keep you posted.

    1. sagacious mama

      Hi Tanya,

      Please document the results here if you could. Many people ask for info or start to report on their progress, but don’t report the results. I have followed up several people who inquired but didn’t follow up, and they all had raging success, total healing. That’s something really worth sharing, something the whole world benefits from hearing. I know your child’s father will get positive results, so when he gets them, just come back and let us know. 🙂

      I, and others I know, find the best results after about a week or so on 3 drops an hour, 8 to 10 times per day. I recommend a raw food diet, at least 80% raw, heavy on the green leafy vegetables (google “green smoothies” as they are the easiest and tastiest way to get pounds of greens into you). It isn’t “necessary”, and this is an MMS page, but to not include that advice on a diabetes case would be negligent.

      I also like DMSO for diabetes as it really helps take that pancreas inflammation down fast. DMSO is even used in hospitals to bring down inflammation, it’s one of the most powerful anti-inflammatories humanity has. Makes you smell funny though… when I take DMSO, my whole house reeks of a garlicy/oyster kind of smell. Worth it though.

      Disclaimer: Not intended as a prescription. I am not recommending anything, I am just saying what I like, what worked for me and others I know who used that protocol. The only thing I am “recommending” is a raw food diet. Don’t do anything without checking with God… uh, I mean, your doctor… don’t even FART. Don’t trust your own judgment or the living evidence of thousands of healed people, you are NOT capable of being trusted, and your intelligence is not enough to research anything yourself. But if you are stupid enough to attempt to research things yourself, ONLY trust FDA approved statements and studies publish in mainstream science journals funded by massive corporations. Remember, they are the ones that showed the evidence that coconuts are full of BAD fats and if you had instead followed the living evidence of millions of healthy islanders who ate coconuts, you’d be… oh wait, that advice turned out to be incorrect with modern research… uhh, well, that’s embarrassing… delete all that bit… just shutup alright! Listen to smarter people and swallow your damned pills and go watch TV. Good girl.

  112. Gilgamesh

    Poor Adam, Stuck in the box, and cant get out.

  113. Lynlondon

    JIM HUMBLES WORDS ON THE NEWSLETTERS RE ‘THE CHURCH’ : –

    “In England, one person selling MMS got out their Church logo and Minister’s Certificate and showed them to the people who came to take their things. Those people left with nothing, not wanting to attack a Church.
    I hope you understand that Churches have the protection of people’s consciences.
    No one wants to be responsible for attacking a Church, but on top of that, and even more important, the Churches have the protection of the law. In the eyes of the common law of man that has come down to us from antiquity, and is still fully in effect, the philosophy of separation of church and state is that the Church has equal powers with the government. The government thinks twice before sending people out to attack a Church as they are concerned about the waves it will cause in society. In addition, those whom they send out are almost always very apprehensive about attacking a Church.
    Remember, we adhere to no specific religious doctrine but although our Church is not religious, we are spiritual. These are our beliefs:
    Doing good deeds;
    Healing for free; and
    Always doing what is right.”

    1. Thanks Lynlondon for explaining to those who do not know about the real reason for Jims Titel and church.
      I think it is a sorry affair that the only way MMS can be protected is by the church.

      Doing good deeds;
      Healing for free; and
      Always doing what is right.”

      …sounds good to me! Anybody having a problem with that? That is there problem, not ours! 🙂

      1. Lynlondon

        Its a pleasure Simunye! : )) I think it a brilliant ploy on Jim’s part … otherwise MMS would die to the world!
        What a true humanitarian he is… I mean with all the hassle he gets – he could have retired long ago … staying healthy and fit on MMS (as he claims), but ‘No’ he has a great vision of a world free of illness which he persists in ‘fighting’ for even at his age! He found the one and only loophole to outsmart BigPharma – and in some ways it sounds zany and yet it is the only loophole that keeps BigPharma at bay!

  114. Pavlos Yiorkas

    Dear Mr. Adam

    My name is Pavlos Yiorkas and i am 24 years old. I come from Cyprus-a small Greek island in the Mediterranean sea. I like to investigate and discover non-conservative ways of heeling or maintaining health and well-being.

    I have accidentally “fell” on your website and start reading about the MMS supplement. I have to admit, that i was intrigued by the whole concept behind it and i decided to try it.

    My problem is that everywhere i looked i didn’t find any “clear” schedule of usage for the supplement for young people like me and this is what pushes me back from purchasing it. As i mentioned above i am 24 years old and very healthy.I would really appreciate if you can send me a schedule of usage for the category of people that i belong in order to maintain a “boosted” immune system. (young+healthy).

    Sincerely yours

    Pavlos Yiorkas

    1. johnwoowoo

      The age does not matter, it is about how much pathogens you have accumulated in your body. Nobody can know that, so there is only one starting schedule: the CAREFUL schedule.

      Take 1 activated drop ( = 1 MMS + 5 citric acid 10% drops) just to see if it does anything, if not, tomorrow try two drops, add one drop every day. When the numbers go up, spread the schedule over the whole day. Don’t worry if it takes a week.

      MMS is not magic, it does not make the pathogens disappear, you still need time to detoxify. You can go through the spring cleaning in your body as a hasty fool in 2 days of the worst hangover of your life, or you can let MMS do its job comfortably over a week of careful and patient dosage.

      Make sure you drink enough water, that is a prerequisite for any detoxifying medicine or procedure. Don’t increase dosage if you have any detox symptoms, but don’t completely stop either, once you start you must also finish.

      Once the initial spring cleaning in your body is finished and MMS no longer gives you any reaction, you can take MMS as you think you need.

      It is very individual, for example my father had a significant detox reaction after just one drop of MMS, but my mom (something like a vegetarian) started to take MMS on a flu without any side effects.

      MMS is not a replacement for immune system, it is a specific “weapon” that destroys pathogens and dissolves sediments in body, then after an hour it decomposes on salt.
      You still need your immune system to clean up after that and to keep the body secure from new pathogens. Just live healthy, take vitamins, etc. Do not take MMS together with artificial vitamin C, (ascorbic acid) they neutralize each other. Don’t take MMS on the same day you took pills of vitamin C.

    2. Pavlos, I’m curious: why the interest in MMS? If you’re interested in “non-conservative ways” of maintaining health, there are many other alternative treatments out there. Most of them don’t work, but most of them are at least fairly harmless. For example, homeopathy is completely harmless (although also completely useless).

      Some forms of herbal medicine are harmless enough (although some can be harmful) and some even work.

      And then acupuncture is very well established, and although some serious side effects have been reported, it’s pretty safe in the hands of licensed practitioners (although again, probably useless too).

      There are loads of other alternative treatments, like faith healing, chiropractic, reiki, arbrecology, naturopathy, and ayurvedic medicine.

      Now, granted, most of them are worthless, but they are generally a lot safer than drinking industrial bleach (you do know that MMS is industrial bleach, right?), which is also worthless.

      So why the interest in MMS?

      1. Clint

        Adam,

        Seems the more you post on here, the more you reveal your ignorance as well as declare yourself an idiot !!

        You are about as qualified to say acupuncture, chiropractic homeopathy, etc… are worthless as you are qualified to fly to the moon.

        Are you that bored that you have to post ignorant garble on a blog here, knowing that most of the people on here could give 2 shits about you ?

        Seriously…. you’re pathetic Adam.

        C

      2. I think I’m pretty well qualified to say whether those treatments are worthless or not. Homeopathy is clearly worthless, given that it contains ABSOLUTELY NO ACTIVE INGREDIENT.

        Chiropractic, as I’ve said, may be of some benefit in treating back problems, but the idea that it can treat things like asthma is just fanciful.

        And then seriously, you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to know that arbrecology is worthless. Tree seeds in the human body building up a quantum differential field? Are you seriously trying to tell me that that has any merit whatsoever? I don’t think you’ll find a single peer-reviewed paper on that.

      3. The operative phrases in your statement is “I think I’m pretty well qualified…”

        Of course YOU THINK you are… that doesn’t make what you’re saying true. Yet, you’ve been taught to believe that you are qualified, even an authority in a subject that you clearly know little, if anything, about. You will NEVER grow thinking only in the box that you have been put in, that you confine yourself in without any additional conditioning.

        Your habit of judging the merits of an idea by its lack acceptance by YOUR familiar influences will keep YOU forever BEHIND and UNDER them. You’re paid a big price for such obedience. But then, you don’t know it, so it’s no big deal.

      4. Phaelosopher, I’m a medical statistician, which means I have specific qualifications in assessing whether medical interventions work.

        Sorry if they’re the wrong kind of qualifications for you, but there the one that mainstream science recognises, and which have led to scientific progress in the past.

        I also happen to have a PhD in chemistry from a previous career, so when I see claims like “quantum differential field” as a postulated mechanism for healing, I know that that’s total garbage without even having to look at the statistics.

      5. Adam,

        Being a statistician, medical or otherwise, automatically and always puts you in the position of not knowing what’s in front of your face until you have “verified” it statistically. And, you can never know whether ALL relevant or contributory information has been included. You are always subject to the motives, methods, and agendas of everyone who feeds you information. That’s why you’re placing so much importance on “peer reviews” and publication in journals, but they are human too, and subject to the same unseen biases.

        You have been trained well, conditioned to pass off as rubbish, garbage, bullshit or other pejorative term for anything that your “Authorities” have not said have merit. By propping them up, you put yourself down, and don’t even know it.

        Perhaps it’s a survival mechanism… I don’t know and it’s not my business. But you show primary allegiance to something outside of yourself. It may be making a comfortable life for you, but you operate in a perpetual non-learning mode, convinced that you are “right” and anything outside of your approved orthodoxy is “wrong.”

      6. Clint

        lol . . . .

        THAT explains a lot ! . . . . I can rest easy now.

        Stuck ‘inside the box’, . . . poor guy ! 🙁

      7. Sorry Clint, not sure I follow you there. In what way am I stuck inside the box? Is it that I expect scientific evidence to follow rigorous standards? Or is it that I call bullshit when I hear phrases like “quantum differential field”?

      8. Phaelosopher, I’m happy to believe anything is an effective health intervention if I can see reliable, trustworthy evidence for it. That means evidence from controlled clinical trials to exclude all the cognitive biases that result from individual assessments of treatments.

        There’s a huge literature on cognitive biases. You would find it interesting.

      9. I hear what you’re saying, but you’re not OPEN to using your own intelligence unless someone else has rubber stamped it first. You’re not searching for anything original. You’re not open to discovery… YOUR OWN discovery. That’s why you don’t see the box that you’re in. You therefore make yourself subject to boxes — and biases — that others make for you.

        Find your SELF… you’ll find it interesting.

      10. Clint

        Adam (the real one),

        I could NOT have said this any better !

        You hit it right on the head my friend !!!

        Clint

      11. OK, Phaelosopher, I expect I’m going to regret this, but that last post of yours intrigues me, so I’ll humour you for a minute.

        What exactly do you mean by “you’re not searching for anything original”? I suspect you don’t mean the same thing that I understand by it. I would say that I am frequently searching for original things, as I am involved in designing and analysing clinical trials for my day job. They frequently come up with original knowledge. But I suspect that’s not what you meant, is it?

        So, if that isn’t what you meant, then can you explain what you did mean? What specific attitudes or behaviours would I need to adopt to, as you put it, get outside my box?

      12. Whether you agree with what I’m about to say or not, I honor you for the courage that you showed in asking the question.

        Courage is one of the first casualties of conformity. It takes no courage to stay in one’s box. To move outside might take you outside of the “approval zone” of your peers. You would also have to become secure in — TRUST — your own judgment. This can never be done if one only suckles from the breast of another’s opinion.

        You said that “they” frequently come up with original knowledge in designing clinical trials… not “we,” not I. But then, “they” are in the same box that you are in.

        If you considered, for a moment, that the people here who have told you their experiences with MMS are being truthful, and recognized the information as providing valuable clues, you’d learn quite a bit more. The few people who have tried to give MMS horror stories, were shown to be fraudulent. It’s not that everyone has a great experience… the process of healing is not always “fun” or pleasant. But the option for someone who is chronically ill is to follow their doctor’s advice — which has shown itself to be ineffective, but is considered accepted — and not heal. People are dying each day following that logic; unwilling to TRUST their own intelligence and choices. They console themselves by angrily ridiculing others who are choosing to live, stepping out on the limb, taking responsibility for their choices, forgiving the past, seeing themselves in a new and brighter future, going through the discomfort of purging toxicity, and getting well.

        So courage to have your own opinion and respect for another’s truth are big pieces of the puzzle. Expanding your concepts of what is possible, is another. If a lot of people who don’t know each other are reporting similar positive results that are outside of what current methods can claim, then this is reason for, and a great opportunity to learn, not ridicule. You and your crew (whether you know each other or not) have taken the role of denouncers, dissuaders, and detractors here, but you only diminished your own credibility since you don’t accept the science that supports why MMS is helpful, and don’t own your own knowing which supersedes that of peers. When you ridicule people who do have helpful knowledge, the only real “loser” is you.

        Our world is always changing, and many of the innovations that we take for granted today came from people who were outsiders, mavericks, and did not bow to conventions of their day. They had to risk and endure the very same ridicule that you, the FDA, and all who feel threatened by the change that MMS may represent, have meted out against Jim Humble. I wonder whether you care enough about making positive changes to stand tall in your own KNOWING that may differ from your peers and have that kind of judgment directed at you.

        You have a PhD and yet, all that training didn’t instill the common courtesy to respect another human being who is working from his knowledge, and does know what he’s talking about, to do something positive to improve the human condition.

        People here have told you the positive results they have experienced themselves, and it has not touched your heart… yet.

        This is how you maintain your box, and only you can free your self… if you want to.

        Doing so would make you more valuable to your colleagues (if they see it), and to humanity (even if they don’t agree).

      13. Thank you for your detailed reply. Will cogitate on it and share my thoughts tomorrow.

      14. OK, have read your detailed reply. Here goes.

        First, thanks for taking the trouble to give such a detailed reply. I asked my question in a perfectly genuine spirit, and I appreciate that you took the time to respond in kind. Clearly, we disagree about many things. However, it’s also clear that you are an intelligent person with some interesting ideas, and I am still hopeful that I may learn something from you. I really don’t think you have much to teach me about chemistry, but when you talk about discovering one’s true self and stuff like that, then you’re verging more into philosophy, which is a subject I don’t know much about, and where it’s quite possible I may learn something interesting.

        However, the problem I have with your post is I don’t think you’ve completely appreciated the reason why I dismiss the stories I’ve read on this website about positive experiences with MMS. It’s really not that I’m not open to new ideas. I absolutely am. It’s just that I want to be sure I can trust the information that might lead to new ideas.

        There’s what I see as an important contradiction in what you said. First you say “trust your own judgement … This can never be done if one only suckles from the breast of another’s opinion.” Quite right. I totally agree. But then you go on to say that I should not dismiss reports of positive experiences with MMS. The trouble is that those positive experiences are someone else’s opinion. So why should I trust them?

        Are you familiar with Bayesian statistics? Some of the mathematical details are quite tricky, and although I’m a professional statistician, I must confess it’s not something I’m an expert in when it comes to the mathematical details, but it provides an excellent intuitive framework for looking at a variety of questions, and you really don’t need to understand the maths to use it. There’s an excellent article about it from a totally non-mathematical perspective here.

        The way it works is this. If I receive a piece of information, then the weight I put on that information depends on what I already know about the subject. If the new information seems entirely plausible in the light of what I already know, then I am fairly ready to believe it. However, if it seems implausible, then that’s different. It doesn’t mean that I automatically won’t believe it: that would result in a closed mind and an inability ever to learn anything new. But what it does mean is that I will treat it with suspicion and make sure that the information is of good quality before I believe it.

        Let me give a trivial example of how that might work in practice. If I’m sitting at home with my girlfriend and see a vague movement out of the corner of my eye, I would be very ready to believe that my girlfriend is moving around the room. However, if I’m at home by myself and I see a vague movement out of the corner of my eye, I wouldn’t assume it’s someone moving around the room. Of course it’s possible that someone has broken into my house, but that’s unlikely, and I wouldn’t believe it without looking directly at the part of the room where I thought I saw a movement.

        The trouble with the positive stories about MMS is that they simply don’t meet the high quality threshold that I demand if I am to believe something unlikely. I can think of 2 very plausible reasons why people might write positive things about MMS even if it doesn’t work. First, MMS is sold via a pyramid selling scheme, so there are many people out there making relatively small amounts of money from selling it. Those people have an incentive to talk it up. There is no way for someone like me to tell whether any individual person posting about MMS has a financial interest in it or not.

        The second reason is that we as human beings are very prone to believe something works even when it doesn’t, as a result of well-documented cognitive biases such as illusory correlation or confirmation bias. Someone may have a cold, take MMS, and get better, and assume it was the MMS that was responsible, even though colds get better anyway. So some people may genuinely believe that their minor ailments have been cured by MMS, even if they weren’t. After all, a great many people believe that they have been cured by homeopathy, even though (and I guess we may disagree again here) there is a large body of research on homeopathy, which shows that it is no better than placebo. So if it can apply to homeopathy, then I’m sure it can apply to MMS as well.

        I would be happy to believe that MMS was a useful health cure if I saw *reliable* evidence of it from controlled clinical trials, but the trouble is none of the evidence I have seen so far is reliable. And since it seems on the face of it to be unlikely that drinking industrial bleach would be good for you, I need any evidence that it is to be reliable.

      15. Adam,

        Clint has expressed things pretty much as I would have. When you say that you must trust the information that might lead to new ideas, you don’t include yourself as a credible source. You’ve been conditioned to “trust” only certain types of sources, and you have striven to gain “credentials” yourself. By seeking to get into that “club” (i.e., box) you exclude any source that you (or your box makers) have deemed not “credible,” a euphemism for not worthy of your respect. You’ve shown great disrespect to people who have come here to share their knowledge and experiences, and to learn. The stigma that you have tried to lay on MMS is not based on any personal knowledge, but on hearsay.

        There is plenty information available about chlorine dioxide, from credible sources, that could support anyone’s curiosity on how it works IN GENERAL, and how it differs from chlorine IN GENERAL. You’ve not acknowledged this information, and others have simply misstated it, attributing to chlorine dioxide behavior that actually applies to chlorine. If you were using YOUR intelligence, you wouldn’t have a problem acknowledging reason when it is shown to you. And even then it wouldn’t mean that you should take MMS. No one here cares whether you take it or not. If you chose to, we would care that you use it in the way that is most appropriate and beneficial, for you. That way may not be like anyone else’s.

        It is also not hard to reason that if chlorine dioxide is as effective at inactivating pathogens as have been demonstrated by National Institutes of Health, the EPA, and even approved by the FDA for larger scale applications, that the same principles might actually apply in the human ecosphere if they were appropriately scaled down. It doesn’t take a PhD to see that possibility. It seems that it takes a PhD to be blind to it, except that I know PhDs who do see it. So let’s not demonize PhDs.

        Putting aside the likelihood that this is just a job to you, that you’re simply being the devil’s presence here as part of an MMS dissuasion campaign, there is no rational reason to assume that every person writing something positive about MMS has an agenda; particularly where they are speaking from personal experience. If they have an agenda, it certainly isn’t about making a living on MMS sales. But I could see how you might dutifully try to dissuade people against using MMS — even though you’ve never used it yourself and don’t really know what you’re talking about — just to appease or satisfy a paying customer. I can see that as a possibility.

        Yet, having so little to hang your hat on, you try to manufacture reasons to take umbrage with anything MMS. An affiliate program is not a “pyramid” scheme, nor is it Multi-Level Marketing. With indignation you cite these as examples of a profit motive, when the Orthodoxy that you speak for siphons $trillions off the public each year, and at the expense of their health. It’s hard to believe you can’t make this simple distinction enough to know what is meaningless and what is important. But the truth is that you can… you just choose not to.

        You say that positive experiences are “someone else’s opinion”… not so. Experiences are not “opinions”. Experiences represent knowledge. Experiences are powerful information. Opinions are… well, what you bring to this forum. Not so effective, except if they are heeded by someone who knows less than you do. And that’s okay too.

        You say it yourself: that you weigh information based on what you already know. However, instead of respecting the knowing of others, which can be discerned through interaction, you simply reason that they are not “you”, so their information must be subject to question. Yet, you’ve got a better opportunity to get to know, and interact with, the people you’re talking to here than you do the folks who make up those peer groups.

        Then there’s your comment about what is “unlikely”. If you believe that health improvements are “unlikely” if an effective disinfection effort is undertaken, then you leave virtually no opening for rational discourse.

        Modern education has shown people how to get credentialed without actually using their own intelligence. They’re judged by how well they honor and/or regurgitate someone else’s opinion. But what will they do when they see for themselves, how wrong the opinion is? Would you, like Galileo after looking through the telescope and seeing that the sun didn’t orbit the earth, speak up? Or would you wait for the pope, who refused to look and see for himself, to say it was “okay?”

        It took the Catholic church 500 years to apologize for their myopic reprisals against Galileo.

        People who are experiencing various infirmities will greatly improve their recovery when they choose to learn without dismissing another’s information without a fair hearing, then making the choice that best serves their needs. None of these steps require “debate.”

      16. Clint

        Adam,

        This “high Quality Threshold” you speak SO highly of, is Corrupt ! !  How you can’t see it is beyond me. But, you view it as one of THE ONLY sources of credibility as a hoop to jump thru. This is why you live in a box of narrow-minded, self-protected rigid rules . . . that even IF a cure for cancer DID come along, it wouldn’t jive with the narrow-minded, tunnel vision criteria you so praise and choose to live by.

        And… MMS is Sold via a “Pyramid Selling Scheme” ?!?!  Please tell me you are kidding me !  Sorry Adam, but MMS is not multi-level, nor sold as a “Pyramid Scheme” (this, coming from an educated, degreed analyst such as yourself ?… and you blindly believe that ?!  LOL !!)

        Here’s what most MMS believers believe Adam…. they believe that their Gov’t and Medical System has failed them, and is corrupt beyond belief ! … and most of the “believers” have been sick for a period of time that they know in their heart and gut that the medical way is not the way to true healing, and have no choice but to try and be their own doctor, and get well by researching non FDA approved products (i.e Rife Technology, Ozone, etc…. and now MMS)

         And yes, life IS about risk, and knowing when to take it. When I read about MMS, something just resonated within me that THIS just might be the real deal, I couldn’t poke holes in it .…. So, I ordered some, and tried it. …something that your Skeptical mind wouldn’t even Fathom doing, cause you need data, charts, and Statistics before you venture out and take a risk.   Are you really that Fearful? Good Lord !

        If MMS, doesn’t work for you, then move on. Is it that you can’t or don’t want to believe that (at this point) millions of people have tried it ?… and are still alive after taking it, AND doing well ?…. and that most of those people are simply lying on all these blogs ? Do your “Statistics” show that to be true ?

        You sound ‘Highly Educated’ Adam … but, you come off as being Supremely Ignorant when it comes to taking risks and finding your own way. If you were to ever get married, would you need “Data”… “Statistics”…. to take that risk ?… or, would you trust your heart and ignore the box you live in ?

        For you to say that you need “Reliable Evidence” from “Controlled Clinical Trials” HAS to be one of THE most Naive statements I’ve heard you say yet. It’s obvious you haven’t done ANY research about how when it comes to “Clinical Studies”, how most of them are corrupt (as the system is already) and they “cherry pick” their data. But, then I realize you look thru Rose Colored Glasses when it comes to all that.

        You seem to have ‘Blind Faith’ when it comes to believing in your FDA, Gov’t, etc… thinking that they have your best interests at heart, you’re ALL for that (with no data or “research” needed)  Why ?

        It’s obvious you’ve never been deathly ill, and had your back against the wall … cause even if the Truth could Stare you in the face, you’d still blow it off and rely ONLY on the information you (think) you know in the little box of yours, and “cherry-pick” your ‘Data’, mainly because your mind thinks as a group … and not for yourself.

        Thanks for the entertainment …

      17. Clint, you don’t seem to believe that MMS is sold via a pyramid selling scheme.

        Would you like to comment on this web page then? Do you think it’s a fake?

        http://www.miraclemineralmms4sale.com/affiliateinfo.asp

        As for clinical trials, I have worked in clinical trials for my day job for the last 15 years, so I know exactly how they work, thank you very much. I also know why they are essential if you want to make a judgement about a medical intervention.

        And yes, some clinical trials are of poor quality, and some are even reported fraudulently. That doesn’t mean that all clinical trials are therefore worthless. By analogy, you might say that some politicians are corrupt, so it would be better if we lived in a dictatorship instead.

      18. Clint

        Adam,

        . . . . remember when I said you like to Cherry pick ?!?! 😉

        The more you talk, the more you sink your own boat my friend. The prices for this website are incredibly cheep anyway. Please, show me 10 sites like this. Besides, I’d challenge this site to be real anyway, as I have NEVER seen an MMS site that requires one to give a SSN or EIN like this one does. Have you ?

        So, I guess some clinical trials are of poor quality (as you say) so does that make ALL websites a Pyramid scheme when you come across one website selling MMS that asks for a SSN ? Are you abiding by your own rules here ?

        Adam … almost ALL Politicians are corrupt to be even to play in that toxic game. The system is set-up to fail… you can’t see this ?

      19. Oh get real Clint. You know perfectly well that MMS is sold via pyramid selling.

        Or are you going to try to tell me that this site is a fake as well?

        http://jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23&Itemid=2

        I quote:

        “You can become an affiliate and promote (sell) my books, DVD, and MMS bottles. You get a 50% commission for each book you sell and you don’t have to handle the book, money, or shipping.”

      20. Wow! Besides that I did not know what a pyramid-selling-sceeme is, I also did not know that MMS was sold that way. So I checked out the link Adam gave! Very interesting indeed.
        I cant really see anything wrong with that, if someody who maybe would like to help sell MMS to help others but does not have the nesseccary know-how, or to have an aditional income without having to produce the product. I don’t think I would do this to make money, but to help selling it because I believe in it, would be worth while concidering! Thanks Adam… 😉
        Oh sorry, that was not why you supplied us with that link! hi…hi…backfiring again! 😉

      21. Clint

        lol ! …. ME get real ?!!?

      22. I’m still thinking, but for those who like to suport Jim and MMS…here is another link now!
        Tahnks again Adam! 🙂 🙂 🙂
        http://simunye1.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/promoting-and-help-selling-mms/

      23. I’m still thinking, but for those who like to suport Jim and MMS…here is another link now!
        Thanks again Adam! 🙂 🙂 🙂
        http://simunye1.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/promoting-and-help-selling-mms/

      24. sagacious mama

        Hi Adam,

        I don’t get it. You came in with all the same accusations about MMS that you still have and like you, I required you to back up your statements, yours being that MMS is “toxic” and harmful etc. You gave me two links. I had already read through one of them in the past, and I read through the other one thoroughly, including downloading all the pdfs. I then reported back the findings of the sources for all you say here.

        There was NOTHING in those toxicology reports except proof chlorine dioxide works as suggested.

        There were many studies cited in the reports, on both sodium chlorite and chlorine dioxide, and where sodium chlorite had a lower lethal threshold of about 150mg/kg, chlorine dioxide’s was at >10000mg/kg.

        Read that again, because that is a MASSIVE dose.

        The toxic dose that showed any negative organ change whatsoever was in fact higher than table salt (3gm/kg is lethal salt dosage).

        Table salt is sodium chloride – it also contains chlorine. I can’t believe I’m pointing this out to a lab rat but, just the presence of a chlorine molecule does not automatically make it toxic.

        As I said, sugar, salt, EVERYTHING is toxic if it passes the lethal threshold. Chlorine is liberated from salt in the body… are you suggesting this will damage you, too?

        Again, I must ask for your evidence of harm from chlorine dioxide. You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t accept, “it’s a bleach, so it must be harmful.” My degree is in health science, you don’t need to baby me, show me your evidence.

        Everyone knows chlorine “bleach” so it is easy to pull the wool over the masses with “yanno it’s a BLEACH, you don’t want to drink BLEACH do you?” “You’re not that STUPID are you?” left unsaid.

        We all know bleach is a scary word, so when you continue to use it, you make it clear you are using fear, not logic and evidence. Have the guts to fight fire with fire. You want evidence it is safe, I want evidence it is harmful. The evidence I accept that it is safe is the research done on it, the food grade use, its presence in toothpastes, etc, but mostly the almost a million people have taken it and not one death has been reported, and only nausea as a side effect. I believe dehydration could be a problem due to vomiting if someone takes more than the recommended dose but to speak of more than the recommended dose is irrelevant.

        I could care less about the words “toxic” and “bleach” because I’ve been in the health game for 15 years now and found that chemistry is the important thing, not hype.

        It was obvious to me at the time that you hadn’t even read those reports and just linked “chlorine dioxide toxicology report” because that sounds scary to those who are not versed in scientific research. Either that or you don’t know yourself and linked it because you thought within it would show evidence for your claims.

        I have been researching ClO2 for a long time now, I’ve seen all the “evidence” of harm… and it’s a bit thin on the ground. Which must frustrate you no end but that’s no excuse to hype up the fear factor. Let the evidence stand for itself, it doesn’t need you fluffing around it dramatically… really, it doesn’t.

        Have you met Jim? Have you visited him at the places he heals large numbers of people? Adam (Phaelosopher) has. His experience, trials and evidence FAR outweighs yours… I cannot even impart just how much he outweighs you in this arena. He went to Haiti, he went to the Dominican Republic, and previous to that I believe he has visited Jim in other areas. You are essentially calling Phaelosopher a liar. Because he is telling you hard core diseases have been cured undeniably by ClO2 and you are saying, “no it hasn’t”. Seriously? What are you stumbling over here? WHAT part of this don’t you get?

        I personally have witnessed miracles with the stuff. People take it for one thing and another thing goes away, and when I say “thing”, I mean diabetes, uterine cysts and all manner of debilitation, otherwise untreatable conditions, not just a cold as you suggested.

        May I suggest the research of Thomas Lee Hesselink, MD:
        http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXilus.htm

        He even makes it easy on you with purty pictures and stuff.

        This is the same, but with references and no purty pictures. His references are extensive.

        People take ClO2 for cancer, and when people like yourself suggest it is too toxic it is laughable. Have you seen the toxicology report of chemotherapy? I can tell you right now you will NOT find any evidence of safety for chemotherapy, so what do you say to doctors who suggest chemo for cancer? Isn’t it your duty to tell all those patients that they are taking a toxic substance? Shouldn’t you be out there on the cancer forums suggesting things like, “well, good luck if you’re going to risk it. It’s radiation, you know, it’s a poisonous chemical cocktail.” What are the chances I will find posts by you out on the innernetz doing that public service?

        Because there is actually mountains of evidence to show the toxicity of chemo, as opposed to ClO2.

        The fact is, we take toxic chemicals because the benefits outweigh the risks. People take a toxic chemical that damages their liver for headaches and pain. They take all kinds of things and will walk on fire if necessary. In all the research out there showing the safety of ClO2, and all the people still alive after using it – not just alive, but better off – we’re obviously not talking about a wickedly toxic substance here. If the powers that be ever manage to wrangle up a decent argument against it and show evidence of harm, in my opinion that had better be something really bloody serious because not having diabetes is worth more risk than you obviously think it is.

        Not dying from cancer is WORTH the risk.

        Not suffering migraines is WORTH the risk.

        And for me personally, not having diabetes anymore and not having cysts in both ovaries, fibroids in my uterus and breasts, migraines and constant fatigue was WORTH it. Doctors FAILED me. They had nothing to offer me. I had surgery once but it all came back again. I suffered terrible pain most of the time. So seriously, you had better give me something showing serious toxicity for me to really give half a damn about the so-called “risk” you keep touting here.

        What if I was one of the people you managed to scare off this stuff? I’d still be doubled over in pain and sticking my fingers with needles every time I ate.

      25. sagacious mama

        Shoot, I forgot that second link with the references: http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprnt+refs.htm

      26. Whatever. Bottom line is this: there is no credible evidence that MMS has any benefits, and plenty that it is harmful. Granted, probably not very harmful at sufficiently low doses, but given that there isn’t any really good research to define what counts a “sufficiently low”, why take the risk?

        Sagacious mama: I don’t think you read that report very carefully if you didn’t find any evidence of harmful effects from ClO2. Read section 3.2.1.1 again, which describes someone who died after being exposed to it.

        You may think that a few random bods posting unverifiable anecdotes on the internet counts as good quality evidence. I don’t. None of your quite astonishingly ill-informed grasp of chemistry and basic human biology will convince me otherwise. If we believe random postings on the internet, we would also have to believe that aliens have abducted humans on numerous occasions and that Elvis is still alive (and probably in cahoots with the aliens as well).

        If you want anyone outside the loony alt-med community to believe that pouring bleach down your throats is anything other than an attempt to win a Darwin award, then do some clinical trials.

        But we all know you’re not going to do any clinical trials, because you know perfectly well that they would show MMS to be harmful.

      27. Rhedda

        Adam,
        youv’e given your credentials :

        “I’m a medical statistician, which means I have specific qualifications in assessing whether medical interventions work.”

        youv’e stated your position which among other things includes this bit on your thought processes:

        ” It doesn’t mean that I automatically won’t believe it: that would result in a closed mind and an inability ever to learn anything new. But what it does mean is that I will treat it with suspicion and make sure that the information is of good quality before I believe it.”

        (which if I may humbly suggest at that point the campaign you wage here becomes virally obtuse when you call MMS industrial bleach and say it’s application for the body is “worthless” without applying the same standards you boast to back up that statement. Calling MMS worthless is not a gesture of suspicion, it is an as of yet unfounded defamation… What a mess youv’e gotten into.

        And to top it off, when a response comes to you with this medical thesis by an MD on the mechanism of MMS against Malaria, you respond with “whatever, the bottom line is…” Does that not sound like an arrogant reply in this reasoning process which had your answer been more shall I say “inclusive”, would otherwise possibly raise the platform of this discussion?

        So after reading the link http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprnt+refs.htm as a sceptic, you ARE in fact, to a specific degree, “closeminded” and are, via the buffer of your thinking process, unable “to learn anything new” or at least CONCEED TO THE POSSIBILITY of the effectiveness of MMS.

        It is your professionalism gone wrong, replaced by rabid and even pathological antagonism, otherwise what is the basis for your long stay here ? It’s just feels so ridiculous.

        Take a little turn here…
        On one of my last posts, I was asking you about your views on Genetically Modified Foods. could you give me your views on them?

        thanks

      28. sagacious mama

        Adam, I have had many discussions of this nature with people with much higher science pull than yourself online and offline and the discussions have never guttered into this tripe. That only happens with lay persons or idiots, not with scientists, in my experience. But I will trust you are neither an idiot nor a layperson, based on no evidence except your word, because I extend that courtesy indiscriminantly, not just to those who believe what I believe.

        We are talking about oral use of chlorine dioxide last I checked. Let me make this clear for you: there have been no deaths from oral use of chlorine dioxide.

        The death you are hanging on to as “weight” was due to massive inhalation (which I already pointed out is when it becomes lethal, hello, are you even reading?) because he was inside a tank of the stuff. Plus, it was in 1959, so not even one other overdose has happened in 50 years.

        Snorting ibuprofen won’t do you any favours either but only a blithering idiot would go to a discussion and bring that up… “yanno, if you inhale ibuprofen, you’ll die… one guy did that once!”

        I already told you, twice now at least, that you can overdose on anything. I already told you, once at least, that inhalation will damage your lungs (I don’t snort my aspirin either, do you?).

        Thanks for, again, pointing out that you can indeed overdose on chlorine dioxide but really, what else do you have? I know what you have… zip. I also know you are here to debunk, not learn or be “open” because your language belies you, as does the evidence. We have the evidence (including experiential evidence, which is valid science), you have nothing but a guy who gassed himself to death 50 years ago in a tank full of the stuff.

        You can bring in red herrings, straw men, and ad hominem logical fallacies all you like, you can’t change the facts. The facts stand for themselves: you ain’t got jack, and we have hundreds thousands of users who are unharmed. Even if you don’t believe it works, you can’t deny the fact these people were unharmed. That’s evidence even you have to accept.

        Evidence of efficacy, true, we have limited amounts and you can indeed keep pushing THAT angle if you like. That’s what the more intelligent debunkers do, who don’t try to add more weight with lies to their position. They use facts, and the fact is, there is no evidence of harm, chemistry that shows the metabolism and excretion of chlorine dioxide, unharmed users, before and after sonographic scans… the list of “lack of evidence” as you call it, is rather extensive so the fact you have is your opinion which is it will hurt you. So keep saying that. Quit inflating your opinion with your PhD and saying the chemistry is dangerous when you and I both know there is NO evidence for that.

        I’ve actually enjoyed the discussions on science forums about this because there is always at least one scientist who IS open, and we have a tennis match of chemistry about chlorine and chlorine dioxide and many other things and it is stimulating and I actually learn things. THIS, however, this is obviously a vested interest thing you have going on, because you don’t even address the chemistry, evidence and studies done, including the doctor who broke it down into baby terms for you how it works (yes, WORKS, whoodathunkit) against malaria… you don’t offer me anything, just “whatever”. So, you expose yourself again as either vested or ignorant.

        If you want to impress the many people who visit here with the idea that it is a mighty risk, then engage on an intelligent level. Debate without logical fallacy, especially Appeal to Emotion because that one is the most obvious debate mistake you keep making. Learn fallacy, and then come back without those crutches. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

        Debunkers use so many of them, you should probably be aware of all of them, knock yourself out: http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logicalfallacies.aspx

        http://www.logicalfallacies.info/

        Experiential evidence is acceptable science, I don’t understand why you say it isn’t. At the very least, it is a jumping off point, and I don’t know any scientist who outright rejects experiential results, especially of the MMS magnitude. http://www.lutz-sanfilippo.com/library/general/lsfmethods.html

        As for “just do a clinical study” many have been done. Jim has personally done many clinical studies using double blind, labs and doctors. To get the official stamp costs millions of dollars, hence why most studies are never done as it excludes anyone outside of big pharma, and hence why most studies are done on things that will result in a profitable discovery.

        As an example, aspartame has been studied many times but since the introduction of it into food (coincidentally, maybe) all studies show it is ok for human consumption. Previous to this time, the mid 80’s, studies showed a lot of evidence of harm. An independent researcher did her own tests with aspartame and the results have spurred a scientific frenzy. However, she, like most of us, cannot afford a gov accredited clinical trial so to someone like you, that invalidates her results. To many very sharp and unvested scientists, her results are more valid than ever. Here is her experiment: http://writerswithoutborders.net/vib/aspartame/

        From this point on, I will just be copying and pasting my posts to save time, should you repeat yourself to any new people the same stuff in hopes you’ll win them. You have argued all you have in your corner now you can do nothing but ignore it and repeat what has already been addressed, so I’ll do the same thing to you.

      29. @Rhedda:

        “medical thesis by an MD on the mechanism of MMS against Malaria”

        Sorry, must have missed that one. Can you give a link?

        BTW, I call MMS worthless because I haven’t seen any reliable evidence to contradict that, and there is every reason to think that it is worthless (ie it’s an industrial bleach). If it had any value for human health, someone would have done some clinical trials to prove it. If anyone does those clinical trials and they show benefits for MMS, then I’ll be quite happy to believe them. I’m really not close minded, I just don’t open my mind so much that my brains fall out.

        I don’t see what genetically modified foods have got to do with anything, but since you ask, I’m not the slightest bit concerned for their effect on human health, but I do have some concerns about their effect on the environment. I avoid buying them myself because of those concerns.

        @SagaciousMama:

        As I’ve said, the death in that report was due to a higher dose than most MMS users take. But why don’t you tell me what dose is safe? I don’t believe that you or anyone else actually knows that, because no-one has done systematic studies to find out. If MMS were a licensed drug, then the manufacturer would be legally required to keep a thorough database of any side effects to see what safety issues emerge in widespread use.

        Is anyone doing that for MMS? No. They’re not. So how do you know it’s safe? It may be perfectly safe at recommended doses for all I know, but then again it may not. It may have really harmful long-term effects. I simply don’t know, and neither do you, because no-one is collecting the data in a systematic way.

        And as for evidence of efficacy being weak, well that’s a bit of an understatement. You say clinical trials have been done. If so, why haven’t they been published in a reputable journal? You mention the cost: it’s true that doing large-scale clinical trials is expensive. But if the trials have already been done, as you claim, then it costs next to nothing to publish them. The fact they haven’t been published speaks volumes.

        Also, it’s not that expensive to do small-scale clinical trials, say on 20-50 patients. If MMS had the dramatic effects that its supporters claim it has, then you should easily be able to see something positive in a trial of that size.

        But those trials haven’t been done, which speaks volumes.

        @Everyone on the pro-MMS camp:

        You all seem to say I’m wrong to be skeptical and that I should take the users of MMS who claim benefits at their word. I’m not sure you would take that attitude yourself to anything that wasn’t your own personal favourite.

        Are you familiar with http://www.arbrecology.org/ ? As you might imagine, I regard this as another ridiculous scam. If you’re being honest, I bet you do too, don’t you? So why is that any different from me being skeptical of MMS? After all that, website also has testimonials from people who say that arbrecology has helped them. If you regard those testimonials as bunk, can you see why I regard testimonials about MMS in a similar manner?

      30. Somebody died from an overdose of MMS?
        Never heard about this one before.
        I remember somebody writing that he toke 50 drops by mistake instead of 15, and he had diareah because of it.
        But he survived those 50 drops, to tell us honestly that he made the mistake… 🙂

      31. The death I referred to wasn’t from anything coming out of a bottle labelled MMS, but it was from chlorine dioxide, which is what MMS becomes when you mix it as directed.

        Details in section 3.2.1.1 of the document here:
        http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp.asp?id=582&tid=108

      32. Rhedda

        Please Adam, you did not miss the MMS/Malaria link. I am not a fool. the links are highlighted in bright orange. Sagcious Mama sent them (two parts) in her reply to you and I re-sent it. just scroll up a little

        “BTW, I call MMS worthless because I haven’t seen any reliable evidence to contradict that,

        fine, then take your place among the scoffers of history like those who came up against the idea of a round earth. Was one time postulating that the Earth was in fact round a worthless hypothesis ??? Surely at that time there was no “reliable” evidence to the contrary, but does the lack of stamps decrees and declarations by authorities make something worthless? No. You could say that the worthiness has not been proven to many peoples satisfaction, which would not be so presumptuous

        and there is every reason to think that it is worthless (ie it’s an industrial bleach).”

        every reason? No, that’s YOUR SCRIPTED ONE REASON

        Now to your answer on Genetically Modified Food :

        “I’m not the slightest bit concerned for their effect on human health , but I do have some concerns about their effect on the environment….”

        Although asking you about GMOs may seem off topic, the intent of this question was to gauge your response. You gave an answer which is sadly part of your fatal flaw. And I am not saying this to be snide or an asshole or arrogant; you are a research specialist. You are most likely more educated than I (I have no college degrees and no room for arrogance)

        But I want to call specific attention to this reply of yours with the other respondents on this thread to show the evidence of this flawed position. I would like you to think about that answer again, not with your linear mind but with something else that you possess.

        Adam, You and I ARE the enviornment along with the trees, the birds, and the rivers

        Plus there are several other issues revolving around GMO food and the bolstering of such produce which speak to the reliability/trust of approvals by those authorized to protect our food and drugs

      33. Rhedda

        Please Adam, the links are highlighted in bright orange. Sagcious Mama sent them (two parts) in her reply to you and I re-sent it. just scroll up a little

        “BTW, I call MMS worthless because I haven’t seen any reliable evidence to contradict that,

        fine, then take your place among the scoffers of history like those who came up against the idea of a round earth. Was one time postulating that the Earth was in fact round a worthless hypothesis ??? Surely at that time there was no “reliable” evidence to the contrary, but does the lack of stamps decrees and declarations by authorities make something worthless? No. You could say that the worthiness has not been proven to many peoples satisfaction, which would not be so presumptuous

        and there is every reason to think that it is worthless (ie it’s an industrial bleach).”

        every reason? No, that’s YOUR SCRIPTED ONE REASON

        Now to your answer on Genetically Modified Food :

        “I’m not the slightest bit concerned for their effect on human health , but I do have some concerns about their effect on the environment….”

        Although asking you about GMOs may seem off topic, the intent of this question was to gauge your response. You gave an answer which is sadly part of your fatal flaw. And I am not saying this to be snide or an asshole or arrogant; you are a research specialist. You are most likely more educated than I (I have no college degrees and no room for arrogance)

        But I want to call specific attention to this reply of yours with the other respondents on this thread to show the evidence of this flawed position. I would like you to think about that answer again, not with your linear mind but with something else that you possess.

        Adam, You and I ARE the enviornment along with the trees, the birds, and the rivers

        Plus, as you may or may not know, there are several other issues revolving around GMO food and the bolstering of such produce which speak to the reliability/trust of approvals by those authorized to protect our food and drugs

      34. I did miss the malaria link. Why would I say I did if I didn’t?

        Anyway, thanks for pointing out which one it is. I have now read it.

        I note that it is pure speculation. It provides no data whatsoever about using MMS against malaria in humans. You can read a much more detailed takedown of that article <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/home/dr-hesselink-s-biredox-mmsmedicalresearch"here.

        Your flat earth analogy is flawed. Yes, plenty of people believe that the earth was flat. But you know what, the people who claimed it was round produced evidence to back up their claim. That’s the big difference, and is why they were believed in the end. No-one claiming MMS works has produced any evidence, unless you consider a bunch of unverifiable and biased anecdotes to be evidence. You want to convince people, then do some clinical trials.

        Now, since I answered your question about GMOs, perhaps you could answer my question about arbrecology.

        I assume you, like me, can see that is is clearly a scam, can’t you? So tell me, why do you think I should not view MMS in the same way? What’s the difference between arbrecology and MMS?

      35. Sorry, messed up that link.

        It should have been this.

  115. johnwoowoo

    Hello everyone!
    I signed up on a suggestion from

    We users of MMS can often see how it works, how powerful dissolving, anti-infectious and anti-inflammatory effects it has. For a recent example, my father in childhood suffered several inflammations of inner ear, which left him with permanent sediments in the space behind the ear-drum for all the remaining decades of his life. He felt pain from the hardened sediments inside his skull every time weather changed or if he pressed a finger on his ear.
    But recently, MMS started to dissolve the decades old sediments within, and by prolific drinking of MMS the detoxication begun that removed everything in a few weeks. The inflammatory sediments were removed completely and only thanks to further drinking of MMS (and lots of water drinking and diet!) they did not settle down in any other problematic area of my dad’s body, like the teeth and jaw bones.
    Although, the sediments sure tried that, but my dad’s paradentosis-ridden gangrenous gums and jaws were cleansed and healed by MMS earlier this year. Really, MMS works like a miracle, just a little slower 🙂

    There are many reasons for diseases and many of them do not have their origin in physical body. But cleanness of physical body is an important step to recovery and prevention, for which the MMS is excellent tool.
    I want MMS to have its rightful place in home medicine cabinets with proper written instructions. The cabinets will become somewhat more spacious by that addition.
    And I want it known, that perhaps millions of people in the world including me drink regularly this allegedly “poisonous” substance with substantial and sometimes permanent improvements in their health – or just vanishment of small ailments that trouble us, like acne. Oh, I wish I’d have MMS when I was in puberty.

    In a nutshell:
    I personally ingested a little MMS and went through a couple of days of detox symptoms. (in which process also some my long-term ailments vanished, much to my joy) Then I ingested a lot more MMS for much longer time, many months, and experienced NO NEGATIVE SYMPTOMS.

    To anyone with IQ above 60 it must be obvious, that MMS is not a toxin.
    If anyone says “well, body can adjust to poisons, right?” then I suggest patience and tolerance for our mentally challenged fellow citizens.

    And message to PharmAdam, in case he did not get it:
    Many of us are here all proverbially soaked with MMS inside out (according to Humble’s recommended dosage) and we’re doing great. Your fairy tales about toxic hazard still do not apply on us, and it is the scientists’ job to find out why.
    If scientists can go out to rainforest to local inhabitants to study their medicinal substances and herbs, why couldn’t they perform the same research among native people in of Europe or USA? It is the same as telling the herbalists in rainforest that the burden of proof is up to them to get their herbs approved by FDA.

    1. johnwoowoo

      *suggestion from Simunye

    2. Clint

      VERY Well said John !!

      .. I couldn’t have stated it better myself…

      It gets old when PharnAdam try’s to ‘Mind Screw’ people on this forum…. basically trying to sell his own brand of snake oil o the less informed.

      Clint

      1. Unless you have the necessary measuring instruments and accurate scales as well proper bottles it is not worth the money you might save by buying sodium chlorite in bulk. Try a bottle of MMS first to see if you can tolerate it.

    3. Hu johnwoowoo
      Welcome and nice to see you here ‘lonely woolf’. 🙂
      I absolutly admired your contribution in this anti-mms-website, but I rather not start there writng as well or I have to go on early pension to have enough tme to argue with so much ignorance, hate and comments of people who have no clue what they are talking about!
      I’m really amaased about quick people condem something they don’t even know, but when they hear something positive, they just dismiss it and do not bother correcting mistakes either. Like in the case of Sylvia Fink!
      AAMF were quick to spread the news about MMS being blamed for her death, but they case is being over and dismissed because there was no prove found that MMS was the culpid other than what the husband claimed. Those people sharing bad news do not bother sharing the results of the coroners report and the case outcome.
      I’m sure if MMS was responcible, the coroner would have found prove for that and the case would not have been dismissed, regardless wether MMS was prohibited in that country or not. It would be like saying knifes are not prohibited worldwide, hence if somebody kills with a knife, the court cannot change somebody with killing with a knife since knifes are not prohibited in this country. Likewise any judge would warn of the danger of knifes if handled in the wrong manner, and same applies if MMS is not used according to instructions. But our ‘anti-mms-expert’ concludes that this is a hidden message that MMS was responcible, but could not be proven. 😉
      But I was glad to come accross that other webside, because I found a few things I copied into other MMS sites, were users will be glad to see this.
      So this persons intentions to debunk MMS has backfired on him as well.
      😉

    4. Johnwoowoo
      I changed my mind! After the last comment on this other website I could not withstand the temptation to reply to it!

      This is the comment!

      “He (Jim Humble) actually claims to be a bishop from a line going directly to Christ.”

      I thought I have heard it all from anti-alternative-medicine-fanatics, but to put those words in to Jim Humbles mouth surely is the ‘cherry on the cake’ of all lies/misinformation/slander against Jim. I could not withstand this temptation. I had to reply to this bulls…! 🙂 😉

      1. Gilgamesh

        Simunye.
        Jim is a bishop from a line, that is going back before the time of Christ, and maybe directly or indirectly to Christ.

    5. Gilgamesh, you right, Jim is from ‘a line of kind people who know a miracle when they see one’…:-)
      Miracles used to be declared by the church, so it makes sense he calls himself a bishop 😉 since he discovered that MMS can cure things that some other medicine cannot cure, or only very difficultly, or that are hart to come by by the avarage person! 😉
      Back than, in days gone by, people where closer to nature and listen more to their elders and their intuition, because there were no news paper or internet to listen too… 😉

      1. Rhedda

        What is this?
        Theology?
        Please not in front of the children

        I don’t know (and don’t give to hoots if Jim Humble is from Abraham, Moses, David, King James or whoever; MMS IS NON-DENOMINATIONAL and it works.

        As long as Jim does not proselytize, he’s good in my book…. (“good book”, get it ? hehe )

      2. Jim became ordained in a religious order that traces its beginnings as claimed, but it wasn’t to proselytize a religious position. He thinks that freedom is easier to exercise behind the framework of a religion than as normal human beings. Of course, it is not necessary to create a religion in order to conceptualize, explain, justify or demonstrate the merits of MMS. Jim Humble has earned a place in history by bringing this novel use of sodium chlorite/chlorine dioxide to the public’s attention.

        I talked to a man yesterday who has been taking it for several weeks now for a prostate condition. He just had a follow-up PSA test, and found that the number had increased (from 32 to 54). However, the doctor noted that his blood looked much better than it did at his last checkup, and his liver was now functioning much better, so whatever he was doing, to continue, and not be concerned about the temporary increase. This man also had a cluster of moles — probably 20 or more — on his neck before he started. He said that he noticed that they were starting to shrink.

      3. Gilgamesh

        Hi Simunye.

        I dont think Jim, as bishop is connected to any church.The Merovingian Kings, Were connected to the the family of Mary Magdelene, and the church was opposing them, and made up a lot stories about Dagobert, King of Austrasia and Burgundy. These Kings were also healer Kings.
        Maybe Jim is Connected to Dagobert? LOL.
        Here is a song about Dabobert;

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqKjdSjNgRU

      4. @ Adam1

        I copy from the church of genesis:
        “To have the power of a church we need the legitimacy of the Church and that depends upon me. I was ordained in the lineage of Bishops traced all the way back to Christ. Actually, the apostles were Bishops, and they were given the power to create Churches and other Bishops by Christ. All Bishops have had the power to create new Churches if they wished and to write the Articles of Association and Articles of Faith, and Creed of the Church. My name has been placed in the lineage. We will be the first church really doing what Christ did his whole life, healing the sick and disabled.”

        I understand that this means that he is bishop simply by his ordination into ‘a church going back to the linage of Jesus’, not that his parents/grandparents ect are physiccaly from the linage from Jesus. I understand, that is what those people are implying and making a mockery about!
        The apostels were not all from the linage of Jesus either, only some of them!
        Correct me if I’m wrong please!
        Thanks Adam
        🙂

      5. max

        magnesium chloride? thats NOT sodium chlorite.
        Can it be made into sodium chlorite(mms)?

      6. Max,

        Magnesium chloride is evaporated ocean water. It has a very different chemical makeup than sodium chlorite.

    6. Redda, I also did not know that Jim calling himself a Bishop to protect MMS users from having MMS taken away from them, has anything to do with teology, hence my many 😉 😉 😉
      All that I know for sure is, that he is a child of God like everyone of us…and MMS is for all mankind, and that is all that matters! 😉

      1. Rhedda

        Hi Simunye
        I respect your statement
        and although I am not religious I adhere to the possibility of a profound, albeit undefined, power/creator. (just sayin that to maybe tone my statements were I’m coming from).

        It is my estimation that religion has no place in the open discussion about MMS. I don’t mean that to sound harsh. I imagine that plenty of people give glory to God for Jim and for MMS, and I say beautiful. and no judgement here over them discussing MMS within the context of religion within their fellowship

        Religion is personal, and though we are sharing personal experience here, I’m happy that this thread is not derived from a religion topic format. I know you or Gilgamesh weren’t attempting to take us there either, I’m just sayin =)

        On the other hand, these MMS threads do afford readers an opportunity to engage in critical thinking; to form our own peership and report anything related to MMS. Praise be to human faculty! =)

        It’s funny that thing I was reading about the Bishop thing, somehow I’m reminded of Mr. Tom Cruise (not to compare Jim’s religious beliefs to his) I guess to just to say that I don’t care that he holds to Scientology which I am not into, I still like his movies and believe him to be one of the finest in the acting profession. I keep that division in my head when I watching him in a picture or it would distract me. Yeah, I think he’s way out there. possibly even a complete loon in his belief system from my vantage point., but who cares? I’ve still got good seats and my popcorn in hand

        Although some may be turned off by the association of Jim to any religion, I’m glad Jim is moving strategically and also glad that MMS has no direct fundamental tie to religion

        and glad Jim is humble.

        and you are too.

        peace

        PS “I WANT THE TRUTH!!!…” 😉

      2. I quote…

        and glad Jim is humble.
        and you are too.

        You ‘read’ me righ Reddat. No offence taken.
        I think we all are taking a bit the micky out of that statement I found elsewere. 😉
        It just gives us an idea what stupid lies some people come up with about Jim, to make him and ultmatly US look like idiots!
        But who cares… lol
        Truth is stranger than fiction! 🙂

  116. Hi Adam1
    Trying to find something specific I came accross a website of somebody mobilizing others to debunk MMS and Jim Humble in any possible way. Naturally he did not only get the attention of like-mindet but also some MMS-users to state their case/excperience. One of them wrote something I copy here:

    “There is actually a lot of academic studies on how chlorine dioxide works. Here is a study in bio-chemical terms, how it works:
    http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXilus.htm
    Even greater detail, with every sentence supported by peer-reviewed articles in scientific journals can be found in this book.
    I don’t understand every amino-acid name there, it would need some real biologist to look at these formulas, models, chemistry and reasoning.
    And these are the authors websites, for further information.
    http://bioredox.mysite.com/
    http://mmsmedicalresearch.com/

    Since I’m only writing about experiences and have no clue about chemie and the likes, I wonder if those links are familiar to you and if this guy indeed found links to studies that are prove something worth while sharing. I do not wish to add the link here of this anti-MMS webside, since they would only interest Adam2 and his chummies to help stirring up some s…! 😉

    1. Hi Adam
      Why is my comment awaiting moderation?
      Are you moderating now all comments?

      Simunye Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
      December 23, 2010 at 11:37 am

      1. No, I’m not moderating the entries. The system flagged it and I’m not at my computer. I believe I approved it from my phone. 🙂

      2. Ha..ha…so the system doe not like words like ‘peer-reviewed’ anymore…I guess! 🙂

      3. I suspect the system flagged it because it had multiple web-links in it. Quite a sensible moderation technique, as spammers often use multiple web links. I’ve occasionally posted entries with multiple links in the past, and they have been held in a moderation queue as well, although Phaelosopher has always been pretty good about approving them promptly.

        I’m quite sure he would never do such a dastardly thing as blocking the term “peer-reviewed”, as the prompt posting of this comment will prove.

      4. Thanks Adam2 for your explaination. As I normally don’t post so many links, I did not experience this before.
        But my “ha..ha..” and the “smily” should have told you that I was joking, since PEER is a four-letter-word… 😉
        Anywhere, Merry Christmas to you to… 🙂

  117. Gary Wee

    Please update me on this breakthru..TQ

  118. Chrisstine

    I’m confused—any number of people can have the same first name—are the above contributions from someone named “Adam” comingfrom Adam Abraham or someone else. In this case a distinction should be made for us people who are new to this site, as the comments seem to represent opposing viewpoints, I myself learned of MMS from a total stranger, another shopper in health food store. I ordered the book, “Breakthrough” and was very impressed. I myself had so many things wrong with my body I didn’t know where to start, even with having studied health and nutrition for 35 years. Do or die, that’s what it came down to. I took MMS for 9 weeks in the spring. I started slow and easy, 1 drop twice a day for a week, then 2 drops twice a day the next week, etc, all the way up to 7 drops, which caused me to vomit, so I had to back off. I have been home for 6 months now, recuperatingfrom things, learning more as I go aong. I did not s becaue I had no knowlege of, Lyme didease, until my adult daughter broke it to us that she was officially diagnosed. So my search for info was originally on behalf of my daughter, and then I got even sicker faster, than she. I am now under the care of more doctors in the last six months than I have seen in 25 years. I have not mentioned to any of them that I have used MMS because I wanted to see what they had to offer since I had previously had several disenchanting experiences with the medical profession. (In their defense, I will say that this time around I seem to be blessed with a dedicated and caring group of professionals.) After the forst of the year, I am going to put myself ona second round of MMS, to try to improve another notch. I will tell nobody, because it’s my body, and I don’t want anybody talking me out of it. I didn’t need a doctor’s permission to get sick, and I don’t need a doctor’s permission to get well.I can’t tell the “good guysfrom the “bad guys” just by looking anymore. ANYWAY—I was never tested for Lyme before the protocol, even though I had most of the symptoms. I have recently been tested for it, and it came out negative. Does anybody know if evidence of ever having had it is also wiped out? As far as all the comments from the Nayayers that I have been reading, let me ask you a serious question: what convinced you to first try alcoholic beverages, and CONTINUE to use them after vomiting. No claim was EVER made that alcohol was good for your body.And sometimes gives diarrhea, too. The users brag about how wasted they were. I rest my case. As far as that goes, what about cigarettes and street drugs? Let’s all get well together. We’re all in this together, whether we like it or not. We either survive together, or become extinct together, You are either part of the problem, or part of the SOLUTION—Miracle Mineral Solution.

    1. Chrisstine, there are indead 2 Adams, In fact, if I remember right there was another Adam, but he does not seem to be here regularely. Adam the Phealosopher I call Adam1, because he is the admin of this site. Adam2 is the one who belongs to the anti-alternative-medicine-fanatics, who call MMS a scam simply because that is their opinion. Adam2 never used it, is not a doctor and he does not acept ouer experiences and the fact that we are still alive and healthy than ever before, as prove that MMS works and is less dangerous than many drugs prescribed by doctors.
      Sideeffects are few and can mostly be prvented by sticking to the protocoll. No death has been proven and we do not hear any more of the one case over a yaer ago, where a husband claimed his wife was killed by 2 drops of MMS. If this was true, I’m sure the prove would be not only available but made public to prevent futher damage.
      🙂

      1. No, Monika, the reason why you’ve not heard any more of the death that occurred after someone took MMS is that the inquest has not been completed. It is quite normal for legal documents about deaths to remain confidential while legal proceedings are continuing, and also quite normal, sadly, for these things to take a while.

        Once the inquest completes, then I’m sure more information will become available.

        In the meantime, if you want to believe that MMS is safe, you just carry on drinking it. But forgive me if I don’t.

      2. No Adam… the inquest has been completed. The results, which found NO link between MMS and Sylvie’s death, were termed, inconclusive, and the case, from the coroner’s perspective, was closed. Given ALL the attempts to skew, misinform, and dissuade the public from using MMS on the basis of FALSE information by erstwhile respectable scientific and government agencies, anything less than an absolute “smoking gun” cause and effect relationship between the death and MMS would be a setback, if the truth would be known.

        So the truth has continued to go unreported… except in places like this.

        This is NOT about evangelizing MMS. It’s simply about being truthful about what causes, and what can cure diseases. MMS is not a cure, but can facilitate and assist the one that does cure… which is the body complex itself.

      3. Ah, I must have missed that. Do you have a link?

      4. The most recent information I can find is here, which doesn’t report the results of an inquest. It mainly states that there will be no criminal prosecutions, because MMS was not illegal at the time it was supplied. That is not at all the same thing as saying that MMS was not responsible for the death.

        The article also notes that “it is quite clear that Ms Fink Solis very rapidly became extremely ill shortly after drinking MMS”.

        But hey, if you want to believe that’s a coincidence, that’s up to you.

      5. You are your own evidence that you believe what you want to believe, which in your case, is that MMS may have caused the death. Even in the medical world that you profess some amount of allegiance to, the concept of pre-existing conditions plays a significant role in medical treatment. Although Mr. Nash floated the idea of prophylactic intake of MMS for potential malaria (which no one has ever suggested), Sylvie would not have taken MMS without some otherwise unreported reason. Yet, you refuse to acknowledge such factors.

      6. Adam, thanks for your concern, but being a user for over 1 year, still alive and healthier than ever, you will need to do much more convincing to change my mind about MMS!
        I KNOW it works! I still say, if there was prove that MMS killed Sylvia, the case would NOT HAVE BEEN CONCLUDET, regardless if MMS was not prohibited by law in this country, because the safty of others would be more important than this law!
        🙂

    2. Lynlondon

      Chrisstine…I am soo pleased I have found out about MMS – many still do not know about it. I feel it is a powerful tool to have in one’s arsenal against illness and general lack of energy.
      First let me say that I am sorry to read that you have been so unwell for so long and that your daughter has Lyme disease. I know how down it can make one feel to be ill for a long time and to search and search for a remedy. I too have been ill for a long time (30 yrs). I thoroughly informed myself about MMS ingestion and then I decided to buy a bottle and take it according to the old protocol. I did not actually feel nauseaous, which is an indication that one should cut back on the drops of MMS, I had stomach discomfit .. a sort of churned feeling but no nausea. I upped my dose too soon and had two days of vomiting and diarrhoea. I stopped taking the MMS for a while, but it occurred to me that 16 of the symptoms that I had been plagued with had lessoned or disappeared : ))
      After a few months, I then went back onto the new protocol of 3 activated of MMS per hour for 3 weeks in the summer months (2010). I felt fine on this dosage, possibly a bit of sluggishness at times as the toxins were surfacing and being eliminated. The MMS killed off a really tenacious bug called Blastocystis hominis this second time of ingesting the MMS and there was another symptom that was eliminated, but I can’t remember what it was now. There has been so much overall relief from the MMS!!
      I felt safe taking MMS – It really seemed like that it was zapping the ‘nasties’ and then just ending up as a few grains of salt in the body as the reseach info states. I trusted that the MMS was doing its job and I left it to do same and I benefitted a great deal in all! I would like to continue having periods of taking MMS together with the Iodine which Jim Humble ( the man who highlighted MMS and its power to free the body from toxic overload so that the body can heal itself.) advised that I take in order to heal my thyroid problem.
      Chrisstine – It is a good idea to write to Jim Humble himself re MMS. He is really good at answering queries, I find!
      Please do not be phased by the ‘Adam’ who posts comments here warning of the dangers of MMS. We have concluded that he has no real experience with MMS ingestion and is somehow linked with the drug industry and really does not want people taking MMS. So he badmouths same!.
      The FDA have also been waging a war on MMS and are determined it seems to clamp down on MMS because ‘they’ have hear tell how efficient it is in relieving the body of countless dire and fatal illnesses. This being detrimental threat to the vast amounts of revenue reaped from Drug usage by the big pharmaceutical companies.
      The MMS does not heal the body, but allows the body to heal itself by relieving it of all the toxins standing in its way to a recovery.
      Honest to God – I felt as safe as anything on the MMS and am soo thrilled to have heard about it and to have a stash of it in my cupboard ( well only four bottles). Some people have been taking MMS for years and feel strong and healthy as a result of doing so .. there are many testimonials to support this fact.
      I believe that you will have to be persistent to get results, always erring on the side of caution to allow the body to throw off the toxins without making you ill while it is doing so. But you really, I believe, have to keep on taking the MMS and then please write and tell us when you are starting to feel better as we are sure will be the case … Happy, healthy days ahead Chrisstine with the help of MMS supplement : )) Wishing all the best of health in the coming year!! : )) Lynlondon

  119. Gilgamesh

    Adam.
    The long term side effects of MMS, is that people will live longer.

    1. That’s your opinion. As you said below, you have no evidence to back it up.

  120. Gilgamesh

    Adam
    I dont believe, that you really believe, that MMS will have a long term side effect. I think you are deliberately fear mongering.

    1. Gilgamesh, I honestly don’t know whether MMS has long-term side effects or not. No-one has ever systematically studied the long-term health effects in humans.

      Maybe it has no cumulative effects whatsoever, maybe it has some very nasty effects. I simply don’t know, because the research has not been done.

      So, question is, do you feel lucky?

  121. Lynlondon

    Adam says he can not tear himself away from our delightful company Simunye … Guess it is fun to have a villain in the game as well – Who knows he may become converted!! : ))

      1. Lynlondon

        Oh Adam .. you have a sense of humour .. there is still hope for you : ))

    1. I do believe in miracles Lynlondon, God knows… 🙂

  122. Gilgamesh

    If anyone detoxing too fast,or over dose with MMS, they can stop the action, just drink one glass of orange juice, or something with vitamin C.

    And the long term effect of MMS is that people will live longer.

    1. So simple to tread some side-effects of MMS, but not with other medications!
      “And the long term effect of MMS is that people will live longer”
      Now that would be aot be so good against overpopulation…would it?
      😉

      1. Gilgamesh

        Simunye.
        Your comment about over population reminds me of a sad story in the Bible, Adam and Eve lived a very long life, they had 60 children, and when Adam was very old, and was about to die in pain, Eve went to the gates of the Elohim, the Gods, and she was asking them for some pain medication. She was not asking to prolong his life,only to kill the pain. But the Gods refused her, she did not get any pain killer medication and Adam died seven days later. But we dont know when Eve died.

    2. “And the long term effect of MMS is that people will live longer.”

      And your evidence for that would be…?

      1. Gilgamesh

        Adam.
        If you are really honest with your self, you know that you will be ready to discredit MMS, and say that it is only a placebo effect no matter what the evidence. And everybody who is reading here knows this.
        But Rhedda wrote a few days ago, that he is using MMS for 3 years, he is over 45 years old, and the doctor told him, he is in better condition, than an 18 year old. I m sure you read it also.
        I use MMS, not all the time , just on and off, but my wife tell everybody , that I m strong as a horse. I dont need any evidence, I have my own evidence. I m not trying to convince you, or prove anything to you, I m just stating my opinion and you can take it or leave it.
        And my opinion is that MMS is also give you strenght, endurance, and longevity.

      2. So, no evidence whatsoever then, just your opinion.

        I genuinely hope you stay healthy, but if you are regularly using MMS, I would strongly recommend you go and get yourself checked out. You simply don’t know what long-term damage you could be doing to yourself. Not all things that are harmful to health are immediately obvious. Sometimes they don’t become obvious until it’s too late.

        Trust me, I will take no pleasure in saying “I told you so” if you post back here in a few years time to report that you have developed oesophageal cancer or something like that.

        And there’s no miracle about being healthy when you’re a bit older. I’m also in my mid 40s and healthier than I was in my 20s. But that, I expect, is simply because I take a lot more exercise now than I did when I was younger.

    3. My comment about overpopulation was sarcastic, since this would be also a hidden agenda to stop the overpopulation.
      Maybe some people think MMS is spoiling their plan… 😉

      1. Gilgamesh

        Simunye.
        The first 5 books in the Bible are from the Sumerian writings,
        And Zecharia Sitchin translated the Sumerian tablets and wrote the Earth chronicles, over 10 books,
        So you may not find the full story of Adam and Eve, as I wrote to you, in the Bible, but in the Zecharia Sitchin books.
        I know your comment about overpopulation was meant to point out what maybe their agenda,and MMS is spoiling their plan.
        And you maybe are right, On CNN, Jessie Ventura talked about that on conspiracy theory.

    4. Coffee will also do… 🙂

  123. Hi everybody
    Here something regarding MMS that is on the light side…
    I ordered the other day Archangel Raphael Healing Cards from Amazon and they finally arrived.
    I just now tried them out, concentrating on the question regarding MMS, when one card fell to the floor. I learned that cards falling to the floor when shoveling, have a meaning and I picked it up.

    The cards reads:
    Dear Jesus and Archangel Raphael, thank you for boosting my faith so that O may trust in MIRACLES…
    I rest my case… 🙂

    1. Well, it became even better! I checked out all cards. There is another card with the word Miracle on, but it says: expect a Miracle. I past that situation last year already when my asthma went after 2 days MMS.
      Then I checked out the booklet for specific meaning, and here I found the following:
      AVOID NAYSAYERS, AND ONLY LISTEN TO POSITIVE VOICES.
      dID i MENTION THAT i DON’T BELIEVE IN CO-INCIDENCES? 😉

  124. Lynlondon

    I meant to ask – are you Okay now Meher … I obviously have not been taking my MMS as in my state of ‘brain fog’ I asked this question of Adam – you know the ‘indoctrinated-by-drug-co’s-Adam’ … So I hope your lungs are fine now Meher .. cos we Do care about one another on this site : ))

  125. Gilgamesh

    Hi Rhedda.
    I think you are right. I was thinking about the same thing, knowingly, and deliberately distorting the truth, and mislead people is criminal.I used to know people, who did time in prisons, and they talk exactly like; you people are all suckers, you been all played and so on. It is a criminal’s kind of talk, prison talk. We dont know, but he could be sitting in a prison some place and somebody payed him a few bucks to terrorize people on the internet with misinformation. I think this maybe a reasonable conclusion, but if it is not, it is still just the same.

  126. Lynlondon

    A sceptic sent Jim Humble the following question :- “What I would like to know is why you have not dispelled my so-called “theory” on the damage that the chlorine dioxide does. Instead you choose to avoid the truth and attempt to hide behind a detailed list of success stories. Argue science with science Sir and then let the cards fall where they may.
    JIM’S ANSWER:- “OK, SCIENCE WITH SCIENCE. CHLORINE DIOXIDE IS ClO2. IT IS A VERY EFFECTIVE OXIDIZER. IT HAS THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT 5 ELECTRONS FROM ANYTHING THAT IT KILLS (THAT MEANS IT OXIDIZES). IT DOES THIS IN A TWO STAGE OPERATION. FIRST IT ATTRACTS A SINGLE ELECTRON FROM THE SIDE OF A PATHOGEN. THAT ELECTRON COMES OVER AND CHANGES THE ELECTRON STRUCTURE SO THAT THE CHLORINE DIOXIDE IS CHANGED TO A CHLORITE WHICH IN TURN INSTANTLY ATTRACTS 4 MORE ELECTRONS FROM THE ITEM BEING DESTROYED BY OXIDATION. RED BLOOD CELLS CANNOT BE OXIDIZED AS THEY CARRY OXYGEN AND THEY CAN WITHSTAND OZONE THE MOST POWERFUL OXIDIZER THAT IS EVER USED IN THE BODY WHICH IS MUCH MORE POWERFUL THAN CHLORINE DIOXIDE.
    CHLORINE DIOXIDE IS ITSELF DESTROYED DURING ANY OXIDATION EXCHANGE, AND THAT IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE CHEMICAL ACTION THAT CHLORINE DIOXIDE IS CAPABLE OF. IT IS AN OXIDIZER AND NOTHING ELSE.
    OXYGEN IS A MUCH MORE POWERFUL OXIDIZER THAN CHLORINE DIOXIDE. JUST SO YOU KNOW, OXYGEN HAS AN OXIDATION POTENTIAL OF 1.3 VOLTS AND CHLORINE DIOXIDE HAS AN OXIDATION POTENTIAL OF .95 VOLTS, MUCH LOWER THAN OXYGEN. THUS IT CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO OXIDIZE A RED BLOOD CELL. CHLORINE DIOXIDE IS NOT A CHELATION AGENT NOR IS IT A LEACHANT. A CHELATION AGENT WILL HAVE TO SURROUND THE CELL AND THEN ATTACH TO IT. IT DOESN’T HAVE THE CHEMISTRY TO BE A CHELATION AGENT. CHLORINE DIOXIDE CHANGES TO TABLE SALT (CHLORIDE) USUALLY IN LESS THAN AN HOUR AND NEVER MORE THAN TWO HOURS WHEN IN SMALL QUANTITIES SUCH AS USED IN THE BODY. TABLE SALT (CHLORIDE) CANNOT CARRY IRON OR RED BLOOD CELLS OUT OF THE BODY. THE CL PART OF THE CHLORINE DIOXIDE MOLECULE CHANGES TO THE CHLORIDE AND THAT I HAVE MENTIONED IS TABLE SALT. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CHLORINE DIOXIDE MOLECULE THAT CAN DO THE DAMAGE THAT YOU CLAIM.
    I KNOW THAT YOU WON’T UNDERSTAND THIS NOR WILL YOU BELIEVE IT, SO THE ONLY ANSWER IS FOR YOU TO TAKE THIS TO A VERY GOOD PROFESSOR IN A VERY GOOD UNIVERSITY AS MOST CHEMISTS HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN EVALUATING CHLORINE DIOXIDE AS IT IS A SPECIAL CHEMICAL, BUT THERE ARE GOOD PROFESSORS WHO DO UNDERSTAND IT, AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THIS IS A FACT. IT CANNOT OXIDIZE RED BLOOD CELLS OR LEACH IRON OUT OF THEM, AGAIN BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE THE OXIDATION POTENTIAL REQUIRED TO DAMAGE RED BLOOD CELLS. IT CAN INDEED REMOVE IRON FROM WATER, BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS REMOVING IT FROM THE BODY OR RED BLOOD CELLS. NOT EVEN CLOSE. IT DOESN’T REMOVE THE IRON FROM WATER BY TAKING HOLD OF THE IRON OR CHELATING IT AND GOING OUT OF THE CONTAINER OR BODY WITH IT. IT REMOVES THE IRON BY CHANGE IT BACK TO TINY CHUNKS WHICH THEN DROP TO THE BOTTOM OF THE CONTAINER OR BODY VESSELS AND IS THEN WASHED OUT AS TINY CHUNKS.
    CHLORINE DIOXIDE DOES NOT LEACH IRON OUT OF THE BODY, IT DROPS IRON OUT OF WATER, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LEACHING. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE CHEMISTRY. YOU NEED TO STUDY A BIT, OR ASK A CHEMISTRY PROFESSOR.
    I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING BUT YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING TERRIBLY WRONG TO BE CAUSING ALL THE DIARRHEA.

    Questioner: – “Nutrients are indeed for health– especially since MMS leeches ALL the iron out of the body and upsets the flora in the stomach as a result of the extreme diarrhea it causes people.”
    JIM’s ANSWER:- “YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT CHLORINE DIOXIDE LEACHES ALL THE IRON OUT OF THE BODY. THAT IS CRAZY TO SAY. IT CAN’T. IT’S IMPOSSIBLE.

    Questioner: – “If MMS can strip iron along with manganese out of water as well as perform a chelation on the human body – it certainly will strip the ferratin from haemaglobin once the red blood cells burst.”
    JIM HUMBLE: – “MMS CANNOT PREFORM CHELATION ON ANYTHING IT IS NOT A CHELATION AGENT. MMS, (CHLORINE DIOXIDE) IS AN OXIDIZING AGENT, AND IT HAS NEVER IN ANY OF THE LITERATURE OR ANY OF MY KNOWLEDGE EVERY CAUSED RED BLOOD CELLS TO BURST. FOR YOUR INFORMATION CHLORINE DIOXIDE WAS ISSUED PATENTS FOR THE SAVE PROCESSING OF BLOOD IN1982 AND 1990 AND 1992 AND 1995 TO REMOVE PATHOGENS AND OTHER MICROORGANISMS FROM THE BLOOD AND NUMEROUS TESTING WAS DONE AT THAT TIME WITH NO INDICATION OF DAMAGE TO ANY BLOOD OR ANY CELLS OR ANY BIOACTIVE PARTS OF THE BLOOD.”

    1. All of which is excellent evidence to support the theory that those who write in all caps are, in general, utterly barking. Jim Humble’s complete lack of understanding of basic biology would be funny if it weren’t actually responsible for poisoning people.

      1. Lynlondon

        Jim never writes in capital letters to me – It was just to distinguish the difference between the enquirers questions and his answers…. Is this not evident to you Adam. I have posted Jims other responses for eg on getting rid of mold and this info was not written in caps. I really dont know why you are posting on the forum as we have tried MMS, at least many of us have. It feels soo innocuous as one is ingesting same and has no deleterious (except for possible detox symptoms) effects only fabulous positvie ones!! That is why we are rooting for it!! Give it up Adam – you are trying to sway the converted : ))

      2. When you say “detox symptoms”, I take it you mean things like nausea, headaches, burning sensation in your throat, and diarrhoea? Those are not detox symptoms. Those are symptoms of chlorine dioxide poisoning.

        And those are just the ones you can see. The others, such as changes in your haemoglobin or thyroid function, are more subtle. You may not notice those until the damage becomes permanent.

        But hey, your health, your choice. Drink the stuff if you want to. Just don’t say you weren’t warned.

      3. Lynlondon

        Look Adam – I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and pre-suppose that you are well meaning. ‘I’ would realise, myself i.e, that one should live one’s own life and allow others to live theirs. We are all big boys and girls here, we have read the info, we have sampled the merchandise and we are really happy with the results … We are making informed choices for ourselves which is what everyone should be free to do .. Please do not grieve over us anymore. You must have lots of other ‘useful’ things you can do with your life. One day you might well have such a health scare and might find yourself reaching for MMS and then you will realise, once you have seen its gentle power for healing, that you were in fact wrong! I am not answering you anymore as you miscontrue what is being said!!

      4. I just checked out Adam (2)’s link to his name and came up with the following…
        http://dianthus.co.uk/
        We are a UK-based company offering an extensive range of high quality medical writing, statistical consultancy, and clinical data management services to the pharmaceutical industry and others working in the biomedical sector.
        I guess this says it all why he is so determent to contradict us all…
        🙂

      5. That’s right Monika, I’m just part of a great conspiracy that’s determined to stop people being healthy.

        You go on believing that if you want to.

      6. I love it how Adam always turns things around as it suits him.
        I suggested that his link tells us that he is working indeed for pharma, because it says so in this advert I copied.
        This explains why he has to support them, or lose a customer.
        🙂

      7. Clint

        People like Adam are only here to antagonize . . . I look at him as a test. … and frankly, many people passed with flying colors, for the simple reason that MMS can stand on it’s OWN 2 feet.

        He might as well argue that breathing the air outdoors is bad for you, his arguments are that lame… he back his statements up with nothing. I actually feel sorry for the guy.

        Karma can be a REAL Bitch Adam ! 😉

        Clint

      8. natasha curly

        Hello Mr.Adam. I’m Natasha from Ukraine. I have 2 questions for You.
        1. I have sensitive stomach. If i take MMS before the breakfast, i have “bad effects” like nausea, diarrhoea sometimes,or spasm of the stomach. If i take MMS after the eating(30 min-1 hour after) i feel very good,no problems.Now i take 14 drops(before 10 drops i feel bad,after 10-good). How to be? Will MMS work after my breakfast?
        2. It’s should be de-mineralized water? I take still water. Maybe MMS doesn’t work?

      9. Clint

        Natasha:

        The fact that you’re taking MMS on an empty stomach, and having bad effects to me means that you need a slight buffer (or small amount of food in your system) before taking MMS.

        My suggestion would be to get up early (say 6 or 7am) and have a small breakfast (a few mouthfuls of food at most)…. then, 2 hours later, have your 1st dose of MMS.

        I also might consider trying the hourly protocol of MMS (2 drops MMS, 10 drops Citric Acid) IN CAPSULES, every hour for 8 hours. That way, you’re taking less MMS at a time, but stretching it out for 8 hours. Another reason is that your system might be too sensitive for high doses of MMS.

        Also, be SURE to be drinking LOTS of water when doing this (at least 1cip water every 1/2 hour)

        Hope this helps,

        Clint

      10. Clint

        Sorry…. for the type O:

        I meant 1 cup water every 1/2 hour.

        Clint

      11. Mike Altmann

        Dear Mr. Adam

        I really would be grateful if you could give me some advice.
        I have been taking MMS every day now, for about a year, and one of its most remarkable effects has been to cure me entirely of headaches – which is marvelous!
        But now I’ve encountered a genuine problem that I’m hoping you might know how to deal with.
        After a five year break, my ulcerative colitis has come back.
        And now I don’t know whether to stop taking MMS or whether to increase my daily dosage back up to 15 drops twice a day for a week.
        What has particularly alarmed me is an article that states that modern hygienic practices have led to signifiant reductions in people’s exposure to helpful parasites, called helminths (or worms) that help prevent excessive inflammatory responses. In other words, it may even be that by taking MMS, and thus eliminating microorganisms that previously inhabited my gut, I may possibly have made my body more vulnerable to immune reactions.
        What I’m asking you, therefore, is whether, as a long-term sufferer from colitis, it was wise of me to de-worm my intestinal tract so enthusiastically.
        Or have I completely missed the point – and ought to step up my MMS intake so as to rid myself of colitis, now and for all time?
        Anything you say will be hugely appreciated.

      12. Dear Mike…

        There are several factors that can’t be spoken to in the information that you’ve given. Ulcerative colitis suggests a weakness in the stomach wall, and is one of the consequences of magnesium deficiency, which can be addressed via intake of magnesium chloride (which is a natural liquid), through the skin, or transdermally. There may be other factors that contributed to the U.C. condition, such as water treatment (chlorination, fluoridation, other chemicals etc.), electromagnetic field radiation, and while we are sometimes at a loss to see how it could apply, our own attitudes, particularly the ones that make us quick to anger or hold resentment. I don’t know you, and have no idea to what extent any of these factors apply, so no inference is being made here.

        If I were you I’d ask my body to advise me as to what it needs to mitigate this situation and repair your intestinal lining, and then figure out how to provide it. You can start by asking whether you should increase or decrease your MMS dosing. The protocol has changed from taking a shot once or twice daily, to taking smaller shots each hour over an 8 hour period. You might also consider putting a drop of MMS into a gallon of water, letting it sit over night before drinking. And you should consider a water structuring device that fits on your house, to provide balanced, energy rich water for bathing, showering, cooking, etc. It is easy to overlook these apparently innocuous factors, but your body has been telling you that something is out of kilter for some time, and even with the help that MMS brought, still is. Fix it, and you’ll have a great stomach and no headaches!

        Water Structuring Unit — http://shop.understanding-mms.com/houseunit.aspx
        Magnesium — http://shop.understanding-mms.com/ultrapuremagnesium32oz.aspx

        BTW — I’m going to be in London next week… (from 5/3 – 5/9) if you’d like to be interviewed about your MMS experience, please let me know.

        Best wishes,

        Adam…

      13. Mike Altmann

        Dear Mr. Adam

        It really is amazing and heartwarming that you replied so very quickly and comprehensively. It happens so rarely in one’s life that someone who really knows the answers is there and available precisely when you need them.
        I WISH I could come to meet up with you in London, but I inhabit a tiny coconut island in the South China Sea, and it’s not easy for me to travel thousands of miles, just like that.
        I will certainly take you up on the idea of ingesting some magnesium chloride, though I was a bit confused by your suggestion that I take it either through the skin, or trans-dermally (since, in my ignorance, I thought they were one and the same).
        I will also give due weight to some reflection on your other points, especially concerning the holding of resentments. It seems you may have GENUINELY shed some fascinating light on a very possible cause for my colitis.
        My colitis first appeared some twenty years ago, about 6 months after I had given up 40 years of smoking. “A classic case of colitis caused by nicotine deprivation,” said my doctor. The only cure was to resume smking. Ten years later I stopped smoking again, but that time armed myself with nicotine patches and the like, and so the colitis didn’t recur.
        This latest episode has noot been smoking-related in any way. The symptoms just came back, out of the blue.
        I’m wondering whether they could be related to MMS.
        You didn’t refer to it, but you are obviously familiar with what is known as “helminthic therapy” which is targeted at several (non-viral) auto-immune diseases, including celiac disease, Crohn’s disease, multiple sclerosis, asthma and my own complaint, ulcerative colitis – since it has been found that it is the absence of certain parasites in the human system (and particularly the absence of helminths, or gut worms), which either causes the outbreak or prevents the healing of those diseases.
        What I was asking you was whether it could conceivably be the case that MMS, of which I am a fanatical and joyous supporter and promoter, is in fact the agent that has systematically drummed those parasites out of my intestines.
        And what I am querying is whether, in your considered opinion, the deliberate ingestion of those worms’ eggs, as prescribed by Dr. Joel Weinstock at the University of Iowa and by people at the University of Nottinghan in England (and possibly also elsewhere), might help replenish me with the parasites to fight my colitis, even as I continue wholeheartedly with MMS for other objectives.
        My body, you see, is not telling me anything in that regard. I cannot obey your recommended advice and rely on my own gut feeling. Accordingly, I applied to you.
        And I’m grateful to you, no mater what.
        This is because I am the type of person who cannot be cured of anything unless he comprehends the logic of the proposed cure.
        Cordially
        Mike

      14. Lynn

        I have been taking MMS now for over a year. I am living proof that MMS only does good things. I have not been sick since i have been taking MMS. I have never felt better and I have had a ovarian cyst that has been a problem all my life disappear after being told there was no cure for it. My eyesite improved three points and I had to have my perscription lowered, (I’m 51). My skin, nails and hair look so much better and my teeth never looked or felt better. I am now on maintenance and don’t take MMS everyday. I have my husband and daughter on it too. I think it is a miracle for me. I know how people love going to the doctor and getting their perscriptions, it’s comforting to them, but I feel like I have been set free. I won’t be without it and try to get as many people to look into it as possible, (not much luck since it is not main stream and no company is going to back something you can’t make money on.) How great to know that my health is secured, (on a ordinary health requirement level), with just $20 per year or less. Wow. I am sad when I realize how sick people are and how easy the cure, but I no longer dwell on it. I just thank God that I stumbled on this for myself and my family. Thanks for the good work you do in getting the word out. It is a slow trudge. (Can you imagine the drop in doctor visits and emergency room visits if this catches on, WOW.)
        Lynn

      15. Lori

        Hi Simunye

        Funny how Adam Pharm gave the same response when I pointed out his potential conflict of interest on another thread. He accuses us of being “conspiracy theorists” as an attempt to stop the debate. As if conspiracy is necessary when there’s already complete concord of interest. It’s like saying farmers “conspire” against weeds, when really all farmers know they have to beat them back if they want their crops to grow. We’re weeds to Greed-Pharm!

      16. Clint, it’s ironic you should say I back up my statements with nothing. I have frequently backed up my statements with links to reliable data, such as this one:

        http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp.asp?id=582&tid=108

        But as I say, if you want to ignore it and assume it’s all just part of some Great Conspiracy, then go ahead.

        It’s the folks selling MMS who don’t back up what they say with any data.

      17. Clint

        Adam,

        Dearest Adam…. I am sure you are an intelligent person… but really, I can’t even address you “claims” seriously. You call MMS a “bleach”… and with that statement, sorry, but you are dead in the water, and have proclaimed yourself ignorant. Sorry, but you have no clue what MMS is.

        Also, “nausea, headaches, burning sensation in your throat, and diarrhoea(sp)” ARE really detox symptoms. I’ve had them myself. The stuff works., and is “Real”.

        How much do they pay you for trying to debunk MMS.. seriously, am just curious.

        Clint

      18. Clint, if you truly believe that those symptoms are signs that MMS is doing you good (presumably because that nice Mr Humble says so, right?), then you go right ahead and keep taking it.

        I am absolutely gobsmacked by just how gullible some folks are.

      19. Clint

        Really Adam…. Get a Life !!

        … you’re speaking to deaf ears on this forum…

        This is my last response to you.

      20. Well, Clint, it’s nice to see that on your last response, at least you’ve said something on which we can agree. You are quite correct that I am speaking to deaf ears.

        If you acknowledge that MMS gives you “nausea, headaches, burning sensation in your throat, and diarrhoea” and yet you still believe that it’s good for you, I really don’t know what else I can say.

      21. Clint, I agree with you that nausea and diarrhea are symptoms of the detox, because if it was not, I would have not only have diarrhea ones, when I toke the first time 10 drops. I would have had it earlier and also longer if it MMS was poison!
        But Adam would not know about that, because he never tried it! As for not answering Adam any more: this reminds me on a little card my friend gave me ones to give to somebody who was going on my nerves.
        There was written on: I’m not deaf; I’m just ignoring you!
        😉

      22. Clint

        Well said Simunye ! 🙂

        … hence being ” dead in the water”… meaning that Adam has no clue even what detoxing and getting well means. He must think you get ‘instantly’ well after being sick for months or years.

        How can a person even respond to something like that… you can’t.

      23. Perhaps you could explain what “detoxing” means, then?

      24. sagacious mama

        Adam, did you even read that literature you linked? I read all through it, downloaded all the pdf’s, and here is the result:

        No chlorine dioxide- or chlorite-induced signs of altered renal function were seen

        No indications of adverse hepatic effects

        No reports were located in which endocrine effects could be associated with oral exposure to chlorine dioxide or chlorite in humans.

        No reports were located in which body weight effects could be associated with oral exposure to chlorine dioxide or chlorite in humans.

        No reports were located in which immunological or lymphoreticular effects could be associated with oral exposure to chlorine dioxide or chlorite in humans.
        Animal data are restricted to limited accounts of treatment-related altered thymus and spleen weights.
        .. observed reduced spleen weights in female, but not male, rats exposed to chlorine dioxide in the drinking water for 90 days at concentrations that resulted in estimated doses ranging from
        2 to 15 mg/kg/day, but the basis for this effect was not discussed.

        No reports were located in which neurological effects could be associated with oral exposure to chlorine dioxide or chlorite in humans or animals.

        No reports were located in which reproductive effects could be associated with oral exposure to chlorine dioxide or chlorite in humans.
        Slight, but significantly altered sperm morphology and motility were observed in male rats exposed to sodium chlorite in the drinking water for 66–76 days at concentrations that resulted
        in estimated chlorite doses of 9 and 37 mg/kg/day.
        No changes noted for chlorine dioxide.

        The changes reported in fetal and post natal rats are small and limited however null and void due to the weights used – av 13 mg/kg/day.

        No increases in cancer in humans or animals.

        No information about absorption for either inhalation, oral or dermal.

        Metabolism: quickly forms salt and chlorite.

        Excretion: salt and chlorite.

        Death: none in humans. Shi and Xie (1999) indicated that an acute oral LD50 value (a dose expected to result in death of 50% of
        the dosed animals) for stable chlorine dioxide was >10,000 mg/kg in mice.
        … In rats, acute oral LD50 values
        for sodium chlorite (NaClO2) ranged from 105 to 177 mg/kg

        Suicide attempt was 10 gm of sodium chlorite (NOT chlorine dioxide) and he FAILED to kill himself.

        It should be added, the affects, if you had read the literature yourself, are based on the actions of chlorite, as all studies show the affects attributable to chlorite, not chlorine dioxide – and ONLY in extreme high doses. All haemaglobin changes such as decreased osmotic fragility, were not seen in lower doses, in fact, no systemic changes in rats are seen at all in lower doses. In higher doses, the changes seen are limited and the conclusions drawn are written as such: “The study authors suggested that the decreased osmotic fragility may have been related to the disulfide bond between hemoglobin and the cell membrane as the result of oxidative stress.” Put simply, they’re guessing.

        Basically, there is little to no adverse reactions shown in any literature for humans in Cl2 ingestion. Inhalation carries risk and there is literature concerning this, however Jim Humble is very clear about this particular risk… he is already aware of all the chemistry regarding Cl2… there is no new information here, mate.

        Any studies concerning animals is done in high doses, and to highlight why that is irrelevant I will suggest that taking ibuprofen does minimal harm, but caution you against taking more than the suggested dosage. There is a point of dose where you will become very ill, and then a dose where you will die. It’s called a “median lethal dose” and everything has one, even sugar.

        Perhaps you’d like to look at the SAME website’s toxicological report on iodine: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/TP.asp?id=479&tid=85

        Iodine is a necessary nutrient that you will die without. Yet, there are deaths, many of them, due to ingestion of iodine – none for chlorine dioxide, many for something our salt is laced with without our consent. Systemic disease in all organs occurs after a certain mg/day ingestion of iodine. Why not focus on chemicals that ARE harmful, that have an interesting toxicological profile?

        Do you know the lethal dose for simple chemicals like table salt? (lethal dose is 3gm/kg) Caffeine? One of your precious drugs?

        Why did you point us to that literature? It proves the safety of chlorine dioxide, plus the efficacy of it against pathogens, and simply shows that high doses are detrimental. So have you come here to suggest we don’t overdose? Why that’s mighty kind of you, stranger.

        Pointing out to us that overdosing on something is harmful is so ludicrous the only rationale I can think of for doing such a thing is that you think we are morons. I assure you, sir, I ain’t no moron. I have a 150 IQ according to the Australian Army, and I am well educated, well versed, very aware and suffer no mental illness. If you think those of us on the side of MMS and against big pharma are all whacked out idiots who simply need your omnipotent arrogance to steer us back on track to continue to line the pockets of the already-obscenely-wealthy that pull your strings and pay your mortgage, I suggest you think again. With all due respect, the only sucker here, my friend, is you. When big pharma lets you down – and it will (3 to 5% of people survive chemo) – remember this discussion.

        Come back when you have something worth reading and stop wasting my time.

      25. Sagacious Mama, you are correct that in sufficiently small doses taken as a one-off, MMS is probably reasonably safe. As with all poisons, it’s the dose that’s important.

        However, I don’t think you read the report very carefully, particularly if you are claiming that no deaths in humans have been reported. Have another look at section 3.2.1.1.

        What is clear, however, that if taken in sufficiently high doses, chlorine dioxide can be expected to have a series of adverse effects.

        What constitutes a sufficiently high dose? Well, that’s difficult to say, because frequent exposure at the sort of doses MMS users take simply hasn’t been systematically studied in humans. Nor has the effect of long-term exposure to small doses, low enough to pose no significant risk in isolation, been studied. Do you know what the long-term effects are?

        Maybe it’s a bit like smoking. Smoking a single cigarette will not do you any harm. But if you take lots of them over a long period of time, it will do you considerable harm. I don’t know whether MMS is like that, but neither do you, because no-one has studied it.

        So, there is evidence that MMS can be harmful at sufficient doses. No-one really knows what those doses are in humans, particularly for long-term use, because it’s never been properly studied.

        So, in the immortal words of Clint Eastwood, the question is “do you feel lucky?”

      26. Dear sagacious mama well said…

        Thanks for reading the link ‘for me’ and for supplying me with a good laugh this morning…laughing is healthy!

        What good would the blocking do, if I still read their post anywhere.
        I mean, how desperate does that sound if I block somebody and in my blog I tell everybody I’m not reading his mail anymore, when I then still find 3 mail in one day of that same person in my spam-folder? Some people must really think that what they have to bitch about is so important to us that we read SPAM too…
        That sounds like STALKING to me already…

        Adam & Co are here and in all other MMS related posts to discourage us from writing our experiences, with others words, to shut us up.

        Try again… not with me! 🙂

      27. Just for a matter of interest:
        3.2.1.1 Death
        Information regarding death in humans exposed to atmospheres of chlorine dioxide is limited to a single
        case in which a bleach tank worker died after being exposed for an unspecified amount of time (Elkins
        1959). A chlorine dioxide vapor concentration of 19 ppm (52.4 mg/m3) was measured inside the tank.

        I remember also that we are being warneessive inhalation of the fumes caused by MMS by Jim Humble. So what is new….?

        As sagacious mama pointed out:
        Pointing out to us that overdosing on something is harmful is so ludicrous the only rationale I can think of for doing such a thing is that you think we are morons.
        Well think again… 🙂

      28. Sorry, some letter have gone missing:
        I remember also that we are being made aware that excessive inhalation of the fumes caused by MMS by Jim Humble. So what is new….?

    2. Maybe some people write in ALL CAPS simply because they have no other options to highlight something.
      Maybe some people should try to engage their brain before speaking up and making a fool from them-self by degrading others.
      But than, you (whoever the shoe fits) allowed to look like a fool if that is what you want… 🙂

      1. Rhedda

        Lynlondon, Simunye, Gilgamesh
        this Adam talks about “barking”
        Who’s barking? Barking to me always comes from the antagonist.

        Bob Marley wrote: “..it’s a foolish dog that barks at the flying bird…”

        Anyway let the MMS flight continue to soar.

      2. Rhedda
        You have my vote…
        MMS works, NO MATTER WHAT… 🙂

      3. Lynlondon

        WELL DONE SIMUNYE!!!!!! Thank you for higlighting for us the self serving influences at large here (pharmaceuticals) – meaning Adam and his secret mission. I am soo naive and trusting! What wonderful research – guess Adam won’t want to show his face : )) here again!!

      4. Lynlondon
        “…guess Adam won’t want to show his face : )) here again!!”
        This sounds like ‘wishful thinking’…hi…hi… 😉

      5. Now how could I possibly tear myself away from your wonderful company?

  127. Lynlondon

    Dear Rhedda – I wrote to that Gabriela Segura, MD asking her what she based her information on and commenting that if she had not used MMS herself then how could she refer to it as ‘ a trojan horse etc’. She did not even honour me with and answer. I wrote to Dr. Mark Sircus who champions Iodine and was pretty anti MMS. He DID write back saying:- “I will be writing more about MMS in the near future and am using it
    myself for transdermal application not oral and am mixing it with
    malic acid. I still stand by most of what I have written especially
    the part about not using iodine, which does many of the same things
    that MMS does, first because iodine is something the body actually
    needs. But that said I am opening up its use in my protocol for
    specific applications and thats what i will be writing about when I
    finish using it on myself.

    Dr. S” I chose not to believe Dr. Gabriela Segura’s article as she could not in my opinion justify her findings and that is why my letter to her was ignored… Could be wrong … just a hunch : ))

  128. Meher Baba Australia

    DO NOT INHALE MMS GAS!!!! I just had to post this warning. I made up a 15 drop activation in a glass bottle to drink at intervals. I had the impression only a little amount of water was needed to ‘fix’ the solution and make it stable, so I added about 150ml. Contrary to all reports massive amounts of gas were produced, which I inhaled with deep yogic breaths in the belief it would purify me deeply. Asphyxiation occured as my lungs totally filled up with
    fluid and I had to seek urgent medical attention. A week later I have not recovered. I believe the chlorine dioxide gas must have had some healing benefits, but
    it just simply doesn’t belong in the lungs!!! Do NOT inhale quantities of it!!!! I have not seen information about this posted anywhere, please make this clear to your fellow MMS users – my life was at risk from this accident.

    However, If anyone knows how many drops of activated MMS to use in an oil burner or vaporiser I would appreciate knowing. For cleansing a room particularly when many patients are infectious it is very valuable.

    Again it begs the question – how to prevent wastage through outgassin when using a small
    amount of water? For large amounts appear to be required in order to fix the solution properly…an oil burner or vaporiser
    only holds small amounts of water. Unless larger amounts with appropriate ratios were first made up, before dispensing into burner..

    Meher Baba, Woombye Australia Thankyou.

    1. Lori

      Thanks, Meher Baba! I’m so sorry you had to go through this experience! I too tried inhaling MMS but only after reading Jim Humble’s instructions which specifically warn against deep breathing it! So I just took a couple of short, shallow breaths and that was enough for me. His instructions are here: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-nosesinus.htm. He warns several times to exercise extreme caution when inhaling this potent gas.

      I hope you get better soon!

    2. Dear Meher,

      There is a way to inhale chlorine dioxide gas… very very very very lightly… sparingly. If that had been a question, you might have asked. But now you know.

      We’re glad you’re okay, and getting better.

      In the workshop that I videotaped, Jim explained how to do it, and then demonstrated it.

      15 drops is also way too much for any kind of personal use. You might have started with 3 or less. But this is where KNOWING comes from.

      For a room, it depends on the size… I’m not sure how to advise you there.

      The way to limit outgassing is to use a sealable container. Otherwise, it will lose its strength quickly.

      We honor you and are grateful for your sharing.

      Regards,

      Adam…

      1. Meher Baba

        Dear Phaelosopher and Lori
        Thankyou so much for your supportive, kind, thoughtful and practical responses to my message about inhaling gas. Very lovely to read.
        Phaelosopher I am impressed by your lucid, concise, logical and articulate argument against the recently posted smear campagain from the, ahem, lizard
        queen. You have some fine skills there. Wonderful to see so many fighting the good fight for this medicine so needed at this time on our planet.
        Love Meher Baba

    3. Lynlondon

      This was Jim’s reply to my question on MMS and mold removal :-
      “Lynette, activate the MMS. Actually use the chlorine dioxide gas. Put a pan in the room with about 50 drops in it and activate that with 50 drops and then get out of the room and keep the door closed for a couple of days and don’t go in the room. It’s dangerous. It can kill. Then open the windows and doors and you will have a very clean room with mold gone. If 50 drops was too much, let me know. If it wasn’t enough let me know for the next guy. Be sure not to get an breaths of it.

      Jim Humble”
      Meher it was a pleasure writing to Jim on your behalf – thank you so very much for sharing your traumatic experience of having to seek urgent medical attention after breathing in MMS gas – maybe Jim’s message to me (above) will help to emphsize your message for folk’s as well : )) Sincerely hope your lungs have recovered now!!

    4. Good grief, Meher, you used MMS, had to seek urgent medical attention when it poisoned you, and now you want to use it again?

      Do you not want to think this through a bit more?

      MMS is a scam. It will not do you any good. It will only harm you. Don’t believe the people who are making money out of selling it to you: they are just playing you for a sucker. Throw it away and be satisfied with having learnt something from this experience.

      1. There IS a scam happening, but it’s not MMS. You, dear Adam, are as much part of it as anyone. If you are sincere in your mission, then you are scamming yourself. Your admonitions aren’t credible to any intelligent individual, even if they choose not to use MMS. You, who should be assumed to have an informed opinion, but refuse to inform yourself in a balanced way. You who criticize and insult people who have done their own inquiry and are secure in their choice.

        “Trial and error” is part of any learning process, and are the facets that get the most attention. However, initiative and adjustment are just as important, if not more so. Initiative comes from one’s intent, and adjustments are made via resulting experiences. The process is honed through one’s commitment to realizing the best outcome. This is true science; behavioral and healing science. It can be done by anyone. No one here is unwilling to agree with you, IF your opinion were valid, confirmed through our own experience. You refuse to have your own, and therefore cannot speak with anything but negative, fearful innuendo.

        The Wright brothers didn’t fear crashing their flying machine and dying in the process. They took the risks, demonstrated their knowledge (without peer reviewed journals), and reaped the reward. In your slavish way of thinking, you would never have gone against the grain of conventional thinking.

      2. Dear Adam (1), you speak out of my heart. Well done!

      3. Lynlondon

        ADAM ….IT IS FAR FROM A SCAM – YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT BEEN VERY ILL AND THEN TRIED MMS AND HAD THE SHEER DELIGHT OF EXPERIENCING YOUR SYMPTOMS FALLING AWAY AS MANY OF US HAVE HAD. TOO MANY ASPIRINS CAN KILL THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT PEOPLE JUST STOP USING PAINKILLERS AFTER A TOOTH EXTRACTION OR SOMESUCH! DONT BE A BIG SCAREMONGER. TRY AND THEN TESTIFY!!!

    5. Meher has “tried and testified”. It ended up with a need for urgent medical attention to undo the damage that MMS did, which of course is entirely predictable, as we know that MMS is a poison. Forgive me if I’m not rushing to try the same thing myself.

      Jim Humble, and his minions such as Phaelosopher, are playing you for suckers. They are laughing all the way to the bank while you poison yourselves. If you want to do that, then it’s a free country, so knock yourself out (perhaps literally). But not all of us are daft enough to fall for such an obvious scam.

      1. Rhedda

        what a shame that you, adam, are a foolish skeptic ( as opposed to a wise skeptic: someone who will not jump to conclusions based solely on fear ) Nothing you have expressed here shows any spirit of understanding. you are just another agent provocateur who probably watches too much Jerry Springer and listens to the Gospel of Glen Beck. You have, by your attitude, created a spirit of petulance for yourself which disables you too see the spirit from which Mr. Humble and Mr. Abrahams operate. Can you not discern the expression of loving care that these two men have operated under? please go study real con artists (like your Beck, Falwell, Limbaugh, Hinn) who grab your heart with doomsday hysteria and crocodile tears

        but then again it is entirely possible that you indeed CAN see the truthfulness of MMS as a real positive and potentially life saving substance and as you have been so hired by the corporate adversary

        Nice try, but not really

      2. Rhedda, et. al:

        I believe we have determined that Adam has an agenda, and it isn’t about respecting the rights of people to choose what they believe is in their own benefit with or without approval of “the authorities.” I am inclined to let his “contributions” to this site remain, but disinclined to allow the insults and condescension to continue. An individual of his education might be assumed to be able to comport himself and his views with respect for opinions that differ. I even believe that he can. Since it has not been forthcoming, it must therefore be a conscious choice, which for me, is unacceptable.

        I believe it is better to state my position on this prior to simply disallowing any further contributions, or putting it on moderation. I welcome your thoughts.

        Best wishes all,

        Adam…

      3. I’m not stopping you wasting your money and poisoning yourself, Rhedda, if that’s what you want to do. I just suggest you open your eyes and realise when you are being played for a sucker.

        There is no evidence whatsoever (unless you consider Jim Humble’s unverified “stories” as evidence) that MMS has any benefits whatsoever, and plenty of evidence that it’s harmful.

        See, for example, http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp.asp?id=582&tid=108

        But hey, it’s your health. If you want to poison yourself, go right ahead. Just don’t say you weren’t warned when you end up in the emergency room.

      4. Adam (1)
        I think you deserve a medal for patients with Adam (2)!
        I think those AAMF should open their own blog where they can discuss their point of view till kingdom comes, without interupting those who are interested in exchange of experiences!
        Well done… 🙂

      5. Phaelosopher, I do indeed have an agenda. That agenda is to warn people that the stuff you are peddling is poisonous and has no benefits. It would upset me to see people get poisoned simply because they have been misinformed.

        Now if people are aware of the facts and choose to poison themselves anyway, that’s up to them. But I believe people should be aware of the facts first. Those facts are that MMS is poisonous (I have posted many links to this, see above for one of them), and there is no reliable evidence that MMS has any benefit. I have repeatedly asked you to provide evidence that MMS has benefits, and you have failed to do so, preferring instead to rely on unverifiable anecdotes.

        Sorry if you think that’s insulting.

      6. Rhedda

        Adam,

        Your warning is not acceptable, but it does make me smile a bit
        For I have BEEN a CON man, a player, a thief, a liar, an opportunist, a briber, a blackmailer and a perpetrator of fraud in my life…. I declare this not to boast; that life is definitely behind me but I state all of those negative qualifications to say that it takes one to know one.

        Mr. Abrahams and Mr. Humble are NOT one

        You on the other hand Adam, well I have stated my estimation of you

        As for me ending up in the hospital?

        Been on MMS for going on 3 years,
        had a physical the other day and got a comment that I had the body and health of an 18 year old – I am 45

        PLEASE ADAM, interrogate deeply your own fears if they be genuine

        that is my final word to you

        peace

  129. Gilgamesh

    Phaelosopher.
    I read the very long article about MMS, and in my opinion a lot of it is misleading.
    Most of the article is about oxidation, how the apple turn brown in air etc.
    But the article did not say anywhere, that MMS is a very weak oxidizer, oxygen is 2x stronger than MMS. But we are breathing tons of air and oxygen. I guess breading air is dangerous, it causes aging.
    And I m not sure about this, but I think MMS also create an alkaline environment, and the pathogen can not live in alkaline environment.
    The article did not say anything about this, they just put together information, not even related to MMS, or how MMS works.
    Very few people have problem with MMS, but they should start with only one drop.But some people can get very sick even if they eat just one peanut butter sandwich.

  130. Hi Rhedda
    Thanks for your link dear and I see your concern.
    Naturally I did not read everything and all attached links to the link you send.
    Like you, I’m a user and had only good results with MMS. But I do not use it religiously, like every day. I rather use it when I have a problem and now and than a maintenance dose.
    Lets look at some points of concern which I understand (I don’t understand everything they are talking about).
    To start with we have a “doctor” writing this articles, something which rises our eyebrows immediately, since Doctors should know what they are are talking about.
    On the other hand we have other “doctors” saying the opposite from what we read here. Neither of those doctors is known to us. Most likely all of them believe what they say is true and have our well-being at heart.
    Fact is some of them may be wrong or exaggerated, which is nothing unusual, since doctors are human, and humans make sometimes mistakes.
    Also some things work for one person but not as well for another.
    We all are aware of only one possible death, Sylvia Fink.
    Fact is “IF” she died from MMS then it would be criminal that the coroners report has not at least be partial released simply to prevent further deaths, which makes me think that something else killed her.
    Even a combination of MMS and some other medication I could believe. But MMS and only 2 drops does simply not make sense!
    What really makes me suspicious is the fact that this doctor refers to “A DEATH” being caused by MMS, when the coroners report is not released.
    The autopsy is out since the 28.1.2010 but has not been made public.
    Does that mean that the authorities who prevent it from being made public or the family who don’t make it public do not care about anybody else being killed by something they claim killed Sylvia?
    Surely if somebody close to me would be killed by something dangerous my top-priority would be to prevent others from being killed by the same substance, correct?
    Does that mean that THEY ALL DON’T CARE who else gets killed in the meantime or does it mean they did not find the prove and want to keep on digging. What does make more sense to you?
    In the meantime, I take my MMS when I need it as before. I won’t take it unnecessary when I’m well, and I’m sure that Jim has no problem with that, when people don’t take it like their daily bread, but when they need it as long as it helps people. that is all he wants, at least that is what I believe he wants. To me he is a hero, not a God as some sarcastically name him, neither a snake-oel salesman. Referring to him as such also makes this lady doctor sound suspicious to me.
    A doctor who knows what they are talking about to be true and has no hidden agenda does not need to result to name calling, direct or otherwise…
    Well, that is my opinion…
    🙂

  131. Adam (1)
    I have a college who has a bad leg. It is black and blue and sometimes open.
    I was just now on a German forum where somebody wrote about a guy having this problem for about 20 years, but MMS solved it in a few weeks.
    He is prepared to try MMS, but as a spray or bath.
    Can you tell me how what is the best procedure for him.
    He also is a celiac, but has it under control at the moment.
    Any idea how MMS affect celiac’s? 🙂

    1. He says that his condition is called Vericous Eczema. I hope I spelled that right! 🙂

    2. Simunye,

      Sounds as though he’d benefit by using MMS both inside and out. I believe it will help the celiac condition too. They call it an “autoimmune” condition, but they don’t look at the contributing environmental factors. I also have a feeling that gluten is what upsets the real culprit in celiac’s disease, which is possibly a parasite. Clearly, the condition indicates an intestinal imbalance. Chemical abatement (eliminating new chemical infusion), mineral supplementation, pathogen/parasite reduction, facilitated by consumption of (drinking and bathing in) good coherent water, will help restore normalcy.

      As for the MMS… he should consider Protocol 1000 (probably starting off with 1-drop/hour initially), and topical spray (10-drops activated MMS per ounce of water used), and foot baths (20 drops activated) or full baths (40 drops activated), with immersion for 20-30 minutes.

      1. Thanks Adam I will pass this on to him. He said he will try using it on his leg, but swallowing MMS might only be considered when he sees it works again with me. How knows, maybe this is why I had to be sick, so that I have something to cure again and by doing so, getting the attention of those who may need it!
        I know he is watching me now like a hog to see if my asthma will be gone again with the taking of MMS. I feel that I cough less already than yesterday. I toke 5 X 4drops hourly in capsules yesterday evening after my last meal and will proceed today. keep up the good work Adam.
        🙂

      2. Rhedda

        Greetings Adam Abraham,
        I have been on and off using mms for a while with no adverse affects. I have recently been concerned with a report from a MD source

        http://www.health-matrix.net/2010/08/10/mms-miracle-mineral-solution-or-trojan-horse-your-body-and-dna-decide/

        …and I was wondering about some of the information provided in the report..

        have you or could you address some of the concerns posed in this article?

        congratulations on all your good work and
        thank you for your time

      3. Hi Rhedda,

        I will be happy to respond. I am working on response to another another similar article that was posted recently, plus a response from Jim Humble. I will publish both soon.

        Thank you for writing.

        Regards,

        Adam…

      4. Lori

        Hi Rhedda

        Thanks for the link. Dr. Segura’s article is apparently scientific, but after a bit of on-line research I’m not so convinced. The magazine it was published in, Dot Connector, is the official magazine of an organization called SOTT, Signs of the Times, whose founder just happens to be Laura Knight-Jadczyk, a channeler who has identified Jim Humble as one of a race of reptilian beings who are trying to control the world. This revelation came after she was bumped from an important conference and he was put in her place. Laura KJ had an article in the same issue of Dot Connector, and is a regular contributor, which makes sense, since she founded SOTT. Dr. Segura also works for The Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind, a religious organization which promotes Laura KJ’s work (this information is on her own website, Health Matrix.)

        My conclusion is that I’d be more impressed by Dr. Segura’s scientific-sounding article, if it weren’t for the Laura KJ connection.

      5. Rhedda

        Thanks Adam.
        Lori, thanks for taking the time to look up doc Segura. I got the impression that she had some points worth addressing. I hear what you’re saying about her dubious affiliations but regardless when it comes to our investigation of the affects of MMS and our well being, any contrasting info, especially from a professed expert in the medical field, is worth the inquiry. it can only help to further understanding. I know that a lot of lay people who are seeking understanding of MMS could be scared away from it by reading such inflamatory and drastically anti-MMS information; the hope here is to address the concerns, point by point, boldly and openly.
        Knowledge is power and I’m sure that with pure motives and within the framework of a non-hostile discussion, we can put on our caps and come to the table for the sake of humanity

        peace

      6. Hi Rhedda,

        I don’t know anything about her affiliations. I just knew that it would take me some time to respond to a long article. I concur that she has points worth responding to. I am in fact, writing a response, or comments, line-by-line, to her article. It will be my next post. Heading out for dinner now, but I should be done tonight, and it’ll be online tomorrow.

        Thanks again.

  132. I posted the blow yesterday in another link, but just so you don’t miss it Adam (2), I like you opinion on this! is it OK to prescribe FDA approved drugs with as many side-effect as the one I was taking the last week?
    “I like to share now some experience with you that is more recently
    Last week our hotel closed down for the winter. The last 2 days was a bit busy, but the night-porter could not work. His brother died. So I did night-porter for those 2 nights.
    The rooms were heated, but the reception had only a fireplace going till about midnight. So I was in the cold most of the night. I realized a cold coming about 2 am, but my MMS, which had prevented me from getting a full-blown cold during the year, was @ home. By the morning I had a full-blown cold, sinuses and all.
    I went to see the doctor. Oh yes, did I mention that I’m NOT ANTI doctors, even if I’m pro MMS! 😉
    She gave me some antibiotics ect. But one week down the road and my antibiotics finished, I feel better, but my asthma, which gave me no problems over the last year, is back!
    Now don’t get me wrong, but I don’t blame the doctor. She can impossibly know what is all in each medication she hands out to her patients, let alone all the side-effect. I had a low sugar attack 3 days ago. The leaflet of the antibiotics says, it is a side-effect, together with at least 30 other side-effects, including headaces, inflamatory of the mouth, tongue, pancreass, bowelkidneys, including kidney failure, low blood-pressure, nightmares, delusions, confusion, hallucination, anxiety, deafness (reversable-thanks God for that), severe liver failure ect, to name but a few. Plus irregulae of rapid heartbeat (including lifetretening)…need I say more?
    So guess who is back on MMS now?”
    🙂

    1. susi

      hi adam,

      i´d like to do the simplified daily mms dosing in a bottle…

      i´m allergic to citric acid and would like to know if raw apple cider vinegar can also be used as an activator for mixing the total daily dose once a day…
      i intend to make up a 10 drop dose activated with 50 drops of acv, put this into a bottle and fill it up with water..
      i´m afraid that the solution wouldn´t be stable enough to last at least 12 hours..

      please advice if the above mentioned procedure would be ok for a 12hour-sipping.

      thanks and good health to all
      susi

      p.s. how many drops of mms are commonly used for foot soaks??
      thks

      1. Hi Susi,

        Raw, apple cider vinegar can also be used as an activator. However, attending the last workshop, Jim explained that citric acid is essentially changed during the activation, when combining with MMS to generate chlorine dioxide, meaning that you should have no allergic reaction to it.

        To get to the core of your question though, the factor that determines stability is whether the container is open or closed. If the container is open, like a glass or a bowl, then it will quickly lose its potency, as the chlorine dioxide will “offgas” into the air. This will not happen if you’re using a drinking bottle.

        I would suggest you review the 8-hour protocol. You would prepare once, at the beginning of the day, and then take 1/8th of that amount each hour, until gone. You should consider starting with perhaps a 1-drop/hour amount. That would mean activating 8-drops. A 2-drop/hour amount would mean activating 16 drops, etc.

        For foot soaks, you can activate 20 drops, add to the water, and relax for 20-30 minutes.

    2. Adam (2), I’m sure Susi was asking Adam (1), not you… 🙂
      I still wait for your opinion on the above post!
      Is it OK to prescribe dangerous FDA approved drugs?
      Avoiding the issue?
      😉

    3. Gilgamesh

      Simunye
      Dont worry About those side effects, they have FDA approved, and tested by the scientific method prescription drugs for those side effects, with more side effects.

      1. Ha…ha…Gilgamesh, so that is how it works…now I understand! Why did I not figure this out myself. Looks like I’m not suspicious enough.
        I find it amusing how I ask this question several times and how our experts avoid answering it.
        But when Adam (1) is ask a question, swoop, there is a answer from somebody who was not ask very fast!
        Na if that does not give away the real intentions of those so concerned citizens here. It is all obviously only about MMS, not about concern for mankind or whether it works or not. There are much more people sick or killed by FDA approved drugs than MMS, and EVERYBODY with some brain left to think for them self knows it!
        Knock, knock? Who’s there?
        “Silence is golden…”
        🙂

  133. Does anybody know if MMS helps with Celiac? 🙂

    1. No, Monika, nobody knows for sure, because no-one has ever done a clinical trial of MMS in celiac. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.

      It’s a pretty safe bet, however, that because of the known toxic effects of MMS and the complete lack of any plausible reason why it would help with celiac, that it would do more harm than good.

      1. What are the known toxic effects?

      2. There’s a brief summary here:

        http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npg/npgd0116.html

        To quote from that, symptoms of exposure to chlorine dioxide (which is what MMS turns into when it’s used as directed) include irritation eyes, nose, throat; cough, wheezing, bronchitis, pulmonary edema; chronic bronchitis

        If you want more detail, there’s a much more detailed report here:

        http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp.asp?id=582&tid=108

        That has a brief summary of toxic effects written for the layman, and then a much more detailed section, with references to peer reviewed literature. It includes details of someone who died after chlorine dioxide exposure.

        It’s pretty nasty stuff.

      3. Ooooh, you’re not THE Adam, but some fly in with no actual experience trying to debunk the stuff. Goodo.

        I’ve been using this stuff for a while on many different ailments, and I know Adam (Phaelosopher) has been to the third world with it basically performing miracles. You know what “nasty stuff” is? A painful disease! Don’t you think? A painful disease is NASTY STUFF, ok? Chlorine dioxide wipes out painful diseases – let’s get things into perspective. Plus, no one has died from chlorine dioxide used in medicinal amounts, and hundreds of thousands die from iatrogenic causes (that means caused by a doctor). Soooo, perspective mate, perspective!

        I was fooled by his name, Phaelosopher.

        Carry on folks.

    2. Thanks for your Opinion Adam… 🙂

  134. Gilgamesh

    Phaelosopher.

    I have a question, but I think this is not just for me, but most people would be interested.
    When we mix 20 drops of MMS with 20 drops of 50% citric acid for a MMS bath, and we sit for 15-20 minutes in this bath, would this MMS bath also clean, and purify the aura, and the astral body? Or would only clean and purify just the skin and the physical body?

    Thank you.

  135. Lynlondon

    MEHER BABA – I wrote to Jim Humble on your behalf and this is how he answered your queries – ignore the bit about the hernia : ))
    JIM HUMBLE :- “Does MMS last longer in a water bottle than in a human body? Well you see, there are many things in the human body that deteriorates chlorine dioxide. First and foremost is the pathogens, then the poisons, then there are various foods, which are often more than the pathogens, depending upon composition, and finally there are the mixtures created by the body. In the bottle with chlorine dioxide there is nothing significant but chlorine dioxide and sodium chlorite. There are numerous methods and patents of making MMS last in bottles or
    cans over weeks and longer, but it takes special ways of doing it. However the chlodrine dioxide in the bottles that we use is many times stronger than the chlodrine dioxide we use in the body, and the stronger the chlorine dioxide is the longer it lasts. The spray bottle we are talking about uses 40 drops in 4 ounces of water with nothing in the spray bottle to dilute or for it to oxidize. In the body you have 3 drops in an entire body of a thousand different items. In 10 minutes that 3 drops is probably diluted 100 thousand times The fact that it lasts up to an hour is amazing to me. So yes, it lasts all day or even all week, but leave 3 drops out on the counter open to the air for an hour and it’s gone. So it lasts both one hour or less and also all week long.

    No, unfortunately MMS often does not help the hernia. It kills the cause of the Hernia, but MMS does not heal. It kills. Occasionally the body does heal it, but getting the body to heal that opening where the intestines come through is usuall not an easy task.

    Citric acid. Many fruits have citric acid naturally. Lemon usually are 10% citric acid. When Citric acid is used in any MMS it is neutralized by the MMS. There is no citric left. The research I did shows that there are some people that are alergic to citric. So it is true with ice cream and anything thing else. I check on it. And read about the citric. I have switched acids a couple of times and with thousands using it, and no one has mentioned anything other than miner problems I don’t know of anything that is less poisonous than citric. Soon as I find another acid someone would find something wrong with it.

    With Love
    Jim Humble

  136. Lynlondon

    Adam – this was Meher Baba’s full entry :- “Hi Adam. The ‘first man’ 😉 I love your concise compilation of MMS data. There is so so much conflicting info on the Internet to wade through for a newcomer to MMS – you’ve made it much simpler. Including a concise explaination of the chemistry! Well done!
    I *am* confused though. I wish to supply someone MMS to treat her 15 year old daughter. Obviously minimisng the healing crisis is important, for a child. There is a conflict between the original protocol and the new protocol 1000, for someone using MMS for the first time. Obviously they don’t build up to 15 drops x 3 daily, like before. This isn’t made clear in your instructions for new MMS users. Now it should say, that they are building up to 3 drops per hour. In order to educate her, I must be able to clearly
    explain how the beginners dose should work. How does one build up in a safe way? Increase the frequency? (building up the hourly doses) or
    the dose? (From 1 drop, to two drops, to three…) How does one
    find a balance between these two factors (Frequency and Dose) for a newcomer. Hope this makes sense. Thanks for your patience in reading.
    Incidentally there is a discrepancy between your statement of a 12 hour ‘timed release’ of chlorine dioxide with each dose, and the statement that within minutes a 3mg dose of chlorine dioxide turns to table salt and water leaving nothing behind. I’m not doubting you nor the effiacy of MMS – but from a scientific perspective – as you are so clear so keen to make sure the facts and clear and understood – only one of these aforementioned statments can be valid!! Thanks again.”
    Regards, Lynlondon

    1. Thanks Lyn,

      The standard dose is now 3 drops/hr for 8 hours, but you don’t have to start there. A beginner’s dose can be 1 drop/her, or even less.

      For example, using the practice of preparing the day’s dosing at the beginning, instead of adding 24 drops of MMS (plus 24 drops of citric acid) to a bottle of water or juice, an equal portion of which to be consumed each hour (for a 3 drop/hr average), you could start with 8 drops (for a 1 drop/hour), 4 drops (for a 1/2 drop/hour), or even 2 drops (for 1/4 drop/hr) in the bottle. You can start a mild/gentle as you want.

      So instead of increasing drops each hour, simply decide on a drop amount for the day, and see how it works for her. If there was no visible reaction, you can consider increasing the amount the next day.

      This approach keeps a steadier level of chlorine dioxide in the system than the original approach, which resulted in fluctuations, not only in active chlorine dioxide, but the debris that results from oxidation. This makes it easier for the body to eliminate normally, than by torrent.

      I hope this helps.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

      What does the daughter have?

      1. Lynlondon

        Oh dear things have gotten mixed up, dear Adam. Meher Baba asked you a question and I copied the pertinent bit out and sent it to you saying I was interested in how long MMS remains in the system as well. I then received an email from you asking for the whole context of Meher Baba’s question and now you have written to me as if it was my posting. But I understand now that the 8 doses of 3 drops of MMS per hour lasts better in the body than bigger single doses. You will have to ask Meher who he is treating : )) warmly – Lynlondon

  137. Lynlondon

    Dear Adam – I am also interested in your reply to Meher Baba’s query : -“Incidentally there is a discrepancy between your statement of a 12 hour ‘timed release’ of chlorine dioxide with each dose, and the statement that within minutes a 3mg dose of chlorine dioxide turns to table salt and water leaving nothing behind. I’m not doubting you nor the effiacy of MMS – but from a scientific perspective – as you are so clear so keen to make sure the facts and clear and understood – only one of these aforementioned statments can be valid!! Thanks again”
    : )) Lynlondon

    1. Thank you Lyn — I will review the passage for greater clarity. Also, if you would be so kind, feel free to email me directly with the full context. I am presently responding without having read the passage again myself. I know that there are some “original” information that I preserved while adding new updates. So I will do that and make whatever changes that can bring better clarity. But if you see a specific passage beyond what you have mentioned here, please let me know.

      Thank you again.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

      1. Meher Baba Australia

        Dear Adam and Lyn thankyou for your comments. Adam I would be delighted to point out the discrepancies between original info and updated 2010 info, in your text, but I feel this particular forum-style posting doesn’t offer adequate space to do so. You are welcome to email your email address and I’ll highlight appropriate passages for you.

        The 15 year girl has impetigo which is very closely related to Golden Staphloccocus. It’s a case of treating it systemically rather than just the symptoms.

        Adam in the purposes of preventing a healing crisis which may potentially turn the girl off MMS forever – can I clarify. You are saying, for a newcomer to MMS, it’s okay to give
        MMS hourly – it’s just the DOSE (eg building up to 3 drops max) that should be monitored? Ie, not the frequency.

        I am surprised by the idea of preparing an entire days
        dose of MMS in a water bottle. I had previously read that, once the activated solution is ‘fixed’ by adding water, it
        should be drunk within one hour before it breaks down.

        The idea of MMS not deteriorating by being kept in activated form in a water bottle for 8 or more hours, also contradicts
        the statement that MMS breaks down in the body in a few minutes to nothing more than ‘table salt and water’ (a 3mg dose of chlorine dioxide, to precisely quote your text)
        Clarity on this would be wonderful 😉 either activated
        MMS has a longevity of a couple of minutes, or it can
        last an entire day…not both 🙂

        One thing I haven’t seen anyone comments upon: the extremely toxic nature of citric acid. It is a well known Excitotoxin – as is MSG for example. These products can cause permanent neurological damage. There is heaps of info available on this. I would only use citric acid as an activator if practicality absolutely demanded it – eg backpacking around India.

        Thanks for your time in reading and replying Adam
        http://www.avatarsabode.com.au

  138. Hi Adam. The ‘first man’ 😉 I love your concise compilation of MMS data. There is so so much conflicting info on the Internet to wade through for a newcomer to MMS – you’ve made it much simpler. Including a concise explaination of the chemistry! Well done!

    I *am* confused though. I wish to supply someone MMS to treat her 15 year old daughter. Obviously minimisng the healing crisis is important, for a child. There is a conflict between the original protocol and the new protocol 1000, for someone using MMS for the first time. Obviously they don’t build up to 15 drops x 3 daily, like before. This isn’t made clear in your instructions for new MMS users. Now it should say, that they are building up to 3 drops per hour. In order to educate her, I must be able to clearly
    explain how the beginners dose should work. How does one build up in a safe way? Increase the frequency? (building up the hourly doses) or
    the dose? (From 1 drop, to two drops, to three…) How does one
    find a balance between these two factors (Frequency and Dose) for a newcomer. Hope this makes sense. Thanks for your patience in reading.

    Incidentally there is a discrepancy between your statement of a 12 hour ‘timed release’ of chlorine dioxide with each dose, and the statement that within minutes a 3mg dose of chlorine dioxide turns to table salt and water leaving nothing behind. I’m not doubting you nor the effiacy of MMS – but from a scientific perspective – as you are so clear so keen to make sure the facts and clear and understood – only one of these aforementioned statments can be valid!! Thanks again.

  139. Richard

    I read that enemas have a good result. But what is the proper mix? An ename can be much more effective than oral intake. And is the intake by the hour? Or twice a day? Is there some more information about this?

  140. Earl Brown

    I am making inquiries as to mms. I am wondering if I can purchase some in Mexico as we spend 6 months there.

    Respectfully
    Earl Browm

  141. I really like your post, nice one, it’s a good read !

  142. Irene

    Hi, I am already on the cleansing program, three months total when I am done, called Colonix. I imagine taking both would be a bit much. Could you check out Colonix and tell me what you think, or do I need to stop it and go on this. Please try to be objective. Thank you Irene

  143. Robert Chercasen

    Where can I get this stuff in Topeka, Kansas?

    1. You can buy it online. Just do a search on “MMS” and you will find many suppliers.

  144. LynLondon

    Dear Adam – I left my email for someone who wanted a bottle of MMS and I offered one of my four bottles. Someone else also emailed me regarding the comment I made to you re having dificulty downloading this webpage..they said that they had given up visiting the site as it was too difficult to navigate. You made some changes and it is much easier to navigate now – thank you! However in response to Falquet Helene’s post on the 3rd Oct ’10 (Falquet Helene:- “Please hear me: build a light website which is really health oriented humans friendly. FDA sabotage proof and accessible. I lost so much with these stupid retarded corporates: please be accessible for any light computer poor people can only afford.” )I would like to add that your website is probably the best and most supportive one on the internet regarding MMS and its uses. We appreciate you and what you stand for and the support you give to Jim Humble – whom I think really needs friends in high places as they say. I have written to Jim on several occasions and have snippets that I could well post here on your site that would add to the overall richness of the knowledge shared here. So I feel if it is possible it would be really nice to have a website that can be an adjunct to the core good things that are still keeping MMS going and alive in order to help all those really ill people who have asked for an answer to their health challenges and are willing to listen and discover there is one in MMS or even the other good options you mention on your site – I have taken MMS and have had multiple benefits. In fact I found I was still feeling the cold and suffering from infections from exposure to same and Jim advised me to add in Iodine as he said that is what my body needed to combat this problem – So I have ordered same! Blessings to you Adam and thank you for taking a stand in the face of adversity (FDA etc) .. very warmly Lynlondon

  145. falquet helene

    How can I copy paste this info in a word document for myself. Could you add a little icône on the top of any of your texts so I and anybody looking for health can get the info. It is so frustrating to face my computer crashing over un accessible infos on top of all the medical destruction plus Food and Drug Associated sabotage of human health. Please hear me: build a light website which is really health oriented humans friendly. FDA sabotage proof and accessible. I lost so much with these stupid retarded corporates: please be accessible for any light computer poor people can only afford.

    1. Clint

      LOL !

      Ok….you are Fricken kidding me !!!! Right !??!?

      Please, don’t rag on Adam about improving a website that offers SO much info and is an excellent resource for people. He donates a LOT of time n energy to making this place happen.

      Please don’t blame Adam when it is YOUR own computer that is having the problems.

    2. LynLondon

      I understand the point you are making – others have said they are having trouble downloading this website. I am going to address my next words to Adam to see if he can meet with your request. He has made some changes though and I can now download this page really quickly as compared with before.

  146. Lynette

    Dear Adam, Thank you for your reply. Seeing as I left my email address -one other person emailed me to acknowledge the difficulty in downloading your most interesting and valuable web pages. For some reason it seemed easier to-day – so perhaps something has changed! Thank you if changes have been made to facilitate downloading! : ))) Lynette/London

    1. Lynette,

      Thank you for calling it to my attention. There were some adjustments available that didn’t know I could make in the user interface.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  147. aly hamada

    Hi Adam
    now i am using sodium hypochlorite 46/50 instead of sodium chlorite

    is their any bad effects?, any way it looks like much weaker than mms which i have used it last your ? i use it with the same mms protocol ?
    thank you
    Aly Hamada
    Malta EU

    1. Aly,

      I can’t speak to the behavior of this chemistry without studying it. I’d do some research into its behavior before using, just like so many have done with MMS. The obvious question is why not get regular MMS? It would save you a lot of time, energy, and guesswork that others have already done and confirmed.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  148. Lil

    Is there anyway or anyone who will spare a bottle of MMS. I’ll buy it at my own risk and I’m sure there is extra stock. Please email and let me know.

    Thanks much!

    1. Lynette

      ANSWER FOR LIL: lynetterodwell@gmail.com – I have a few bottles of MMS in my small stockpile…(It is the real proper MMS too) sure I can let you have one. Email me letting me know where you live, dearie, it would be a pleasure! Dont exactly know how this works and how to email you – so maybe its not the done thing, but I have nothing to hide and have forwarded my email address to you and everyone, I guess! MMS has helped me a great deal after 30 years of trying dozens of remedies and therapies! : ))) Lynette/London
      ps IT TAKES ME AGES TO DOWNLOAD THIS SITE – ADAM CANT YOU MAKE IT EASIER SOMEHOW. CAN YOU CHOP THE WHOLE THING UP INTO PAGES – LIKE ON OTHER SITES – SO I CAN JUST GO TO THE LAST PAGE!? AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO FINDS DIFFICULTY WITH REACHING THE ‘Leave a Reply’ section!?

      1. Hi Lynette,

        I am not the designer of this site or page, but I will see if there is a way to address your concern. Thank you for asking.

        Regards,

        Adam…

    2. Lori Perry

      Lil and Everybody: Keavy’s Corner sells it in the U.S, out of Florida. They had the foresight not to provide instructions for medical use, so they can still sell it. There are probably other companies that sell it too — it’s perfectly legal, at least for now. They’re at http://www.keavyscorner.com/

  149. Lynette

    ANYONE INTERESTED IN READING THE STEPS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN BY JIM HUMBLE AND HIS SUPPORTERS TO THWART THE EFFORTS OF THE FDA FROM REMOVING MMS FROM OUR SUPPLIERS AND NOW, IT SEEMS, POSSIBLY EVEN OUR HOMES/KITCHENS (making our own i.e.) CAN READ THE LATEST MMS NEW AT :- http://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=en&tab=wm#inbox/12ac32de3ebebb17
    THE TITLE IS: –
    “FDA data proves MMS kills diseases!!!”
    fighting for justice and the lives of thousands…… : )) Lynette/London

  150. Lynette/London

    My pleasure Eoin. I had a stool test done about a year ago and I was told I also had Blastocystis hominis showing up in same. I have been steadily feeling better taking the MMS and it is quite expensive to be re-tested, so I am hoping that I will just know when the Blastocystis hominis has been wiped out and I will feel much better. I read somewhere that Wild Oregano Oil had been effective in killing off this pathogen. Anyway, all the best and let us know if you zapped this reportedly tenacious pathogen with the MMS/MMS2!
    I find it takes my computer ages to get to the bottom of the page in order to post a comment. Maybe there would be more comments if others found this to be the case too and it could be rectified!
    Health to all the seekers of same on this site! : ))

  151. Lynette

    Dear Adam – I see that you advised Eoin from Ireland that he could mix up a days supply of MMS. My supplier told me the same. This seemed to contradict something that I had read in the ‘Breakthrough’ book – so I emailed Jim and he advised that it is best to mix up the MMS freshly each time (email can be forwarded for perusal). Seeing Eoin is having trouble eradicating his pathogen – it might be even more effective to activate a new lot of MMS with each dose. It is a bit of a nuisance. But it is worth it to get rid of some pathogen that is soo tenacious!
    I did the 3 week protocol recently. I used gel-caps to eliminate the smell.
    .. then I starting mixing up a days supply for each day til I received Jim’s email.
    When mixing MMS in a glass… It should have a cone shaped bottom so the MMS and activator mix properly. I place a saucer on the glass while the mix is activating to eliminate the smell filling my small kitchen. When the MMS has turned dark yellow and has activated after 20secs.. then I hastily add a cupful of water (bottled) and then I peg my nostrils closed with my fingers while I drink the MMS mix down (try not to gulp otherwise more burping ensues) – Yippee – No taste!
    If I feel a burp coming on I hold my nostrils closed in the same way so I don’t taste the burped-up MMS.
    A lot of people find taking MMS2 hard to keep up, it seems, because of the burping after swallowing the capsule. If I decide to take MMS2 I will drink plenty of water with it as suggested on some blogs and the burping is supposed to be pretty bad with MMS2 and if not enough water is consumed can be so unpleasant that some people mention that it made them stop taking the MMS2!
    BUT if one remembers to close the nostrils when a nauseating burp is coming up then .. the unpleasantness of the aftertaste should be averted altogether as when I take MMS drops!
    : ))) ps I am soo grateful for MMS it has eliminated about 16 of my symptoms or lessoned a few and the 2nd time I used it it eliminated at least a couple more!!! I feel safe using MMS!! It really seems to work miracles!! : ))) Lynette/London

    1. Eoin

      Thanks Adam and Lynette, Its Very helpful for me. Fingers crossed I get the results I need too!

  152. Josh

    I have already purchased MMS and the citric acid granules but notice MMS is no longer offered.
    Where can I purchase it now?

  153. Eoin

    Hi there,

    My name is Eoin from Ireland. I have been taking maybe 6 drops of regular MMS 3 times a day on and off for the last few months but my symptoms of Blastocystis hominis seem to be resisting this. I have tried taking more drops but I don`t feel so good afterwards. For maybe 2 weeks I did take 15 drops 3 times a day and it controlled the blastocystis hominis but didnt seem to improve it too much,

    I would like to ask you if you think I should try MMS2 instead? and what should my maximum dose be? And if you think regular MMS is the best for me then do you think I need to order that special new citric acid mixer also?

    Thanks so much for your time,

    Best Regards, Eoin

    1. Hi Eoin,

      Well, you might consider Jim’s updated protocol, which calls for 3 drops per hour, for 8 hour period each day. He calls it Protocol 1000. I will update my article soon to reflect this. You can prepare a protocol for an entire day by taking a sports bottle (16-24 oz.), and making markings on it to divide it into 8 equal doses. A 24 oz bottle would be divided into 8 segments of 3 oz doses each. A 16 oz bottle would have eight 2 oz doses.

      In either case, you would prepare 24 drops of MMS, along with your activator (24 drops if you’re using 50% citric acid, or 120 drops if you’re using 10% CA or lemon or lime juice). When the solution is ready, you pour into the bottle, then fill with water, and drink it throughout the eight hour period.

      Jim suggests that you do it for three weeks. IF the dosing brings on nausea, then reduce. All the body to eliminate what it needs, and as it needs to. Ultimately, you are the healer, and your body KNOWS what will help it, and how much. Please look into muscle testing and pendulum usage, so that at your form questions, you can ask of your own Inner Being for Its guidance (we ALL have one). If you learn to trust this advice by following it and gaining some experience, you will be guided to the products and practices that YOU need.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

      MMS2 is also a good complement. One would use a small amount of calcium hypochlorite in a size 0 capsule. Put the top on and drink it down. Taking it at most, 4 times a day, or every 2 hours in an 8-hour period. When it goes into the body, it produces hypochlorous acid, which is what the body produces naturally for immune system protection. This is a way to augment the body’s natural defenses.

      Best wishes,

      A~

  154. Rob

    I have a couple of questions, Adam, if you don’t mind.

    1. Is it normal to have: Brain fog / Just feel “out of it”? Some weird aches, that almost feel as if my ‘veins’ ache? All after taking mms.

    2. I have started the new protocol that calls for lower dosages more frequently, but really don’t have any nausea or diarrhea. Are the other symptoms “indicators” of die off? Should I be increasing the hourly/bi-hourly dosages? When do I know when to just do maintenance or stop all together, if following the low dosage and not seeing the normal symptoms / indicators to stop?

    3. When mixing the solution, in a glass cup, I almost always get a “smoke” after the 3 minutes or when I ad water. Is this normal?

    4. Is it normal to have a burning sensation in the throat when taking mms?

    5. I have no knowledge in this area so excuse me if it is just ignorance but with regard to the disaster in the gulf, Why can’t we use chlorine dioxide to purify the water of waste? I mean it cleans everything up and doesn’t leave much behind, right?

    6. Do you know of any blood tests to test for general pathogen load? Or anything that may be used to see results in blood that is relatively disease free. I don’t have any chronic conditions that I know of, but want to “clean” my blood of yuckies and help my body to be its best. I understand that is a virus is present and is no longer after a protocol then that could measure mms’s effectiveness. But what about in a general “cleanup” sort of circumstance?

    Thank you so much for any input you may be able to provide.

    Best wishes.

    1. Hi Rob,
      I can give the questions a shot.

      1) It is normal to have those symptoms as part of detox, I certainly did. It can also be a sign of something else, though. It would not be very ethical to tell you that brain fog etc is just fine and to ride it out if it is actually a sign of something else that should be addressed. I do not believe that MMS can cause a pathology of this nature, however, and my opinion is that if it isn’t detox, then it is some other condition. It is up to your own discretion and knowledge of your own body to determine a course of action, or lack thereof.

      2) As I understand it, Jim was trying to find the perfect dosage that did not cause symptoms and he found 3 drops hourly did both the cures and lacked the nausea. Dosage can go above 3 drops per hour if it is tolerated. I have since done enough research and studies to say confidently that MMS is like DMSO in some ways – both almost miraculous in their effectiveness, however both are very hard on the stomach. DMSO for instance has none of the stomach effects when applied transdermally… I at first assumed the same was true for MMS as it burns the throat. I figured, well, if it burns it would make you nauseous … that only makes sense. My research and inquiries into those experienced in MMS use showed that yes, it is hard on the stomach. My semi-conclusion is that 50% of the nausea from MMS is due to the acidity of it, and 50% is due to detox. Further evidence of this is that if you take MMS intravenously, you will experience nausea but it takes a much larger dose. Even Jim used the IV infusion method several times and was able to take quite a massive dose… although he did find himself pretty sick an hour or so later. This nausea cannot be attributed to harshness on the stomach. I’m not sure how long you should stay on it… AIDS was apparently quieted after 3 weeks on this protocol… therefore I would think 3 weeks regardless of detox symptoms.

      3) Smoke is normal. Chlorine dioxide is a gas, I believe that is what we see in strong mixes.

      4) Burning is normal. Buy capsules and use a 50% mix of citric acid instead of the old recommendation of 10%. This allows you to fit more into a capsule. I can fit a 7 drop dose into my capsule, which is almost double the amount I use. I put three drops of each into the cap, wait a minute or two (the stronger mix takes less time to activate), cap and swallow. Drink a glass or two of water with it. This will dilute the mms in the stomach, lessening the impact nausea. Immediate nausea is probably acid impact… more water and some apple can help.

      5) Good idea. Although everything has to go somewhere. In our bodies, it gets out via vomiting, nasal mucous, poop etc. In the ocean, all the toxins oxidised by MMS would still need an escape route. At a guess.

      6) Google “Live Blood Analysis”. There are regular blood tests to check for many issues, including heavy metals and parasites however regular tests miss many things. For instance, I like to use the example of a woman with thrush: no matter how bad her vaginal thrush, if she goes and gets a blood test it will almost always show negative for candida even though she very obviously has it. This is how tests let us down, telling us we have no pathogens when we may be loaded with them but they just don’t show on the types of tests doctors use.

      As a side note, I cured my blood sugar problems but it wasn’t with MMS alone. I found the combination of MMS with DMSO and MSM the triple punch of doom for diseases. All at once, over a five day period, I hammered my system with these three things – I did nothing else, I didn’t change my diet or anything – and four days later my sugar was completely normal even after half a bottle of wine (which usually shot it straight up to 200, it sat at 100 the whole time, I thought my machine was broken and had it checked!) My premenstrual symptoms disappeared and so did my ovarian cysts and period pain. I had/have a splenic cyst I’m not sure is still there or not because I haven’t had an US scan yet. Seriously, even I am amazed at the results of these things. Perhaps MMS would have done it on its own, but I didn’t do it on its own. I believe the methyl group and oxygen and sulphur from the other two really pack the healing punch.

      1. John

        You mentioned that you used MMS, DMSO ..( I know what those two are) and MSM to cure your diabetes..what is the last one ? “MSM” ..never heard of it.

        Thank you

        John

      2. Hi John,

        MSM is closely related to DMSO, but it has an extra oxygen and does not work transdermally. It also does not leave you with the garlic/oyster smell that DMSO does when used either orally or transdermally. I use the DMSO with MMS for skin issues in a spray bottle, but I can’t do that with MSM. This site is dedicated to MSM: http://www.bulkmsm.com/index.html

      3. When I said it doesn’t have the smell when used orally or transdermally, I meant when the DMSO is used those ways it leaves that smell, MSM can’t be absorbed through the skin. It was worded poorly.

    2. Gilgamesh

      Hi Rob.
      I think sagacious mama explained everything very good, and the only thing maybe would a good idea is to also see a chiro, and check for atlas subluxation. If the atlas is adjusted, everything else will fixes it self.
      And maybe Adam will have more suggestions.

      1. Rob

        Gilgamesh,

        What gave you the indication that I may has “atlas subluxation”?

        Thanks for all the answers guys.

      2. Gilgamesh

        Hi Rob.
        This is my idea; For any kind of health problem, it is a good idea to see a chiro first, or acupuncture, before medicines, and operations. And the only thing I m saying here, it is worth to investigate. But it is everybody’s own personal choice.
        You have some good questions in your post, about tests for pathogen loads.
        I m using MMS now about 2 years, not all the time, but on and off. But if I use it 1 or 3 months every day, how can I know, if I cleaned up all the pathogens, or even half of it? As sagacious wrote, it may not show up in blood tests. I would like to think , that all pathogens cleaned up in one week, but as Jim wrote, taking 15 drops 3 times a day for a week without the side effects should clean up everything. But I think I never did 15 drops 3x a day, but 5or 6 or 9, 10 drops several times a day, As I just dont like all that acid, all in one drink. But maybe Dave or Jim, or someone may write more about this, and about your other concerns about the brain fog, and weird aches.

        Best regards.

  155. Rob

    Adam, so what are your thoughts on this now?

    The FDA issued a warning against mms.

    See: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm220756.htm

  156. Mike Van

    Hi Adam, I have not been on this site for a while but I have been following all the posts through my email as well as all the MMS news. About a year and a half ago I used MMS becasue I was having some real bad symptoms that had an uknown cause. I have a question regarding some otherposts that I have read about on curezone as well as other helpful sites. I want to receommend MMS to a friend of mine but he has high iron levels and may have hemochromatosis. I read that MMS may increase iron levels and obvioulsy we would not want that to happen to him. So do you know anything about the issue and if not, maybe someone else will read this and be able to shed some light. Thanks again. It is a real great thing to be able to post a question and get a REAL answer. This site is wonderful and I can probably speak for everyone struggling for answers when I say thamks for taking your time out to help. Thanks again, Mike.

    1. Hi Mike,

      Can’t say that I’ve heard anything about hemochromatosis, but if a person has it, it appears that they have a number of other things going on that an intake of chlorine dioxide via MMS would help. For just about any pathology that you can think of, it’s very likely that MMS would be helpful, not because it is a cure all, but it introduces something that tens to be in short supply when one is dealing with a chronic condition; oxygen. Oxygen isn’t the only thing, but introducing it tends to help get things back to normal.

      I am not aware of MMS usage increasing iron levels. A person who has hemochromatosis should be increasing the rest of his minerals to balance out the iron. That is a far better solution than giving blood periodically while living with the other symptoms of the condition.

      I’ve also begun calling attention to water, not only the amount of normal intake, but the energetic condition of it. If the water your friend drinks and showers or bathes in is “structured,” it will effectively be chlorine and fluoride free. I say effectively because structuring water causes a change in each molecule, as well as the clustering characteristics, making the water denser, with more oxygen and hydrogen available. This will also improve the health of the blood, as well as intracellular and extracellular fluids. You can see the technology that I’m referring to at http://www.photonicwater.com.

      The chemicals that are routinely added to water have received a complete pass with respect to their long-term effect on human health, or their contribution to disease. A technology that “turns off” the chemical effect by discharging their electrical bonds, can reveal some of the real contributors to disease, as well as help us chart a path back to health.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  157. Mike Altmann

    To Clint
    Thanks for that, really! You’re right. This UC business began 20 years ago, six months after I stopped smoking. The doctor said there is no cure, so I started smoking again, and within 3 days all the UC symptoms disappeared. Ten years later, I decided I simply MUST stop smoking for good. So I did, but I armed myself with nicotine patches and nicotine chewing gum, and the UC didn’t reappear – until a couple of months ago, out of the blue. A world-famous acupuncturist promptly told me that this was due to my taking MMS on a daily basis. He said that MMS is superb, but that, in killing everything naughty in the body, it also kills certain beneficial worms, called Helminths (look it up on Google). To replenish the body with Helminths, one ought to drink that worm’s eggs. One is said not to notice it at all, if drunk in a glass of juice. But the doctor who administers those worms’ eggs is at the University of Iowa. That’s a long way for me to travel, especially as one needs to keep drinking these eggs, and it’s not as though one can take a supply home with one.
    As for smoking – it occurred to me that nicotine might help this time, too. So I’ve been walking around with a 21 mg nicotine patch (changed every day) for the past two weeks. It doesn’t seem to have done the trick, worse luck. Finally, I’ll take your words very much to heart. But I’ll be honest with you – if anyone seriously suggested a colostomy to me, I would jump straight off the roof of the 7-storey building that I liv in. What? Me walk around with a bag? No way!
    Dear Phaelosopher. Thank you so much for your very interesting contribution. But I’ll be honest with you, too. Although I imagine that, somewhere or other I could locate magnesium oil, and if I do, I’ll definitely rub it into my skin – I am seriously nonplussed as regards the water. I don’t know the difference between clustered water and photonic water. I have not the slightest idea as to whether this is something that one can buy. You’ll probably chuckle, but the one thing that I HAVE recently started doing, in my innocence and since I am too weary to do more, is to put some water into the freezer, let it sit there for three hours, and then break the top ice and drink the water underneath, after first having given it an hour to get less cold. Am I nuts? Is there any benefit in doing that? Does freezing the water make it clustered or photonic? Should I, instead, let a jug of water sit for three hours in the sunshine, and then drink that? D’you know, my body (and thus my mind) are so pooped right now, I can hardly think clearly any more. And I really don’t have a soul that I can discuss this with – at least, not a soul who has the time or patience (or love) to really ponder all these questions and somehow help me find a route through what, at present, appears to me as a tangled web of information that simply must be penetrated and made sense of. Sorry to be such a dratted nuisance and to burden you with these dilemmas. And, irrespective of whether there is anything that you wish to write by way of reply, thank you for your Thought for Food website. You are like a doctor to the whole world. You deserve a knighthood!

  158. Mike Altmann

    To Clint and Canadian Farmgirl – I cannot believe how very considerate and caring you are. It’s quite amazing. Right now, I am so utterly devoid of any energy that, believe ir or not, it is a huge effort just to lift my hand so as to type this (with one finger). My two doctors looked at me very sternly yesterday evening and, trying to choose their words carefully, told me that, if I don’t take proper care of myself, starting right now, I run a serious risk of developing something practically incurable, and that the end will be in sight. Gee whiz! And only two months ago I was jumping about like a frisky 3 year-old! That’s why I am especially grateful for your attempts to clarify the steps I ought to take. It’s so decent of you, it’s heart-rending!!! Thank you again.

    1. Clint

      Mike,

      I have a sense that your body has been trying to speak to you for over a decade, even WAY before your colitis ever showed up !! (think about it)

      The body always gives little signs about the help it needs…. and now, the KNOCKS on the door for you Mike are VERY loud…. demanding you pay attention to the needs of the Colon.

      Because I was the exact same way you are right now…. no energy, very little mental clarity…. afraid to eat cause it induces a bowel movement within 20 min. of eating, depression, (I could go on)……… Sound familiar ?

      Mike….. if you do not take time OFF work,…. stay home and take care of the matter at hand right before you, (that your body is screaming to be noticed)…. you may not have another chance to do so, and you might pass that point of No Return……..

      I’m talking a Colostomy.

      I mean well when I say all this…. and am hoping you take this to heart.

      The body is ALWAYS right… and does what it needs to do to be well….. and you having Zero energy is a statement your body is trying to make to you. Hope you give it what it needs.

      sincerely,

      Clint

  159. Canadian Farmgirl

    Clint (and Mike)

    The Living Clay I purchased is so ultra-fine, I eat a teaspoon every morning, and the consistency is just like yogurt, with absolutely NO grittiness. This company prides itself on the superior quality of their clay, but maybe you could ask them, Mike, about whether they have any testimonials about UC.

    Our friend did not have a severe case, per se, but he was diagnosed with UC and was on several medications for it, and the clay was a great relief to him. It seems that clay is wonderful for all things gastric, from what I’ve read.

    The choice is yours, Mike, always 😀

    Julie

  160. Canadian Farmgirl

    Hi Mike…there’s ALWAYS hope 😉

    I originally heard about bentonite clay through this very website, as Adam interviewed Perry A*, the author of “Living Clay: Nature’s Own Miracle Cure”…
    The company I order it from is The Living Clay Company (www.livingclayco.com). There is also a very informative website with lots of testimonials, different uses of, etc. at http://www.aboutclay.com

    Unfortunately, I am having trouble finding the link to Adam’s webcast, but both websites have ample research material you can read, listen to, or order in book format.

    I live in Ontario, Canada, and used the 800 phone number for the Living Clay Co to order. I don’t know where you are, but I’m sure either of those websites will have information about where it would be easiest to order for you.

    Please keep me posted on your success!

    Julie

    1. Clint

      Mike & Julie,

      This is just my 2c… so please take it for what it’s worth…

      With a condition like Severe Ulcerative colitis, I might hold off for a while when taking the Clay, for the simple reason of it’s abrasiveness, and the possibility that it might irritate the mucous lining of the large intestine even more.

      “Severe Ulcerative Colitis” simply means that.. the condition of the mucous lining of the large intestine is at a degenerative point, and is approaching a critical point of not being able to be repaired.

      Having a gritty clay product coming down the tube of the colon might cause more of a spastic reaction.

      Just my opinion,

      Clint

  161. Mike Altmann

    Canadian Farmgirl (just the nname itself inspires a sende of sparkling health) – thank you so much for that. I just have two questions, if you will forgive me for being a nuisance. Are you definitely saying “Yes, MMS can help with UC?” And, secondly, have you any idea at all where one goes about purchasing the bentonite clay? Is it done via the Internet? Anyways – whatever your answers you’ve given me some much-needed renewed hope!!!! One feels a bit alone in this world of auto-immune diseases.

  162. Mike Altmann

    I don’t know how to locate the “search” function on this post, and I don’t have sufficient strength any longer to go through all the contributions one by one. In short, does ANYONE know for sure whether MMS can do anything for a very severe case of ulcerative colitis, which is an auto-immune disease. I would hate to have to go onto steroids, which looks like the next step. Many thanks to anyone, who, from experience, can inform me as to whether MMS can help. I have the bottles here, next to me, but I hestitate to use them, just in case the MMS makes my condition even worse.

    1. clint

      Mike,

      I suffered with SEVERE Ulcerative colitis for 4 years (25 years ago), and cured myself of it with a few things that would take TOO long to post here.

      Please email me at macaddict08@att.net . . . . and I can help you with this nasty disease, and how to deal with it.

      sincerely,

      Clint

    2. Canadian Farmgirl

      Mike, a friend of my husband’s had UC and was on many different medications. We first got him to take bentonite clay for 2 weeks, to help clean out the toxins in his body before starting the MMS. He started out slowly, and within a relatively short time (5 weeks, or so), was feeling fabulous, and was off all his medications. The MMS will cause more die-off, so it’s very important to help your body eliminate the toxins. Drink lots of water (structured, right Adam 😉 take Epsom salt baths, and take it slow.

      Best of Luck.

    3. Mike,

      You’ve received some great advice from Clint and Julie… MMS and living clay will definitely help, as they both reduce the toxic load that the body is carrying. PHOTONIC water technology will help, because it effectively NEUTRALIZES the harmful effects of the water treatment. I was in England a few weeks ago (London, Winchester, and Oxford), and interviewed several people with severe chronic conditions, from a 26 year old young man who was diagnosed with kidney failure and has been on dialysis for 2 years, to a 78 year old woman who moves around like a robot due to calcification of her joints. Her husband of 50+ years died last year of prostate cancer. The common denominator for the wide range of disease conditions that have responded positively to MMS use, is WATER. And yet, standard medical practice doesn’t look at it, municipal water treatment authorities don’t look at it. The medical industry simply labels any repeated pathology as a “disease,” and then develops drugs to make the symptoms APPEAR to diminish, and then make a killing, literally and figuratively.

      You would also benefit by taking liquid “magnesium oil” on a regular basis… just rub into your skin. Magnesium will accelerate the healing of the lining of the colon, as well as help improve function is other areas that probably need help too that you’ve not yet noticed.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  163. CdnFarmgirl

    This is for Saving Grace (hope it ends up near her post). I read your full story on your blog, and am wondering if you have ever considered taking living clay, (bentonite clay) for yourself and your children. It does wonders for many digestive issues and helps detoxify the body in a very gentle, but highly effective manner. For more information, you can check either aboutclay.com or livingclaycompany.com.

    Best of luck,
    Julie

  164. Gavin

    Hi Adam,

    I would like to prepare my own MMS but am a little confused about buying sodium chlorite as it seems to come in different concentrations.

    On Jim Humble’s site he writes:
    Step 1: In a small bowl place 4 level tablespoons of sodium chlorite powder.
    Step 2: Add 3 ounces of distilled warm water (max temperature – 150 degrees Farenheit).”

    And you noted further up the page:

    “MMS is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite, created by combining a precise measure of sodium chlorite crystals with distilled water. The 28% refers to the the ratio of sodium chlorite crystals to distilled water, by weight/volume.”

    It’s clear to me what you wrote but when looking at sodium chlorite products (online in Japan) I see different percentages on the (20kg) boxes which range from 5% to 12% (highest) so I was wondering whether the 12% box would be suitable? Other than sodium chlorite there are no other ingredients listed so I don’t know what the other 88% is comprised of.

    If I bought the 12% pack, for example, do you think this would mean having to readjust the measurement of sodium chlorite powder to distilled water? Or would it still be as Jim Humble’s recommendation?

    By the way, I bought a MMS kit off the net a month ago and it worked really well. It got rid of a heat related allergy I’ve had for years so I’m pretty happy about that.

    Thanks,
    Gavin

  165. Kimberlee

    Hi Adam,

    I was recently found out about MMS about a month ago. Just last week I found out I had candida in my blood and it was recommended that I try MMS as others have experienced a cleansing of their system pretty quickly.

    I have quick question. You can buy mms on Amazon and the prices very somewhat. I’m curious what the differences are, if any. I just want to pay the least amount for the best product since finances need to be in check.

    Thanks!
    Kimberlee

    1. Hi Kimberly,

      I took a look at amazon.com and see that they are selling product produced by PGL Intl. I know the owners of PGL, and would be comfortable with the purchase. However, what you may not get is PGL’s customer service. MMS is not expensive. Amazon.com will not be offering you any assistance, help, or comfort when you’re using MMS. PGL actually has someone on staff who talks with customers and answer questions. For the $6-$7 extra that you would pay, you get access to a wealth of experience that, in my opinion, is more than worth is.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  166. Will

    Hi Adam

    Thank You for this website. I have been looking for a place where i can find legitimate feedback from people using MMS. I have seen other websites…but I am put off by some of the negativity i have seen from other people who dont really believe in MMS….so while I imagine I can expect that from all places …I am glad that here you provide real responses.

    I have two questions and I will make them as brief as possible. 🙂

    I have two friends who are suffering from HIV that i have convinced to get off the medicine that their doctor prescribed for them and to use MMS1 and MMS2 (together) I told them that it will stop all symptoms of HIV if they follow the protocol (3 drops activated MMS per hour for 8-12 hours for 3 weeks weeks)

    THey are doing exactly what I told them now. I have also told them that because HIV antibodies stay with them all their lives…that there is a very good chance that they will never test negative for the HIV virus based on how HIV tests are designed but that they would still be free from the virus.

    Being that they were used to blood testing from their doctor every month…and that they are not going back to the doctor….they each want to monitor their Tcell count and CD4 count…because I believe this can tell them how healthy they are… while they believe in MMS…they just want to make sure their bodies are not getting more of the virus load now that they are not taking the Doctors Virus medication….My question is can they still take a regular Blood test from an alternative doctor that will give them their Tcell and CD4 counts montly …or is there a specialized test that they would need to get??

    I think this would ease their minds a bit..as they are still a little afraid of not taking their doctors medicine regularly but are still very confident that MMS and MMs2 can help. 🙂

    My second question is. One of the guys are taking the correct MMS protocol for HIV but every so often he will take more 6 activated drops to keep his mouth clean….and brush his teeth..then he says he drinks the solution after he finishes….He notices that he will after this his bowel movements will be either all liquid or in diareah (spelling) form.. He is wondering that since he doesnt get this type of bowel movement at the 3 droop level, should he be increasing his dosage hour by hour. Would that help him more if he folllowed the same protocol just increasing his dosage each hour until his diahreah (spelling) stops….would this benefit him?? He is concerned that because he has this type of bowel movement when increasing that maybe the MMS is not working for him at 3 activated drops and that the virus is gaining on him. I am not sure what to tell him

    Any words of wisdom would be very helpful

    Thank you again for this website…I really appreciate any response you or anyone else may have

    Thank you so much

    Will

    1. Greetings Will,

      I am preparing to return home from the Dominican Republic after spending time with Jim on MMS, recording the entire workshop on video (and more). HIV/AIDS was discussed. Without reviewing the footage directly, I recall Jim mentioning that T-cell counts would initially rise when MMS is begun, but would then fall. Instead of monitoring their body chemistry, I would strongly suggest that your friends monitor how they feel. Focusing more on feelings, and on living life, will bring about a profound change in body chemistry. It also develops a more direct and interactive relationship between the person and his body.

      Notice whether energy improves, or pains go away. Notice whether you are thinking about life and living again, and finding that you are better able to pursue a desired goal. If we get into the game of monitoring our chemistry in order to determine whether we are healthy or not, we will have simply taken over the task of “looking for something wrong” from the doctor. We will always find what we look for. Notice what is going *right*, and then be grateful for that change. More changes like that will then “show up.”

      It is better to ease the mind first, perhaps by gaining a better appreciation for what the previous prescriptions were doing to their body chemistry, and seeing the wisdom of stopping it.

      The extra bowel action with the increase in MMS consumption indicates that (1) there is more to get out, and (2) he can accelerate the process if he wants to. That’s one of the beauties of working with MMS; its supreme variability with respect to dosing. You can go quickly or slowly, as much as your lifestyle tolerates. Once the toxicity is out, the diarrhea would stop.

      The choice is his… no need for concern, simply make adjustments, up or down, to get what he feels is best for him.

      Best wishes and many thanks.

      Adam…

  167. Lynette

    DEAR ADAM I CANNOT ACCESS JIM’S NEWLETTERS .. ‘THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED’ IS THE MESSAGE I RECEIVE. I REALLY WANT TO READ ABOUT THE NEW PROTOCOL FOR TAKING MMS. COULD YOU PLEASE LOOK INTO THE MATTER FOR US AS YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO REMAIN UPDATED ON MMS USAGE. Kind Regards,
    Lynette / London

    1. sagacious mama

      Hi lynette. Adam is doing field work with mms at the moment and possibly cannot access the net. I also get that message, I just checked it now.

      However, the protocol that is working for virtually everything chronic is 3 drops every hour for 8 hours a day. If cancer etc, then 12 hours a day.

      Same protocol applies, that is, if you feel sick, scale back to less drops but don’t stop taking it.

      I cannot remember how long for, but I think it said for as long as you are sick.

      That was in the latest newsletter. 800 cured of AIDS and 50 cured of cancer with that protocol. Jim has 400 officially documented testimonials (the other 400 were confiscated at customs).

      I do not know what has happened to the newsletters. Adam would have that info but keep in mind that the protocols listed on his site still work. Just keep at it for as long as possible as recurrence can be an issue. I would think recurrence is more based in lifestyle and diet at that point. Raw foods, structured water, sunshine, laughter, love, movement, fresh air, mental stillness! If you have them, you have all you need.

  168. Lynette

    Dear Adam … I am not sure if my last email to you went through ..so am asking my former question in brief again. I get this message when I try to access Jim Humbles latest newsletter ‘THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED’. Sorry I have not had the time to read through your myriad communications on this site – so have not seen if anyone else is having trouble accessing the NEW PROTOCOL re the taking of MMS. Please help – it is soo vital to receive the news and aid that comes from Jim’s latest newsletters. Warmly…Lynette/London

  169. Lynette

    Dear Adam, I saved Jim’s latest newsletter(No. 10)hoping to flush my liver and to refer to his info regarding this for when I was ready (i.e. now!). However I am completely unable to access his newsletter and latest protocol on the usage of MMS. The message just comes up on my screen ‘This account has been suspended’. Is Jim’s contact with the world being somehow blocked… HELP please Adam as we are able to get scant info from Jim as he has to lie low and it would be a pity if even this scant information is now cut off!! Really look forward to your response to the above…Thank you for your service regarding MMS…Lynette Rodwell

  170. Carolin

    Hi phaelsoper!
    Im glad to see so many pepole using the MMS, that really gives me hope. Im sp excited to try it. I live in Sweden and found one site but they didnt sell it anymore and was reffering to projectgreenlife, altough Ive heard som fraud things about someone steeling the site and so on. Can you recomend some sites to me? Checked out the global green light network, it looked great but the cost for shippng was 87USD!:E
    Will be ever so greatfull for answer
    Bless

    Carolin
    <3

  171. Lola

    Hi there, excellent blog.. I tried to read all posts before I put my questions here, but that takes days…
    I’m ready to start my detox and start using MMS.
    I need somebody to tell me how many bottles of OXY should I take for complete intestinal cleaning (I want all the bad stuff gone) One? Or more?

    Secondly, reading people’s experiences with MMS I see that people react differently, some get nauseus after 2-3 drops, some much later, but everyone has to be cautious not to take too much to soon.
    How come, then, that Jim Humble gave large one-time doses to malaria victims, in order to cure them at once. Did they get nauseus? Taking 15, even 30 drops at once they should’ve vomit their heart out…I do no think they did…I’m confused here…

    Last question concerns dosage in 2hrs protocol. Jim says to take it slow, but what does it actually mean? Like taking 1 drop every 2 hrs for a 2-3 days, then 2 drops for a couple of days…? Is that correct?

    I work as an real-estate agent, I’m no office clerk, so nausea, diarhea and vomiting while trying to sell a house or a condo are out of the question. I should avoid that at any ost, except on weekends.

    I would apreciate any input, thanks!

    1. Hi Lola,

      The directions suggest taking the Oxy-Powder for one week. When you take it, you will KNOW if it is cleaning out the intestinal tract because it will be VERY EVIDENT that you’ve released some OLD stuff, if you know what I mean. 🙂 You’re right that each person will have their own experience with MMS, that’s because the internal “ecology” that is normal to each person is unique. There are some common traits, but outside of improving your immune system, it’s best not to base your expectations on any one else’s experiences.

      Jim gave one-time doses to people who had malaria because (1) they were too numerous to “treat” in a leisurely fashion, (2), they were still learning how to use the protocol, and what would be effective, and (3) treating malaria was/is a different challenge than addressing a chronic condition. I asked him about vomiting, etc., when he gave people MMS in the early days, and he said that it wasn’t a factor. They simply felt better in a short period of time. This could be because their body doesn’t have the long time exposure to a wide spectrum of chemicals that the typical Western urban citizen is dealing with. Simpler chemistry could have meant simpler resolution.

      The meaning of the term “taking it slow” will also differ from one person to the next. If you understand that some detox events that the body will need to go through may be “inconvenient”, to put it mildly, then you can modulate the amount of intake, as well as the frequency, in order to get the results you’re seeking and still manage your lifestyle.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  172. Mary

    I have a dear dear friend who is on his death bed, suffering, waiting to die. At this moment, all tests reveal 5 fist-size tumors in his brain, three being located at the brain stem, one in the frontal lobe, and one on the right side, causing paralysis on his left side. He is losing weight rather quickly, last was 11lbs in four days..eating and drinking has become confusing for him in the swallowing process. Adam, do you think MMS could help him? Can you talk to me about it? Not looking for diagnosis, just relief for him….he is on his last of 10 treatments of radiology. Has been down a long road, wish I would have found you/MMS sooner! I would have the greatest appreciation on your thoughts. This is new to me, just came across it last night, looking for anything to help him, conventional or unconventional.
    Please let me know, or give me guidance.
    I eagerly await your response!
    Thank you, ADAM!
    Sincerely, Sincerely,
    Mary

  173. Jan

    Hi Adam, I have just purchased the MMS and I’m wanting to start using it as soon possible so would like some advice as the article below states that the use of antioxidants with MMS will neutralize it.

    I found the article regarding the use of antioxidants when I did a google search for colon cleansing.

    I don’t eat bread or dairy or anything processed and my diet consists largely of raw foods, so my breakfast includes a green juice made with kale, cucumber, apples, ginger and a little lime.
    I was planning to use lime to activate the MMS solution but would still like to add fresh apple juice to it so does the apple not contain antioxidants?

    Do you think the juicing would neutralize the effect of the MMS. I use the Biocera Alkaline Antioxidant Jug which adds antioxidants to the water and raises the ph to between 8-9 so would that also neutralize the effect of MMS? I don’t drink anything else apart from this filtered water.
    Best wishes
    Jan☺

    Here is part of the article you can go to the link to see the rest of it.
    http://www.topcoloncleanseproducts.com/detox/what-you-should-know-if-using-mms-long-term
    By Lee Jacobs
    “it is important to supplement with additional anti oxidant support whilst consuming MMS. The ingestion of these additional anti oxidants should be taken apart from MMS, as if they are consumed too close together, then neutralization will take place. For example, if you use MMS before breakfast and just before bedtime – then antioxidants should be taken towards the middle of the day.
    This applies to antioxidants in the form of supplements, such as vitamin E, C and also B complex, grape seed extract, and coenzyme Q10. Foods that are rich in antioxidants such as berries, turmeric, polyunsaturated oils, Green tee, and fresh fruit are also best taken and consumed apart from MMS. As ascorbic acid is such a powerful supplement for the protection of oxidant sensitive structures such as the brain, eyes and heart. When consuming vitamin C, make sure to consume it at least 1 – 2 hours either side of the MMS protocol, as upon contact with the chlorine dioxide molecule, neutralization will take effect.”

  174. Jan

    Can anyone shed some light on this.. I had this posted on my facebook wall concerning MMS…

    “I thought chlorine was a biocide. The entire argument about sucralose/splenda being bad for you, is the fact that it is a chlorocarbon and chlorine is a biocide.

    Effects on Humans: Chlorine dioxide is a severe respiratory and eye irritant in humans. Inhalation can produce coughing, wheezing, respiratory distress, and congestion in the lungs [Patnaik 1992]. Irritating effects in humans was intense at concentration levels of 5 ppm. Accidental exposure at 19 ppm of the gas inside a bleach tank resulted in the death of one worker (time of exposure is not specified) [ACGIH 1991]. Workers exposed for 5 years to average chlorine dioxide concentrations below 0.1 ppm but with excursions to higher concentrations had symptoms of eye and throat irritation, nasal discharge, cough, and wheezing; on bronchoscopy, bronchitis was observed in seven of the 12 workers [Clayton and Clayton 1982]. Concentrations of 0.25 ppm and less have been reported to worsen mild respiratory ailments [ACGIH 1991]. Two adults who ingested 250 ml of a 40 mg/l solution of chlorine dioxide experienced headache, nausea, abdominal discomfort, and lightheadedness within 5 minutes of ingestion”

    http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/chlorinedioxide/index.html

    Sorry if this was posted twice.. its my first time on here and not sure if posts need to be validated

    best wishes:)

    1. Hi Jan,

      I answered your post first time you submitted your question. Hopefully you’ll have the time to review.

      Regards,

      Adam…

      1. Jan

        Hi Adam thank you for the information..
        I’ve just bought MMS and it states to add pure water to the activator.

        Can I use filtered water? The filter I use is “The Biocera Alkaline Antioxidant Jug” it filters and ionises your tap water turning it into alkaline water which has antioxidant properties. It increases the pH of the filtered water to between 8.5 and 9.5.
        Many thanks in advance:)

  175. Jan

    Hi, I’ve just bought MMS and have been praising the benfits when someone left the info below on my wall with this link..

    http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/chlorinedioxide/index.html

    I was knocked back a little can you comment on this for me?

    “I thought chlorine was a biocide. The entire argument about sucralose/splenda being bad for you, is the fact that it is a chlorocarbon and chlorine is a biocide.

    Effects on Humans: Chlorine dioxide is a severe respiratory and eye irritant in humans. Inhalation can produce coughing, wheezing, respiratory distress, and congestion in the lungs [Patnaik 1992]. Irritating effects in humans was intense at concentration levels of 5 ppm. Accidental exposure at 19 ppm of the gas inside a bleach tank resulted in the death of one worker (time of exposure is not specified) [ACGIH 1991]. Workers exposed for 5 years to average chlorine dioxide concentrations below 0.1 ppm but with excursions to higher concentrations had symptoms of eye and throat irritation, nasal discharge, cough, and wheezing; on bronchoscopy, bronchitis was observed in seven of the 12 workers [Clayton and Clayton 1982]. Concentrations of 0.25 ppm and less have been reported to worsen mild respiratory ailments [ACGIH 1991]. Two adults who ingested 250 ml of a 40 mg/l solution of chlorine dioxide experienced headache, nausea, abdominal discomfort, and lightheadedness within 5 minutes of ingestion”

    1. Greetings Jan,

      Until Jim Humble came along, Chlorine dioxide was used in strictly large scale disinfection and water treatment applications, where the concentrations were much higher. That is the norm of the time the OSHA advisory was written, and in that context, it was/is true. Even with that, chlorine dioxide is considered a superior disinfectant than chlorine for municipal water treatment, as well as abatement of such deadly pathogens as anthrax. Jim Humble discovered that, at much smaller concentrations, chlorine dioxide is a very effective and safe way to reduce the pathogen load (i.e., anaerobic microorganisms, and chemical toxicity) that may be inside the human body.

      I would not call chlorine dioxide a “biocide,” because aerobic microorganisms are living creatures too, and are not affected by contact with ClO2. What we don’t tend to acknowledge is that the anaerobic are necessary too. Anaerobic overgrowth occurs when there is too little oxygen coursing through the body. Chlorine dioxide delivers oxygen (energy), and with it comes a reduction in the anaerobic population. Unlike chlorine, chlorine dioxide does so without producing NEW chemical toxicities.

      Best wishes and thanks for your question,

      Adam…

      1. sagacious mama

        What is the evidence that the helpful bacteria are not harmed? I keep hearing this, but I have yet to see what this is based on. I can’t even imagine what a test of this idea would consist of without a lab.

        It is also worth noting that there is bacteria that is considered harmful in the wrong place, but are useful and harmless where they are. For instance, certain lower colon bacteria, who need an acidic medium (which is what the colon is) to thrive. What is the effect on these bacteria and what is the evidence the answer to this is based on? A well known example is E Coli.

        If these bacteria travel to the upper colon or into the blood stream, they can make us very sick. They are considered pathogenic and would definitely be a target for MMS or anything like it. Where they are, however, they are not only ok, but required. There are many of this ilk.

        What sets them apart so they are not a target for something like MMS? Do we know the chemistry of this yet?

        I have recommended nystatin for many issues because until MMS, I treated most diseases by decreasing the fungal load of the gut and system. This was really effective, however nystatin has its limitations, such as causing resistance and killing indiscriminately. Just like bacteria, there are some fungi that we need only not on the same scale as bacteria. We are 90% microorganism, only 10% human. Sobering thought.

        I accepted these drawbacks because it was worth it and it is not that strenuous a task to recolonise the gut with good guys, just a little sauerkraut or kefir really. Wouldn’t it be wiser, until we know the effects for sure, to advise people take a good (preferably food based) probiotic during and after MMS?

        Thanks for any help.

      2. Hey Mama!

        I absolutely agree with you on conscious recolonizing. I also suggest an intestinal cleanse before taking MMS. If there is unprocessed “stuff” coating the intestinal tract, it should be addressed first, making it easier for the ClO2 to get into the bloodstream instead of having to be “spent” trying to get through the gut. I’ll be “off the grid” for a couple days, but it’s always good to hear from you.

        Regards,

        Adam…

      3. sagacious mama

        oops. I see one of my questions was already answered, regarding the overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria. Sorry about that. I still don’t entirely understand that concept yet, but I have a toddler on my lap so don’t understand much at all except that it’s really hard to type while hugging and singing.

  176. I read Mamas’ experience with using capsules. There is a very important part of the process which has not been addressed. I corresponded with Mr. Humble about this and he agrees. First, the 50% 1to1 mix is ready in 15 to 30 seconds. You don’t have to wait 3 minutes. If you do the gel cap will probably dissolve in your hand. Second, (from my experience) the recommended and authorized dropper cap will dispense drops directly into the cap very easily. When this is done, holding the cap in your fingers, swirl the cap around or shake it gently. Believe it or not the reaction will accelerate then calm down a bit (in less than 30 seconds). Now is the time to cap and swallow – with no hesitation. Follow immediately with as much water as you can drink (hey, it’s good for you) at least 6 to 8 ounces to insure the complete travel of the capsule to the stomach. Follow this method and you will be just fine. I have enjoyed this new process so much that I have developed a MMS Capsule Kit available on my eBay store.

  177. Katia

    I’m a 43 year old female who has been taking care of myself and take MSM, vitamins and probiotics and eat well most of the time. When I eat heavy cheese or anything with sugar, including fruit, my face breaks out.

    Is is okay for me to take the MMS along with my MSM. So I have to do the oxygen pills since I’m taking MSM alreayd?

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  179. Sandy

    My husband has colon cancer spread to the liver, he is about to start a very harsh series of chemotherapy. How can this product work for him? Thank you, desperate in Colorado.

    1. Dear Sandy,

      I am sorry that you and your husband have come to this difficult place. However, the short answer is yes, it CAN HELP, with the emphasis on the word CAN. However, you and your husband need to understand a few things about his body, human physiology, and factors that have contributed to his condition. When you understand, you’ll be able to take beneficial corrective actions whether you use MMS or something else.

      To put it simply, your husband’s body is out of optimal balance. By a more familiar term, optimal balance is what we call “health.” The body is always seeking to maintain optimal balance, given the tools that we give it, PLUS our personal attitude and belief overlays, which influence what we are, and are not susceptible to. If he wants to heal, then he has to be willing to look at ALL of these factors.

      To things I can tell you with assurance. (1) Your husband does NOT have a chemotherapy deficiency. And (2) the chemotherapy will NOT restore optimal balance, or homeostasis.

      Things that WILL restore optimal balance.

      Optimally structured water — smaller cluster sizes, high in stable oxygen.
      MMS — introduces high amounts of oxygen
      Minerals — facilitate his body’s ability to attract and conduct electrical charge (his body’s ability to do this is, at present, depressed). Can be replenished many ways, including by ingesting small quantities of Himalayan salt, either in crystal form, or in solution (referred o as a solé).
      Aerobic Microorganisms — populations often depleted when antibiotics are prescribed, can be done by drinking raw, unpasteurized milk.
      Vitamin D — only the real type will do, and that comes from real sunlight, and from Himalayan salt rocks and crystals, when a light source is run through it.
      FORGIVENESS — doesn’t cost anything, but releases the DEBT he is bringing on himself.
      JOY — When heartfelt, OPENS him to energies that HEAL from the INSIDE, out.

      This is an INNER journey that no one modality is going to change, that is, unless your husband changes. You need not be desperate, nor feed into desperation thinking. FEARFUL and “LACKFUL” thinking is already active, and unless changed, will take you further down the path you’re on. No one can change that but you and your husband. Yet, by your finding this forum, you’re clearly looking for viable options. The options ARE in nature, both in natural substances and methods, and in the human spirit, which is the real X-Factor. It’s the X-factor because it’s always present and always able, but only works IF WE believe in ourselves, and in IT, to be at peace and let it do what comes naturally.

      If I were you, I would find a doctor or health care practitioner that resonates with what the points that have been laid out here, and can guide you, since these concepts might be new to you. I wouldn’t rely on MMS alone, because it addresses only part of the contributing factors. I wouldn’t ignore the attitudinal and belief factors. Even though you can’t “see” or “touch” them, they influence much more than most people are willing to realize. The FIRST thing you should do is RELAX, and look at this as an opportunity to grow in spirit, not as an impending doom.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  180. sagacious mama

    I meant to say hypochlorite, not hydrochlorite. It’s late, research heavy lids… must sleep…

  181. sagacious mama

    Interesting, a patent for a biocide has been submitted for chlorine dioxide and hypochlorous acid, together, as one stable liquid: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080226748

    This is MMS1 and MMS2, together, made stable so they can last in a bottle for over two months. It discloses the ingredients. And I also found it interesting that apparently any chlorite can be used, such as magnesium chlorite, calcium chlorite, etc. Is this true of MMS1? Can any chlorite be used?

    Also, note they explain that both the acid and the chlorine dioxide are produced with the addition of an acid, then buffered for stability with an alkali.

    No mention of calcium hydrochlorite as part of the ingredients.

  182. sagacious mama

    … but I hear you, Clint, with the grains. However, there was no change when I removed them from their diet. I feel this is a problem in their gut flora, and in their nasal/sinus flora. H2O2 sometimes worked when sprayed into the nose, but I’m worried that is too harsh, and it isn’t sticking long term as a solution. Therefore, it must be gut. But then, what isn’t? Hence why I thought MMS might work, esp as we all bathed in it at least once (causing the kids to breathe it in).

  183. sagacious mama

    Finally got a chance to do another post. Clint, I forgot to answer your questions. My son is still breastfeeding, he is 2 in April, so he feeds before bed but that is natural. We haven’t had dairy in years, it is cancer causing, inhumane (to steal another’s milk, and how they treat the cows) and tastes terrible. We go raw occasionally but I find it too hard a lifestyle to maintain with children.

    Regarding the nausea, I know people who do MMS and get very nauseous, like me, but get little or no sickness if they use it any other way (DMSO, enema, IV). I asked around, to double check what you said, and it really does seem to be caused by taking it orally. So I am still not finding satisfactory answers to this particular issue.

    Another question is regarding bathing in mms. If it is dangerous to inhale the gas for too long, is it ok in the bath… I assume so because it is advocated on Jim’s site, plus there would be more oxygen in the air.

    I am reading the book at the moment. Interesting back story.

    When I stopped taking it, I got pains around my ovaries, and it “felt” like my issues were growing. I believe there are pathogens in my cysts, because the one in my spleen most likely is tapeworm. So I didn’t get them all, which is disappointing. I will be starting the treatment again, but I’m still not sure when to stop the treatment. An AIDS patient friend of mine was cured of his problems, and he suggested I do either the cancer or the AIDS protocol, as they are designed to tackle harder issues.

    Any ideas? Is anyone still here? Maybe there is a forum that is more suitable than cluttering up Adam’s page?

  184. sagacious mama

    Hi. I was wondering if someone could help me with the exploding capsule issue. Every time I ask (including here) there is an eerie silence in the online “room”, so to speak. Is there updated information elsewhere that I have missed on this?

    I followed the directions, as given here: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-capsules.htm

    Summarised, they are to have 50% citric acid drops, and just do 50/50 drops into a capsule, CAP IMMEDIATELY AND SWALLOW.

    I did this, and damaged my oesophagus. You will see in past posts here I mention the issue I had being unable to eat or swallow much at all for days. I knew in my gut I had damaged my oesophagus, but wasn’t sure why or how to fix it. There is really no where to turn for help with this, as no one recognises the treatment let alone problems with it.

    One time I swallowed the cap, I heard and more importantly, FELT a massive *bang* in my throat. My next dose, due an hour later, I capped it and put it on the counter for about 15 seconds and it exploded. I found pieces of it around my kitchen. Further experiments showed that indeed, it explodes. As it creates a gas, a VERY volatile explosive one at that, it only makes sense that it will explode.

    I have two issues with this.

    One is, I did damage to my throat with this method. It took quite a while to heal.

    Two is, WHY does Jim say to cap and swallow immediately when there will be very few times the contents will not explode or dissolve the cap BEFORE the three minutes, so people will be getting a half-done dose.

    This is not a body thing, as I tried to tell you before when advised to just listen to my inner voice etc. This is a problem in the execution of MMS in capsule. The method MUST be changed, or a child may get serious damage of their oesophagus (as an adult, the swelling is terrible, for a child, it would be intolerable).

    That aside, as I know no one here can change the method, I am wondering how on earth Jim hasn’t dealt with this already. It worries me in myriad ways for obvious reasons. Perhaps I’m the first messenger with this, and no one had noticed this flaw before because they didn’t do damage? Either way, it should be examined.

    Anyway, for those interested and who take the caps, there are two ways to do it, one is less efficient. If you have an eye dropper or syringe (I use a baby medicine syringe), the efficient method is: if you are on four drops for example, drop four drops of sodium chlorite (MMS) into a small glass and then four drops of citric acid at 50% strength, swirl and WAIT THE THREE MINUTES. Then suck the mixture into the dropper/syringe and drop it into the capsule and swallow. If it explodes after this point, at least it has completely reacted into chlorine dioxide and you’ll get the full dose.

    If you are without a dropper, drop your dose straight into the cap instead of the glass, eg, if you are on four drops, drop four of sodium chlorite into the cap, then four of the citric acid 50% and then WAIT WITH THE CAP *OFF* FOR THREE MINUTES. Then cap it and swallow it. It may still explode but the full three minutes has been reached, as above. This method isn’t as good as the acidic medium in the cap starts to dissolve the capsule, and you may find it hard to get the cap on it. I had this problem hence the syringe method.

    If it explodes, you want it to do that in your stomach, not on the way down. So wash the cap down with lots of water. Keep drinking! If you feel a lump or discomfort in your throat, it may be stuck there, and all going well it will just break down there. When my throat was injured I had even more trouble swallowing it past the swelling, so I often ate a mouthful of bread to push the cap down, as that can be more effective, water can just wash past a very lodged capsule.

    However, if anyone has any better info or reason why the other method is given, I’d like to know before I start my next round of MMS.

    Thanks kindly.

    1. Dear Mama,

      I can’t speak for Jim, but having seen how he goes about researching methods and protocols on himself before suggesting them to others, I can only imagine that he hasn’t experienced what you’ve experienced. He has said on numerous occasions, and I concur, that more research is needed, but it would be great to have a way of exchanging this information, comparing methodologies, seeing where the differences and similarities lie, and coming to a place of mutual understanding that ensures the best experience for all. Jim remains in Africa at this time, and it’s been a couple months since I’ve heard anything from him. However, I have copied your questions and comments, and will send them to him, and to the person who is taking over the MMS Newsletter, just in case she is in a better position to get something to him than me.

      He is really the best person to address your questions. Let’s see if we can get an answer.

      Regards,

      Adam…

      1. sagacious mama

        Thanks Adam. I’ll keep an eye out.

      2. Dear Mama,

        A response from Jim Humble (I didn’t send a description of your name or gender, just the message).

        Mr. no name, I certainly appreciate getting this information. Wow, that is certainly important data. I did that process for days and never had a single problem. There must be some impurities in some of the sodium chlorite, but your fix to the problem of letting the reaction take place before putting the stuff in the capsule is a perfect fix, and I am sending the information to my secretary to change that immediately. And thank you so much for your time, and I am so sorry about the suffering you had to experience.

        As soon as we get our training operation going properly so that we can afford to have people come for free, accept a free training course on me for $1000. Give it 3 months and then use this email to apply.

        Thanks again for your persistence in getting the data to me.

        Jim Humble

        He’s referring to a 2-week “MMS Fundamentals” course that will be conducted by Jim Humble in the Dominican Republic. The first one will be in April, and the cost, including lodging, is $1,000. So he’s inviting you to contact them in three months, reminding him of this correspondence, and your tuition will be waived. You’d just have to get there.

        Thanks again for your diligent tenacity.

        Regards,

        Adam…

      3. sagacious mama

        Thanks Adam. I feel honoured. I was wondering how I would prove it was me, then I figured you have my email address? I have been in communication with the foundation for another reason so that’s another way I suppose. James posted above regarding a 15 second wait and I used that method today. Quite easy, and no explosions so far.

    2. I read Mamas’ experience with using capsules. There is a very important part of the process which has not been addressed. I corresponded with Mr. Humble about this and he agrees. First, the 50% 1to1 mix is ready in 15 to 30 seconds. You don’t have to wait 3 minutes. If you do the gel cap will probably dissolve in your hand. Second, (from my experience) the recommended and authorized dropper cap will dispense drops directly into the cap very easily. When this is done, holding the cap in your fingers, swirl the cap around or shake it gently. Believe it or not the reaction will accelerate then calm down a bit (in less than 30 seconds). Now is the time to cap and swallow – with no hesitation. Follow immediately with as much water as you can drink (hey, it’s good for you) at least 6 to 8 ounces to insure the complete travel of the capsule to the stomach. Follow this method and you will be just fine. I have enjoyed this new process so much that I have developed a MMS Capsule Kit available on my eBay store. (I accidentally replied to a random comment. This is where I intended to make my comment)

      1. sagacious mama

        Hi James,

        Interesting. That would be great if it was quicker. I do find the colour and smell has intensified over the three minutes, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it does of course. What is the 15 to 30 seconds wait based on? Jim did tests with no acid and with acid using a testing strip. Has it been tested after 15 seconds to see if the same amount of ClO2 is in the solution as after 3 minutes?

        I found the capsule often doesn’t keep integrity for the full three minutes if dropped directly into it, but it would in this shorter time frame. I found the cap was more likely to explode in the first minute or so, however.

        My daughter took a cap last night due to a head cold and it got stuck in her throat and she ended up in pain again from it for about half an hour. She is starting to get upset when I mention taking a dose. She won’t drink it as a liquid though. I’m not sure what happened, as the caps don’t explode so readily after 3 minutes but hypothesised that the contents of the capsule burned her throat when they spilled out in the wrong place. My husband took a quick dose as a liquid last night also and burned his throat. But he didn’t dilute the liquid enough, in my opinion, and it was too strong. I recall Jim has felt a burning from the ClO2.

        Thanks for the info. 🙂

  185. Rondel

    Hello Adam,

    From what I understand – MMS2 when combined with water creates both Hypochlorous Acid and Calcium Hydroxide – The body uses the Hypochlorous Acid to aid the Immune System to fight pathogeans – but I’m wondering about the Calcium Hydroxide (also called ‘slaked lime’) – it’s considered a medium base and my question is how does the body react to this substance in the presence of Hypochlorous & Hydrochloric Acid naturally produced by the stomach?

    Thanks in advance,

    Rondel

  186. Jeanne

    Hi Adam,

    I talked with Jim over a year ago about MMS. I was extremely ill, and had just discovered that my home had very, very bad mold. I tested positive in a blood test also. Medical docs said that their medicine was too dangerous for the condition that I am in, and did not have any other suggetions other than moving which I had done. Jim mentioned for this instance clay. I did that, and have regained some of my health. The clay got me improvement, but I was wondering about MMS2. I am wondering if it would help get me over the top. I contacted Jim recently, but am unsure if I have his correct email address.

    I am at the point right now where I can get around a little bit for a couple of days, but then will go down for a week or two. I also have other health issues that I KNOW MMS1 will take care of if I can get the systemic fungus taken care of first, so I can take MMS1. I am thirty, and know I can get my life back, just need to get my body what it needs.

    Thanks so much for your time, Jeanne.

    1. Hi Jeanne,

      A number of people have spoken highly of MMS2’s effectiveness. I have not tried it personally. However, it follows Jim’s precedent with MMS1 in being what I will term, “biologically beneficial.” It augments and enhances biological efficiency, giving you a slight boost in beneficial acids that will help improvement metabolic function. Jim has called MMS2 a complement to the original MMS. It would also complement living clay.

      Jim has been mostly unavailable lately, so getting a direct response from him is virtually impossible for anyone. However, MMS1 will take care of ANYTHING that is anaerobic in your system, which includes fungi. I would also suggest that you look into Himalayan salt lamps for your living space. When light passes through them, they are natural negative ion generators that will discharge the mold in your environment. You can figure a radius of roughly 1 foot negative ion radiance, in a spherical envelope (if unobstructed by walls) for every pound of weight. So a 10 lb salt lamp would create a negative ion rich envelop that measures 20 ft in diameter, and 10 in height. Outputting 300 negative ions per each 9 nanoseconds, according to Clayton Nolte, who opened my eyes to how incredibly valuable Himalayan salt can be to our environmental, as well as physical health.

      Please spend time quietly VISUALIZING and IMAGINING your LIFE ALREADY back, and your BODY HAVING EVERYTHING IT NEEDS. Begin actively doing what you can NOW, KNOWING that the more you do what you love, the better life will get. If you do this EARNESTLY, it would help the effectiveness of everything you are taking, because YOU are the most powerful and important factor in YOUR recovery, and your ATTITUDE affects EVERYTHING.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  187. sagacious mama

    BTW, we are doing our doses every 2 to 3 hours, as per the new protocol.

    1. CdnFarmgirl

      Hey Sagacious Mama, greetings from Canada.

      Glad to hear that you are showing improvements from using MMS! Thought I’d share some of our family’s experiences, specifically with the smell/acidity.

      We first started using MMS in 2007, and stuck strictly to using 10% citric acid and 1 drop MMS to 5 drops citric acid. My husband and I each worked up to 15 drops twice a day. I achieved that in around 2 weeks, my husband in about a month (or maybe longer). I had done herbal detoxes twice a year for the last few years. My husband’s obvious problem areas were mild arthritis, farmer’s lung (congestion) and cold sores in the winter. He took longer to reach the goal that we had set for ourselves because all of those things needed to be addressed. Happily, all of the aforementioned symptoms/problems disappeared.

      I’ll be the first to admit that the gag reflex is incredibly strong with me when it comes to catching a whiff of the activated MMS :(. The way I got around it was to activate the MMS, cover it with a book, put my kitchen timer on and leave the room. When three minutes were up, I entered with my nose plug, filled the wine glass with the MMS up with water, drink it and then drink another glass of plain water. I would leave the room and I would keep breathing through my mouth, or keep my nose plugged for a few minutes afterwards. As we worked up to 15 drops MMS and 75(!) drops citric acid, I sometimes felt a burning sensation in my throat, very unpleasant, but just drank more water to flush it down.

      With all the information we have read now, we are now advising people to stick with the 10% citric acid (which is a very effective activator), but to use only 1 to 2 drops of c.acid to 1 drop of MMS. It results in a milder reaction, and a much less acidic solution to drink, especially as the drops of MMS go up. As well, we tell people that they should not feel pressured to go up to 15 drops. For many, 8 drops twice a day could well deal with many health issues.

      As Adam often recommends here, LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. Try to remain open and positive about your MMS protocol. If it becomes something you need to talk yourself into doing, you are defeating yourself. By the way, I have a wand pendulum and use it for testing occasionally (I used to use it alot more, but have learned to just trust my gut instincts lately). The dowsing instructor I had told me that successful results were achieved when questions were posed as unbiased and simply as possible, and when you trusted the results – no double-checking or second-guessing yourselft.

      This turned out to be fairly lengthy, sorry, but if you have more questions, I’ll be checking here occasionally.

      Best of luck,
      Julie

      PS. If you haven’t watched it yet, the Dan Bender interview with Andreas Kalcker has some great information in it. You can find it here on Adam’s site…

      1. sagacious mama

        Thanks for the response, CFG.

        I’m not in a good way. If I wasn’t intent on not stopping, I’d be stopping. I am now going to go to three times a day at the level I can take, which is 7 drops. At 8 drops I’m too sick. Although the constant feeling of fullness and blech in my stomach is awful, what concerns me most is this oesophagus issue. It seems to have spread right down the pipe to my stomach and I can feel it as a pain in my back now also. All night, in waves resembling peristaltic waves this squeezing sensation goes down the length of my oesophagus. When I try to swallow, I must take tiny bites and wait for it to go down, or it just gets stuck in the tightness and hurts. It is exactly that sensation of when you eat too much too fast and you get that horrible pain/tight feeling in the throat and kinda groan it away, or have a drink to make it pass. Nothing makes this pass, it just stays with me.

        It felt like something alive, moving the whole length of my oesophagus right down to the left hand side of my lower rib cage, but the size of it is impossible to be a living thing. I think I have damaged the pipe. I’m not sure how though. I haven’t thrown up once (but dear GOD I would love to sometimes).

        I would not take less citric acid because that would leave too much sodium chlorite, which isn’t something I’d want to ingest. I would rather do the full mix but just take less drops.

        I think this is part of the healing process for me (I also hope with that “think”). Everyone in my life is suggesting I quit, but I don’t feel the need. I’m listening to my body, and taking it slowly, although my body is telling me not to take it; I’ve also been told not to be fooled by that voice which is the voice of the pathogens – very confusing. Nausea and revulsion would mean most of us listening to our bodies would NOT do this. lol But we do because the voice beneath that voice says, keep going. I’m not so bad that I must stop, and Jim says not to stop, it is important not to stop. So I’ll drop back the dose and frequency, and report back how that’s going.

        I really appreciate you responding. Normally I’m a funnier, nicer person but I’m a bit “off” right now.

      2. CdnFarmgirl

        To Sagacious Mama (hope this shows up near your posts, or that you see it as a recent post)

        Using less citric acid will not increase the amount of sodium chlorite…it results in a lesser activation, much in the same way as lemon or lime juice will still activate the MMS (all you need is an acid), but it will not activate it as quickly or release as much chlorine dioxide. Adding 2 drops of unactivated MMS to a glass of water and swishing for a minute in your mouth will cause the acids present in your mouth to activate the MMS and deal with the plaque (aka bactera) in your mouth..you will actually get that “taste” as it becomes activated…and a mouth that feels great.

        I don’t know what the condition of your oesophagus was before you started MMS – did the problems start with MMS or are you using MMS to clear up problems? Regardless, please don’t push yourself, unless it is a life-threatening situation (which it doesn’t sound like to me?) Slow and steady will win the race…My personal experience has been that using even 4 drops twice a day with slower improvements is better than lots of quick dieoff and unpleasant side-effects.

        Are you doing anything to help eliminate the die-off (ie. taking living clay, drinking lots of water, taking epsom salt baths or infrared saunas) ? It is very important to help your body eliminate all the nasties MMS is dealing with.

        You’re in my thoughts, good luck!
        Julie

      3. sagacious mama

        Hi! I didn’t mean it creates more sodium chlorite, it simply leaves more in the solution if you use less acid. The acid causes the chemical reaction with the chlorite.

        The mouth, although it is meant to be acid, like the bladder/urine, like the urine it can become less acidic in health issues, even becoming very alkaline. For instance, a bladder infection causes alkaline urine, contrary to popular myth (and things like cranberry work by making the urine more acidic). I haven’t checked my mouth, but my urine is a little less acid than I prefer at the moment, chances are good my mouth is also. (I’m a naturopath)

        I have recently learned that unless I feel the need, I can stay at below the 7 drop threshold of mine, as you mentioned, as long as I take it more regularly, always below that nausea threshold. So I will do that today.

        I also learned something that my logic brain is struggling to accept. Apparently, if you take it with DMSO, there is no nausea but the full effect is still achieved. This article is fascinating: http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html

        I respect that site because I have found over the years that their other information is sound and it works.

        Humble also mentioned DMSO, although not in regards to nausea and side effects, just in regards to how it carries chemicals to a cancer site: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-lifethreatening.htm

        My problem with that is this: if the nausea and side effects are associated with die off or herxing or detox, WHY does that only happen with the oral application? In the first article I linked they say that it is because it is harsh on the stomach, and you avoid this harshness when taking it transdermally. They do, however, say that it is better to take it orally, even when doing DMSO, although they didn’t say why.

        I’m concerned that we are lead to believe we are suffering due to die off and so on, perhaps this is because they had no other explanation and to say that it is just nasty on the stomach wasn’t going to win many fans. Personally, I’d still take it, but I can see others wouldn’t. DMSO allows people to achieve an immediate high dose while they work their stomach and bowels into accepting higher oral doses.

        I’m not saying I agree on any one thing. I’m just saying it is very compelling and if I’m to recommend this to clients I will need to have this explained to me in a way I can take to clients. I have old people as clients often, I cannot give them answers like “listen to your body” or “the bugs are trying to fool you into not taking it”, not straight off and with some clients, not at all, ever. I must respect that, I do not sell myself as a faith healer. I need concrete science to back my shit up, regardless of my personal beliefs. So far, I have had much concrete science for this, EXCEPT as to why we get so sick taking it orally but not by any other means. One gets detox symptoms from other products no matter what route you take them.

        Thanks for any help in this matter.

      4. Clint

        Dear sagacious mama:

        I have read your past couple of posts.. and I have to wonder.. WHY aren’t you trying the drops every hour, (for 8 hours) and using 2 drops per capsule ?

        I feel this method will be WAY more effective for you than taking the MMS in 7 drops doses, 3x’s a day.

        The reason I am suggesting this, is because MMS (as you may know) ONLY last 60 – 90 minutes in the body at a time…. so, you’d be better off taking them every hour, on the hour, at smaller doses with less reaction… no ? . . . also cutting down on the acidity level per dose as well.

        And trust me.. the nausea doesn’t only happen with oral application ! I took MMS 1 thru IV into my veins for 2 weeks, 2x’s a day, and there was a few times I had nausea. Toxins don’t just exist in the gut.

        So, if you’re recommending this to clients, I’d HIGHLY recommend that you suggest the capsule method for taste reasons as well as better efficiency, and less reaction.

        just my 2c,

        Clint

      5. sagacious mama

        Hi Clint, thanks for responding 🙂

        My intention was to do hourly doses. However, I was too sick. That is the only reason they weren’t that frequent. I couldn’t bear the thought of another dose, I’d rather tear my own face off. So I waited, and by then, all I did was take 5 or so doses per day.

        So now I am on 4 drop doses with little reaction, so I can cope with this. I should be able to do this hourly. I hope to go higher than 4 drop doses, as I do not think my tapeworm cyst will be touched with small doses. Jim says not to go above 10 drops per hour, but I don’t think I’d get above 6. But nothing has touched this cyst, and it spread throughout my body, it is like fort knox. It uses tissue from my own body to encapsulate itself, creating an effective barrier. I may have to resort to DMSO to open the cyst to allow the ClO2 in.

        BTW, what is said about acid on these threads does not sound correct to my chemistry minded brain. There is a chemical reaction between sodium chlorite, a salt, and citric acid, which produces a chemical that is neither an acid nor a salt – chlorine dioxide. Even if acid was left in the fluid, the citric acid is used in tiny amounts. I have much more citric acid in a slice of cake or a glass of juice. Citric acid is used in cooking all the time.

        I would definitely, without questions, only recommend the capsules. I would not have been able to go beyond that first glass if I had to drink it.

        I have a question regarding my kids. Jim says 3 drops per 12 kgs of weight. My son reached that in hours and never once had a reaction. I kept him on that dose for a week at 4 times per day and then stopped. But his blocked nose at night remains. The dosages are rather unclear at the best of times, he needs to make a table instead of explanations as usually people reading such information are sick and find reading and comprehending harder than usual. I am a smart lass but at the moment, even I’m struggling to put a coherent sentence together at times. The one for children is even more ambiguous. Does he mean 3 drops per hour, per dose, per day… what? For my daughter, she has been at her maximum for over a week at three times a day but also no change in her nasal problems.

        I am feeling disheartened. At the same time, my ability to take the smaller dose has me believing I can perhaps actually do this.

      6. Clint

        Sag Mama:

        Well, if it was me… I would STOP the MMS treatments all together for 10 days…and let your system discharge what it needs to, and let it settle down from all the excitement.

        Then, what I might do, is try the MMS enemas before you go to bed, using 4 drops MMS to start off with… and keep it in as long as you can, and use the capsules the next day.

        I still say an 8 hour, 1capsule/hr, protocol of MMS drops (3 drops/capsule = 24 drops in 1 day) is the way to go.

        As for your child… I have to ask.. what’s his diet like ? You cutting out ALL dairy food ? Flour products ? Mucous producing foods ? Is he cutting out eating 4 hours before bedtime ?…. Is he drinking LOTS of water during the day ? ALL of the above will produce mucous in a child trying to heal.

        As for total drops for a child, I would think if it’s a small child.. it has to be played by ear… and to TOTAL drops per day for a child would be less than an adult’s total. That will be up to you to figure out, based on their reactions.

        Clint

  188. sagacious mama

    Wow. MMS is intense. Three of us in my family are on MMS and having various symptoms of detox. I some questions, if you have any time I’d love your opinion.

    Two of us take it in capsules because we simply wouldn’t be able to do it otherwise, we puke if we are anywhere near the smell of it. I found that 1 drop to 5 drops acid was eating a big hole in my budget of capsules so I started on the Humble protocol of 1 drop MMS to 1 drop 50% citric acid.

    My first, more urgent question, is regarding: I was doing the 1:5 ratio with no problems, I would fill the capsule, cap it immediately, wait the full three minutes and then swallow. My daughter puked immediately after swallowing one once and the capsule had ruptured, from that point on, I waited the full time in case it ruptured on the way down the throat. However, with the 1:1 ratio, not only is the mixture very dark, almost brown in colour as it mixed in the capsule, but the first time I capped it immediately, it literally exploded a minute later.

    It dawned on me that this is a poor suggestion on Humble’s site as it is a gas, and a gas cannot be contained in that manner. So now I wait the full three minutes with an uncapped capsule in my hand (it has become quite a chore to do three people!), cap it, then swallow it quickly and hope the explosion in my gut isn’t noticeable (it was once, lol)

    Sooo, my first question is wtf? lol Is this ok? Have others reported this? I don’t want to stop taking it and have no where else to ask about this.

    Also, as I needed the bottle to do the 50% citric acid solution, I am using the same 1:1 for one of us, who prefers to drink it. Is this ok? And if it is, why are we told to do a 10% solution? I figure that must be so it is easy to explain to the majority who may or may not substitute lemon juice occasionally.

    I have had slight to strong nausea off and on since 4 drops, I am going very slowly, I back off if I go up and get sick. My daughter has thrown up a couple of times but otherwise has crept to 5 drops quite well over 5 days. I am still stuck on 6 drops and still sick in the stomach for at least half an hour after the dose. The main problem I’ve noticed lately is my throat feels shut tight. I can’t swallow very well and the pill feels stuck. I eat a little bread or apple (the apple helps the nausea) to push it down but today the tight feeling is constant, like my body is refusing to swallow. I’m not getting enough water in due to my sore stomach, so I wake up a little hungover from my body struggling to detox.

    The good news is my nose is totally clear, my children’s skin is totally clear, a stye in my eye that I had for three years is gone and a lump under my right eye lid is also going away very fast (I don’t even know WHAT that lump was, and I’m not sure I want to know). I am having no cystic pain in my pelvis which is usually strong and constant at this time of the month. And it has only been five days. I look forward to my blood work and scans, which I won’t get until I know I have exhausted all MMS avenues and given my body the best chance to kill the bast….ds.

    I do muscle testing, I read Power vs Force about five years ago and was deeply impacted by it. Even my job entails muscle testing. But I am not very good at it on my own body. I have found some answers to be wrong, and learned not to trust the answers from then on. I practiced with writing down different names, folding them, and then muscle testing which one was mine, and I was almost always right… but almost isn’t good enough. I’m sure you know what I mean.

    My husband bought me a very expensive, professional wand pendulum that I intend to learn to use, however, I will not have it perfected while on this treatment. So I’m on my own. Thoughts?

  189. sha

    Adam
    We are all adults here and I DO NOT Like people being condescending to me. The reason why I asked the question again was because I did not see your reply not because the answer wasnt satisfactory. It is not like the system puts the answers in order it bounces around and I did not get an email reply that anyone had answered.

    1. Sha,

      Indeed we are adults, and I addressed your question in the same spirit as I address all others. I noticed that your second question was on another thread, but that doesn’t help me know if you read the first, or even if you did, if it was satisfactory. My point in taking the time to answer, as best I can WHEN I can, questions that are asked, is not in condescension, but simply to inform. Given the way it played out, I am entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours. Since we’ve both posted our takes on that, I trust we can now move on.

      Again, best wishes.

      Adam…

      1. anonymousone

        I used sha because I forgot this original name I posted under but what other thread are you talking about adam? Is there more than one board. I dont understand how this blog works because the questions and answers do not pop up in order its like things bounce around and is quite confusing.

  190. sagacious mama

    Hi… quick question. I started the MMS today and tried it in rice milk but it made it fizzy, like soda. I assume this is not a good thing. However, I preferred the taste as did my children. I figure it reacted with the supplemental minerals they put in it, a calcium carbonate I think was one of them. No good?

    I have capsules but I am afraid they won’t break down before the clo2 does. Is this possible? Will the gas remain ok in the capsule for up to half an hour? (I threw up about half an hour after taking a herbal capsule once and the capsule was intact, I’d have to assume this might be the case with MMS in capsule form)

    1. Greetings Mama,

      I don’t know what to tell you about the fizzy rice milk. I don’t know if that is “good” or not. MMS (chlorine dioxide) doesn’t create new toxic chemical cocktails when it interacts with other chemicals like chlorine does, so there’s no “harm” being done in that respect. If you are not familiar with applied kineseology, otherwise known as muscle testing, I’d suggest that you do some research on the subject and see if you can get yourself to trust the answers that you get to your questions. I first learned of muscle testing when I read Power vs. Force — The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior, by Dr. David R. Hawkins, which was first published in 1995. You will find believers and non-believers, but the only answer that is relevant to you, is the one YOU resonate with. I won’t try to sell you on what decision is best for you.

      If you can’t trust yourself, who can you trust? This is one of those places where we really only need to go the shortest distance to get our own best answer.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  191. shaboingboing

    Thank you God! after two months I finally made it to 15 drops at least once today. I would like to know if any one has any idea if MMS stops viral shedding? I have no OB’s but wondering about the all important shedding.

    1. sha

      Anyone want to tackle this question please. I believe it is quite important.

      copied from OP
      I would like to know if any one has any idea if MMS stops viral shedding? I have no OB’s but wondering about the all important shedding

      1. Perhaps the response I wrote last night wasn’t satisfactory, yet it stands. I thought the answer was implicit. When the human body is in balance, viral shedding, if it has been a problem, will cease. It’s that simple. Since it acts on anaerobic and low pH materials that are encountered, MMS (chlorine dioxide) can help restore microbial and chemical balance. That’s all. Does it “fight” viral shedding? No. WHEN the body is in balance, viral shedding will stop, simply because in a healthy state, the body does not produce or support viruses to eventually shed. If viral shedding is occurring, then the body in question is not in balance, YET.

  192. anonymousone

    Outbreak
    After starting mms for a few days I got a herpes OB it did not form a blister or lesion just a cluster which lasted for a week and was painful did that happen to anyone else. This was in November and I have not had an OB since. I spoke to someone on Youtube and he told me to drink mms with 6 drops 3 x a day for two weeks but I am on my third week and went up to 10 drops. It took me weeks to get there because 9 drops was killing me. I found a trick is to sip the mms for a 1/2 and it diminishes the nausea. I tried taking this with water and man did the smell and taste ever make me puke! I was on my tippy toes I was puking so hard. I wish I had taken mms more often when the virus was out. I am trying to get an OB so I can attack the hell out of it.

    1. Clint

      Dear Anonymous one:

      If your not able to handle the taste, then I suggest using the MMS 1 in a Capsule: (please see here):

      http://jimhumble.biz/biz-taste.htm

      If you’re trying to get rid of herpes. then using the MMS 1 & MMS 2 Protocol TOGETHER would be your best bet !

      I posted this a while back and will post again for you here:

      First though, please read up on Jim humbles New info on MMS 2:

      http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

      Here is a protocol and friend and I made for using MMS 1 & 2 together.
      (Best of luck !!)

      Day #1 (with 2 Capsules of MMS2)

      MMS1 dose = 2 drops MMS + 10 drops Lemon or Citric Acid (Liquid form) 
      MMS2 dose = 1 Capsule only (in powder form)

      IMPORTANT:
      For your 1st. day, take only 2 – MMS2 Capsules (as seen below)
      Then, the following day(s), increase to 3 or 4 capsules of MMS2.

      Also, you will get better results if you eat smaller meals, and eat lite …so as not to interfere with the MMS in your system.

      ==================================================

      (with 4 capsules of MMS2)

       6:00 A.M       Eat med. size breakfast.

       8:00 A.M.    • Take MMS1 – (2 drop dose) 2 drops of MMS1 and 10 drops of Citric Acid or  Pure Lemon Juice – mix the two and set a timer for 3 minutes.  
        – Place in a capsule, or add 1/3 glass of water and drink. 
        – If additional water is needed, wait 15 minutes and drink a half of glass.

       9:00 A.M.    • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      10:00 A.M    • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
         • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)
                      Note: If you start experiencing nausea reduce the MMS1 to one drop.

      11:00 A.M.   • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      11:30 A.M.   Eat a lite lunch.

      12:00 Noon  • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
         • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)

      1:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 – (2 drop dose)

      2:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
        • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)

      3:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      4:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
        • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)
      ==================================================
      Also, you will get better results if you eat smaller meals, and eat lite …so as not to interfere with the MMS in your system.

      Eat dinner about 6 – 6:30 P.M. and ingest nothing after that except water.

      Start again 6:00 A.M next morning.  

      It would be ideal to start the program Friday thru Sunday. 

      1. anonymousone

        Hi Clint I had another user name because I forgot this one but thank you for giving me that information! I will pass on the capsules because it looks like too much work. I have made it to 15 drops but have not been able to take it three times per day but I dont think I really need that so I will do 8 drops twice daily and 15 at bedtime

  193. anonymousone

    Hi
    taking mms for three months for a virus and would like to know if the virus is killed if the antibodies would die off also?

  194. sagacious mama

    Just posting this as a reply as I can’t get my message to follow at the end of the discussion. I’m sagacious mama, about 18 posts above this.

  195. Sagacious Mama

    Just checking something. It seems my post did not go in date order, it kinda positioned itself randomly in the middle.

  196. Sagacious Mama

    Thank you for this brilliant site.

    I have a splenic cyst that even the doctors have diagnosed as hydatid (worm, larval stage). I have had it for at least 5 years, and it is slowly growing, I have about another 3 years before it classifies as large enough to be such a risk of ruture that they will want to remove my whole spleen (greater than 5cm). I do NOT want this to happen, obviously.

    I have MMS arriving any day now, however I have a reservation – cystic rupture. There have been cases of cyst rupture while on conventional treatment with things like albendazole (anti-parasitic drug), but I cannot find any literature for same with oxygen therapies.

    I have cysts that rupture on my ovaries now and again, which is no big deal but a ruptured spleen will be the end of me, it is difficult to save someone from a ruptured spleen. (I have even considered taking my first dose at the hospital so I’m close lol) It isn’t just related to the contents of the cyst causing peritonitis, it is also due to the haemorrhage – the spleen is nothing like the ovary so rupture is different there.

    Therefore, my ordinarily experimental self is at pause on this one, as I couldn’t find any info on cysts shrinking (which would have at least made the risk worth it), until reading here and the woman who reported a kidney cyst shrinking. Plus the risk of rupture is there if the oxidation shifts the capsule of the cyst enough to rupture it. I would love to know if ordinarily the MMS would just gently shrink the cyst but logic tells me that no matter how I shake this, at some point it will have to attack the capsule, and my spleen is at risk.

    It is already at risk of rupture just for existing, of course, hence I will risk this but as a mother of young kids, I’m not sure now is a good time. I seem trapped either way. I guess I’m hoping for a story or two on successful spleen cyst shrinkage, but it just so happens that splenic cysts are the most rare. Sigh.

    I will be documenting the progress of this as evidence, I have a doctor that does any test I request and I have many scans of my cysts. It would be a rock solid success story.

    1. Greetings Mama,

      Nature has a wonderful way of taking care of itself, in effect, taking care of you… that is, if we trust it. We have grown so accustomed to the idea that “diseases” simply happen, that we don’t appreciate that they happen for a reason, nor do we look at behaviors, habits, or environmental factors that might contribute to their development. If you have a hydatid, it means that some aspect of your behavior, environment, or habits, is contributing to its formation. The behavior, environment or habit takes you out of balance, which creates an environment within your body that is conducive for parasitic formation. A body that is in balance, meaning that it has a sufficient amount of nutrients, oxygen, and minerals, will not support parasite growth.

      So in addition to MMS, you might look at remineralization, perhaps dissolving a couple Himalayan salt crystals under the tongue each day, as well as ensuring sufficient balanced and energized (i.e., structured) water intake.

      While MMS will cause a breakdown of the parasite’s cell wall (assuming that it is acidic), you might also consider using calcium bentonite clay in conjunction with MMS. Whereas MMS oxidizes low-pH molecules via an electron exchange, living clay, which holds a high negative charge, will attract all that is positively charged to it (including parasites). Being highly absorbing, the clay will draw positively charged (low pH) objects to itself, somewhat like velcro. The beauty of living clay is in its natural properties of containment. It provides an attractive magnetic force that draws pathogens and parasites to it, without risking debris flowing loose in the bloodstream.

      If you’re going to document your journey, please be willing to take and factor in, a very honest look at yourself… taking into consideration the factors that I mentioned earlier (behavior, environment, and habits (smoke, drink, exercise, etc.), as well as psychological habits, such as, whether you are quick tempered, for example, or easily excitable, prone to worry, obsessive, etc. No judgment is connected to any of these proclivities, or any others that might apply. However, everything is contributory, and a change in this area can also change the outcome.

      I hope these observations are helpful, and wish you the best in your normalization.

      Adam…

      1. sagacious mama

        Thank you. I have taken in all you have suggested. I resonate with it. (my husband also liked what you said, esp about easily excitable and prone to worry lol)

        I have a little confusion as to how to take it. I have read at Jim’s site (dot biz) and it seems the dosage is 1 drop. Then 2 hours later, 2 drops. Increasing by one drop every two hours. This is the kind of attack I prefer, reaching the icky zone faster. However, I keep reading people doing the protocol twice a day. Jim mentioned that it has a short life, so it is better to do more frequent doses. What is your experience with this? I will reach “nausea point” at some stage from what I know of other’s accounts, does it matter which avenue I take to reach that? ie, every two hours or twice a day.

        Then, once nausea point is reached, do I back off by one drop (or whatever it takes to be just below that point) and stay there until I feel brave enough to step it up another drop or will I have some kind of sign that I can try the higher dose again?

        If I am right so far, is it fair to say that after I have climbed in this way to the 15 drops and have been on that for a week, I can then step off the intense protocol and go to a maintenance?

        I also wanted to mention that I am a naturopath and I deal with many AIDS cases. I have some success stories for MMS. This is why I am attracted to using it, from the feedback I have gotten from my own clients. I generally don’t jump on any therapy without genuine and solid feedback and this is one of the very few that had that. Just thought you might like to know that, as positive feedback is such a precious thing. It doesn’t get much better than a cured AIDS case.

      2. sagacious mama

        btw, if the two hourly protocol is done by some, is that followed until 15 drops every two hours is reached… that sounds like a lot per day. When is the two hourly dosage schedule reduced to two or three times daily?

  197. David

    Hello Adam,

    great site! How can I embed the trailer into my website. You currently don’t offer a method of embeding it ;-( Most video offer a code to embed the relevant video into other site. Or did I miss somthing?

    Best regards
    David

    1. Hi David,

      I’d be happy to accommodate. I will send you an email with the embedding code for the copy that is on YouTube. Or you can visit the link directly and get the embedding code. Here it is… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMJMvzQ_oRI

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  198. Alex

    Hi Adam,
    Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge and for providing us with a means to exchange information and experience.

    I have a quick question: Generally, it is not advisable to use MMS with vitamin C. However, if you take MMS with DMSO, bypassing stomach, will it be safe to take large doses of Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C that is much more potent than the generic brand. I would also appreciate it if you could share your experience and perhaps advise on using MMS with DMSO. I’ve read Jim’s books, but there were some conflicting protocols around, so your comments and clarification will be highly appreciated. Thanks. Alex

    1. Greetings Alex,

      When you’ve demonstrated that you’re willing to venture beyond mere MMS, but to MMS with DMSO and to taking massive doses of not just vitamin C, but Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C, I believe it is time to suggest that you ask your body what’s best for it, and when, and learn to trust what it tells you. If you don’t know about muscle testing, then it’s time to learn. You can also use a pendulum to ask the question coming from your heart, sincerely knowing that the right answer for you will be given, and then being willing to follow through with the advice that you receive. I am familiar with the protocol that blends MMS and DMSO, having used it one or two times. However, I didn’t have any particular objective in mind beyond seeing how it all worked together. After reading Dr. Morton Walker’s book, DMSO: Nature’s Healer, I gained far greater appreciation as to how it could be used — on its own, with MMS, and with other chemicals — to one’s benefit.

      A word or two on what you call conflicting protocols. In my opinion, MMS understanding and use is yet in its infancy. As such, it is evolving rapidly. For example, when I produced my documentary, the main goal was to get to 15 drops, possibly two or three times in one day. That was the main approach. Now it’s fewer drops taken multiple times per day. There are topical applications, as well as induction via footbath or full body bath. There are variations in activators. While citric acid predominates, lemon or lime juice are still being used. I’ve heard of malic acid being used by some people, as well as 50% solutions of citric, which would allow for a 1:1 radio of MMS to activator. New options or variations will continue to emerge, such as the new product called ASEA, which is an MLM that is producing a product that is similar to MMS (I’m not yet sure of what the nuances are), to which some amazing transformations have been attributed.

      Amazing transformations have been attributed to plain old MMS use too. The beauty of it all is that people are getting the message that an option is available that can help them. We’re still learning how. You can add to our understanding as you evolve your own.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  199. georgpaule

    thanks clint. can you suggest site to purchase MMS?

    1. Clint

      Yes,

      I usually order from Jim’s friend Dennis:

      https://cart.mmsdr.com/

      I might suggest a MMS Travel Kit to start off (2oz. each of MMS and Citric Acid) $20 and see how that works for you.

      Please be sure to go to Jim Humbles site and read as MUCH as you can George, about how to take it…what to expect..etc…

      http://jimhumble.biz/index.htm

      good luck,

      Clint

      1. I believe that the best single purchase that you can make when buying your first bottle of MMS would be at http://www.themmskit.com
        The kit has everything you need to get started.

  200. georgpaule

    hoping for a response to my earlier post. i noticed it was placed before a june reply you made. my post was made on dec 22. hope you can find it.

  201. georgpaule

    in the interest of finding the actual truth please check out this site (an alternative opinion about MMS). i have no vested interest other than to find out as much information as i can BEFORE i make the decision to use or not to use.
    http://www.inoneminutecure.com/mms.htm

    in my moments of truth-seeking i have found it of great value to explore any subject from as many different angles of perspective as possible. this safeguards against reading/adopting only that which agrees with any pre-formed hypotheses or belief system i may have constructed.

    in my world there are no sacred cows.

    namaste

    1. Clint

      georgpaule:

      With all due respect… if you believe ONE word on that website… then, you must might as well believe that there were really weapons of “Mass Destruction”… believe in Santa Clause, etc…. by looking at just the quality of that website, you can tell it is bogus !… as well as them saying that “Sodium Chlorite is Chlorine” … complete BS.

      I have put MMS in my veins via IV bag…. drank 15 drops a 3x’s a day for 3 weeks…. and felt better after for doing so.

      Your right….. there are no Sacred cows…. but… I can say (as God as my Witness) that MMS is one of THE safest treatments out there to take for ones illness…. a LOT safer than Chemo Therapy, Radiation, etc…

      Don’t let Fear be your guide.. 😉

      Clint

    2. George,

      Thank you for sending this. The first sentence begins the deception, since there is absolutely NO MLM (Multi Level Marketers) involvement connected to the marketing or distribution of MMS. To call its sale “the most horrific fraud pulled on the alternative health community in nearly a hundred years” means to me, given the bold faced LIES that are being proffered there to sell a $40 book, that MMS is really starting to be embraced and accepted by a new, much larger segment of the population. Calling MMS “chlorine” is another fundamental LIE, as much so as saying that magnesium chloride is toxic. Chloride (Cl2) exists in the body in many combinations, without which we could not live. Chlorine dioxide (ClO2), which is the net product that is generated from using MMS (sodium chlorite), has behavior characteristics that are fundamentally different than chlorine.

      Best wishes in your search and discovery.

      Adam…

  202. Nancy

    Hi … Have learned a lot from other’s experiences and from Adam’s knowledge. Thank you.

    I notice that Howie never returned to post anything further about his liver problems.

    Comment about “Oxy-Powder”.. researched it and found out the main active ingredient is simple Magnesium Oxide. (The remaining ingredients are also basic.. citric acid, germanium etc..
    I used Mag.Ox for my husband’s constipation problems as Parkinsons disease progressed for several years. It works~!!!! But it is a very low cost item when bought in bulk.

    The Oxy-Powder is sold at a frightening markup!

    Perhaps after checking out the Mag Ox one would find that it would do exactly the same thing.
    Nancy

  203. Samantha

    Hi,
    I haven’t posted here since Sept. 21, 2009 and it’s now Dec. 3. I haven’t posted because I didn’t want to send a discouraging message about MMS because I so believe in the powerful untapped abilities the human body has to heal itself as well as the importance of what MMS could possibly mean to helping us all to heal … however, I remember after reading this ENTIRE blog there were sadly few entries where people came back to post their results. It isn’t bad but it isn’t the story I’d hoped for and it’s only our story. I promised I would return to share it so here it is:

    In Sept my 4 year old, my husband, my mom, & myself All got the swine flu. I was taking my acupuncturist’s herbs and feeling better after a couple days when my child became ill. I stopped the herbs and began taking MMS because a child his age won’t drink the nasty tea from an acupuncturist so I figured we’d all jump in to the MMS together.

    Well we used the dark grape juice that Jim Humble suggests and we began the protocol for flu or swine flu of one drop and hour and upping a drop every hour up to the max per body weight. We were very careful, drank only water filled with love & intention of healing, etc, etc. Well, I wished I’d stayed on the herbs because that was helping me immensely. I believe I would’ve continued to improve had a gone that route but we needed to try the MMS so it was an optimum time to use it to help us through the swine flu. The MMS did not help us. It didn’t shorten the duration, or lessen the symptoms. We all got very sick and stayed very sick for a while.

    We still have the MMS in the refrigerator and we still believe in it as well as Jim Humble’s findings. This is just our story with the swine flu and MMS. I do believe I’m doing the right thing to post our results even though so much of what we do to heal ourselves is through intention & the power of belief. Like I said in the beginning, it’s why I never posted our results because I didn’t want to instill doubt … but this is our story.

    1. clint

      Samantha,

      We appreciate your honesty…

      I am curious… have you tried Jim’s new protocol using MMS1 & MMS2 TOGETHER ?

      I read your post a few times, and didn’t see a mention in there of using MMS2.

      Here’s a protocol that we have used :

      6:00 A.M       Eat med. size breakfast.

       8:00 A.M.    • Take MMS1 – (2 drop dose) 2 drops of MMS1 and 10 drops of Citric Acid or Pure Lemon Juice – mix the two and set a timer for 3 minutes.  
        – Place in a capsule, or add 1/3 glass of water and drink. 
        – If additional water is needed, wait 15 minutes and drink a half of glass.

       9:00 A.M.    • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      10:00 A.M    • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
         • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)
                      Note: If you start experiencing nausea reduce the MMS1 to one drop.

      11:00 A.M.   • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      11:30 A.M.   Eat a lite lunch.

      12:00 Noon  • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) 

      1:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 – (2 drop dose)

      2:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
        • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)

      3;00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      4:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .

      Eat dinner about 6 – 6:30 P.M. and ingest nothing after that except water.
           
      —————————————————————————————-

      Day#2 (with 4 capsules of MMS2)

       6:00 A.M       Eat med. size breakfast.

       8:00 A.M.    • Take MMS1 – (2 drop dose) 2 drops of MMS1 and 10 drops of Citric Acid or Pure Lemon Juice – mix the two and set a timer for 3 minutes.  
        – Place in a capsule, or add 1/3 glass of water and drink. 
        – If additional water is needed, wait 15 minutes and drink a half of glass.

       9:00 A.M.    • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      10:00 A.M    • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
         • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)
                      Note: If you start experiencing nausea reduce the MMS1 to one drop.

      11:00 A.M.   • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      11:30 A.M.   Eat a lite lunch.

      12:00 Noon  • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
         • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)

      1:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 – (2 drop dose)

      2:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
        • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)

      3;00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose)

      4:00 P.M      • Take MMS1 (2 drop dose) followed by . . .
        • Take 1 MMS2 Capsule (drink 2 glasses of water with it)
      ==================================================

      Eat dinner about 6 – 6:30 P.M. and ingest nothing after that except water.

      Start again 6:00 A.M next morning.  

      It would be ideal to start the program Friday thru Sunday. 

      1. Gilgamesh

        In my opinion, the best way to use MMS is, use structured water. All juices have vitamin C in them, and if you put 10 drops of MMS in it, 6 – 7 drops of MMS could be just neutralized by the vitamin C.

    2. Hi Samantha,

      You are indeed doing the right thing to share your experience. That is all anyone has done here. Your wonderfully thought out and presented feelings are most welcome. I have often said that MMS should not be seen as *the* answer to anything, but an answer that can yield great benefits, especially compared to the options offered by predominant medicine.

      As powerful as it is in its ability to assist the body, MMS cannot supersede the power of our beliefs. IF we believe that something outside of ourselves has the power do us harm (e.g., swine flu), calling for something outside of ourselves to “save” us from that harm (e.g., MMS), then we’re missing a great opportunity to know ourselves.

      Few people will acknowledge that they allow themselves to be affected by the idea of various diseases. They subscribe to the idea that said conditions are invaders which we assume have malevolent intent (or effect), against which they must “fight” or “protect” themselves, and are incapable of vanquishing on their own. In so doing, they open their lives up to any number of potential outcomes.

      However, the dramas that we take ourselves through are all internal in their origin and makeup. And we’re coming to a time of realization, not from the standpoint that we’re doing something “wrong,” but that we have the power, when used consciously, to do and experience so much more than we’ve reckoned. When there is no fear of swine flu, then it will have little effect, if any. This doesn’t mean you won’t experience what seems like the swine flu, especially if taking some “time off” is warranted, and you won’t permit yourself to do so any other way than to become “sick.”

      I am curious as to what kind of experience you, mom, your husband and son had together during that time. Did it bring you together? Did you bond in a beneficial way? Did the infirmity serve a purpose that enhanced your appreciation, love, and closeness, each for the other? If it did in any way, that would be far more important, in the long term, than the “swine flu.” MMS won’t take a beneficial experience from you, even at the risk of your questioning its efficacy.

      This doesn’t diminish your experience either.

      Thank you for sharing.

      Adam…

  204. mmsjunkie

    I have a question for anyone.

    There is a SUPER long story behind it all, but I will give you the quick version.
    I have (or so I think) Celiac Disease. I have not been tested. I have had crazy symptoms for a little over a year – been to so many doctors and specialists. Nobody has hinted at this. I sort of stumbled across it myself. When I stop eating wheat, I feel MUCH better. When I eat it, I feel like I’m going to die.
    Since all of my micro-villi are destroyed within my small intestine – am I able to absorb this? I have worked up to 7 drops with capsules. And have seen no difference in me. I know that this may not cure Celiac Disease as it is an auto-immune issue. But I think it may be triggered by a certain virus – and this may dismiss it from my system.
    As you may know, there are two ‘basic’ ways to absorb to your blood from your intestines. Osmosis (based on concentrations from one area to another) or by a chemical reaction that takes place through the micro-villi. So, can anyone tell me how this is absorbed? If I need my micro-villi to absorb this – I will not be able to. See what I mean? The only way would be intravenously. If I don’t need the micro-villi and can absorb through osmosis – then it should be hopping in my system…but have seen no results.
    Here is another goofy fact. The 2nd day I was taking MMS, I hit 2 drops. And I noticed that my Plantars wart on the bottom of my foot was beginning to die. I was shocked. I have been trying to get rid of it for 9 years. It formed about 6 or 8 black dots within the core of the wart. That was all that happened. Even after hitting 7 drops, the wart has re-established and shows no discoloration. So, this makes me THINK that we need micro-villi to absorb. Maybe I’m wrong.
    Anyone have any word of wisdom? Sorry for taking so much space.
    Have a great day!

    1. CdnFarmgirl

      In response to your celiac disease and allergy to wheat: My mother-in-law was tested for being allergic to wheat and had switched to a gluten free diet (spelt, rice, etc). After taking MMS (not sure for how long, probably a few months), her food allergies disappeared, and she now can eat wheat products without any discomfort. The MMS has helped with many such “allergies” with other friends of ours, too.

      1. Hello,

        MMS will likely not do anything for celiac disease, and free chlorine is not healthy for the human intestine. The reason that it appears to eliminate allergies is that it suppresses the immune system, part of which is in the intestine.

        Jonathan

      2. Clint

        Jonathan,

        80,000 PLUS people CURED of Malaria, as well as thousands currently reporting miraculous cures from MMS….. and you come up with a ridiculous statement like this ?

        Obviously your new to the scene,

        geeez !

        C

    2. Dear Junkie,

      Someone told you that ALL your micro-villi within your small intestines, and you believed them. Did you do a personal inventory yourself to confirm? Also, did this person tell you that your body has no ability to regenerate micro-villie, or was that an assumption? I ask that that you consider spending some time communicating directly with your body, visualizing the gradual return of your micro-villi. Certainly increase your intake of enzyme containing, or enhancing foods, and give your body the mineral building blocks that it needs to function properly again. Those building blocks will contain life, which is the only way that life can actually be sustained.

      The body is really an amazing design, and it has many abilities that we have yet to fathom. If you hydrate adequately, with structured or energetically infused (which is synonymous) water, mineralize (nourish) and actively detoxify, the body will know what to do to restore function and keep you healthy.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  205. I had posted over a year ago about MMS – after trying it for a long time and at increased doses (240 drops 2 times a day with no “sick feeling”), I had no improvement for my HEP C, various herpes viruses, etc. Did nothing for me.

    What did work was LDN, or Low Dose Naltrexone – it knocked my HCV viral load down from over a million to 18,000 in 6 months. Liver function tests are normal.

    Along with gluten/dairy free diet and LDN, my hep c, fibromyalgia, IBD, chemical sensitivities and all other viruses are very much improved. Hope the MMS works for some of you folks – did not work for me.

    Nola Chris

  206. Fred

    “This is important because relative to chlorine dioxide, all pathogens are electron donors. Conversely, all healthy tissue and aerobic microorganisms are unaffected by chlorine dioxide.”

    Wow. That really is miraculous. How exactly is this molecule supposed to tell the difference between a pathogen and an ‘aerobic microorganism’?

    1. Hi Fred,

      It’s part of the overall miracle of physical life, and done by electromagnetic charge, which creates relationships of attraction or repulsion. Anaerobic molecules hold a positive charge (+), while aerobic ones are negative (-). When chlorine dioxide comes in contact with a pathogen, by way of attraction, up to five (5) of the pathogen’s electrons will be attracted to chlorine dioxide molecule. This is electromagnetic affinity in action, and how the dance of all physical life is played out.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  207. Elaine

    Hi, is this forum going to continue? Looks like no activity since 9/9/09. I have loved reading all the information that is offered here, and it has been very encouraging, especially when there are uncomfortable times during the process of cleaning.

    Adam, thanks so much for all you love and support to everyone here.
    Elaine

  208. Kirtis

    At the risk of being overly dramatic, I can say with certainty that October 25, 1985, is my own personal “Day of Infamy.” On that day, I was escorted into the doctor’s office and told that I was HIV+. Everything I knew about myself or thought I knew about myself was thrown into a whirlwind. The only alternative left to me was to come out and face HIV infection, stigma, and discrimination. I thus made a personal refusal and determination not to succumb to stigma.

    There is social stigma even today that we people with HIV/AIDS suffer from society, there is also self-stigma that comes from within. These two are intertwined, but self-stigma is more difficult to recognize and to deal with. In fighting self-stigma and now a major health problem, the strategies which have helped me were the encouraging support of interactive self-help programs and an institute named “Hippocrates Health Institute”. These have been a major factor in empowering me to openness and taking responsibility of healing myself. This is where Hippocrates Health Institute enter into my life and saved my life.

    Over twenty years ago, I had a choice to do what my doctor suggested, which was to take AZT or to go to alternative treatments. Since all of my friends were dying taking AZT, which was the only conventional treatment at the time, it only made sense to me to go the alternative route. I went to a nutritionist and she recommended Hippocrates Health Institute. There is no question in my mind that this was the right choice.

    When entering Hippocrates I had no energy and was ridden with shingles on my back. I could barely walk up the small set of stairs, but as I took that first step into the institute, I knew I was in the right place. After the first week I was already gaining strength and the shingles were fading away. Between the raw live foods and group support, my body quickly turned onto the path of healing.

    I took home with me the program that Hippocrates teaches you and it became my new lifestyle. I built my own grow house and grew my own sprouts and wheat grass. I had all kinds of energy and was back working eight hour days. I did this for 10 years and was healthy as a bull. Then I made the mistake of falling off the wagon. I guess I became fearful and started to listen to my doctor.

    This is where things started to go down hill for me. My doctor told me there was new conventional treatments with few side affects. It would slow down the virus and the virus would be undetectable in the blood. I bought it! Well he was right the virus did go undetectable but what else was going on with these drugs in my body. Everything that I had learned at Hippocrates I had put on the back burner. I began to eat whatever I wanted again and got into the recreational drug scene (very bad choice). I was now heading down that path of my old lifestyle.

    The health that I was enjoying when I was on the Hippocrates program was now being compromised. My body weight was dropping and I now noticed a lump on my neck. I was then told by my doctor that I now have Hodgkin’s Disease. Yes the “Big C” word, cancer! Once again I am faced with not but one disease but now two, HIV and cancer. I was now in third stage of cancer and chemotherapy being my only choice, so I thought. I had to make a decision, a quick decision, and I went with chemotherapy. Once again fear won over! After five months of chemotherapy, there was hardly anything left of my six foot frame of a body. I went from 195 lbs. down to 125lbs. in three months. I had four more treatments of chemotherapy to go and not a ounce of energy left. I told my doctors no more chemotherapy. I was then told that the cancer might come back if I did not go through with all of the treatments. I told my doctor I would take that chance. I moved back to my home in the Adirondack mountains and began applying back into my life what I had previously learned at Hippocrates.

    My cancer has now been in remission for now going on five years and I am healthy as a bull again! Thanks to my experiences and knowledge from Hippocrates Health Institute. I am back training at the gym five days a week and back to 195lbs of lean muscle!

    I had to become a survivor. I had to move away from all negative feelings and tendencies if I was to lead a healthy and free life. I made a conscious effort to move away from fear, ignorance, stigma, and discrimination. I had to become master of my life and be in charge. There is one very important thing I can share and that is to take responsibility for your own health and healing. Listen to what your body is telling you. No one else can do that for you. There is so many pieces to the puzzle in healing yourself and one of the big piece of the puzzle is Hippocrates Health Institute. I am so grateful to have that piece of the puzzle back in my life again and there it will stay!

    Now I have found another piece of the puzzle called MMS. I have totally been off my HIV meds now for six months and started taking MMS on June 1st of this year. I am now also dealing with HepC, which I refuse to own. I started taking one drop and working my way up to taking 30 drops at bedtime. I did go through all the detox yucks but at the time I knew all was good. I am now on the new protocol of 3 drops every hour for eight hours a day for three weeks. According to Jim this is a good protocol to knock the hell out of both viruses, HIV and HepC. I will keep in touch with you all and let you know how my blood profile results in November ’09. I am grateful to have such a site to come and share and learn.

    Love and health to you all…
    Kirtis

    1. CdnFarmgirl

      Thank you so much for sharing your story, Kirtis. I wish you continued courage and strength to keep doing the right thing! Love, Julie

  209. Linda

    Hello,

    I am not sure who I am asking, but if anyone is able to help I’d be much obliged. I have a terrible set of teeth, at least 4 of my teeth are rotting/chipping away (2 premolars, 2molars). I don’t have any type of health insurance, and I am currently enrolled in school with no source of income and i was wondering if MMS would do anything for my teeth?

    1. CdnFarmgirl

      Hi Linda,

      Yes, MMS will “do something for your teeth”! It cannot replace any chipped enamel, but it will get rid of bacteria and plaque (which are probably causing alot of your problems). As well, you will have healthier gums, and overall, a much “cleaner” mouth.

      A simple way to use MMS in your mouth is as a mouthwash. Put 5 drops MMS in 1 cup of water (this is one application where you DO NOT HAVE TO ACTIVATE THE MMS BEFORE USING). Gargle but do not swallow. Spit out, rinse with clean water. Do this morning and evening and you will really notice a difference.

      There is enough acid in your mouth to sufficiently activate the MMS for this purpose. Please do not drink unactivated MMS.

      Of course, you can always take the MMS activated, 1 drop to 5 drops citric acid/lemon juice, and drink it. Be sure to start slowly, only 1 or 2 drops a day. Best of luck, Julie.

  210. Col

    Hi Adam,

    I am in contact with someone diagnosed with cancer of the Lymph Nodes and is in the latter stages – any intervention would need to be now.

    Please tell me how to get in conctact with Jim.

    1. Dear Col,

      Jim is out of the country and would be a hard one to reach, especially for any time of interactive “treatment”. Whatever you do, I suggest that your friend look for someone who practices alphabiotics (www.alphabiotics.com). This can be used in conjunction with MMS or any other modality, but will have the effect of relieving the stress that is contributing to your friend’s physical condition, and allowing the body to make proper adjustments that only it can make.

      There are many steps that can be taken. The first and main one is that your friend desire to get well, and know that the condition is one of balance, which traditional medications tend to make worse instead of approve. I will soon post additional information about alphabiotics, which is not a “curative” step in itself, but one that can help tremendously.

      In the mean time, there’s a lot of information available about MMS use, including the OCC (Overnight Cure for Cancer), a version of which uses MMS. Another link with information about using MMS for Lymphoma is here.

      Best wishes,

      Adam

  211. cynthia

    This is response to Jared’s post…There is a video I watched where Jim Humble mentioned that he and his colleges did an experiment with soda. They took a blood sample of them all before hand and then drank Co-CoCola, then took another blood sample and noticed their blood was thinner. They did the same thing but than drank Pepsi and found that Pepsi did a better job at thinning the blood. I personally saw a bulging vein up by my upper left front side of my shoulder (knowing my doctor wanted to send me to a suregon to take some of the blood out) I decided to drink some Pepsi and alot of the bulge is gone….it is very hard for me to see or it is not possible for me to feel with my hand anything. Adam the founder of this Blog is the one to really talk to He is the walking Encycelpedia here…in my opinion but, there are others here that are helpful as well….I thought I would give my experience with my blood clot…I drink about one cup ( 8 oz ) a day or two. To Heal the veins I have used Coral Calcium…I have heard that cholestoral is caused by the body trying to seal the cracks in the veins and so started taking this and my Doctor said” How did you get your chol…level down?” I said with “Coral Calcium and eating oatmeal”. “Well what ever you are doing keep on doing it…it is working” he said. I bring this topic up because maybe the bleeding is caused by the cracks in her veins…I am not sure but, Coral Calcium can only help.
    I wish ALL the BEST for you and your wife.

  212. Jared

    I am not sure who to be addressing this concern to, so I will make it a general inquiry. Before I ask the question though, I would like to explain a little about the issue at hand. My wife’s mother has renal cancer, which has spread to her lungs and brain. I have done some extensive research into MMS and have found that it has been effective in helping cnacer patients. I realize that it is not a guaranteed cure, nor can it be called such. I would be thrilled if it would work as a cure for my wife’s mother, but I am more interested in other aspects of the solution. In a video interview that I watched Mr. Humble mentions that the chlorine dioxide, in effect, blows through the harmful pathogens. This statement has caused me some alarm and so I must ask this question. Along with cancer, my mother-in-law suffers from diabetes, blood clots, and minimal brain bleeding; the major concern is the blood clots. Since the chlorine dioxide will “blow up” harmful pathogens, what effect would this solution have on the blood clots, as well as the bleeding in the brain? Right now the bleeding has stopped, but it could start up again with the right pressure. I am not realistically looking for the “cure” to cancer here. I will hope that this would do such an amazing feat, yet what I am realistically looking for is a way to allow her system to strengthen enough to possibly fight this nasty disease. My wife and I both would like to use MMS for my mother-in-law, yet we fear the possibilities of worsening some of her conditions before the MMS has a chance to do what it is designed to do. ANY information would be appreciated.

    Sincerely,
    Jared

    1. Hi Jared,

      There are SOOOOOOO many factors involved here, that it would be sheer speculation as to how MMS might help. However, if you, your wife, and mother-in-law are really seeking a way to shift this in a positive without the normal chemical uncertainty, I’d suggest that you explore spiritual healing. The *light* that a spiritual healer will channel to your mother-in-law would address her systemically in a way that is totally “unguessable” at this level. When I say systemically, I am speaking beyond the molecular body, and including her energy field and beyond. These are aspects of our beingness that medicine typically ignores. MMS can help by cleansing the waters that are within the body, re-electrolizing them, as it were, making the body more able to conduct energy through each cell. But all the other questions that you validly cite may need to be addressed.

      I’d suggest you contact Alex Hermosillo, in Tempe, AZ (http://www.masteryofenergyhealing.com). That is, IF you are willing to believe, with all your heart, the healing that you seek is really possible.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  213. Diane

    Hello Adam…I’m blown away by this forum…how have I not heard about you and mms sooner?

    I’ve not tried it as this last 45 minutes is my first encounter with this info. I just have a gut feeling about it.

    I am 48 yrs. young and was diagnosed with Hypo-thyroidism 5-6 yrs. ago. With natural thyroid hormone replacement (prescription- Armour thyroid) and exercise, meditation, and serious diet changes….my health has greatly improved. However….Big Pharma wants to do away with natural thyroid (desicated porkine thyroid gland). It is said that hypo-thyroid is not curable…I refuse to believe it.

    Have you any insight on whether mms can help the thyroid gland?

    Any insight would be appreciated.

    Also….where is the best and most affordable mms available?
    Thank you so very much…I will be staying connected to this site and will share it with MANY!!!

    Love and namaste~Diane

    1. Greetings Diane and welcome,

      What is not said when a doctor makes the statement that “_____” is not curable, is “when you use the methods that we prescribe.” Chronic diseases all reflect some level or degree of imbalance within the body, either chemical, microbial, pathogenic, nutritional, or energetic. When these factors are addressed, the body does what comes naturally — balance itself with improved, if not restored health as the eventual outcome.

      To answer your question as to whether MMS use can help, I looked up hypothyroidism (https://www.google.com/health/ref/Hypothyroidism), and saw the following symptoms:
      Early symptoms:

      * Being more sensitive to cold
      * Constipation
      * Depression
      * Fatigue or feeling slowed down
      * Heavier menstrual periods
      * Joint or muscle pain
      * Paleness or dry skin
      * Thin, brittle hair or fingernails
      * Weakness
      * Weight gain (unintentional)

      Late symptoms, if left untreated:

      * Decreased taste and smell
      * Hoarseness
      * Puffy face, hands, and feet
      * Slow speech
      * Thickening of the skin
      * Thinning of eyebrows

      Of the conditions listed, constipation, joint pain, puffy face (inflammation), dry skin, all point to imbalance — dehydration, intestinal congestion due to un-metabolized food, which can also mean parasitic activity. Hydration with structured water starts the balancing process. Structured water has energy in — bio-photons — it stimulate a rejuvenation of various “dormant” functions.

      A 7-day intestinal cleanse (using Oxy-Powder) will help pull undigested and compacted material out of the intestinal tract, which allows MMS to gain easier access to the bloodstream through the intestinal wall to travel to other regions of the body that are oxygen deficient.

      There are many other things you can do to help your body heal itself. The most fundamental one you’ve already done, listened to yourself, and followed your own knowing. Your body hasn’t forgotten how to heal. It KNOWS what to do for you, even if “modern medicine” does not.

      Your body — particularly thyroid function — would also benefit by supplementing with nascent iodine, or making sure you take in full spectrum salt. Sea salt will work, as will Himalayan salt. It has the full complement of trace minerals that regular table salt lacks. Table salt also includes aluminum, which your body doesn’t need in such high amounts.

      Thanks again for dropping by, and best of health to you.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  214. Alan

    Hi Adam,
    Can you explain how mms cures stomach ulcers and does mms cure the helicobactorpylori virus?

    Regards

    Alan

    1. Hi Alan,

      I can’t tell you how MMS “cures” anything. Only the body cures itself when we provide it with what’s beneficial and take away what’s not. H. pylori is an anaerobic micro-organism. It is present in part due to a lack of sufficient light (energy) in the body, which precipitates as certain minerals, such as magnesium. While it’s easy to think of the H. pylori bacteria or other micro-organisms as “bad,” they serve a valuable purpose, which is to keep you alive until you take care of a larger, energetic problem that’s going on. That problem can be helped with MMS intake, by taking in structured water; living clay intake will also help. Raw, unpasteurized milk will also help, as it replenishes the gut with aerobic micro-organisms which normally “manage” the anaerobic population.

      But you can also help yourself learning and then choosing to see yourself as healthy — physically, mentally, and emotionally — and then being that way each day. This last change will adjust any behavior patterns or attitudes that you’ve embraced that contributes to the over simulation of your lower chakras that result in the over acidification of your gastric region, which produces too many anaerobic micro-organisms, depleting magnesium production and absorption, and compromising the integrity of the intestinal wall.

      Your body knows how to keep you in the game, even when you’re not taking good care of yourself, or treating others well. Yet, when you begin doing that, it will make the changes necessary to restore your health, and MMS can then very powerful, and it won’t matter “how” it’s done, but simply that it IS.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  215. Gilgamesh

    Hi Adam.
    As I understand the protocol for the swine flu is to take the MMS every hour for 10 hours.
    I was coming down with something, I thought it was a cold, so I had 6 drops MMS with the citric acid and water, and the same one hour later, and again one hour later.But this did not help, so I had a few hours later 3 drops about 3 more times, and that did not help. So a few hours later I started again 6 drops for 10 hours. After 5 times I had no nausea, no diarrhea, so I went to 7 drops,and I had the diarrhea. My diarrhea is some times like pure water.Not exactly glacier pure, just kind of clear. So I went back to 6 drops, 10 times in 10 hours. And after, I think I just had the healing crises, but I also felt I still had the flu also, and about 12 hours later I had 6 more drops, and one hour later 6 more drops, and now I feel the flu is gone.
    I m not sure what kind of flu I had, but it was not easy to get rid of it. And I just wonder if the 10 drops for 10 hours suppose to work all the time , or some times need a little more, or until it is gone?
    I also would like to know, if I could buy MMS2 in the capsules, because my system is not very agreeable with the the citric acid.

    1. Hi Gil,

      Sometimes, your body is simply saying, “I need to flush, rest, and recharge.” Hopefully, we’ll get to a point of relationship with it that we can get its message, and not have to guess, or administer to it needlessly. I do this by using a pendulum (a practice I’ve done for almost 30 years). Others use muscle testing (applied kinesiology) to ask questions as to the appropriateness of a given approach. Skepticism or fear would not be helpful positions to take here. Instead, a sincere desire to experience the highest and best outcome, and willingness to follow your guidance through. The more you do it, the more confirmation that you get. Then you understand that you can ask questions that are pertinent to you, and get answers from a source that knows.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  216. Lee

    I have Lyme disease and initially tried large doses of antibiotics, which wreaked havoc on my system, including what I believe to be candida on my face. I have always had clear skin, but after the massive doses of antibiotics, I must stay on Candex and probiotics to keep this from flaring up. I spend about $25.00 a week on the Candex alone.
    Started MMS about 6 days ago, along with Ludol’s iodine. After 3 days on MMS (1st day, one drop, second day 2 drops, 3rd day 4 drops…) the candida (if that’s what it is, went out of control on my face. Inflammation that had me looking like I had the chicken pox…) I have also broken out in a hive-like rash on my forearms, chest, neck, and the back of my ears. This is embarrassing to say the least. I don’t even want to leave my house.
    For those who have Lyme, I must inform you that I had a major herx from this, painful, but as we all know, a very good sign. I felt like I was being shot in the arms with bullets. This is where my most prominent symptom has always been with the Lyme.
    My first step to stop the rash was to stop the Iodine. I did. The following day, continued the MMS, including using it topically to clear up my face and the rash. It worsened.
    Day 5 stopped everything and am doing every treatment that I know to clear up my skin. I even crushed some prednisone and mixed it with cream and applied it to my face. The candida huge flare up seems to be getting better today, day 6. It has never been that bad.

    My question is this. Do you think that my rash is due to the MMS use or Iodine?
    What can I do to clear this up? I am willing to do anything, including fast if it would help.

    How long should I stay off of the MMS before resuming, and is there a test that I should do before ingesting it to see if it develops a rash (once this one is gone)?

    This was my last hope for getting rid of Lyme without antibiotics. Help.

    Lee

    1. Dear Lee,

      Your last hope is always YOU, as is your first. Sounds like the MMS that you took was indeed working. I would suggest that “flare ups” are not what you should be trying to suppress. By doing so, you’re maintaining the high count of pathogens in your body. When you took the MMS and broke out in hives, it meant that the pathogens were fleeing. If you continued the MMS, they would eventually be oxidized (by the atmospheric oxygen as well as the ClO2) and would eventually go away. The embarrassment, as well as the outbreak, will go away.

      I’ve had the herx effect… felt like what it might be to give birth. It is apparent that your body was/is VERY toxic. All the MMS/chlorine dioxide is doing, is oxidizing what it encounters. If you stop taking it now, the imbalanced condition remains (although it is lessened).

      You should make sure you’re drinking structured water along with your MMS, and stop fearing rashes. Celebrate when you see one develops, because this is the stuff that was inside your body messing things up that are now moving out.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  217. Samantha

    Adam, your response was powerful; it really resonated with me. Mindfulness. Thanks so much.

    You are right, I was already determining what his next dose would be based on his reaction. The thing is, his reticence (even pseudo gagging) made it hard to judge because it was due to the taste when I mixed the activated MMS in water rather than juice. I decided the next step would be to change it to juice to mask the smell & taste and then judge. Now I have Odwalla Carrot Juice and R.W. Knudsen Cranberry Raspberry but I began reading about Vitamin C used as a preservative in shelved organic juices even if it isn’t listed. Hrmmm. The Odwalla is refrigerated though. Do I need freshly squeezed carrot juice? It is the best at Completely masking the taste and smell. He said it was fine though now I wonder if we all feel no difference because the carrot juice had Vitamin C that negated the MMS. ?

    My mom is also sick with the same bug so she is now taking it today as well. We’ll have many reports soon … at least as soon as we get the correct juice. 🙂

    Thanks again for all your help!

    Samantha

  218. Samantha

    Hey Adam,

    Please don’t confuse my cautiousness in making sure I am giving my 4 year old a proper dose with overactive anxiety on my part. I’ve always been game trying new ways to heal myself but when it comes to something I’ve never tried for myself (& don’t personally know Anybody who has heard of MMS much less tried it) I have to make sure I am as well educated a mom as I can be for the sake of my child. I don’t want to regret my failure to act with due diligence (if my child began to vomit or got diarrhea) because of my eagerness to get us all well. Also, I am actually very positive about the MMS, I am simply being exact and careful as it’s new to me.

    That said, my husband and I had already taken the MMS by the time I saw your reply. =) Yeah. So, I started my son on a half drop MMS with lime juice & water (full of love) and will continue to add a half drop every hour for the next 12. Supposedly, this should stop the flu in it’s tracks in 12 hours. I have very high hopes though I believe juice will be the way to go as the kiddo wasn’t into the lime water at all. We shall see … and I will report back.

    Ummm, yeah, the lime juice just sounded good; at least better than powdered citric acid. I think I’ll just save that to make a fizzy bath when I’m well. 😉

    Again, thanks so much!

    Samantha

    1. I fully understand what you mean. Due diligence is far different than fear, neither of which can be touched or seen. For those who read this exchange where my thoughts on anxiety and fear apply, the words are there. I’d want to be just as clear as you in making such a decision, which is why I’ve compiled what I have on the subject. My only suggestion would be to do what you’re likely going to do anyway, and that is, monitor your son’s responses. Simply be present each moment, and determine whether then the next dose is needed for him. You can determine that by observation, muscle testing, pendulums, and intuitive trust and knowing. Ask his body to advise you, his Highest Self to guide. If you are open to that, you’ll have the greatest help each step (along with all that LOVE) of the way.

      Regards,

      A~

  219. walter

    Hi Adam,

    I’m 50 years old and veggie since ’77, fairly healthy about things, but have always suspected something was wrong. Now I suspect it’s these dental fillings I have had since a kid. I had lots of cavities and lots of fillings. I do plan on taking these fillings out when the money.

    My question is, can you tell if it’s mercury poisoning you have? Is there a way to tell if that is what the MMS is working on? I suppose improvement of memory would be one sign. Thanks for the post. I just ordered a bottle of MMS yesterday.

  220. Samantha

    Hi again Adam,

    Than you for the information on the water and I promise I will not continue this line of questioning but my other question was not about the ratio of Citric Acid to MMS. I apologize because I know this must be so frustrating to thoughtfully answer questions to the best of your ability only to hear ‘Wait, that’s not what I needed.” Aik, sorry. So, before I mix the citric acid (I am squeezing fresh lime juice) and MMS I wanted to know if the cap that came on the bottle of MMS & the empty Citric Acid bottle will give the appropriate size drops for correct dosage.

    My confusion comes from Jim saying that a normal eye dropper will need to be upped 1.5 drops but the cap on the bottles seems like it delivers an even smaller size drop. I’m just hoping that you will tell me that this flip top cap that comes on all the MMS & Citric Acid bottles is perfect so I can begin Now & avoid going to the store to find this special cap pictured in the book. I’m being a stickler since I will be giving it to my child but if it were just for my husband & I, I’d just go for it.

    Since Jim says the flu treatment is to ingest hourly upping a drop every hour I need to be careful with our child. That is, unless I misunderstood the protocol for a child with the flu? Gosh, I hope you say I have that right … I am sick as well so a bit more confused than normal.

    Again, I apologize for any confusion & really appreciate your help,

    Samantha

    1. So you’re using lime juice, eh? I’ll say this: anxiety does more to dilute the INTENTION and hence, the effectiveness of whatever you are seeking, than the detail about the cap.

      There I go again… to answer your question, the cap that comes on the bottles ARE the appropriate size drops. That’s why they were chosen. But again, they were chosen for their size consistency relative to each other, so that there would be a reliable and simple way to produce the proper ratio of MMS to activator. Hundreds of thousands of people have now used MMS, using the bottles that you have now. Jim has endorsed the packaging materials as well. Before you begin this journey with your child, please set your anxieties aside. I say this, not so much related to the MMS, but to WHATEVER you elect to give him. I know it’s important, but anxiety only lessens the potentially beneficial effects while increasing the unwanted ones. CONFIDENCE increases the chances that the actual effects we get are one with those that we want.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  221. Samantha

    Adam!

    Thank you for getting back to me So quickly! I really appreciate it. I do intend on watching your documentary and, Yes, I understand all too well about being off the grid- the patronizing smile when I tell a Dr about our acupuncturist & our avoidance of antibiotics & the flu vaccine. Somehow it’s different when it’s your child because they scare you into thinking you have no choice. We are lucky that we’ve always eaten very well so that has never been a concern, & we are on all the minerals, vitamins, & supplements needed, as well as the Chinese herbs to combat this infection (I’m already better due solely to the intense raw herbs I’m drinking to fight this off) & we are quite lucky that we are very full of LOVE. =) We know the power of intention and belief and all of our own unique abilities to heal ourselves … So, I am ready to give the MMS a try but now the only other thing I need help with is that question about the cap. !

    I’m not sure if I articulated it well enough or if it just got lost in the myriad of open ended questions I posed (since I didn’t really formulate one) so please let me know if it needs further explanation. If not, can you help me with this so that I might start our family on this immediately? I just don’t understand why the correct bottle cap (as pictured in Jim’s book) doesn’t come on the bottle ready to be used. Maybe I’m being utterly dense & the drops will be the same size but I want to be sure.

    Oh, one more question: After the MMS is activated, will it do if I use our Brita filtered tap water full of intention 🙂 or should we go buy some distilled and fill that with positive intention?

    Again- Thank you so much,
    Samantha

    1. Hi again Samantha,

      You articulated well, I simply got on my rant and didn’t refer back to your original thoughts, which I can sometimes do. Most MMS suppliers package the sodium chlorite (MMS) in a green 4 oz bottle, and include an empty blue bottle of the same size to accommodate the citric acid activator. Due to its concentration (10% solution), the activator bottle will be filled 5 times in servicing the entire contents of the MMS bottle. The purpose of the two ensures that the nozzle size on the bottle caps be the same, so that the ratios of MMS to the activator that you mix would then be fairly consistent. This was the simplest way to make that happen.

      If you can obtain another bottle just like the one that the MMS comes in, you’re in business. If not, don’t fret it. You can always buy measured droppers, and use one with the MMS, and one with the citric acid, simply using 5x as much activator. Some MMS suppliers are beginning to ship citric acid in a 50% solution versus the original 10%. The new formulation of activator allows for a 1:1 ratio of MMS to activator. Much simpler approach. Jim’s rationale for using the 10% solution was to create a sufficient volume of liquid from which to generate the clorine dioxide. However, after 3-6 drops, it seems there’s plenty of liquid to work with. And with some people going far beyond 6 drops, it quickly became a moot point. Yet, the 1:5 ratio is still the predominant one, by far.

      If I were you I’d definitely use the Brita. Human intention is far more powerful than we know, and the only way to learn is to use it and experience the results. We’re using it now, but mostly disowning that the experiences we’ve created. Won’t it be great when we look forward to experiencing the fruits of our intentions (not someone else’s fears), knowing full well that they’re coming?!

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  222. Samantha

    Hi Adam,
    I have read every single entry posted here and have a bottle of MMS sitting in front of me. My 4 yr old son and I are sick with a nasty cold/flu virus. There are a few reported cases of ‘swine flu’ at his school though I’m more afraid of the normal flu since he got it last year & it was terrifying. He had a reaction to Tamiflu so we took him off of it & had to ride the flu out. My husband & I decided this year we’d go the route of steadily bolstering all of our immune systems with the ‘perfect’ foods, supplements & our acupuncturist’s raw herbs. I bought the MMS (as well as Jim’s book) just to have on hand but now here we are really sick, we have MMS but we’re afraid to give it to our child.

    You are an intelligent & patient man to deal with this blog & give the thoughtfully thorough replies to so many … however, I am wary of using something on my baby I have not used myself & found it to be safe but I don’t have time for that now. I need your help even though I don’t have a specific question. I’d love to hear of anyone (who isn’t selling MMS) that has successfully used it on their child.

    Also, for some reason the MMS doesn’t come with the correct cap that Jim pictures in his book to ensure getting the correct size drops. Can you please help me?

    Thank you very much for your help & time,
    Samantha

    1. Hi Samantha,

      I understand your quandary. It takes courage to step off “the grid” when everyone around you is saying it (the standard medical approach) is your only hope (“even though the side-effects may involved blah, blah, blah, in which case call your doctor”). Once you step off, you’re on your own, or at least it seems that way. And what most of us don’t stop to realize — and aren’t told by most people who matter to us — that “on our own” we are QUITE capable of responding to and resolving the problems that pop up. So much for my preamble.

      In my documentary, Understanding MMS: Conversations with Jim Humble, I interviewed Dr. John Humiston, a California-licensed M.D. who practiced at the William Hitt Center, located in Tijuana. This was a wonderful turn of events because Dr. Humiston was an early member of the medical profession to actually get what MMS was about, not only medically, but personally. He used it himself and shared that, while making no other changes to his routine other than adding MMS, he experienced a noticeable improvement in the quality of his sleep time.

      He also described, at length, how his family used it, including giving MMS to his 2-year old son, when various cold or flu-like symptoms cropped up, with great results. What we don’t tend to appreciate is that when runny noses, sneezes, and coughs happen, the body’s immune system is already working, attempting to mitigate the effects of any number of things, including (1) dehydration, (2) microbial imbalance, (3) chemical toxicity, (4) parasitic factors. When we take pharmaceuticals, they only tend to exaggerate these conditions instead of mitigate them.

      I would suggest going to Jim Humble’s information site, http://www.jimhumble.biz, and looking up what he may have there about child’s dosages. As I recall, he suggested a maximum of 3 drops per 25 lbs of body weight. On the label of the jug that I have, there is even a dosing recommendation for infants. Please keep in mind that a body that is not “well,” has an imbalance (not a drug deficiency), which the body itself can regulate and rectify IF we give it what it, the body, actually needs. That includes energy-rich foods, structured water, essential minerals, amino acids, enzymes are all important. MMS is helpful for removing or reducing “overages” of the stuff that contributes to physical ailments WITHOUT introducing new toxicity. In addition, your LOVE gives it power.

      I hope this is helpful, and thank you for finding us.

      Here’s to your innate healing power and health.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  223. John

    If MMS is taken for HSV-2 should one discontinue the use of the Valtrex?

  224. bridgett

    Namaska’r my friends,
    i tried mms. i weigh about 110 lbs. was up to 9gtts 2x yesterday and had that wonderful effect. nauseated for hours, pure toxic diarrhea (sorry). today i wake up with an ache in the right side of my head, and sinus pressure. i know this is where the pathogens are now residing and i think my gums and teeth have been a problem for years. (never had probs til i moved to the us from canada then all of a sudden i had cavities and needed root canals. i had insurance)i had the previous root canals removed with great improvments to my joints. (dental implants now). this one crown i still have might be the prob. as debris might be getting up under it.
    i had an abscess but i have been doing oils pulling earthclic.com., and it is almost resolved. the mms just brought the situation to light and hopefully i can start back again. (nauseates me to think about it right now). i will do a salt water cleanse today to eliminate the rest of the toxins that have died off. thanx for the great blog. it alleviated alot of my fears.
    p.s. kinda nice mum being sick. i get lots of attention. ha ha. bridgett

  225. Hi Adam
    it is urgent for me to know whether the sodium hypochlorite is safe to take as sodium chlorite in MMS protocol , i couldn’t find in the internet an answer to my question , i need it badly .only hypochlorite is available here( i live in Malta ) and i know that you are keen about chemistry ,so please give me the final answer if you have it .
    thank you

  226. Hello Adam
    i have ordered mms but did not receive it and the company kindly sent me another bottle but also couldn’t get it for some unknown reason (i live in Malta)
    but found that it is available here but only sodium hypochlorite they use it for the water purification so what is the difference and is that safe to take it like Sodium chlorite with the same protocol, i am sure Adam you will give this topic your attention because i need it BADLY
    Ali Hamada

  227. Confused

    Hello Adam –

    thanks for the quick fix of the first link (Show #013 — Guest: Jim Humble ‘MMS and cancer’). Very helpful.

    Also noted that you reposted this as ‘from the MMS archive’ today – great idea !

    Thanks for looking into the second link also.

  228. mira

    Hello,

    Hope someone could answer me. I would like to tye MMS, for I have some health problems like migrane, chronic back aches, noisy joints etc (I just turned 36) BUT my concern is, am I really able to take this stuff, ´cause I have a pacemaker, and a my hart chambers are separated with some synthetic fabric (which exactly, I don´t know, I was 6 at the time of the operation, but my guess is MAYBE teflon:D). I´m allso on medication, (varfarin and betablockers). At 23 or so I had a stroke. Nowdays I´ve been dropping the varfarin dosage and turnig to alternative options without asking my physicians ´cause I know what they would say. I´d love to get rid of the toxins. If MMS is not the right product for me, or are there any alternatives?

    PS. I do belive in miracles, I´ve experienced them first hand.

    1. Dear Mira,

      I find it interesting how many people appear to be oblivious to how their medication is contributing to the very health problems that they’re experiencing, and are concerned with how MMS might affect them. Chlorine dioxide is a weaker oxidizer than ozone or even hydrogen peroxide. It will not harm your pacemaker, nor oxidize the fabric in you heart. It’ll do no more damage that the medications that you’re already taking. If varfarin is the same as warfarin, it was developed as a rat poison, and simply renamed and marketed as an anticoagulant. It kills blood, when what your body needs is to dissolve the deposits — often calcium — that have accumulated in various parts of your body, including the circulatory system. Restoring a natural balance of magnesium would solve the problem, without the adverse side-effects.

      The toxins that are in the prescriptions are contributors to the health problems you’ve experienced. MMS and the chlorine dioxide that is generated from it are not toxic, and produce none. The chlorine dioxide molecule only acts on positively charged (disruptive), anaerobic or oxygen deficient components that are encountered, thus allowing a state of balance to be restored.

      You are a young woman whose main concern — in my opinion — should be about restoring balance in your body. This is done through hydration, detoxification, and nutritional supplementation (minerals, amino acids, and aerobic microorganism replenishment), None of the things that you described that you’re presently taking will do that, and it sounds like you know it.

      MMS is one part of a multifaceted subject.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

      1. mira

        Hello Adam,

        thanks a lot for your answer, I appreciate it. Warfarin is indeed what I ment, by the trade name Marevan. I´m aware of the drugs history, and allso concerned that it deprives body from the vitamin K2, which in turn affects in the accumulation of calcium (to all the wrong places) among other things. I´ve only just recently learned this and not surprisingly, not from my physicians. Now I´ve been supplementing with Natto, God Liver Oil and butter, so finally I´m doing something (I´ve long hated to take the drug but it´s been like the only option around). Allready I notice that my nails are growing for the first time in years.

        In fact yesterday I ordered MMS, so I´ll try it as soon as it gets here. I have supplemented with magnesium for years but not with the liquid form. Anyways, you´re right in so many ways..

        thanks again,
        Mira

    2. John

      Mira, I read recently that nattokinase is a very useful natural enzyme derived from fermented natto, said to be excellent for dissolving blood clots and other junk from blood vessels, which I believe is probably why it is reported to also lower elevated blood pressure.

  229. Jonathon

    Thanks for the great page. I am going to try MMS on an open wound & found a post about it here.

    Read a bunch of the posts & noticed some had extreme nausea in response to mms. This happened to me as well. I suggest people that respond this way check to see if they have helicobacter pylori infesting their stomach. Using mms will (in my experience) cause H. pylori to get worse. Jim Humble even mentions there is one “fungus” that mms cannot treat but does not name it… it is Helicobacter Pylori. H. pylori feeds on oxygen & will lower the acidity of the stomach.

    Just my thoughts, verify for yourself, best wishes.

    1. clint

      Jonathon:

      I might try Jim Humbles NEW protocol….

      MMS1 & MMS2

      MMS1 is still the same thing (5 to 1) BUT, taken in a capsule form (3 drops MMS to 15 drops Citric acid) every hour…. for 8 hours.

      Then take MMS 2 (Calcium Hypochlorite) in a ‘0’ gelatin capsule.. every 2 hours (so, 4x’s a day) with the MMS 1 protocol.

      Check it out:
      http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro.htm

      Clint

  230. Confused

    Adam: podango.com where you hosted two of the sound files with Jim Humble linked in your very helpful article above is now defunct and thus the following files are therefore unfortunately no longer accessible:

    >>> The third is on cancer… click here. <>> NEW: From Bahia de Kino, Mexico. A face-to-face “on location,” “in studio” interview with Jim Humble. To listen, click here.

    Any chance you could make those available at another (i.e. accessible) location?

    Many thanks in advance!

  231. Thank you for bringing the notation error, which has been corrected, to my attention.

    Best wishes,

    Adam

    1. Gilgamesh

      Hi Adam.
      I m using water now from prill beads. A small package of beads can convert a
      gallon of water in one hour to glacier pure water, and it is a super hydrater, thinner water, energized with life force energies. Not every body, but some people can also see this energy as it spreads out of the bottle into the room, and climb up the walls, they can see it as blue energy.
      The used water will work as it get into the environment, converting and purifying lake and river waters. Jim Carter when he was making the prill beads, emptied lot of water into Lake Mead,and the lake is very clean, at the dam it is very pure glacier like water.One small package of this magnesium beads, for 15 or 20 dollars last a life time. And I also put one drop of mms in every gallon of water.
      In addition to this, would it be good to get also the water structuring device, or that would be not much more improvement?

      1. Gil,

        My sense is that you’re already structuring the water with the prill beads and cosmic energy stones. The benefit of a structuring unit is in the ability to have such water available everywhere and for every use within one’s home. It’s a challenge to get very far beyond drinking prill water. Fortunately, the structuring methods don’t compete. I can’t say whether one does it “better” than another.

        Adam…

      2. Gilgamesh

        Hi Adam,
        Thank you for this information.

  232. Scuffy01

    Hi all,

    Several years ago I learned about hydrogen peroxide and researched the heck out of it and thought it sounded like it could help me. Then I chickened out at the last minute as I thought it would be too harsh on my already sensitive digestive tract. Time has gone by and I have now found out about MMS which I have ordered and am waiting for in the mail!

    I have had Crohn’s disease for about 7 years. 2 1/2 years ago I got appendicitis very bad and while they were in there dealing with that they had to take out 14 inches of the end of the small and beginning of the large intestine. Crohn’s has been better up until a few months ago and the symptoms are back and getting worse. At 32 I’m afraid of having to go down the surgery route again as they have already take so much of my colon out. I am trying to prevent that if at all possible.

    So I know from taking medications, prednisone (evil stuff!), surgery, high likelihood for candida etc that MMS will help me fight all the stuff built up in my body.

    Here is my main concern…while I have no doubts that it will help me, I am most concerned about the “side affects” of the cleansing process. I understand that side affects mean you are getting rid of the bad stuff…but please remember that I have Crohn’s disease which means I am currently suffering from diarrhea 10-15 times a day as it is. Adding MORE diarrhea is not my idea of fun. I also can’t afford to have this disrupt my work any more than it already does. I have a good job, but I don’t sit very close to the restroom!

    My thoughts after reading this entire blog is to take MMS slowly and not try to race up to the 15 drops a day or try to get to the vomiting/horrible diarrhea phase in such a hurry. I think in my situation it would be more beneficial to let my system release bad stuff a little at a time more slowly and steadily than to try to get it to purge with such heavy side affects.

    Will this work? Any suggestions on dosing for a longer term lower dose type regimen?

    The DMSO seems like a good stand by and may be good for skin eruptions (I get those anyways, I imagine MMS will only make them worse while purging) so I plan on getting some of that to have on hand.

    I am especially curious about calcium bentonite clay which was mentioned up above. Considering my Crohn’s situation already and my not being able to tolerate too much worse in side effects than I’m experiencing in my current state, do you think taking the clay with the MMS would help lower some of the side effects as it flushes things out?

    I’m a real detailed person so Adam and Clint I especially appreciate yourin depth knowledge of these subjects. The clay above was mentioned in passing and someone mentioned using MMS slowly over time to reach the same desired end results but there is not much in depth on those topics.

    Things like how much clay, when to take it compared to when to take the MMS, do I still need juice if I’m doing clay, how nasty does clay taste, etc are very helpful for me.

    Like I said, MMS is already ordered and on its way…but whatever I can do to help mitigate the side effects for my situation will be the most beneficial info for me.

    Also, on a side note, although I have Crohn’s, the one symptom I do NOT have is the weight loss associated with it. I lost weight several years ago successfully (before Crohn’s diagnosis) and then was put on prednisone and gained it all back (I have been off prednisone for 5+ years & refuse to take it again). Since then on numerous diets, eating healthy plans, exercise routines etc I can only budge 10 lbs. The doctors have checked thyroid, adrenals, cortisol etc with nothing glaring in the results. I was thinking the prednisone and other drugs have made me toxic and I have many symptoms of candida overgrowth. I sure hope that releasing all those toxins will help me once again get back down to a more manageable weight. Some people carry weight due to build up in their colons…I’m the opposite, most definitely don’t have that problem! lol…

    Thanks in advance for everyone’s advice and input as I begin this journey of wellness.

    Cheers

    1. Scuffy…

      You’ve got the right frame of mind… that’s where healing begins. The rest are details. A great place to go for more detailed information and protocols on MMS is http://JimHumble-biz. There’s an article there written by Jim that speaks directly to the lower dosage strategy.

      Calcium bentonite clay is some wonderful stuff. There’s a book titled, “Living Clay” and a web site http://www.aboutclay.com with great information.

      One other modality you should investigate is Spectro-Chrome Therapy. It will sound too simple to be true or effective, but it is fundamental. Developed in 1920 by Dinshah Ghadiali, it has proven its effectiveness in many cases that standard medical practice washed its hands of. Crohn’s disease is on the list of over 300 conditions that have been documented by a specific Spectro-Chrome regimen, which is an infusion of a certain color (frequency) of light over time. The system is inexpensive, and would complement everything you’re doing with MMS and living clay. I purchased a Spectro-Chrome Light Therapy system (light and Roscolene filters) along with the book, “Let There Be Light,” by Darius Dinshah, for just under $100 from http://www.productsondemand.biz/colorfilters/index.cfm.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  233. nole_89

    I never got a reply about the effects that MMS might have on the liver. Am also curious about if they’ve solved the message board technical problems here like, for instance, where on the thread this post will end up.

    1. Greetings Nole,

      MMS’ effect is on low pH molecules of organic or inorganic material. That material can exist anywhere in the body, and in varying degrees from one individual to the next. There is no standard liver condition, as each individual will also be in their own state of health or disease, whether chronic or acute. MMS does not harm the liver, but could certainly put one to the test if it is already clogged and not functioning optimally.

      I’m not aware of any message board problems here. From my recollection you’re the only person that has ever mentioned one.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  234. hello!

    i like your blog!

    regards,
    angelina

    angelinajoh.com

  235. Sam

    Hello Adam,

    I am giving MMS to my 3 dogs. The only way I can get them to take it is if I put it in milk. Does milk deactivate the MMS, or is it okay to give it to them in milk? If that is a problem, what can I use so dogs will drink it?

  236. Sam

    Hello Adam,

    I’m giving MMS to my 3 dogs, and the only way I can get them to take it is to put it in milk. They drink it right down with milk, but I’m not sure if that’s a good way to give it to them. Does milk deactivate the MMS? If so, what else could I use to get the dogs to take it?

  237. Gilgamesh

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    Hi Adam.
    Even if I dont use canola oil, it is in a lot of prossesed foods, and and we may not even know it, a lot of people may have canola oil poisoning.
    If mms kills poisons, what would be the protocal for this?

    Canola Oil
    Compiled by Darleen Bradley

    Recently I bought a cooking oil that is new to our supermarkets, Canola Oil. I tried it because the label assured me it was lowest in ‘bad’ fats. However, when I had used half the bottle, I concluded that the label told me surprisingly little else and I started to wonder: where does canola oil come from?

    Olive oil comes from olives, peanut oil from peanuts, sunflower oil from sunflowers; but what is a canola? There was nothing on the label to enlighten me which I thought odd. So, I did some investigating on the Internet. There are plenty of official Canola sites lauding this new ‘wonder’ oil with all its low-fat health benefits. It takes a little longer to find sites that tell the less palatable details.

    Here are just a few facts everyone should know before buying anything containing canola. Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a made-up word, from the words ‘ Canada ‘ and ‘oil’. Canola is a genetically engineered plant developed in Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family of plants.

    According to Agri Alternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology Magazine for Farmers, ‘By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been used to produce oils for industrial purposes, are… toxic to humans and other animals’. (This, by the way, is one of the websites singing the praises of the new canola industry.)

    Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect repellent. I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per instructions) to kill the aphids on my roses for the last two years. It works very well; it suffocates them. Ask for it at your nursery. Rape is an oil that is used as a lubricant, fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base and as a illuminate for color pages in magazines.

    It is an industrial oil. It is not a food. Rape oil, it seems, causes emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability, and blindness in animals and humans. Rape oil was widely used in animal feeds in England and Europe between 1986 and 1991, when it was thrown out. Remember the ‘Mad Cow disease’ scare, when millions of cattle in the UK were slaughtered in case of infecting humans? Cattle were being fed on a mixture containing material from dead sheep, and sheep suffer from a disease called ’scrapie’.

    It was thought this was how ‘Mad Cow’ began and started to infiltrate the human chain. What is interesting is that when rape oil was removed from animal feed, ’scrapie’ disappeared. We also have not seen any further reports of ‘Mad Cow’ since rape oil was removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically proven, but interesting all the same. US and Canadian farmers grow genetically engineered rapeseed and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed foods, with the blessings of Canadian and US government watchdog agencies. The canola supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was developed from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic engineering it is no longer rapeseed, but ‘canola’ instead.

    Except canola means ‘Canadian oil’; and the plant is still a rape plant, albeit genetically modified. The new name provides perfect cover for commercial interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients list on labels. Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil. You will find it in an alarming number of processed foods. There is more, but to conclude: rape oil was the source of the chemical warfare agent mustard gas, which was banned after blistering the lungs and skins of hundred of thousands of soldiers and civilians during W.W.I. Recent French reports indicate that it was again in use during the Gulf War.

    Check products for ingredients. If the label says, ‘may contain the following’ and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil because it is the cheapest oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to industries involved in food processing.

    I do not know what you will be cooking with tonight, but I will be using olive oil and old-fashioned butter, from a genetically unmodified cow.

    Here is more information……….

    Canola oil from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because Canada is mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA . The Canadian government and industry paid our Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on the (GRAS) List ‘Generally Recognized As Safe’. Thus a new industry was created. Laws were enacted affecting international trade, commerce, and traditional diets. Studies with lab animals were disastrous. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals, and thyroid gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the deposits dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies on humans were made before money was spent to promote Canola oil in the USA

    Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused by a build up of long-chain fatty acids (c22 to c28) which destroys the myelin (protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain fatty acid oil (c22). Those who will defend canola oil say that the Chinese and Indians have used it for centuries with no effect, however it was in an unrefined form.(*) (* taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus.)

    My cholesterol level was 150. After a year using Canola oil I tested 260. I switched back to pure olive oil and it has taken 5 years to get it down to 160. Thus began this project to find answers since most Doctors will say that Canola oil is O.K.

    My sister spilled Canola oil on a piece of fabric, after 5 pre-treatings and harsh washings, the oil spot still showed. She stopped using Canola oil, wondering what it did to our insides if it could not be removed from cloth easily. Our Father bred birds, always checking labels to insure there was no rape seed in their food. He said, ‘The birds will eat it, but they do not live very long.’ A friend, who worked for only 9 months as a quality control taster at an apple-chip factory where Canola oil was used exclusively for frying, developed numerous health problems. These included loose teeth & gum disease; numb hands and feet; swollen arms and legs upon rising in the morning; extreme joint pain especially n hands, cloudy vision, constipation with stools like black marbles, hearing loss; skin tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss and heart pains. It has been five years since she has worked there and still has some joint pain, gum disease, and numbness.

    A fellow worker, about 30 years old, who ate very little product, had a routine check up and found that his blood vessels were like those of an 80 year old man. Two employees fed the waste product to baby calves and their hair fell out. After removing the fried apple chips from the diet their hair grew back in. My daughter and her girls were telling jokes. Stephanie hit her mom’s arm with the back of a butter knife in a gesture, ‘Oh mom’, not hard enough to hurt. My daughters arm split open like it was rotten. She called me to ask what could have caused it. I said, ‘I’ll bet anything that you are using Canola oil’. Sure enough, there was a big gallon jug in the pantry.

    Rape seed oil is a penetrating oil, to be used in light industry, not for human consumption. It contains a toxic substance, (from encyclopedia). Even after the processing to reduce the erucic acid content, it is still a penetrating oil. We have found that it turns rancid very fast. Also it leaves a residual rancid odor on clothing.

    Rape seed oil used for stir-frying in China found to emit cancer causing chemicals. (Rapeseed oil smoke causes lung cancer) Amal Kumar Maj.

    The Wall Street Journal June 7, 1995 pB6 (W) pB6 (E) col 1(11 col in).

    Canola oil is a health hazard to use as a cooking oil or salad oil. It is not the healthy oil we thought it was. It is not fit for human consumption, do not eat canola oil, it can hurt you. Polyunsaturated or not, this is a bad oil.

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    By: Gilgamesh on July 28, 2009
    at 9:05 am

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    Hi Adam.
    The article on canola oil, is from the Truth Seeker on the internet.

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    By: Gilgamesh on July 28, 2009
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    What you think is important and what your body KNOWS is important can frequently be different things. If you’re taking MMS, your body will use it to deal with what is MOST important to its survival and well-being. Your fissure will eventually disappear. My point is that you get out of “why doesn’t…” mode, and relax and KNOW that things are working. You’ll see and feel the results when you’re in a mind to notice them. What you’re noticing presently is the lack of change, which retards your progress.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

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    By: phaelosopher on June 3, 2009
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    I understand the whole mind/body thing. BTW, your oxy powder says it’s out of stock.

    The reason for my original question was that I suspected my size may require starting at a higher dosage of mms. I suspect that it might be like how bigger people need higher dosages of anything else.

    Also, I think I got a little spoiled a month ago when I caught this cold from hell and p-73 oregano killed it within 3 hours. Seriously, almost all the symptoms disappeared in that short amount of time. Never had anything work that fast before. Granted, the p-73 isn’t doing squat for my sinus infection, but it can sure kill a cold virus quick.

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    By: nole_89 on June 3, 2009
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    I niticed your reply was immediate – less than 1 minute, so I assume it is an automatic response.
    Regards to machine,
    Nino

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    By: nino on June 11, 2009
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    Greetings Nole,

    Thanks for the Oxy-Powder alert. It’s in stock, and the system has been updated. In spite of your size and the logical possibility that you need “more” than the average person, you need to learn to establish a dialogue with, respect for, and listen to your body. IT can and will tell you far more than anyone else can. It is the only One that KNOWS its own status and what it needs to be in optimal balance. It has been regulating and compensating for your disrespect for it for years, without disrespecting you back. I mean you no disrespect by saying this, as I have done the same. It doesn’t always happen consciously, but if we’ve lived a life out of chemical, emotional, or mental balance, then our body and health will eventually reflect that. Many of the factors that contribute to an out-of-balanced state occur outside of our awareness, such as taking showers or bathing in chlorinated and fluoridated water for years, or for women, using sanitary napkins that are actually quite unsanitary. What don’t know what we don’t know… that is, until we do.

    Because a person is “big,” doesn’t mean that their body needs a lot more of MMS. It *may* mean that, but it’s not a lock. There are just too many variables, the most important one being your own Will and READINESS to be well. When you are truly ready to be well, you’ll have the wisdom to be patient with your own process, because the journey back to health is quite personal. It is NOT formulaic. Experiences of others are simply guidelines, and do not govern yours. If it turns out that you take more drops, then so be it. My suggestion is simply starting with one (you’ve already gone past that), and working your way up.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

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    By: phaelosopher on June 4, 2009
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    Well, I can tell it’s killing something because my liver is a little tender right now which means it’s having to process more than usual. Whatever the mms is killing has yet to manifest itself in a way that I can outwardly tell, but it is killing something. I just don’t know what it is. It could be that my sinuses and anal fissure aren’t a first priority right now to the mms and that it’s going after something that is sees as more important. It is killing something because my liver is telling me it is.

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    By: nole_89 on June 4, 2009
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    I could not find answers or specific protocol on my condition with MMS

    I am 31 healthy female who has been getting abnormal pap smear tests of the cervix for 7 years. Sometimes the results are normal and sometimes not. They say it is CIN 1 stage of cervical cancer. No treatment is required as yet but they say if the cancer cells get worse I will need minor surgery or treatment.

    What I want to know is…what is the MMS protocol for cervical dysplasia or cancer? I am just about to take the Standard Protocol but I am wondering if there are any douche/pessary/internal treatments I can do. As in…to insert into the vagina to get to the cervix where it is needed most. I have one month until I get checked again to see if I need surgery or not and would love to do all I can with the MMS to avoid surgery of the cervix.

    Also, when can you eat and drink caffiene? As in, when I get up in the morning, if I take MMS I would generally have coffee and light breakfast within 15-45 minutes of drinking it. Is this okay? Should food be avoided within a few hours of taking MMS?

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    By: Lara on July 1, 2009
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    Lara:

    If it was me, I’d get right on it, and assume the worst – Hope for the best. Don’t waste time.

    Since your condition is local, and can be accessed easily from the outside, I would use Vaginal Ozone Insufflations for 60 seconds, 2x’s a day.

    ordering an ozone machine isn’t al that difficult, and might cost a few k ($1900).. it will be well worth it.

    I might also start using the MMS via capsule form (the new protocol)…. so as to cover all the bases of your condition (Ozone from the external, and MMS from internally)

    As for caffeine, there’s no way to say this… but let it go girl…. for at LEAST 2 years, get OFF caffeine…. or until your CIN free. It’s a stimulant, and will aggravate your condition.

    If you decide to take this route, I can help you with the ozone (ordering, the settings, etc…)
    … and Adam might assist you with the MMS via capsule.

    all the best,

    Clint

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    By: Clint on July 1, 2009
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    Oh I think now I know….:D Ok, Hi my name is Abigail, I can tell my story but i so long, so I jus want to ask something, I reading about MMS and I think is wonderful, my question is, can this product help to cure a Pulmonary Hypertension, is a very strange ill that the orthodhoxe medicine dont have cure (as many desises), but well, and where can I find this product, I live In Mexico City…Thanks a lot
    Light and Love
    Abigail

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    By: Abigail on July 5, 2009
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    Greetings Abigail,

    Orthodox medicine doesn’t have a “cure” for pulmonary hypertension because it is “germophobic,” symptom-focused and pharmaceutical dependent, and not concerned with the basics of hydration, balanced body chemistry and microbial balance. Based on its general Standard of Care, it is event that medicine views all micro-organisms as “bad,” given that drugs are prescribed to kill bacteria at the slightest provocation, but NO concerted effort is mounted to restore microbial balance (aerobic bacteria) after a microbial “ethnic cleansing” regimen has been prescribed. Indeed, recovery rates might be far more effective if medicine stopped using antibiotics all together, and began increasing a patient’s aerobic probiotic population, as they would enhance healing by using life to enhance life rather than by killing life and creating greater imbalance.

    MMS will help reduce the anaerobic (non-oxygen breathing) microbial population in the body without affecting the aerobic. Understand that the anaerobic are not “bad,” but are there because of an imbalance born of such factors as chemical toxicity, nutritional deficiency and dehydration, combined with chronic seriousness, otherwise known as stress. Laughter, joy, relaxation, and sexual fulfillment are all quite effective methods to restore balance — energetic balance too — that too often get swept under the table in favor of expensive, ineffective drugs.

    So much for my soapbox time.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

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    By: phaelosopher on July 7, 2009
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    Adam
    Thanks a lot for your answer, and Im compleatly agree with you, I have the idea that Imposible is nothing, but I dont know how start, I have the MMS now with me, and I will start to take it…
    I have a doubt, can you explain me a bit more what you mean with….
    -the basics of hydration, balanced body chemistry and microbial balance.- or where can I found more information about this…
    Thanks again and blessings to all
    Abi_Gail.

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    By: Ferlaa on July 14, 2009
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    Greetings Abi_Gail,

    There’s no short answer to your question, although there are articles published elsewhere on this site that speak to each of the subjects that you ask about. The first thing I’d say is simply start where you are, with what you have, and a KNOWING that an aspect of who you are is ALREADY well, has ALREADY realized the goal that you are seeking. In so doing, you BECOME that aspect NOW. Your cells will get the message, and respond accordingly.

    Best of health to you.

    Regards,

    Adam…

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  238. Gilgamesh

    Hi Adam.
    The article on canola oil, is from the Truth Seeker on the internet.

  239. Gilgamesh

    Hi Adam.
    Even if I dont use canola oil, it is in a lot of prossesed foods, and and we may not even know it, a lot of people may have canola oil poisoning.
    If mms kills poisons, what would be the protocal for this?

    Canola Oil
    Compiled by Darleen Bradley

    Recently I bought a cooking oil that is new to our supermarkets, Canola Oil. I tried it because the label assured me it was lowest in ‘bad’ fats. However, when I had used half the bottle, I concluded that the label told me surprisingly little else and I started to wonder: where does canola oil come from?

    Olive oil comes from olives, peanut oil from peanuts, sunflower oil from sunflowers; but what is a canola? There was nothing on the label to enlighten me which I thought odd. So, I did some investigating on the Internet. There are plenty of official Canola sites lauding this new ‘wonder’ oil with all its low-fat health benefits. It takes a little longer to find sites that tell the less palatable details.

    Here are just a few facts everyone should know before buying anything containing canola. Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a made-up word, from the words ‘ Canada ‘ and ‘oil’. Canola is a genetically engineered plant developed in Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family of plants.

    According to Agri Alternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology Magazine for Farmers, ‘By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been used to produce oils for industrial purposes, are… toxic to humans and other animals’. (This, by the way, is one of the websites singing the praises of the new canola industry.)

    Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect repellent. I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per instructions) to kill the aphids on my roses for the last two years. It works very well; it suffocates them. Ask for it at your nursery. Rape is an oil that is used as a lubricant, fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base and as a illuminate for color pages in magazines.

    It is an industrial oil. It is not a food. Rape oil, it seems, causes emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability, and blindness in animals and humans. Rape oil was widely used in animal feeds in England and Europe between 1986 and 1991, when it was thrown out. Remember the ‘Mad Cow disease’ scare, when millions of cattle in the UK were slaughtered in case of infecting humans? Cattle were being fed on a mixture containing material from dead sheep, and sheep suffer from a disease called ‘scrapie’.

    It was thought this was how ‘Mad Cow’ began and started to infiltrate the human chain. What is interesting is that when rape oil was removed from animal feed, ‘scrapie’ disappeared. We also have not seen any further reports of ‘Mad Cow’ since rape oil was removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically proven, but interesting all the same. US and Canadian farmers grow genetically engineered rapeseed and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed foods, with the blessings of Canadian and US government watchdog agencies. The canola supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was developed from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic engineering it is no longer rapeseed, but ‘canola’ instead.

    Except canola means ‘Canadian oil’; and the plant is still a rape plant, albeit genetically modified. The new name provides perfect cover for commercial interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients list on labels. Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil. You will find it in an alarming number of processed foods. There is more, but to conclude: rape oil was the source of the chemical warfare agent mustard gas, which was banned after blistering the lungs and skins of hundred of thousands of soldiers and civilians during W.W.I. Recent French reports indicate that it was again in use during the Gulf War.

    Check products for ingredients. If the label says, ‘may contain the following’ and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil because it is the cheapest oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to industries involved in food processing.

    I do not know what you will be cooking with tonight, but I will be using olive oil and old-fashioned butter, from a genetically unmodified cow.

    Here is more information……….

    Canola oil from the rape seed, referred to as the Canadian oil because Canada is mainly responsible for it being marketed in the USA . The Canadian government and industry paid our Federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on the (GRAS) List ‘Generally Recognized As Safe’. Thus a new industry was created. Laws were enacted affecting international trade, commerce, and traditional diets. Studies with lab animals were disastrous. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals, and thyroid gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the deposits dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies on humans were made before money was spent to promote Canola oil in the USA

    Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused by a build up of long-chain fatty acids (c22 to c28) which destroys the myelin (protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain fatty acid oil (c22). Those who will defend canola oil say that the Chinese and Indians have used it for centuries with no effect, however it was in an unrefined form.(*) (* taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus.)

    My cholesterol level was 150. After a year using Canola oil I tested 260. I switched back to pure olive oil and it has taken 5 years to get it down to 160. Thus began this project to find answers since most Doctors will say that Canola oil is O.K.

    My sister spilled Canola oil on a piece of fabric, after 5 pre-treatings and harsh washings, the oil spot still showed. She stopped using Canola oil, wondering what it did to our insides if it could not be removed from cloth easily. Our Father bred birds, always checking labels to insure there was no rape seed in their food. He said, ‘The birds will eat it, but they do not live very long.’ A friend, who worked for only 9 months as a quality control taster at an apple-chip factory where Canola oil was used exclusively for frying, developed numerous health problems. These included loose teeth & gum disease; numb hands and feet; swollen arms and legs upon rising in the morning; extreme joint pain especially n hands, cloudy vision, constipation with stools like black marbles, hearing loss; skin tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss and heart pains. It has been five years since she has worked there and still has some joint pain, gum disease, and numbness.

    A fellow worker, about 30 years old, who ate very little product, had a routine check up and found that his blood vessels were like those of an 80 year old man. Two employees fed the waste product to baby calves and their hair fell out. After removing the fried apple chips from the diet their hair grew back in. My daughter and her girls were telling jokes. Stephanie hit her mom’s arm with the back of a butter knife in a gesture, ‘Oh mom’, not hard enough to hurt. My daughters arm split open like it was rotten. She called me to ask what could have caused it. I said, ‘I’ll bet anything that you are using Canola oil’. Sure enough, there was a big gallon jug in the pantry.

    Rape seed oil is a penetrating oil, to be used in light industry, not for human consumption. It contains a toxic substance, (from encyclopedia). Even after the processing to reduce the erucic acid content, it is still a penetrating oil. We have found that it turns rancid very fast. Also it leaves a residual rancid odor on clothing.

    Rape seed oil used for stir-frying in China found to emit cancer causing chemicals. (Rapeseed oil smoke causes lung cancer) Amal Kumar Maj.

    The Wall Street Journal June 7, 1995 pB6 (W) pB6 (E) col 1(11 col in).

    Canola oil is a health hazard to use as a cooking oil or salad oil. It is not the healthy oil we thought it was. It is not fit for human consumption, do not eat canola oil, it can hurt you. Polyunsaturated or not, this is a bad oil.

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  240. MonkZy

    Is MMS made from sodium chlorite from DuPont, or is it from the many Chinese suppliers found wordwide? Also is this MMS different to the MMS sold as Miracle Mineral Solution. The MMS mentioned in this post is sold as a supplement. I am thinking of taking MMS for some long standing health problems I have (low body wieght and fatigue) it really seems many people have recieved great benefits from this product.

  241. wonder if this cures for foolishness, being naive, and for just not thinking str8

  242. Cayce

    OH. she told me to tell you her Name is Mari. just incase that rings a bell. because she says she has called you several times.

    anyway. just thought i’d add that.

    Thanks again,
    cayce

  243. Cayce

    Hi Adam,

    I was wondering if there was any way i could get some more contact information from you Because i have a close friend who has called you once , but unfortunately lost your number and is desperately trying to find it. She doesn’t Email, and she doesn’t use the computer. I don’t know specifically what she needs except that it involves questions about MMS and HIV. it would be very much appreciated if i could be given a way to contact you that could be passed along to her.

    I’ve read most of the posts on here, and I’ve researched protocols and cures used for HIV. However I know i wouldn’t be able to answer her questions as thoroughly as you would be able to.

    Thanks for your time. and if you’re number is not something you’d like to give out. i COMPLETELY understand. 🙂

    Peace and love.

  244. Clare

    Greetings all,
    Its been a while, but I have been keeping up with the posts when I can. At 65 went back to school and am now a licenced Real Estate Agent. Oh well needs must and all that. Where do I get the MMS capsules from? sounds like the way to go. Had a bad dose of the ‘flu but lessened it greatly with MMS. I am a true believer.How ya doin Clint? and best regards Adam
    Its winter here in Australia and very cold and wet so a good time for the nasties to hit if you are not on the ball.Cheers
    Clare

  245. Mae

    Hi Adam!
    I’m new at this, as a matter of fact, I just received my bottle of MMS, 2 days ago and am very anxious to begin taking it for Change of Life symptoms. My question: Is it Okay to continue to take my Vitality 4 vitamin regimen which contains “Ogligofrutose” from the company Melaleuca? Thanks!

    1. Greetings Mae,

      The best expert to answer that question is your own body. One way would be, working with a friend or family member, hold the product in question to your solar plexus in one hand, while extending your free arm outward, horizontally. Ask your question and allow the “assistant” to press down on the extended arm. If you maintain your strength, or “go strong,” the answer would be yes. If your arm is noticeably easy to push down, or “weak” the answer is no. If you don’t have anyone available to assist, you can use a pendulum to ask the question and get answers. YOU determine the efficacy of the answers that you receive by your sincere intent to know and express the highest and best, and willingness to trust your SELF.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  246. Abigail

    Hi…Im reading about MMS, and I have a question, this product can help to the diseses called Pulmonary Hypertension, and where can I buy it, I live in Mexico City, thanks a lot…
    Best Regards
    Abigail

  247. brian

    if it is so good, why are the medical profession not using it or telling he world about it

    1. Clint

      Brian:

      LOL !

      How old are you ???

      That has to be THE most naive statement I’ve heard in a long time.

    2. Sérgio

      For the same reason they won’t tell you the budwig diet cures cancer? bleh they wont tell you anything that wont give them or pharmacies money, if this doesnt sound wrong or odd, same reason mercedes wont be selling renaults, if you know what i mean.

  248. nino

    Hi, there!
    Although I have some reserves about MMS I must report:
    to prove, if MMS is really affective I gave MMS to my eldery friend who’s been in and out of the hospital for more than 6 months due unkown cause –
    bacterial/virus infection. On his kidney also developed 3 inches big cyst -probably cancer typ. He was taking up to 15 MMS drops 2 x day. After 10 day his cyst shrunk to 4 cm and he has no fever anymore. During that period he didn’t take any other medicine. So this is a no doubt a success story. So I advice my reders to take MMS.
    Nino

    1. Clint

      GREAT Nino !!

      Thanks for sharing your good news !

      Clint

    2. Nino! HERE HERE FOR HEALTH!

      Don’t you like that “unknown cause” line?! Viral and bacterial infection is OVERGROWTH due to too little water and too little oxygen getting to parts of the body, and too much of that which flourishes in an oxygen poor environment. Yet, standard medical response is NOT water or minerals (such as full spectrum salts that would help alkalize the body). It’s drugs that the body cannot metabolize. However, this process keeps people going into and out of the hospital in a revolving door, working up quite the insurance tab (if they have insurance), that is, until they go out for good.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  249. cynthia

    hello there everyone…it has been a little while since i have been able to make a comment on this site…but i have been keeping up on the current topics and did i miss something…. How did the Jehovah’s Witnesses get mentioned? Was there a line that I missed leading up to that topic?
    Well as for me…I was up to 5 drops a day and got real sick (yes this is the norm) but I am currently able to take 2 drops a day and feel better. I suffer from LUPUS.

  250. Gilgamesh

    Hi Adam.
    I m not a Jehovah witness, but just in case i would join this religion, my question is; all these remedies, like MMS, oxipowder,DMSO,structured water, prill beads, and super foods, like Maca, and rhodiola rosea and all these things approved by the Jehovah Witnesses?

    1. Clint

      Dearest Gilgamesh:

      WHO gives a shit !!!

      If it saves lives, and is non toxic to the body… why not use it ??

      Your saying you need permission from your Church to use a product that will possibly save your life ?

      C

      1. Gilgamesh

        Hi Clint.
        Not just the Jehova Witnesess , but most religioins have health remedies and foods and therapies.Like the Jews, Moslims, Menonites, Eckists,Rosicrucions, Presbitarians, Dukabors, Indians. Some churches smoke up the church with insence for aroma therapy,i think Jesus used insence, and aroma therapy, like the pope in the vatican.And I like kosher foods also. A lot of farmers play classical music to the chickens, for sound, or vibrational therapy, and to the cows.And i like the eggs better if the chickens have classical music. I have no church, or religion,and I also use MMS , and Oxipowder, and maca, and prill water, and magnisium oil, and purified air.

        Gilgamesh.

    2. Gilgamesh,

      I am not as articulate on this subject as Clint, but agree whole-heartedly with his reply. These are all natural, non-toxic, and in some cases, essential elements that help RECREATE health where there isn’t any now. They do so by neutralizing or reducing the effects of stuff that we have grown accustomed to, including such electro-polluters as electricity, microwaves, cell phones, and television, which I’d image are approved, or not banned, by Jehovah’s witnesses.

      A~

  251. MMS PILLS — every 4 hours? Would someone tell me where these are available. My service has been down for a while. And I see the order of posting seems to be is in disorder. I’ll see after this posts.

    MMS PILLS — post where these are available… are they a MMS/PGL product?

  252. Jeanne

    Hi, Adam.

    I was wondering how effective a MMS bath was, versus taking it orally. I am taking 30 activated drops of MMS daily in a bath. I have a filter on the tub to get rid of chlorine.

    I wrote you a while back on all of my symptoms. I have made progress after moving out of the toxic mold house, but lately have hit a plateau, and gotten weak. My body has had a lot to deal with from the mold, parasites, and they think it may be the cocksakie b virus that inflamed my heart. The med. docs have no help for me where the fungus mutates, the virus mutates, and the parasite mutated. My best day in the last 1 1/2 years was on 11 drops (2x day) of MMS (Oct. 2008). I got back very ill after that. Jim told me about clay, and fungus.

    I have been taking clay, baking soda/maple syrup, doing some trandermal mag. oil, been structuring my water, and been on a strict diet. I also have done colon cleanses, and been taking some herbs to support my body. I have just started on some of Dennis’ silver, and MMS baths.
    I lived a very active, and healthy life before this, and know I can get my health back if I get my body the combination it needs. I’d appreciate any thoughts that you have.

    Thanks for your knowledge, and time. Jeanne.

  253. Clint

    Jeanne:

    You sound like your doing a lot to get well… and that’s good… I might be wrong, but it sounds like your body can only process so much at one time, and that your in a hurry to get well (well, aren’t we all)

    But, the body will need to go at IT’S own pace… not yours.

    I have a friend who’s going thru a similar situation, and has tried MMS, Silver, Mag Oil, etc….. and is at a stand still….. I told him leave everything alone for 5 days, and let your body calm down, and then introduce things back one at a time, and slowly….

    Cause if you do it too fast, the immune system does the opposite…. it starts to fall, instead of get stronger. Your body can only kill off toxins, and too push it to go faster might have an opposite effect.

    Just my suggestion,

    Clint

    1. Jeanne

      Hi Clint,
      Thanks for your thoughts. I understand what you’re saying. I have tried all these things individually, and slowly over the past 1 1/2 years. With the exception of 11 drop dose day of MMS my health hasn’t made much progress, and after the good day, I got very ill. I was told that bad mold can mutate to MMS after awhile. And judging from my symptoms figure that’s what happened. I thought maybe if I give it a variety of things maybe I can get ahead of it. I have tried so much, and was out of ideas, so this has been my latest plan. I am wanting to get back to life, and be able to work again. I really miss working. I don’t want to push my body too much, but also don’t want to let all of these things slowly weaken me, and take the rest of my health.
      Quite a balance. It is a journey, and lots of learning I guess trying to find the right balance. Thanks Clint. Jeanne.

      My first comments didn’t show up, so I sent it again. Please disregard my second comments.

  254. Jeanne

    Hi, Adam.
    I was interested in how effective MMS baths were compared to ingesting it orally. I have been doing 30 MMS activated drops in my bath water daily. I have a filter on the tub to get rid of chlorine.
    I am still working on getting my health back. I have made progress since moving out of the toxic mold house, but lately have hit a plateau, and been weak. There is a lot going on that my body has had to deal with. The parasites, toxic mold, and they believe it may be the coxsakie b virus that inflamed my heart. Med. docs say the virus mutates, the fungus mutates, and the parasite mutated; so they have no help for me. Jim gave me some good info. on clay, and I have been on a strict diet, and structuring my water as you had mentioned. I also am doing some transdermal mag. oil, and maple syrup/baking soda, and just started on some of Dennis’ silver. I am have done colon cleanses, and am on some herbs to support my body. I made it to twelve drops orally on MMS (Oct. 2008), and got back very ill when I talked to Jim about the fungus, and he advised clay. The best day I have had in the last 1 1/2 years was on 11 drops of MMS, and so I am interested in how effective bathing in it is.
    Before this I lived a very active, and healthy life, and I know when I find the combination my body needs I can get there again.
    Thanks for your knowledge, and time. Jeanne.

  255. nino

    Hi, Clint,
    For medical use it has to be oxygen&ozone mixture, for insufflation, autohemotherapy and intravenously use. So, you’re right.
    But as I said: for home use – we know there is a huge problem with molds in our houses. Also Bob Beck advised the use of this type of ozone for drinking ozonated water. Since I begun using ozonated water, I had no colds, no flues, no angina. I recommande using it for frige cleanse, for cabinets desinfaction, for shoes, etc…
    If one wants to be cured by ozone, than he must go to specialized clinics, at least we in Europe have a lot of them.

  256. nino

    Clint,

    It is NOT important that you take 100% pure ozone!

    The oxidizing effect itself is what counts, not the kind of molecules wich lead to it.

    Nitrous Oxide is not harmful in any way.

    And in the end, people have tremendous success with even the air ozonators.
    Regards,
    Nino

    1. Clint

      Nino,

      Sorry to disagree with you, but you’ve been very MUCH misinformed Nino.

      It DOES matter that 100% oxygen is used when creating “Pure” Ozone (by spark or Ultra Violet)

      I agree, it is the “Oxidizing effect” that counts…and it also matters what is the purity of the source creating the oxidization.

      For the safest and most trusted use of Ozone INTERNALLY…. (Medically) … it’s best one use Medical grade Oxygen, from an Oxygen tank that is inspected once a year…and is emitting pure oxygen into the Ozone machine to then be turned into a certain concentration of Ozone.

      All the other said Ozone machines that use the Oxygen in the Air as it’s source of Ozone, are using lower concentrations of Oxygen, thereby creating a lower standard of Ozone.

      And when fighting say Cancers, or HIV, etc…. you want ALL the purity you can get to help the immune system to be stronger.

      Anyone who tells you different, is just trying to increase their sales of Air Ozonators.

      Ok… I’ll get off my Pedstle now….

      😉

      Clint

  257. nole_89

    Had to get off the mms. To much diarrhea. Even after being off of it for almost a week now I can’t have any alcohol. Now just having 1 or 2 beers will cause diarrhea in the morning. Wasn’t like that before the mms. I’m fine if I don’t have a beer.

    I wonder if the mms made my digestive tract extra sensitive now to alcohol or if it put my liver under a lot of stress. Anybody know the effect that mms has on the liver?

    1. Clint

      Nole,

      Give it some time my firend.

      It took years to create your consition… to expect your digestive system to come back into oder after only a week…. is rushing it.

      The MMS will produce toxins, that’s for sure…. and diarrhea might happen for a week or two… if it does… I have taken a Physilium Powerder (not course, to help get firmer stools)

      Other variables might be what your diet is like right now, stress… etc

      Having a beer right now, and expecting NO reaction while your system is trying to regulate itself out is very unrealistic.

      my 2c

      1. nole_89

        Meh, I think the mms might be a little hard on the liver. Or, for some reason, there are residual after effects from the mms after stopping it for some days. It could be that the dead pathogens take more than a few days to process after the mms has killed them. I don’t know.

        There really needs to be more independent studies done on the physiological effects of mms, not the least of which is the effects on the liver.

        BTW, my sinus infection is nearly gone. However, I attribute that more to walking up stone mountain 3 out of the past 5 days than anything else. I’ve found that strenuous aerobic activity gets rid of about 90% of what ails you.

  258. nino

    Hi, Clint
    one can buy ozonator for home use from Germany and it costs only 185 euros.
    Link:http://www.nulife.de/lshop,showdetail,1714,e,1244741935-1766,001,w-0049,2,Tshowrub–001,30.htm

    Regards,
    Nino

    1. Clint

      Nino,

      I mean no Disrespect to you, but….

      The Ozone machine that you gave me a link to, does NOT produce Pure Ozone. It gets it’s Oxygen from the room air (which is 17% oxygen if your lucky)

      To get 100% pure Medical grade Ozone into ones system, you need 100% Oxygen, from an oxygen tank (preferrably Medical grade as well)…THEN, and ONLY then can you get pure Ozone into ones body.

      I might have missed it, but I didn’t see anywhere (where it listed parts) that it had an Oxygen tank hooked up to it. Hence the reason why it’s so inexpensive.

      With the machine you have suggested, it also produce nitrous Oxide as a by product the room air (Oxygen) that will be put into the body.

      At most, this machine mmmight be used for a room air purifier…. but NOT for internal use.

      Clint

  259. nino

    Hi, there!
    I’m from Slovenia, EU, and have my website on alternative medicine. My German partner sent me Jim Humble’s book on MMS. I was really excited. I put short history on my website about MMS, to inform my visitors about healing properties of MMS. I also imported some MMS bottles from Germany for sale.
    Few years ago I was in Africa and I could see with my own eyes that there is a huge problem with malaria disease. Reading Jim’s book I made a plan to go to Madagascar (also a malaria area) and to manufacture MMS there. And than I found your blog. I am very thankful for your blog. Reading all posted blogs here I find some patterns: lot of Qs about MMS intake and very little success stories.
    I know that malaria and AIDS are very serious illness, but Jim Humble claims, almost all sick Africans were cured in few hours, or days. I must agree with Jinny. Something is wrong in this MMS story!
    So I would advise all people to follow principals from Jon Barron’s book: »Miracle Doctor«.
    There is no miracle bullet, although Jim claims MMS is. Anyone who wants to become healthy has to do a lot more than just drinking MMS. Buying an Ozonator for home use is a smart move. Do you know that 1/3 of biomass on our planet Earth is mold? Educate yourself and read / watch video of Italian doctor Simoncini.
    Have a healthy life,
    Nino Jakhel
    Ljubljana

    1. Clint

      Hi Nino,

      I agree… buying an Ozone machine IS a smart move, I have 3 of them myself, and Ozone DOES work . . . . . . BUT, most people can’t afford to shell out close to $2,000 and then try to figure the dials, how much oxygen to add, and ozone concentrations they need for their particular disease.

      Dr. Simoncini has a great idea as well… but how do you get to see him ? How much are his treatments… $,1000’s of dollars ? His treatments can be done by yourself (getting Sodium Bicarbonate into a particular artery)

      The MMS method IS an inexpensive way for people to be their own doctor, and get results FAST… and it DOES work for most health disorders… more and more is being discovered by the MMS community.

      There are new protocols out now (MMS by Capsule… every hour, 4 drops, etc…)

      Please stay current on the MMS before you start to question someone who has helped a lot of people get well.

      thanks,

      Clint

  260. Nate– have you used any of the suppliers listed at http://miraclemineral.org.

  261. GoodWorker1938

    Can this blog be fixed so that new posts are on the bottom of the blog in the order they are submitted…… this will probably jump above nole_89 – June 4, 2009 and phaelosopher – June 4, 2009 (these two seemed to be locked in the bottom position… it may even jump above nole_89 – June 3, 2009 — this is very distracting when attempting to keep up to date and communicate with other blogger s. —- I’ve been posting this concern repeatedly since June 4…

  262. GoodWorker1938

    Nate… Go to http://www.miraclemineral.org. Click on suppliers…

  263. GoodWorker1938

    WEBMASTER…where are you. Instead of my post falling at the bottom, the post jumped up the column 4 positions above the last post on the page.

    nole_89 notice the same thing and his posts are way out of line…. it ruins the thread for the reader and the poster. This one will shoot up the thread — WHO KNOWS WHERE!

    WEBMASTER– please fix… (I am posting from the Philippines but I don’t know it that should keep it from posting at the bottom…. 8:44 am

  264. GoodWorker1938

    nole_89… Good for you in paying attention to what your (our bodies) tell us. I understand your not taking the product so you won’t have a sudden health crisis (HC).

    phaelosopher… I am attempting to truly understand the protocol of my choice. Spreading the number of drops over the course of the day to expand the killer cycle of MMS and decreasing time advantage of pathogens to regroup or increase in numbers beyond MMS to keep pace. I want to understand this so I can be effective in passing this protocol to others. Here goes:

    Had I started 1/5 at 8:00 am and by noon had no HC. Noon I advance one drop to 2/10 and no HC. 7:00 pm I take 3/15 and by 8:30 pm I have a BM Flush– but not violent (never had a violent flush yet).

    So I took 6 drops in the span of a day. Up to 4 drops there was no BMF. So the third day would I take 1/5, 2/10, 1/5 which is 4 drops for the day and a decrease from the 6 which seemed to have brought on a HC? Is this correct thinking?

    Just trying to understand about spreading MMS over multiple doses, instead of 2/10 in the morning and 2/10 at night. I think I misinterpreted the protocol I mentioned earlier because after 3 days I was up to 12 drops a day, and I just started. Even so, the BMF have been mild and usually not more than 2x when it comes on.

  265. Nate

    Where does everyone get there MMS from? I would like to know a trusted website to order from…. Thx

    🙂

  266. GoodWorker1938

    nole_89… About your 6 dose and my 5 dose. When the 5 dose produced a mixed loose and firm movement I backed down to 3. I could have backed down to 4 but I chose not to tempt my fate. I am again at 4– no problem. For the rest of Saturday I will remain on 4. Sunday morning its on to 5. If I have no rumbling, I will go to 6. If not problem at 6, I go to 7. I always increase my next dose if the previous dose gave me no problems. We are told not to endure the sick feelings, just go back 1 or 2 drops. This is what I am carefully doing. No need to be sick. Yes! You get the almost diarrhea thing but you back down. This is my understanding of what I’ve read. Plus the protocol I’m following I feel is a fast track up to crisis points and you are constantly putting in the doses your body tolerates as you increase to the next drop. wow… what fun…

    1. nole_89

      GoodWorker, I have a big assignment I have to get done for class so I’m not doing anymore drops til Monday. On top of that I just think I found out that I’m allergic to lobster today. Two hours after I ate it I got dizzy and light headed, panicky, weird breathing, etc. At first I thought it was the result of the mms loosing plaque from my arteries, but then I remembered I just got through eating lobster. Not a good feeling. They say shellfish allergies come on suddenly during adulthood. Oh well.

  267. nole_89

    Okay, the 2nd dose of 6 drops today gave me a little diarrhea. I’m staying at 6 until that doesn’t happen anymore.

    It took 6 drops before I reached the threshold of not feeling good. Is that about the time most people experience this?

  268. GoodWorker1938

    Here is a chart of my following the #2. paragraph at http://jimhumble.biz/biz-normal.htm. A few explanations first:

    1. I mishandled the MMS dropper bottle. Oops! My chart starts at 2/20. I’ve not had any nauseous feelings. At the first sign of a slight rumble in my intestine– I wait and see what going to follow. I cut back 2 drops. I’ve not had diarrhea or any violent BM.

    2. Doses have a minimum time laps of 2/hrs or more, depending on what’s happening in my day. I did not record the times of each dose, on this posted chart, but marked the last Bedtime ‘BT’ dose.

    3. Codes I devised: BM-EFNV2x… Bowel Movement-Emergency Flush Not Violent 1x or 2x times. Ok here goes:

    4. 5/25 is when I felt a slight rumbling in my intestine some time after drinking the mix. I didn’t pay attention but it was probably 30 minutes or more.

    Wed: 2/10 (BT)

    Thur: 3/15, 4/20, 5/25 (BM-EFNV 1x), 4/20, 4/20 (BT)

    Fri: 5/25 (BM-EFNV 2x), 3/15 (BT)

    note: Only two doses on Fri. because I paid attention. I had reached my first BM- EFNV (Emergency Flush) peak. At the most I’ve experienced a very mild sickening feeling and that was towards the evening of Fri. That is why I did the 3/15 but did not have any other symptoms related to this experience.

    Sat: (in the Philippines) 4/20 my first dose of the day.

    I think I have my first sign of a health improvement and I will tell that when I am sure. Thanks to all………..

    But I wonder why my post jumps ofter several posts above the last posting… Oh! Well! What is perfect…. *s*

    For me; following this protocol helped me to get to my peak tolerance level 5/25 on my second day. I backed down. Today, I will do 4/20 doses, and Start a 5/25 Sunday morning.

    This is proving to be a rewarding and exciting experience.

    1. nole_89

      GoodWorker, I am having the same issue with my posts showing up in weird places. Me thinks it’s time they call the webmaster on this.

  269. GoodWorker1938

    Correction in my post: 5/20 should be 5/25 in all three instances.

    Small concern. Why doesn’t my post come as the last post. Nole-89 June 4, 2009 12:17pm is at the bottom.

    I don’t think this is going to under that one… Oh! Well!

  270. GoodWorker1938

    Having started taking MMS Wednesday, paying attention to my body messages, when I reached a mix of 5/20 with the passing of some time, there was a faint grumbling in my bowels. 5/20 was what I labeled my Early Warning BM Dumping (EW-BMD). It was not a violent discharge.

    I reverted back to 4/20 no problem for about two more doses. When I rose this morning (I’m a early riser), I took a 5/20 and had the same reaction as above for that dosage. Two (EW-BMD) but not violent. So at a 11.00 AM I will take and stick with a 4/20 until Saturday.

    I am using the protocol found in item 2. at
    http://jimhumble.biz/biz-normal.htm. This allows you to continuance doses 2/hrs apart. I go 3/hrs sometimes more depending on my day. According to this protocol you keep active and a individual’s tolerant level of CLO2 in your system. I like this protocol and it is working for me. I will post my schedule experience later. Enough for now…. happy camper!

  271. GoodWorker1938

    Why did my post insert between post already on the blog?

  272. GoodWorker1938

    Hi all! I’m taking MMS now. One suggestion. Shouldn’t the Oxy-powder be on the same page as the MMS and Activator on the resell site offered by MMS? Tomorrow I will visit my local health food store and see if I can decide on a viable product.

    I decided to do the 1/5, 2 or 3hrs space, 2/10, increasing one drop each time. I got up to 5/25 but had to back down to 4/20 and will do that at bedtime. I like the idea of spacing and taking MMS continuously as suggested in one of the protocols.

    Thanks for all the information sources available at MMS and other sites. Searching the Web has be my biggest motivator and confidence in drinking a mix I associate with eating grapefruits or drinking the juice without sugar. I enjoy telling everyone online and in the neighborhood what I am doing and experiencing.

  273. nole_89

    I’ve had a moderate sinus infection that won’t go away for about 3 weeks. I’ve also had a chronic anal fissure for years so I decided to buy the mms.

    I started with just one drop…nothing, not even nausea. Now I’m up to 4 drops that I took an hour ago, still nothing, not even nausea. I’m 6’5 280 lbs. What should I really be starting at? The only thing that has resulted so far is a bit of bubbling on the back of my tongue when I first drink it.

    1. Nole,

      If you’ve had a chronic fissure for years, it means that this area has been out of balance for all that time. My advice is that you take things one day at a time. You’ve started in the best way. Please continue doing so. Simply add a drop a day. Allow your body, and the chlorine dioxide, to do what it needs to do.

      I suspect that you didn’t start out with an intestinal cleanse using Oxy-Powder. At 6’5″, and 280, it sounds as though your intestinal tract may have quite a bit of unprocessed “stuff” lining its walls, which must be penetrated before the chlorine dioxide can get into the bloodstream via oral intake. Taking all natural Oxy-Powder for 7 days prior to taking MMS would start dissolving that stuff and get it out of your system (you might lose a few pounds in the process). It would clean and clear the lining, which also means it would clear the lining of microorganisms (bacteria and parasites) that may be living in that “stuff,” or expose them. The MMS could then take them out more easily, and have easier access to the rest of the body through the intestinal wall.

      You can get Oxy-Powder >> http://shop.understanding-mms.com/oxy-powder.aspx

      Or simply continue adding drops. But whatever you do, it’s wise and realistic to expect to improve, but it’s only going to happen in your time, which only you can determine.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

      1. nole_89

        Thanks for the quick response.

        Why does my weight and height make you believe that my intestinal tract may have a lot of unprocessed stuff? I had a colonoscopy last October. That stuff you drink beforehand should’ve cleaned everything out you’d think.

        And I’ll admit that my lifestyle hasn’t been great. I probably have had too many cocktails in the evenings and when I drink I have a tendency to light up. I know, I know, I need to back off.

      2. What you think is important and what your body KNOWS is important can frequently be different things. If you’re taking MMS, your body will use it to deal with what is MOST important to its survival and well-being. Your fissure will eventually disappear. My point is that you get out of “why doesn’t…” mode, and relax and KNOW that things are working. You’ll see and feel the results when you’re in a mind to notice them. What you’re noticing presently is the lack of change, which retards your progress.

        Best wishes,

        Adam…

      3. nole_89

        I understand the whole mind/body thing. BTW, your oxy powder says it’s out of stock.

        The reason for my original question was that I suspected my size may require starting at a higher dosage of mms. I suspect that it might be like how bigger people need higher dosages of anything else.

        Also, I think I got a little spoiled a month ago when I caught this cold from hell and p-73 oregano killed it within 3 hours. Seriously, almost all the symptoms disappeared in that short amount of time. Never had anything work that fast before. Granted, the p-73 isn’t doing squat for my sinus infection, but it can sure kill a cold virus quick.

      4. Greetings Nole,

        Thanks for the Oxy-Powder alert. It’s in stock, and the system has been updated. In spite of your size and the logical possibility that you need “more” than the average person, you need to learn to establish a dialogue with, respect for, and listen to your body. IT can and will tell you far more than anyone else can. It is the only One that KNOWS its own status and what it needs to be in optimal balance. It has been regulating and compensating for your disrespect for it for years, without disrespecting you back. I mean you no disrespect by saying this, as I have done the same. It doesn’t always happen consciously, but if we’ve lived a life out of chemical, emotional, or mental balance, then our body and health will eventually reflect that. Many of the factors that contribute to an out-of-balanced state occur outside of our awareness, such as taking showers or bathing in chlorinated and fluoridated water for years, or for women, using sanitary napkins that are actually quite unsanitary. What don’t know what we don’t know… that is, until we do.

        Because a person is “big,” doesn’t mean that their body needs a lot more of MMS. It *may* mean that, but it’s not a lock. There are just too many variables, the most important one being your own Will and READINESS to be well. When you are truly ready to be well, you’ll have the wisdom to be patient with your own process, because the journey back to health is quite personal. It is NOT formulaic. Experiences of others are simply guidelines, and do not govern yours. If it turns out that you take more drops, then so be it. My suggestion is simply starting with one (you’ve already gone past that), and working your way up.

        Best wishes,

        Adam…

      5. nole_89

        Well, I can tell it’s killing something because my liver is a little tender right now which means it’s having to process more than usual. Whatever the mms is killing has yet to manifest itself in a way that I can outwardly tell, but it is killing something. I just don’t know what it is. It could be that my sinuses and anal fissure aren’t a first priority right now to the mms and that it’s going after something that is sees as more important. It is killing something because my liver is telling me it is.

      6. Lara

        I could not find answers or specific protocol on my condition with MMS

        I am 31 healthy female who has been getting abnormal pap smear tests of the cervix for 7 years. Sometimes the results are normal and sometimes not. They say it is CIN 1 stage of cervical cancer. No treatment is required as yet but they say if the cancer cells get worse I will need minor surgery or treatment.

        What I want to know is…what is the MMS protocol for cervical dysplasia or cancer? I am just about to take the Standard Protocol but I am wondering if there are any douche/pessary/internal treatments I can do. As in…to insert into the vagina to get to the cervix where it is needed most. I have one month until I get checked again to see if I need surgery or not and would love to do all I can with the MMS to avoid surgery of the cervix.

        Also, when can you eat and drink caffiene? As in, when I get up in the morning, if I take MMS I would generally have coffee and light breakfast within 15-45 minutes of drinking it. Is this okay? Should food be avoided within a few hours of taking MMS?

      7. Clint

        Lara:

        If it was me, I’d get right on it, and assume the worst – Hope for the best. Don’t waste time.

        Since your condition is local, and can be accessed easily from the outside, I would use Vaginal Ozone Insufflations for 60 seconds, 2x’s a day.

        ordering an ozone machine isn’t al that difficult, and might cost a few k ($1900).. it will be well worth it.

        I might also start using the MMS via capsule form (the new protocol)…. so as to cover all the bases of your condition (Ozone from the external, and MMS from internally)

        As for caffeine, there’s no way to say this… but let it go girl…. for at LEAST 2 years, get OFF caffeine…. or until your CIN free. It’s a stimulant, and will aggravate your condition.

        If you decide to take this route, I can help you with the ozone (ordering, the settings, etc…)
        … and Adam might assist you with the MMS via capsule.

        all the best,

        Clint

      8. Abigail

        Oh I think now I know….:D Ok, Hi my name is Abigail, I can tell my story but i so long, so I jus want to ask something, I reading about MMS and I think is wonderful, my question is, can this product help to cure a Pulmonary Hypertension, is a very strange ill that the orthodhoxe medicine dont have cure (as many desises), but well, and where can I find this product, I live In Mexico City…Thanks a lot
        Light and Love
        Abigail

      9. Greetings Abigail,

        Orthodox medicine doesn’t have a “cure” for pulmonary hypertension because it is “germophobic,” symptom-focused and pharmaceutical dependent, and not concerned with the basics of hydration, balanced body chemistry and microbial balance. Based on its general Standard of Care, it is event that medicine views all micro-organisms as “bad,” given that drugs are prescribed to kill bacteria at the slightest provocation, but NO concerted effort is mounted to restore microbial balance (aerobic bacteria) after a microbial “ethnic cleansing” regimen has been prescribed. Indeed, recovery rates might be far more effective if medicine stopped using antibiotics all together, and began increasing a patient’s aerobic probiotic population, as they would enhance healing by using life to enhance life rather than by killing life and creating greater imbalance.

        MMS will help reduce the anaerobic (non-oxygen breathing) microbial population in the body without affecting the aerobic. Understand that the anaerobic are not “bad,” but are there because of an imbalance born of such factors as chemical toxicity, nutritional deficiency and dehydration, combined with chronic seriousness, otherwise known as stress. Laughter, joy, relaxation, and sexual fulfillment are all quite effective methods to restore balance — energetic balance too — that too often get swept under the table in favor of expensive, ineffective drugs.

        So much for my soapbox time.

        Best wishes,

        Adam…

      10. Ferlaa

        Adam
        Thanks a lot for your answer, and Im compleatly agree with you, I have the idea that Imposible is nothing, but I dont know how start, I have the MMS now with me, and I will start to take it…
        I have a doubt, can you explain me a bit more what you mean with….
        -the basics of hydration, balanced body chemistry and microbial balance.- or where can I found more information about this…
        Thanks again and blessings to all
        Abi_Gail.

      11. Greetings Abi_Gail,

        There’s no short answer to your question, although there are articles published elsewhere on this site that speak to each of the subjects that you ask about. The first thing I’d say is simply start where you are, with what you have, and a KNOWING that an aspect of who you are is ALREADY well, has ALREADY realized the goal that you are seeking. In so doing, you BECOME that aspect NOW. Your cells will get the message, and respond accordingly.

        Best of health to you.

        Regards,

        Adam…

      12. Gilgamesh

        Hi Adam.
        I was trying to post the article on canola oil on the end of the last post and it ended up further up in the line twice. Im trying to figure out here how to put this now on the end of the last post.

      13. nino

        I niticed your reply was immediate – less than 1 minute, so I assume it is an automatic response.
        Regards to machine,
        Nino

  274. GoodWorker1938

    Cebu/Mandaue Cities are located in the Philippines.

  275. GoodWorker1938

    Lorezo– is drinking it with hibiscus tea…
    Nate– 100% maple syrup… Where are the responses to these contributions as they relate to MMS protocol?

    Perhaps my order will arrive soon from the USA. In the mean time I’ve been reading, learning, learning and reading– everything and on Hasselink and the OCC (Over Night Cancer Cure) sites.

    Having retired from cabinetmaking and carpentry– protocol is important to follow when it has proven to work time and time again. In some things there is room for innovation. I am thankful for all the resources relating to chlorine dioxide. I was some what disappointed when a young doctor I visit on occasion told me the mix was chlorine. Somehow I think– he knows it is not chlorine. I sent him the link to Hasselink site. I’ve not had a reply from him. Does anyone here know of a doctor in the Cebu/Mandaue Cities area that is familiar with MMS and the related treatments?

  276. Nate

    Hi
    Someone tell me if I’m negating any positive effects by doing this, but I take MMS (activated with lime juice) with water and a bit of 100% pure maple syrup. After letting the activated MMS sit in water for about 5 minutes, I pour in a touch of maple syrup and drink it down. The drink is subtly sweet, and the last thing you taste is a bit of maple syrup at the bottom of the glass. I find it a more natural union of flavors than apple juice alone.

  277. Hi Adam,

    The corrected formula

    NaClO3 + 2HCl -> NaCl + H2O + ClO2

  278. Hi Adam,

    We are having good results with MMS here. I’ll be quantifying this when results are in.

    I however, cannot find the reason for “activating” the chlorite prior to ingesting.

    I have taken doses of NaClO3 with water [1 drop per 10 mL water], and seem to taste ClO2 some 5 minutes later. I hope to confirm this with exhaled-breath tests for ClO2 later.

    NaClO3 = 2HCl -> NaCl + H2O + ClO2

    It is certainly far more pleasant without the Citrate

  279. Lorenzo

    Sadhadoutagritha Ayurvedic ointment treats successfully nailfungus. Can get in Malaysia or in Kerala.

  280. Lorenzo

    Hi ,
    I am trying mms since may 1st and Take 15 drops twice a day. I was having intense cramps and evacuations at least 6 to 10 times a day since a week. Strangely I am not tired of this.
    I drink it with red hibiscus tea – it takes away the unpleasant smell.
    The nailfungus can be treated with a Ayurvedic ointment called Sathadoutagritha. I got it from Cottacal in Kerala. From Ariya Vaydia producers.It smells of goat, but is very effective.

    1. Lorenzo,

      Thanks for the suggestions!

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  281. Mollie

    Thanks Sandy for sharing your experience too. it helps to know others are having similar effects. I have started back now and am on two drops, going ever so slowly. My husband is doing it too, and is going up slowly too. I am trying on an empty stomach and that seems to work. I find right after I take MMS I get these tingle like feelings in my hands, and other places, very quickly. Was thinking too about the body and how amazing it is and how MMS is cleaning things up. I also notice this clean feelings, as tho I have fasted for a couple of days. I love this blog, thanks Adam for making it simple. Mollie

    1. Mollie,

      It’s great to hear your progress. We are all we have to support ourselves, until broader media is willing to share the message that we CAN be well again, simply by restoring balance. Thank you for your support and well wishes.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  282. GoodWorker1938

    Tea Tree Oil from Australia is known to be very effective in treating finger/toe nail infections. I also always keep on hand the TTO ointment or cream which slows down the fast evaporating oil. I am waiting for my first order of MMS, activator, and the book. Like Linda mentioned above, I started reading this blog from 2007. Read. Read. Read some more. It is interesting how many people don’t begin at step one before jumping over 2., 3., or higher. I wanted to be sure MMS is safe, not a scam, and something I can share with others. Well! I know it is– something to experience and share with others. I must wait to get started. I live in the Philippines, retired here. This will prove to be the best health invest for the modest priced MMS– a one year supply. I don’t know how much clearer the protocol could be and why any newbie would circumvent what has proven to be effective. My final comment, I noticed the blowing in of a recent ill-wind. Yes! I think it deserves some response, but I fear to much of those negative postings will do some damage to innocent people who do not have the art of researching the web as most of the regulars on this blog. Had I not started at 2007, I would not have appreciated much of what I learned her tonight. Good night and I will be back.

  283. CdnFarmgirl

    Hey Mollie and Sandy, sounds like you’re both on the right track. Way to go! Time and time again, I think it’s important to remind people that we need to LISTEN TO OUR BODIES. As you said, Sandy, the body IS smart. It was created in perfection, and it’s up to us to keep it running that way 🙂 Good luck to both of you,
    Julie

  284. Hi Mollie, I too vomited the other day after taking it once a day for over three weeks. First time I have had such a severe reaction. I think this is from an accumulation of die off, or pathegeons and the liver can’t handle it all, so it flushes out of the liver into the stomach … then the body treats it like you have food poisoning and gets it out of your system pronto. The body is so smart. I have heard you can drink Vitamin C if you feel like you are going to vomit and it will negate the mms and things will calm down. But, on the other hand getting whatever out might be good. I definitely reduced my dose after that and am going to slowly work up. I still am only on one dose a day in the evening.

  285. Mollie

    I started taking MMS and had no side effects until I was up to six drops and I started vomiting and vomiting around seven times and felt sick for two days. Spoke to my dr and he said take a break and slow down, even doing a drop for awhile and taking it slow upping it. I am ready to start again, but still have a headache, and am worried about vomiting again, it was not fun. I have used pomegranite juice and seem fine with it.

  286. Linda

    Clint,

    I’m probably not drinking enough water. I will up my water intake.

    My aunt has a nettie pot and says it is great. I’ll have to go to the health food store and get one. I have sea salt.

    Where do you get the “Lakewood” pineapple and grape juice? At the regular grocery store or at a health food store?

    If I’m not back on here for a day or so, I just got a call from my daughter. She is due to have a baby any time now and may be in early labor. When she heads for the hospital I will be on my way there too.

    Thank you for the info.

  287. Clint

    Linda:

    MOST definitely the headache is a symptom !

    Are you drinking enough water for the toxins to have an escape route? This can cause headaches sometmes too.

    FOr your sinuses Linda, definitely try doing a sea salt sinus flush, using a Nettie pot (1/2 tsp. sea salt in 4 oz. warm water) and pour the water thru each nostril. It does wonders.

    Clint

  288. Linda

    Clint,

    Thanks for saying Hey! I really enjoy reading the blogs. When I found this website, I started ready the blogs from 2007 through today!

    This morning when I got up, before I took the MMS, my sinuses were a mess. I was all sniffy. Before I threw up, my neck hurt and I had a horrible headache. My neck sometimes hurts from the RA and I thought I had a sinus headache.

    I felt better after I got sick. I just realized that the headache is gone and my neck doesn’t hurt.

    Do you think the headache may have been a symptom of detoxing?

    Thank all of you for all the great info you’ve shared.

  289. Clint

    Linda:

    You mght try lowering your drops, as well as NOT eating anything 2 – 3 hours either side of taking the MMS.

    If you feel nausea after taking the MMS, try taking 1/2 a wedge of an apple, and chewing it well. This has always worked for me.

    Taking the MMS at night on a completely empty stomach is THE best time for the MMS to be effective. In the AM can be rough at first…and the apple helps.

    For juice, I have used ‘Lakewood’ brand Pineapple or Gra[pe juice, and it has worked well for me.

    Hope this helps,

    Clint

  290. Linda

    I have a question. I switched from apple juice to pomegranite (sp) juice. I didn’t like the taste and it didn’t seem to be working as well.

    I switched back to apple juice this week. I’ve felt a little queasy again a few times. This morning, I had breakfast and drank my MMS. By the time I got to work, I felt horrible; tired and nauseated. An hour and a half after taking my MMS (and eating first) I was in the bathroom at work throwing up.

    Any suggestions for not throwing up after taking it?

    Thank you.

  291. Clint

    Just You Linda !

    🙂

  292. Linda

    Seriously, has no one been on this blog since 4/29/09?

  293. Linda

    I stumbled onto information regarding MMS. I purchased a book first and then ordered the MMS.

    I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis in 2005 and during testing to see which meds I could take, my doctor discovered that I had Hep C.

    With that combination, I am limited on which meds I can take for the RA. I hate taking meds anyway.

    Over the years, I’ve read that some people believe that RA may be caused by some sort of infection in the body, which the ammune system attacks. I’ve also read the leaky gut theory regarding particles escaping the stomach and again the immune system attacks.

    I have resisted taking treatment for the Hep C, especially since all of my tests were pretty good; no liver damage, etc. But, in the last year or so my viral load has increased. I’m sure that the RA meds (methotrexate and prednisone) which suppress my immune system haven’t helped on that front.

    So, I have been taking the MMS now for several weeks. I’m at 75/15 twice a day. I have to eat something before taking it or I throw up. I’ve been really quesy several times and have had the stomach issues.

    I have used apple juice, with the lowest amount of Vit C, that I can find. I’m going to the health food store this weekend to try to find some with no Vit C. I am using Pomegranite juice right now. Yuck. Anyway, I drink it down.

    I haven’t seen a lot of improvement with the RA, but we are in a very humid, rainy time here in the Midwest.

    But, I am not having any discomfort my liver area. I believe this is working and I’m going to keep it up. At some point, I will go to my gastro doctor and get blood tests again to check the viral load.

    When I discovered this blog, I started reading and have read months of blogs.

    Anyone out there with Hep C or RA having good results too?

  294. Clint

    Frances:

    I would bet Money that it would . . . I think it’d be one of THE best safe guards against something like that Frances, and not be toxic at the same time.

    my 2c

  295. Frances

    Would MMS help with the flu that is currently in the news?

    1. Greetings Frances,

      You bet it’ll help! While the CDC and all the vaccine makers say that they’re scrambling to create a serum that will “kill” the virus to “protect” us, only to see the living virus mutate, changing its energetic frequency and therefore become unaffected, the chlorine dioxide that is generated by MMS affects the virus in ways that make its mutability meaningless.

      Viruses have a disruptive effect on the body due, in part, to possessing a positive electrical charge. We are bio-electrical beings. The electrical charge that viruses and other pathogens emit is “positive.” A positive charge is disruptive to a cell’s bio-functionality, causing it to lose vitality. Chlorine dioxide is a carrier that introduces extra oxygen into system. Oxygen carries a negative charge, which draws off up to five (5) electrons from the virus (or any pathogen). When that electron exchange happens, the virus (or pathogen) is no more.

      Realize too that it’s not JUST MMS that does this. Drinking STRUCTURED water will introduce more oxygen. BREATHING DEEPLY will introduce more oxygen. Exercising and getting the heart rate UP will bring in more oxygen. Being JOYFUL, LAUGHING, making LOVE will introduce more oxygen and structure the water within the body, and enhance immune system strength. They don’t tell you such things on the news. They simply have you waiting for the axe to fall, afraid it’s going to fall on you.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  296. Cecilia

    Frances, For rosacea, I have taken Host Defense mushroom tea from Fungi Perfecti. I found that the tea really works for inflammation all over, but that may just be me. Who knows how other bodies respond to mushroom teas. I have heard of people using MMS topically, and I have used it in my bathwater.

  297. Jinny Snow

    Celilia and Clint,
    I venerate your perspicacity. However, veracity does not consist in persiflage or vast cogitative tendencies. Ambigious amanuensity is neither sagacious not salubrious. Veracity is only confirmed by peremptory rectitude.
    Aniyvwiya ageyv.

  298. Frances

    I would like to know if MMS works for rosacea and premenopause syptoms.

  299. Clint

    Jinny :

    . . . . is it just me, or are there tiny Violins playing in the air ?

    😉

  300. Jinny Snow

    Dear Adam,
    This is my first and only request on this matter.
    Please remove my name from ALL of your websites where you advertise, especially the one where my book is being advertised. My publisher is trying to sell MY book, not MMS or whatever else you advertise. A comment on a blog site such as this should not be splattered all over the web , especially when it suggests that I commented on that website. Your ads are misleading as I have nothing to do with these ads, but you are putting my name there anyway. It is not only bad publicity for my book, but it is against the law to use someone’s name to advertise without written permission. It is also against the law to submit comments I did not make on other websites with my name attached.
    I Originally tried to ask simple questions from you, hoping you would understand and help. If you did not know the answers all you had to do was say, “I Don’t Know.” But of course that would have been beneath you. Instead, you used the questions against me and made a public spectacle of me. The comments made by others about me suggesting that I made one have to go to therapy, take a seditave, etc, were triggered by your aggression, as, had they read my comments in the first place they could have known the truth.
    They may have given them some laughs at my expense, but were not funny. One even accused me of trying to force you to answer questions from a book you didn’t write. You seem to have that kind of effect on people. I do have a sense of humor, and am really an easy going person, but not at someone else’s expense. You may never know that and never want to know.
    Many years ago I was in radio, but didn’t use my position to trigger controversy. In those days, Uncle Charley (FCC) had rules.
    I trust that I will not need to take further action on this.
    Jinny

  301. Clare

    Hi Troy,
    I am in Australia, near Coffs Harbour. Have had excellent results with MMS. Get mine from Brisbane MMS Australia. Excellent web page and site for purchase. I wonder how long before our TGA interfere with our healing ???????
    Hi Adam and Clint, hope you are both well.
    Cheers
    Clare

  302. annie

    Has anybody watched “countryvet” video on youtube on food grade hydrogen peroxide therapy?
    Its a relatively short video, but very interesting. Let me know what you think.

  303. Troy

    Hello there

    Im an acupuncturist who has been involved with the health industry for many years, and have recently been wittness to some fairly amazing observations regarding a product called mms, or miracle mineral supplenment.

    I am in my mid sixties, and have had a few mild health issues for a number of years – a gum infection that become some what resistant to anti biotics, and also a moderate amount of psoriasis, but all in all, fairly benign.

    After trying mms for myself for a period of no more than a week, I noticed that recurrent gum infection had began to subside, as well as the psoriasis condition reducing in its severity by about 50%.

    I am thinking of becoming a distrubitor here in australia, but would first like to gain a little perspective with perhaps other mms users out there, along with testimonials.

    Any feedback would be welcome, along with othe peoples experiences.

    ps… I happened to purchase mine from the site http://www.mmshealthy4life.com but have found a very informative blog that is a must read for anyone interested in this topic is at
    http://community.livejournal.com/naturalliving/4006061.html

    This is the most comprehensive blog so far – so comprehensive that this page has consumed most of my laptop’s available ram!

    Looking forward to anyones feedback…

    Kind regards

    Troy

  304. Clint

    YOUR stunned ?!?!

    I just got back from Therapy over it, and am about to take another Valium® ! !

  305. Cecilia

    When I refer to “you” up there, I mean Adam.

    1. Hi Cecilia,

      I assume rationality, or at least the willingness to have a rational dialogue, until I see that it’s not forthcoming. Even then, for others who may read the posts, the issue raised should be addressed, and then let go.

      A~

  306. Cecilia

    I am stunned. What just happened here? Did I read this right: did someone just try to come on here and make you responsible for people in Africa not answering her questions about what someone else (not you) wrote in their book?

  307. Jinny Snow

    P.S.
    My great-grandmother was a beloved woman (medicine woman) in the Cherokee tribe and I do know a little about natural healing. I don’t take any prescription drugs at all. I mix my own herbs but obviously don’t know all there is to know. Am teachable, but not preachable.
    Jinny

  308. Dear Adam,
    Once again you accuse me of saying that MMS is a scam. Once again I did not.
    I can see that no matter what I say, I will be preached at instead of helped.
    I will continue my research on my own and hope to help those who are counting on me. I still believe MMS may be the answer. I hope and pray it is.
    I don’t know where you got your psychiatric license , so I will bow out and say I’m sorry for bothering you.
    Too bad, all I wanted were honest answers. All I want now is one alternative doctor who knows about MMS which will be my next project.
    Sincerely,
    Jinny Snow:
    Author, entertainer, researcher.

  309. Jinny Snow

    P.S.
    Would you kindly review my first contact and confirm that I did not call MMS a scam?
    I only said I had wasted a lot of time and money on scams.
    You seem to be a little bit edgy, but don’t accuse me of saying things I did not say.
    Thank you.
    Jinny

    1. If you were not, by inference suggesting that MMS might also be a scam, then please accept my apologies. You spent a lot of words conjecturing about something you are now denying that you believe, yet don’t seem certain that MMS is what it’s cracked up to be. So be it.

      Be well.

      Adam…

  310. Jinny Snow

    Dear Adam,
    Thank you for your many “words.” However, they do not answer my questions. Why does it take so many words to “not” answer questions?
    When I ordered the last product, the person running the show said pretty much what you are saying without answering anything and I was put on a wild goose chase, never able to get the “main” person. I finally found out he was in hiding and all my e mails were returned. Later, I found out the “main” man was not who or what was advertised of him and that his “corporation” or “qualifications” didn’t exist. I was asked not to contact them again with my questions.
    When I returned the recent order of the product (unopened) to an agent for a refund, they kept the product and my money. The product contained only water. (I checked the remaining amount from my last order.)
    I’m not saying the same will happen with MMS, but this was not the first product I used and the results were pretty much the same with each one.
    With that in mind how does a person justify using something if the references are not verified?
    Nobody seems to want to give me a name or anything except these people here and some of them have obviously posted false statements, even in somebody else’s name.
    Why does nobody have medical reports to prove what they say and why does Jim Humble say without hesitation in his book that cures were “100%”? When asked if MMS cured cancer he said “Yes, it will cure cancer”. That comment is on the internet. Now we are told he did not say it.
    Also, if it cures as quickly as he claims it does, why do so many people say they are still taking MMS a year later without a cure.
    Maybe you should really read the book again. He makes several undeniable statements and offers many references which he encourages people to check out. Why would he do that if they were not verifiable? And why do you instead of answering my questions, choose to talk down to me for asking? My questions are perfectly reasonable.
    Why do you lash out at someone for wanting information?
    I sincerely hope there are some miraculous cures.
    I sincerely hope there will be more.
    In the meantime, I will try to confirm the claims without any help, in the best way I can. Sick people don’t need the stress of futility on top of their sickness. It speeds the negative.
    Once again, thank you.
    Jinny

    1. Dear Jinny,

      We use “words” to communicate. You certainly use a lot to make an assertion that MMS is a scam when it is not. I could stop here, and we could be done. You seem to be talking about prior experiences with someone and a product which has nothing to do with whether MMS is valid or not.

      The truth is this: will MMS help “cure” cancer? YES, it CAN. WILL it “cure” YOUR cancer (assuming that is what you have)? It DEPENDS on YOU. It depends on where it is. It depends on your ATTITUDE, determination, commitment, trust and faith — not in MMS, but in YOURSELF.

      How long will it take? As long as it takes FOR YOU. Many people have “cured” their cancer using MMS. They didn’t use just one thing, they used many, including MMS. Their success will not help YOU whatsoever if YOU don’t understand what contributes to the growth and maintenance of tumors, and CHANGE those factors. If you want a “cure” without changing anything, then it’s unlikely to happen, no matter what you use.

      I have read the book, and am comfortable with the efficacy of MMS and chlorine dioxide. I have spoken to many doctors who now recommend it for a wide variety of pathogen overload conditions (cancer is a pathogen overload condition).

      I have given you information. Your perception of being talked down to, or lashed out at, are yours, and part of why your healing appears to remain out of reach. Please find something to believe in, starting with your self, for that where healing begins.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  311. Jim Wyatt

    I have been using MMS for over one year now and I must say that before beginning this, I was so utterly weak all of the time 24/7 and was wondering who was poisoning me. Found out I was the one with some very nasty habits which had to be cut out. All Junk foods, All fast food joints, all regular food stores, all irradiated foods and a self-imposed rule, only Whole Foods Stores will serve. The Local water supply is Fluoridated and the City Fathers know they were doing that to save their own lives or be murdered by Higher ups. Just another scam like global warming! Phoowey! fluoride is a by-product of smelting aluminum and they said “it’s good for your teeth!” happyjim 72 and feels like 52, YES!

  312. bruno random

    I’ve used MMS in minute quantities and it has stopped a flu in its tracks(at the very beginning of course).
    What’s the shelf-life?
    Can it be applied directly to aphtous ulcers?(mouth canker sores)
    Did you answer Chelsey’s question about dermatological/cosmetic uses?
    Bruno

  313. Jinny Snow

    Dear Adam,
    I ordered Jim Humble’s book and read it several times. I took all the references he said to check with addresses and all.
    I wrote to each of these in Africa and have no response in over a month. I tried to contact Mr. Humble but apparently he does not answer anyone.
    Can you tell me if some of the addresses have changed and if so, can you give current addresses? I have ordered so much from people who claim to have cures and have wasted a lot of time and money on scams. I don’t want to sound disrespectful, but when a person can’t check out the references they get a little suspicious.
    It is a shame that scammers ruin things for the real things, but it is also a shame for people to give false hope to sick people and let them die in their hope. Sometimes time is crucial.
    Jinny

    1. Dear Jinny,

      If you purchased Jim’s book and read it ALL, and think that MMS is a scam, then you’ve done yourself a great disservice, except of course, if you wanted to find a way to talk yourself out of using something that may actually help YOU.

      It is evident to me that you have a genuine motivation to find an alternative approach to what may be an acute medical condition, whether it is personal or general. However, you are basing your conclusion on the least important and least verifiable data that is contained in Jim’s book. The measure of whether MMS and chlorine dioxide is valid or not has NOTHING to do with whether the people in Africa who you wrote to reply to your letters, or the addresses check out. Its efficacy is based whether the science is valid and demonstrable, and whether the protocol itself produces the results that are on the order of the claims that Jim made, for the reasons stated, in his book.

      MMS use is EXPANDING because for over an estimated 500,000 people who have seen the real medical scam that is killing millions of Americans each year, have used their own judgment, and trusted their own intelligence, to safely reduce the levels of pathogens and toxicity that pollutes the waters that course through their body.

      The real scam is the idea that a toxic, molecular-centered, pharmaceutical-based, medical regimen is a viable way to help an individual heal and regain his or her health, as medical doctors and drug advertisements would have you believe. Their approach is formulaic. The patient becomes a number, or a “case.” They go by the book not even using their own intelligence, but guidelines dictated by product writers in the marketing department of the drug companies.

      Medical practices today don’t require that the patients be involved, feel empowered, or be active participants in the healing process. And so they don’t heal. Instead, they slide along the slippery slope of slow death through chronic disease. This is the normal way of doing things, and the reason that times have become dire for so many people. They don’t know who they are, or their own innate capabilities, which encompass the human body, but includes the mind and the spirit.

      The power of the human spirit is immeasurable. However, it can be shut down through fear, doubt, resentment, suspicion, confusion, paranoia, and negativity. Intelligence is also shut down when fear and its posse, are our guiding influences.

      You say you’re almost to the point of giving up… it suggests to me that you’ve not given up. However, who or what are you “giving up” on? MMS will work on people who understand what’s happening when they take it, and who understand that they are responsible for their life experiences, irrespective of what has happened around them.

      I’ve spoken to or heard from too many people who have experienced dramatic improvements in their health… from some very acute conditions… using MMS. I’ll tell you this: they don’t care one whit about whether the addresses of the people in Africa mentioned in Jim’s book are still valid. They paid attention to the inviolate information, made their decision, took positive action, endured the cleansing process (it’s sometimes not pleasant), and are now enjoying the fruits of their decision.

      The only way YOU can “verify” the efficacy of MMS or any other modality is by YOU using it on YOURSELF. If you only seek verification through others, you may indeed run out of time (this time). But it won’t be because MMS was a scam.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  314. Chelsey

    Any thoughts about the use of MMS applied topically to the face? I had great improvement with rosacea while applying MMS with DMSO on my body (never applied directly on my face yet it cleared my face). I’m afraid it may have an aging effect. I was thinking about trying it on my face without the use of DMSO since I’m only wanting it’s effect on my face.

    Chelsey

  315. ms. c

    Adam –

    Yes, I feel you. I AM the reason I am “sick” in the first place! MY THOUGHTS have put me in various states of dis-ease. Fortunately, now that I recognize this, I am reversing the THINKING that has caused the dis-ease, and it has led me to your information, and others. I am truly grateful for all that has been afforded me on this journey of mine.

    The truth is – realizing the power to HEAL MYSELF – without any outside intervention – is something that will facilitate MMS or whatever else to catapult me to wellness! I TOTALLY FEEL YOU on that one! Thank you for reminding me!

    As for the water, it’s been the feeling sick and the “inconvenience” of feeling sick that has deterred me from drinking more water – and using it with the MMS. Thanks to your comments, I’m getting over that. I am grateful that I don’t feel so desperate about my healing as I felt at the onset. In fact, the more I envision healing, the more it feels a reality!

    ANOTHER UPDATE: Part of the reason I avoided drinking water – especially at night – was because I was having these “accidents” as I slept at night. I’m talking having to get up about 4 times the night before last to go – and to clean myself up! One thing I did that night that was different from previous was that I ate about an hour before I went to bed.

    Well yesterday, I ate around 2pm. I was actually hungry, so it wasn’t an effort to eat a green salad and two raw food crackers. I later had some coconut water around 4:30. I also had 2 small bottles of water during that period. When I got home, I didn’t eat; just drank some water BEFORE I took the MMS, then went to bed.

    Ended up sleeping through the night with NO ACCIDENTS. I should say – since taking the MMS, I saw no solid stool; only liquid, which concerned me. I know diarrehea is actually an indication that there’s a blockage, and that only liquid can come through.

    Anyway, as I got up to do my morning evacuation, what came out was FOUL. And while it had some “substance” to it, it was kind of “squggily”; like worms – but not worms (I know it wasn’t; I checked w/a bamboo skewer. I actually thought I’d see worms, but not yet – at least, to my knowledge and understanding…) – I know this may seem “gross” to some reading this, but I don’t have any problem talking about this, because it’s all about HEALING.

    After releasing that, I felt better (was feeling not at my best prior; can’t say I was nauseous; a bit “queasy” is the best I can describe it).

    One thing I rarely experienced prior to this course of therapy was feeling energized from the food I ate. I’m talking FRESH herbs, superfoods – you name it! I knew something was amiss, but I didn’t know how to remedy it. I did trust I would find the answer, sooner or later…

    Well, this afternoon, I was feeling a little weak and sleepy. Took a nap; got the message to go pick some dandelion greens from a plant that was growing natural in my front yard. Pulled up the entire plant; it was a hearty specimen; nice, thick, juicy stalk. Picked off the leaves to wash, and ate that stalk.

    I’m telling you – not one minute later, I felt ENERGY from that plant! I just have to GIVE THANKS for FINALLY being able to assimilate nutrients! Even prior to MMS, I felt generally weak; had to really rev myself up mentally to do any physical activity. Now, I’m seeing a more active future, and I can honestly say based on this experience alone, there is something to this MMS. And of course, as you said – and I’ll paraphrase – the MMS is facilitating an OUTER REFLECTION of MY INNER DESIRE to heal. All Is Well.

    Peace and Gratitude to You, ms. c.

    P.S. – I’ll get on that water! Thanks!

  316. ms. c

    Hi again, Adam

    Thanks for taking the time to tell us all how you got involved with MMS.

    I have a question regarding the type of juice used after mixing the mms with the citrus. I’ve been using juice from key limes, which I know is fine. What concerns me is what was stated in your opening statement about the type of juice to use once the mms has been activated w/the citrus. You stated to only use juice that has been freshly-extracted, or use water.

    I’ve been using a high-quality brand of organic unfiltered apple juice. It is not “freshly extracted”, but it is not from a concentrate, and it does not contain any ascorbic acid or citric acid additive. It has been pasturized.

    Are you saying I’ve been wasting my time using this apple juice? 🙁 I tried water once – about the second time I took the 15/75 ratio dose. It made me pretty sick! So, I decided to stick to the juice. I will have been on the regimen for a week this coming Monday.

    UPDATE: Last night, I experienced no diarrehea “accidents” while sleeping! I also didn’t eat close to going to bed, and I only drank a small amount of water before retiring. Was weak yesterday, still. Haven’t had an appetite. Will see how it goes today…

    I am concerned that I may become dehydrated from the diarrehea, coupled with not knowing how to work drinking water into this regimen. Hoping you have ideas on the best way to handle this too.

    Thanks for all your help, ms. c

    1. Ms. C,

      What you demonstrated to yourself when you took the 15/75 with water, was how the potency of MMS/chlorine dioxide is INCREASED when water is used versus juice. It didn’t “make you *sick*”, it simply WORKED more powerfully. Chlorine dioxide will “work” even when you use juice. However, you will need to use more drops, for a longer period of time in order to get the same results that could be achieved on fewer drops of water.

      In my opinion you were not wasting your time using the apple juice. It doesn’t have to be “freshly extracted,” though it should be natural, with no vitamin C added. HOWEVER, please CONSIDER that YOU are THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN YOUR HEALING ODYSSEY. What I’m saying is that the information regarding the use of MMS are guidelines and not rigid or strict “rules.” There are people who have taken MMS, and have such profound pathogen reduction events (PRE’s) that, all they have to do is THINK about using it, and they begin to feel nauseous and then detox.

      What that means to me is that here is a person who has learned how to detox WITHOUT the MMS. They should still do it, although we know it is not necessarily pleasant, but as long as the need to continue the pathogen reduction is present, it should be done. Yet, if a person has come to know how to do it, then there’s no need to take the MMS. We haven’t generally come to that understanding about OURSELVES yet… that WE often think we need something (or someone) else to make things happen for us.

      Why be concerned that the diarrhea will dehydrate you? DRINK MORE WATER BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER taking MMS. As a rule of thumb, you should normally drink 1/2 your body weight in ounces of water each day. A 120 lb person would then drink 60 ounces of water daily. The water should be STRUCTURED, as it is ALIVE, super hydrating, and what the body is designed to work on.

      Here’s a short video interview I produced on a structured water device.

      Water is not “filler” to be taken simply to keep your palette wet. The human body is designed to get energy from water (hydrogen), as well as oxygen. That’s why you can go without food far longer than you can without water. You can feel weak from not having enough water in your system. It’s also a sign of dehydration that we often don’t read correctly.

      A great book to read on hydration is “Your Body’s Many Cries for Water” by Dr. F. Batmanghelidj (http://www.watercure.com).

      Best wishes in your “healthing” process.

      Adam…

  317. ms. c

    Moongirl (and all) –

    I just realized I said I fasted for 3 months – when actually, I fasted for 40 days! What an error! Just thought I’d correct that, so I wouldn’t mislead anyone.

    Peace, ms. c.

  318. Clint

    Kenna:

    Am not sure if this is the site you saw, but it has some info:

    http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/heartworm_questions.html

  319. Kenna Dodds

    I ordered several bottles of MMS several months ago. I thought I had read something about using it for heartworms in dogs but can’t find any reference to it now. Can you please explain what it does and what the protocal is? Thanks

  320. moongirl

    Can you also let me know on any consquences for not having waited the 3minutes for activation as well as drinking alcohol?

    Much appreciated…

    1. If there were any consequences, you would have experienced them by now. Chlorine dioxide does not act like pharmaceutical chemicals that create other toxic concoctions when combined with other pharmaceuticals. As far as celebrating your birthday, you’re not going to hurt anything if you give yourself a day not concerning yourself about what happens if you take it. Just my opinion, but getting balanced again also means celebrating life, having fun and being joyful. Part of the problem with “modern medicine” is that its practitioners expect us to allow the meds to override living, loving, and enjoying life, and when that happens, we stop living, loving, and enjoying life. Our ability and willingness to live, love, and enjoy life, is part of what makes us healthy, and when we are not, it helps us to heal.

      Happy BIRTHDAY!!!

      Adam…

  321. moongirl

    Hi Ms C,
    Yes, I totally understand. I noticed on Jim Humble’s website that he tells people to do the same thing, virus to get rid of, work your way up to 15 drops for 2 weeks and that should do it, but no talk about the antibodies and of course stories of it actually working. I wonder if there have been replies but they were just not posted. Hard to say, regardless, I do hope it works.

    Anyone,
    I’d like to know how you put MMS as an IV without having the medical equipment necessary to do so? How do you know you are getting it in your blood vein correctly? I wouldn’t trying it, but a little scared I wouldn’t get it in the right area.

    1. Moon,

      While producing my documentary, Jim Humble was experimenting with IV intake of MMS. I filmed some of his sessions. However, he later abandoned the approach, in part because of his vein simply saying “no” to further use in that way (which is a good sign), and learning later that there are other, more effective ways to take it, including via enemas, and even taking a bath (not a bath full of MMS, but one in which a small amount of activated solution has been added).

      Thank you for your helpful contributions here.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  322. ms. c

    Hi Moongirl –

    Thanks for helping me out with this question. I really have doubts personally about the testing system, now that I think about it – for a couple of reasons.

    Apparently, I’ve had the virus for years, but ironically did not find out until my partner of 7 years had sex with someone else, and the guilt I put on him prompted him to get tested.

    Check this: He tested positive for herpes 1; me, for herpes 2 – BUT – NEITHER of us passed our virus to the other, according to our respective tests, which were conducted in completely different locales. Mind you – we practiced unprotected sex; practices that would be considered “risky” for anyone trying to avoid these viruses.

    I also fasted for 3 months in an attempt to rid myself of the disease, but when I tested again, it came up positive again. It did work for at least one person met, however. The regimen we both used involved a herbal therapy. He was on the regimen WITHOUT FASTING – for about a year. He basically ate a vegan diet and took herbal therapies. I fasted literally TO THE BONE, but still had the virus afterwards – ACCORDING TO THE TEST.

    Mind you – I don’t recall having any symptoms. No outbreaks that I could identify as herpes. Even now, I don’t have any indications that I have the virus. I’m attributing this – and the fact that I did not contract herpes 1 from my ex (nor did he contract herpes 2 from me) because we were both heavily on these cleansing and blood-building herbs, along with a primarily vegan diet – with minimal to no starch (I was eating fish when I was with him, but not now).

    My good friend told me that I should not fret about the tests; what the doctors say – but there is such shame surrounded around the virus. When I was doing the fast, I was also in this state of panic and self-deprecation. The fast probably could’ve worked if I had a more relaxed, loving attitude.

    I am currently trying the MMS. Because I haven’t experienced outbreaks, I can’t say I’m seeing a difference. It will be a week Monday; so far, got nausea which subsided, followed by diarrhea – to the point that it wakes me at night, and at times, I’ve awakened TOO LATE. DRAG! Also feel weakness.

    Anyway, I’ve been reading various blogs on the subject, and I was wondering why no one was getting tested. Your comment is helping me understand. Thanks, and All the Best to You, ms. c.

  323. ms. c

    Hi Adam,
    I was wondering what got you involved with MMS? Perhaps this is a redundant question, and I apologize for begging you to possibly repeat yourself – but I think it would be helpful to those reading this blog to understand your point of reference.

    Not to be rude, but do you have a story of dis-ease that MMS helped or reversed? If you do not wish to repeat yourself and have some reference to this on the web that you can offer a link to, I think everyone coming to this blog for answers and better understanding will appreciate having access to this important info.

    Thanks for all you help, ms. c.

    1. Hi Ms. C.

      I was introduced to MMS in August of 2007 by David Dartez, owner of Global Light Network, with whom I had worked for two years prior, as I published a book titled, Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. While I had been a publisher for about 10 years, I was new to broadcast media, having just started my radio show, Talk For Food, that same month.

      I resisted reading Jim’s ebooks at first, electing to go plunge right in and see what this stuff was about after talking to David. I did not have anything in particular I was trying to “get,” but just knew that there was likely toxicity in my system that could stand coming out.

      For me, it happened on day four, with four drops. I had a major “pathogen reduction event,” with stuff coming out of every orifice except my ears and eyes.

      A few days later, after things got back to “normal,” I elected to read his book from cover to cover, and learn what this stuff was, what it did, why, and what the implications were. I also did further research, seeking and finding other sources of information on chlorine dioxide, its properties, and uses. I came to feel that this was useful stuff.

      After that experience I sat down and wrote the article at the top of this page, which encapsulated my take on what MMS is, how it works, how to use it, and what one might anticipate from its use, not only from a reactive standpoint, but long term, in terms of health.

      After publishing that article, traffic on what had been a sleepy blog, began to grow dramatically. Clearly, people are interested in this subject, because it wasn’t me they were looking up. 🙂 At the same time, having a radio show gave me reason to reach out to Jim and invite him on. He agreed, and we began the first (and second) of what have so far become seven conversations. A couple months later, I traveled to Mexico and met Jim in person and we shot what became my documentary on the subject (http://www.understanding-mms.com).

      And now, here we are.

      Adam…

  324. moongirl

    Ms. C,
    Once tested for positive antibodies to fight off the diseases in your blood, it is most likely not going to test negative. However, I do know someone who did test positive once and then tested negative, still having the outbreaks. So even if you did test negative, it still can give you incorrect results. But it would be nice to hear if someone has done the before and after with correct results.

  325. ms. c

    Somebody out there PLEASE educate me on this question:

    I’ve noticed several comments – not just on this site, but on others – where people with the genital herpes virus specifically are treating it with MMS, and are wondering if they still have the disease, after a course of MMS treatment.

    I’m confused by their bewilderment because I don’t know about other parts of the world, but in the U.S., there are clinics where people can GET TESTED for herpes and a number of other diseases.

    How did you find out you had herpes in the first place. My guess is that you were tested. Why not get tested now – to find out if it’s been irradicated?

    If you are one of the people out there that has been taking MMS for herpes, and are wondering if you are cured, why don’t you simply go to a doctor or clinic and GET A TEST to confirm? I don’t get it!

    Please enlighten me on this. The fact that I’ve read several accounts from folks treating the disease w/MMS – and not getting tested to see if it’s gone – is odd, and baffling to me.

    Peace and Healing to All, ms. c

  326. moongirl

    Also is it possible to delete my first questions waaaay up there? Actually I shouldnt have posted the one I just did prior to this with such detail. I want to forward this site to my friends but dont want them to know my personal circumstances. I’m sure they’ll know its me.

  327. moongirl

    Hi there,
    I’m up to 15 drops with no major nausea or side effects yet, however, i just made myself a batch, and (not thinking) I didn’t wait the 3 minutes to activate it. What are consequences?

    Also I’ll be celebrating my bday tomorrow, and plan on having wine. Consequences to wine? Should I skip mms for tomorrow?

    And finally, is there another way to measure 15 drops, tsp or tbsp? I had to throw out a few batches because I couldnt remember if i did 65 or 75 drops …

  328. CdnFarmgirl

    Adam, a question about your MMS baths. Could you please either describe here or send me an email with the protocol you use for this? ie. how many drops for bathtub size, if and for how long is it activated, etc? Many thanks.

    Also, FYI, was at a Healing Group meeting last week, and the speaker spoke for quite a bit about structured water..I can see now why you’re so excited about it!

    1. Hi Julie!

      The guideline that Jim suggested to me was twenty drops (activated with 100 drops of citric acid), activated for three minutes as usual, and then pour into the bathwater. It’s most likely that the solution will continue to generate chlorine dioxide in the same way, and for the same duration that it does internally.

      I’m very excited about structured water because it will kick start many of the healing processes that MMS works on, yet they don’t compete. I believe it was you who pointed out there may be a difference between taking water with MMS and drinking juice, and it now makes sense, especially if it is structured water. I had a major “pathogen residue release” with only four drops of MMS, but the drinking water that I used was structured. I didn’t understand the nuances of any of these factors at that time.

      This is not an MMS-only issue. Hydration is fundamental to good health, and adequate intake of structured water is fundamental to hydration.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  329. Thomas

    Well, got to 12×2 and got the most explosive “firehose” eliminations. Dropped back to 10×2 and no change, stopped completely, and still no change.
    Am now assuming it is some food borne pathogen causing it, so now trying 15 to clear it up.
    Could also just be decades of bad living rushing to leave.
    I can affirm that I have lost 5 lbs of junk, as for 2 of the days of discomfort, I ate nothing (while remaining hydrated) and still discharged nasty stuff.
    And I was fairly sure I was cleaned out before I tried the protocol. I was mistaken.

    Small positive changes noted:
    Arthritis symptoms better.
    Circulation better.
    Food cravings gone.
    Hemorrhoids disappeared.

    Negatives:
    Still “spacey” for hours after each dose.
    Everything that goes in the top comes out the bottom in 1/2 to 1 hr. But monitoring the situation to determine the actual cause.

    Still looking for comments on the chagas parasite.
    Has it been tried, or will I be the first?

    1. Thomas,

      Great progress. As for the parasite, my understanding is that the cell wall of parasites are low pH… in the acidic range, which means that it doesn’t matter what they are called, they would give up electrons to the chlorine dioxide molecule on contact, and cease to be.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  330. Kan

    Hi adam,

    I have a quick question. My fiance that is taking mms with me (who has hep. b) finds that when he takes it he gets a lot of energy and his allergy’s are way down! The other day he did not take mms and found he was super tired and lazy. Like rreeaaalllyy tired. Typical behavior for him though, but i think he felt more tired because he got used to having energy. He is just doing the typical protocal upping his dose by one drop each time and taking mms twice a day sometimes once a day. I was wondering, since he has hepititis b, should he be taking more? and more often?

    also, i was thinking maybe its not a good idea for him to stop taking it because what if his liver is used to the extra help and if now fighting the virus and then doesnt get the help anymore, i wonder if that would just really be hard on his immune system? I would totally appreciate it if you could maybe describe to me a good protocol for him? Also, is he supposed to eat after taking it, will that disturb the process?

    Cheers!
    Love this forum!

    1. Hi Kandice,

      Sounds like our fiance is experiencing some of his “potential self” when the pathogen load in his body is reduced.

      PERSONALLY, I would NOT claim ownership of “hepatitis” or make it the reason to increase the MMS. How does he feel, and also what else is he doing for himself? Hydration is actually MORE important than taking MMS (see my comments and articles on structured water and links). Remineralization is also important, which can be achieved with various natural super nutrients that provide full spectrum of minerals, amino-acids, stimulate enzyme activity, and replenish the body’s population of aerobic micro-organisms (probiotics). This should be a life long activity. MMS need not be. A good source of super nourishment >> http://shop.understanding-mms.com/wholefoods.aspx

      If possible, he should give himself a couple hours after taking MMS before eating.

      Best wishes to both of you,

      Adam…

  331. Kan

    i also wanted to know.. since strawberries have vitamin c in them how long after i take mms can i eat foods such as strawberries? Or any food containing vitamin c? I love oranges as well. Can you be on mms protocol and still enjoy an orange occasionally?

    1. Kan,

      You don’t have to give up fruits because they have vitamin C. You should avoid any fruit juices that have had vit. C added, particularly around the time you are taking MMS, as the additive would “turn off” the process of generating chlorine dioxide. If you have any concerns about that, give yourself a couple hours between taking MMS and enjoying your fruit.

      A~

  332. Kan

    Dear Adam,

    I am so glad to have found mms! I have suffered from extreme acid reflux and back problems (which i think relate to eachother) my entire life and also believe that i have a massive infestation of parasites! I believe this because of intense sugar cravings, mood swings, digestive issues and a long list of health issues. I have bladder lining issues, ovarian cysts and irregular bowel mvmnts. Anyways i am also only 22 years old. I made a commitment a few years ago to clean up my diet, exercise regularly and seek out a way to cure myself. After years and years of specialists, medical persciptions and horrible side effects with no positive relief, in despiration i turned to natural remidies. I have tried EVERYTHING else except invasive surgery which was recomended for both my stomach and my back!

    I have been taking mms now for about a week or so. I am not experiencing heart burnt anymore yet my food still comes up but not nearly as much! My sugar and bad food cravings are more then bareable because before i would almost shake and get really angry if i couldnt have sugar. I am at 13 drops and do not feel any nausea or diharea. I cannot stand the smell or taste of mms and thats the only thing that makes me feel sick so if i hold my breath and then drink it with juice and then leave the room i am totaly fine. The experiences i am having it like major rumbles in my stomach all day almost. I am also experiencing stomach bloating, gas and my bowel movements are still the same hard pebles they always have been with a change in colour. (they are lighter then before).. Is there anything i can do to help me eliminate the junk accumulating in my intestines easier? I am sure there is a lot of dead parasitic waste waiting to be excreted with perhaps a blockage somewhere?

    Hope that wasn’t tmi for everyone, i hope someone out there reading this can relate to my situation and maybe have some inspiration regarding acid reflux?

    I will keep you posted on how my progress goes, again for anyone who can benifit.

    Also, my partner is taking it to and has hep. B,
    He also is noticing less bad food cravings and a huge increase in energy (he usually has to nap frequently due to the hep.b)

    Kan

    1. Hi Kan,

      It is helpful to know what you are experiencing. Sounds like your body has indeed been toxic (out of balance) for some time, and that the MMS/chlorine dioxide is finding “stuff” to oxidize.

      I experienced some of the same effects when I began using MMS, and would suggest that you drink more water, particularly structured water. Drinking liquids that are water-based does not necessarily hydrate your body. Only water that holds a crystalline structure will do that… not only hydrating, but removing waste from the cells.

      Although you haven’t experienced nausea or diarrhea, the bloating and gnarly turds suggest that the MMS is working nonetheless. Your question about clearing the “junk” in your intestine seems appropriate. For your intestinal lining you might consider using a safe, natural product called Oxy-Powder. It’s not a laxative, but will loosen up anything undigested waste material that may be in the intestinal tract. It comes in capsule form, and consists of a natural blend of oxygen and magnesium. You take four capsules before going to sleep for seven days (maintenance or as needed thereafter).

      While you sleep, the oxygen will dissolve any compacted “stuff” that may be lining your intestinal tract. This stuff would be a natural “nest” for bacteria and parasites, as it would definitely be acidic. It should induce more frequent “movements,” and make the intestinal wall more accessible to MMS.

      You can find Oxy-Powder >> http://shop.understanding-mms.com/oxy-powder.aspx

      Thank you again for sharing. You’ve got a great attitude.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  333. su

    What happened to Howie?

  334. STEVE

    Can MMS solution, once activated, be drunk with anything contianing alcohol ie beer, or milk, As most fruit jucie have vit c in them and ones without alway go off to quick.

    Do you have any other ideas as to how it can be drunk because the pure activated MMS realy taste foul !! Cheers, steve

    1. Steve,

      Personally, I’m of the belief that if you drink MMS with water, particularly structured water, then it may not be necessary to try to take 15 drops at a time. Water is a natural carrier of oxygen and hydrogen into the cell, and waste product out. It will enhance the power of chlorine dioxide, unlike any other liquid.

      I’d suggest that you take only as much as you feel you can handle, because that is probably going to be all that you need. And, if you find that the mere *thought* of drinking MMS with water makes you feel nauseous, I’d suggest GOING with the thought, as it means that you are doing what is possibly the purest form of detox, through the power of your mind.

      When the pathogen imbalance (or infestation) has been abated, you will not get nauseous at the thought of using MMS, or by using it.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  335. Clint

    Chelsey:

    If I was in your situation, I would seriously consider taking Colloidal Silver.. . . and maybe start taking the MMS into your system via the digestive tract. Then alter the way you take the MMS every few weeks.

    Between the Silver and the MMS (depending on how good your diet is) . . . there should be some improvement.

    Clint

  336. Chelsey

    Hi all,

    Just wanted to update anyone interested in my experience with MMS/DMSO applied topically as prescribed by my doctor. I used it for a total of 9 weeks. One unexpected positive result is that my rosacea cleared up dramatically. Other than that I have no other positive results to report. My doctor compared my bloodwork before and after treatment and saw that my virus load had very little change. Some increased a tiny bit and one decreased a tiny bit. I have no changes in the way I feel, except the relief of not feeling sick during the treatment. The teeth sensitivity I was experiencing during treatment did go away. Good luck to all of you on your quest for better health.

    Chelsey

  337. Clint

    Thomas:

    Thanks for sharing your info… hope you plan on drinking more than normal amounts of water for yourself in the next few weeks !

    . . . . look forward to hearing a successful result !

    Clint

  338. Thomas

    Just started MMS yesterday, after several weeks of perusing the numerous postings, both pro and con that seem to be all over the net currently. I have been using EDTA as a chelator for a couple of years to very good effect at reducing arthritis symptoms and heavy metal buildup. As I posted to the retailer of the EDTA “I don’t care if it is just a placebo effect as many claim, it works for me–by any modality you wish to attribute–and is exceedingly cheap compared to FDA approved methods.”
    I did prepare for the MMS regimen by first completing a GI flush and re-population of beneficial flora, so the MMS has less to work upon, and plan on increasing by 2 drops a day until my threshold is reached—or 15 drops, whichever comes first.
    @ day two and 4 drops, no ill effects, and only a slight fogginess in my thinking to evidence any activity of the MMS.
    I will be monitoring and reporting on the effect it has on several pesky medical issues I have with the same caveat “if it works, it doesn’t matter if it does because of the stated chemical reactions, or only because I believe it does—the end result is the same, and it is cheap to try.”
    I would be very interested in reports of it’s effectiveness in trypanosomiasis (chagas) parasites. I have many friends and family in southern Mexico where this is an eventually fatal problem with no effective treatment, years and sometimes decades of suffering, and no solution except to eradicate the carriers with poisons that debilitate the surrounding residents.

  339. Cynthia

    Hello there….
    I am going to venture out and take a chance to comment on what has transpired here about MMS and us. We are lucky enough to have been educated about MMS. There are plenty of people that have not and we need to have ALOT of patience with them. Without the proper education on the subject I might be the one spouting off myself….but on the other hand I TRY to get all the facts before I say something. I have recieved 2 messages from people saying I am taking Bleach from another website that shows you the protol call on measuring the MMS and now the website has been removed from the internet by the user…..I venture to say he has recieved some slack for the video and am very Sorry to see the educational video gone. He is dealing with Cancer and took his time and effort to help others and now that source is gone. This makes me feel sad. I try to help others and let them know about MMS and they have turned on me….I hope this website will continue to thrive. I feel very sorry that there are some out in our society that are not open to natural medicine and condemn us for looking to the source where we came from for the answers to our afflections. From the research I have done in the past….it is because of all of the processed food that is given to us to eat that we are where we are today. It should be everyone’s right to grow there own food and then maybe we would not be so sick….but this type of society has us in a rat race that has our time limited and therefore the stores are packed with these unhealthy foods. The healthier the foods there are the more money you spend and therefore the more time at work you spend. Oh…well…I just feel very sorry and helpless at times when the ones who need this MMS the most are not taking it because they THINK we are crazy.
    Sincerely

    1. Cynthia,

      Thank you for your insights. The site will thrive as long as caring, intelligent people continue to share.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  340. Cynthia

    Hello there…
    I have been taking city water and dropping 5 MMS drops into a gallon of city water and drinking this with the MMS after allowing the water to sit overnite. Also, I have been making my own lemonade to take with the MMS. One cup of Lemon juice, one cup of sugar, and 6 and a half cups of this water that is allowed to sit over nite for 24 hours. This way I don’t have to worry about the vit.C content and the taste is invisible to my tasted buds…anyway……I hope this helps someone with the taste of MMS.
    Sincerely

  341. Brian

    Hello,

    Thank you for providing this informative thread on MMS.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on whether or not a lactating mother could use MMS?

    1. Hi Brian,

      The lactating mother must ask herself whether she wants to transfer pathogens to her newborn. Only she knows how toxic her own body may be. Unlike when simply bathing an infant in a tub of chlorine and fluoride added water, which will produce its own side effects once they absorbed, MMS/chlorine dioxide produces no residual chain reactions with chemicals that are in the body. As such, it will oxidize that which is within its range of reactivity (low pH, positive ionic charged molecules and microorganisms), leaving everything else unaffected.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  342. CdnFarmgirl

    Just following the recent posts…My sentiments exactly, Clint!

    Julie

  343. Clint

    I say spend energy on the positive side of things, and not waste any time on rogue, phantom people who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

    I know in my heart of hearts that Jim is an honest man…. and to call him a ‘Snake Oil salesman’ when he doesn’t even sell MMS, as well that it’s (MMS) $20 for a years supply ….. is ludicrous !

    I look forward to seeing your interview with Jim…. and thanks for being at the forefront of all this… you are greatly appreciated !

    Clint

  344. Clint

    I think at this point, (for me at least) it’s pretty clear that MMS is able to stand on it’s OWN 2 feet Adam… regarding it’s success . . . and for people like “Some Dude” to put it down, clearly shows his ignorance.

    Even a medical Dr. like Dr. Hagglund uses it… so HE must know something that ‘Some Dude’ doesn’t ! 😉

    http://doctortalk.com/archives.htm

    Clint

    1. You’re so right Clint! I believe that awareness of MMS is happening in waves, when a fresh new group of ignorant “smart asses” walk in, unannounced and blind, and begins slinging their ignorance around like a food fight in the high school cafeteria.

      I could have simply deleted his comments, but couldn’t ignore them, as someone new like him might not know how wrong he is.

      I visited with Jim this weekend. He’s still weak from an escapade he took to Africa. He invited me to hear the story and put it on tape. I’ll be getting the footage together over the next few days. I also asked him the pimple question on camera, which he answered pretty much as I replied a short while ago.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  345. some dude

    you’ll have to forgive me.

    1. Hello? Transdermal application to avoid nasuea etc.? You know they have some slick, non-burning stuff to replace DMSO now, right? but…

    2. This is an oxidation formula. Oxygen doesn’t discriminate and it doesn’t have a brain. For MMS to affect cancerous cells, virii or bacteria you’d have to take enough to make it go systematic. Otherwise it’s going to react to the first electrons it finds… which are everywhere. but…

    3. Jim Humble is a gold miner. He’s selling you bleach. Do you get it yet?

    Like every other human, I don’t want everyone I love to get sick and die, but it will not be so.

    And this is exploitation.

    1. Yo Dude,

      I’d be happy to forgive you if you presented your position with any intelligence. You walk in here, secure in your anonymity with your arrogant pronouncements that have no basis in fact. Perhaps you don’t know that your body is filled with chloride, without which it would cease to function. Even though it has a chlorine atom, which unto itself in sufficient quantity would kill you, the body carries on. Chlorine dioxide is not bleach, yet, on a recent episode of a TV show called Eleventh Hour, the very thing that was needed to save a woman’s life that the central character used, was BLEACH.

      As I watched, I thought how great it would have been if they used chlorine dioxide, and were able to explain the distinction between that and bleach.

      Your pronouncements smack of uninformed authority. Your judgments vapid (look it up).

      Please inform yourself and get some manners, and whether you agree or disagree with the use of MMS, respect the intelligence of others and right to make their own decision. Of course, you’ll have to exercise your own intelligence to do it, but I believe in you. You’ll find some very nice, informed, intelligent, and helpful people here.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  346. Ed

    Thank you both for the info.

    Adam this is what I am doing.

    My history: In Oct. o8, I was diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer, after having X ray, CT Scan, Bone Scan, and physical examination, Prognosis incurable, and over two dozen Tumors in the Bones only.

    Treatment: Hormone, a small capsule placed under the skin, last three months, stops cancer from spreading, when body rejects???

    I have been taking MMS since Feb. 18, 09. I worked up to 15 drops 3 times a day, ( with 5X citric acid solution,) for 7 days, cut back to 6 drops 3 times a day, for 4 days, than 6 drops 2 times a day, for 3 days, and now at 3 drops 3 times a day, and still there.

    Using a scale of 10, I try to regulate my pain level between 3 and 4 therefor not using pain killers. ( Herxheimer reaction)

    I will have blood samples taken every three months to check PSA count. (my first count was 200.86, after 5 weeks into the hormone treatment had blood sample taken count was 5.54.

    Am I on the right track.

    Thank you; Ed.

  347. Blade

    For those who have to tried MMS and have had a failure with it, I have a few suggestions why it possibly did not respond to your body. First off, when taking MMS, you MUST take it correctly at ALL times otherwise there is no point of trying this. Second under NO circumstance must you take any form of Vitamin C whatsoever. Whether its prescription Pills or Orange Juice or anything that contains Vitamin C, note that you must NOT take it with MMS because it Neutralizes it, which means it wont work with Vitamin C. Now if you are taking some form of prescription, take MMS first and Wait for at least 3 hours before taking your prescription. This goes for the morning and in the evening. You must also NOT drink any alcohol with MMS.
    You start off with 1 drop of MMS with 5 drops of citric acid. Then increase 1 drop of MMS and 5 drops of citric acid, EVERYday till you reach 15 drops of MMS and 75 drops of citric acid WITHOUT SIDE-EFFECTS for at least a month. Many People stop doing MMS because the side effects are too much for them. Side effects are good because your body is getting rid of the bad things in your body. Now there is no rush to MMS. So If you happen to be at 4 drops and the side effects are too strong, then decrease the drops for a few more days till you reach 4 drops WITHOUT side effects.

    So remember, your goal is to Reach 15 DROPS of MMS and 75 Drops of CITRIC ACID WITHOUT side effects.
    Hopefully this helps!

  348. pascal

    Hello,
    I live in Berlin/Germany. I’m waiting for my MMS, it’s ordered and on the way.
    I’ve caught some bugs by sexual intercourse about 3 weeks ago. definitaly chlamydia are part of my infection, maybe even mycoplasma. My doctor recommended a single dose of zyhtromax that I took a week ago. It had some good effect on my overall discomfort, but didn’t completely cure my symptoms (urethritis, conjunctivitis) so far.
    my question:
    Does anyone have some idea or experience how well MMS works to eliminate chlamydia or mycoplasma.

    blessings,
    pascal

  349. Cecilia

    Ed, looking back through other responses, I think you should read the comments and read the whole website. I think you will benefit from the information already here. For example, from Jan. 16, here is Adam’s comment:

    spoke to a man who eliminated his basal cell carcinoma the old fashion MMS way, by taking it orally. He didn’t mention DMSO at all, although you can certainly use it. Are you familiar with the “Overnight Cure for Cancer” protocol that uses activated MMS, and then bound with DMSO, to be applied topically? Here’s the link:

    http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html

    Ed, this particular comment may not help you, but I’m sure there are other comments that you could read that would give info.

  350. Cecilia

    Ed, I’m sorry. I don’t have experience with this, but I am sending you beams. I have heard that tea made from turkey tail (polypore mushroom) is useful in cancer. I get it from fungi.com and it has helped to bring down my partner’s PSA count, although he has BPH, not cancer.

    I have read of people using MMS for all kinds of issues; you may as well try it and the sooner the better.

  351. Ed

    I have advanced prostate cancer, is anybody useing MMS with this condition.

    1. Hi Ed,

      Yes, MMS is being used by people with prostate conditions. I interviewed one in my documentary. I would suggest you visit http://www.cancertutor.com for some ideas and support.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  352. Cynthia

    Thank you Clint. Where can I get the MSM and it is dried DMSO?

  353. Cecilia

    Hello, nice to read so many upbeat people talking about health.

    I am taking MMS, and am up to 15 drops twice daily. My personal experience is that the Big D Hurricane started at 7 drops and is only now abating. Yow. I never stopped MMS during this because I didn’t really feel bad. Occasional twinges in the liver area, and other areas, but OK really.

    Today, I notice a gum swelling has gone away, and I feel kind of good in a nonspecific way.

    During the beginning, a break-out occurred on the left side of my face, corresponding with the small intestine meridian. Those went away quickly without intervention.

    My experience is, if you’re having a rash or break out in a certain area on your body, look up a map of the body with the chinese meridians on it and also acupuncture points, to see if there is a correlation.

  354. Sergio

    Hello, my girlfriend is 15 years old and has been found to have an high grade glioma, the doctors complitely removed the glioma and shes now doing radio and chemo therapy and having an alkaline diet which i heard is good for fighting cancer.But if theres a recurence is there any possible way that we can help her? like a treatment or even a cure, shes really important to us and her family will take her anywhere necessary to treat her so if anyone here could help I’d be very thankful.

  355. Clint

    Cynthia:

    Haven’t heard that before . . . but . . .

    I know MSM (Methylsulphonylmethane) NOT the MMS… can act as a blood thinner.

    It is the dried version of DMSO, as we have been talking about in earlier posts.

    The MSM open the detoxification pathways in a person’s body, and, in my experience, actually helps to drive the MMS deeper into the tissues internally.

    hope this helps,

    Clint

  356. cynthia

    Hello there….
    I was wondering if this has been already covered…Can MMS act as a blood thinner? I sure could use one…any thoughts.

  357. Alex

    Hi Adam.
    I m using mms , and I just mix it with water, that is treated with prill beads. My question is, if prill water is the same as structured water?

    regards,

    Alex
    Canada

  358. denni

    What did Jim say about the pimples??
    Thanks Adam..

    1. Denni,

      I talked to Jim the other day, and asked him about the pimples. He said that with continued use, the chlorine dioxide often gets to deeper levels, accessing pockets or colonies of microorganisms that had been previously inaccessible. He was talking about over an extended period of use, like six months to a year. It’s simply the “fight or flight” process all over. The microorganisms cannot “fight” chlorine dioxide, so they flee, that is, until they run out of real estate.

      He suggested making a strong solution of MMS… 20 drops and 100 drops of citric acid, and placing in a 2 oz spray bottle, filling the rest with water (preferably structured), and spraying it topically at the site of the eruption. The solution will maintain its potency for several days.

      I am going down to see him at the end of the week, and we will record a new interview at that time. He will also talk about his recent trip to Niger. I’ll videotape the interview and add pictures that were taken.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  359. denni

    Adam, If I add ph booster drops to my water, would it then be considered structured??

    1. Hi Denni,

      No… adding pH booster alone won’t structure the water. Structuring water also clears its memory of information that it has gathered since it was last “rebooted.” You can structure water yourself after adding the pH booster by stirring the water counterclockwise. You can destabilize water by stirring clockwise. I like this new structuring device because I don’t have to think about it, and can freely drink tap water once again without having to go out and buy bottled water and then structure it. Of course you tend to use it only for drinking, when you still cook, shower, bathe, and do laundry with chemicalized water.

      I’m preparing some video snippets from my radio interview with Clayton about structured water. And I have a second interview that’ll be online as a new radio show in a few weeks, that continues the subject.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  360. Clare

    Adam
    Your Talk for food show…… can I access it on the net? not into short wave radio (ha ha).
    Got your email, will be in touch
    Clare

  361. Clint

    Adam:

    I was thinking this last message from denni might warrant a phone call to Jim, and ask him about these ever so popular pimples.

    They seem to be popping up with now a lot of people. This has got my attention now.

    Just a thought…

    Clint

    1. Hi Clint. I’ve exchanged a couple emails with Jim in the past few hours, potentially, to talk about new labeling changes, dissolution of endorsement arrangements, and other developments that are happening in the MMS provider community right now. I’ll see if I can slip this in, and see what he has to say.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  362. denni

    Adam I have the clay…Do you think I should add MMS to the clay??? What do you mean hydrate the clay.. I AM currently having the same reactions to the MMS..the little like flee bites on my arms..

  363. Clare

    Hi Adam
    Wondering what has happened to the MMS newsletter? any idea? it was a great resourse.
    Cheers to all
    Clare

    1. Hi Clare,

      A few people, myself included, have expressed interest in creating one, but no focal point has emerged to do it. My interests include MMS, and other modalities as well. I may be able to incorporate MMS related information or articles in a newsletter that I *should* be putting out to publicize and announce each week’s Talk For Food show.

      I’m thinkin’ about it.

      Adam…

  364. Clare

    Adam,
    I look foward to your VISIT and have some ideas for forums etc. My email is davcla1@bigpond.net.au as I would like to converse with you off this site, so need your email address. The “pimples” are going !!! thank goodness.Clint is very generous with his time and info as are you.Many thanks.
    Love, light and health
    Clare

    1. Yes, Clint’s a Guardian Angel here too. I’ve sent you an email.

      A~

  365. Clint

    Welcome Cynthia !

  366. Clare

    Good Morning Clint
    The same thing here. Have gone off MMS from time to time and when I started again the “pimples” came back in the same place. Very strange. I wonder if has anything to do with nerve endings? have you asked Jim about it? or does Adam have any ideas.
    Cheers
    Clare

  367. cynthia

    Hello there…Windyfieldfarms….
    I found your websites that you recommeded very interesting and passed them on to my friend’s husband.
    Thank you once again

  368. cynthia

    Hello there…Phaelosopher
    I really found enlightening the idea of “structured water”. I am as soon as I can get the necessary device so I can structure my water.
    Thanks
    p.s. My daughter and I suffer from the System Lupus..where the diease attacks the body as it is forgien to itself..the doctors are surprised I was able to carry 3 pregs…to term and I am blessed with them as well. I try to keep the artifical sugar aspartame out of our diets and msg….it is more difficult to keep the aspartame out than the msg because it is in almost every product…this way the MMS can work more effectively for my family.
    THANK YOU for providing this blog for everyone to gain insight and have a voice for themselves.

    1. Hi Cynthia,

      I’m glad you’re finding the information, and the sharing of benefit. It’s great to have a sense that we’re zeroing in on just how to not only restore and sustain our health, but even stop and then reverse the aging process itself. The meaning of being in optimal health is changing, and I believe we have the power to redefine it.

      The structured water will also help remove or “clear” the vibrational residue or memory of what the water has been through. Water IS the communication medium by which cellular messaging happens. If it’s not structured, it can bring discordant frequencies into our being. If it is structured, it will take them out. In either event, an exchange will have happened.

      See my new article on hydration and structured water, just written and published this morning.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  369. cynthia

    Hello there…
    Clint I really enjoyed the website you sent me to.

  370. cynthia

    Hello there…
    I just wanted to thank everyone for their quick response to my questions…Clint ,phaelosopher and windyfieldfarms.

  371. Clint

    Clare:

    I hear you on the not scratching bit . . . it was a Huge test of my will to NOT scratch them. If I did, they only seem to spread.

    Here’s something I forgot to mention…

    When I got my pimples (or whatever they wer) they ALWAYS came back in the same place . . .

    ALL 3 TIMES ! ! !

    Weird.

    They came on the back of my neck, left underarm & left rib cage.

    Clint

  372. Clare

    Hi Clint,
    The itching is very spasmodic, comes and goes, but if I scratch too much they get sore, so i try not to scratch. Got one on my eye lid which is giving me a bad time. It itches the most. Will do the topical application tonight before i have a shower. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks heaps for your prompt response. Living on the other side of the world can be difficult when it comes to info and we have such draconian regulations when it comes to stuff like MMS. I have heard of a few Dr’s using it on their patients, but 5-6 hours drive from me. I live in the bush half way between Sydney and Brisbane. Paradise, but it has its drawbacks.
    Cheers
    Love, Light and Health to all

  373. Duane (real name)

    I’m slow in the mix of the posts here. My first ever! Been on MMS since Nov. ’07 and found it quickly (even at low, careful doses) goes to work on the garbage in our systems. It has worked miracles on my fibro myalgia. Maybe I’m a lyme guy too or ???? I can walk and run without severe pain now!

    The taste; I use citric acid to activate and for the juice I use “sam’s club clear american strawberry naturally flavored sparkling water beverage” (Whew!) to knock the taste down. Available you know where. Get rid of the carbonation first ‘tho.

    Nail fungus; yep it works! be patient as it takes a lot of time (weeks). I use the “hot stuff” before the juice and soak the offending nails in the solution (once a day if I’m taking it daily) for a few moments then add the juice, rinse my mouth (kills cavity pain REALLY well) and drink. Yuk/Yum

    Thank you to all the posters here and especially to Adam. You folks are truly an inspiration for anyone willing to look outside the box.
    Duane
    p.s. If someone posts a negative remark in my name, it isn’t me. I haven’t seen a Dr. since the summer of ’07

  374. Clint

    Clare:

    Good question…might be…. we all eat Chemical Feasts in the last 40 years, and it might be an accumulation of that, who knows.

    What I DO know is… when you put the MMS directly on the pimples… there is immediate relief & die off.

    I went to Santa Ana California emergency to get the docs to have a look at mine… and they were stumped, and didn’t have a clue what they were. I thought it might have been Scabies (microscopic lice) but the itching factor wasn’t as prgasmic when you scratched them.

    Are yours like that ?

    Clint

  375. Clare

    Hey Clint,
    Once again many thanks. Will do today and let you know how it went. I was wondering if it was parasites coming out? am not feeling any nausea or diarreah. Havent had that since I had the terrible vommiting.I guess something is happening if I have these awful spots.
    Cheers
    Clare

  376. Clint

    Clare:

    I had THE SAME thing a year ago, and it freaked me out. I thought it was something I caught from somewhere, but it wasn’t.

    Your discharging like crazy, and might want to stop all togther for a few days then resume back at 10 drops… making your way to 15.

    When my red bumps appeared, I put MMS directly on all the bumps, and they went away within half a day (I used 10 drops MMS, & 50 drops Citric Acid… waited 3 min., then immediately dipped my fingers into the MMS, and dabbed the pimples. Waited 30 min, then washed it all off … worked like a charm)

    Hope this helps,

    Clint

  377. Clare

    Hi Adam,
    Thank you for the web/shop address, I will be visiting when the Aussie $$ goes up a bit!!! Am taking 15 dorps in Pomegranate juice before bed , feeling good and sleeping very well. but…..
    very itchy nasty red lumps like mozzie bites are coming up here and there. On my feet, my thighs, shoulders and arms. They are spread out and look a bit like chicken pox, but are’nt. On my scalp too. Any suggestions??? Would love to have you visit Australia, you have place here anytime, in the Rainforest and right near the golden sands of our beautiful beaches.
    Love, light and health to all
    Clare

    1. Clare,

      I’d LOVE to come down for a visit. You are now on notice that it’s on my list of MUST places to visit, with YOU as the Ambassador!

      Do you have any calcium bentonite clay? If you prepared a poultice, simply hydrating the clay and rubbing it on the area, it would bring great relief, not only with the itching, but by drawing the poison into itself. The MMS/chlorine dioxide is driving the micro-organisms out of their protective areas. They are fleeing. The skin is their last frontier. They will go away even on contact with the oxygen in the atmosphere. However, it will happen faster with clay. You could also take a bath and add activated MMS to the water, which should also give your entire skin surface a protective boost.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  378. Clint

    Thanks Adam for the response re juices/water.

    Clint

  379. Pieter

    I stumbled across this. I am reading everything I can about this product and trying to get as much info possible. I’n the event I got some negative info too “Fact or fiction”
    Now I’m confused, who do you believe? Is their any other info or proof I can read? By the way, where do you get “structured water” can one produce it yourself?

    Enjoy

    1. I had a sense that this subject might be new to you. There are many places where you can get information about what MMS is and does, but ultimately, the answer will come from your own intelligent examination. You’ll notice that the site that you went to is “dead.” There’s no energy or vitality there. This one and others have vitality. No one will try to “sell” you on MMS, least of all me. However, you can get some informed information from people who have, or are using it.

      As far as structured water is concerned, you can indeed structure water yourself, through the power of your own intent. Before drinking water rub your hands together until you feel a gentle pulsating “heat,” then place them on either side of the glass, thinking positive thoughts/feelings for what the water is to do. The water is ALIVE, and will respond to the directive that you have given it.

      You can also purchase a device that structures water. They come in a number of forms and prices. A line of them are available on the web site where I market my MMS documentary.
      http://shop.understanding-mms.com/structuredwater.aspx

      There is also an hour-long interview that you can listen to that I had with the developer of this device.

      http://www.webtalkradio.net/index.php/show-podcasts/36-talk-for-food-with-adam-abraham/2771-week0907

      I am preparing some short video excerpts of this interview which will begin appearing on this blog soon.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  380. Pieter,

    That is very old information, and not a question here. Do you have a question?

    Regards,

    Adam

  381. Clint

    Adam / Julie :

    I slept on what you said Adam… and I have a question… HOW can antioxidants live in juices like Grape, Pineapple & Apple juice AFTER they have been juiced from the whole fruit, and sat on a shelf for 2 – 6 weeks in a glass bottle ?

    They have to remain there for a loooong time before they make it to our stomachs…. I really fail to see how antioxidants can remain potent enough to destabilize the MMS.

    I mean, I can see IF one were to juice the fruits in a juicer, FRESH… THEN the antioxidants would be alive, but… much like carrot juice… you have to drink it right away for it to be effective.

    So, a fruit juice that sits on a shelf for 2 – 6 weeks (to my way of thinking) has to almost be inert, and unable to disarm the effects of MMS.

    What say you Adam ? 🙂

    Clint

    1. Clint,

      I had to sleep on it too. My take on this isn’t due to such factors as the mitigating effects of antioxidants in juices, or glass containers. I believe it simply has to do with what water, and particularly structured water — which performs a very vital and specific task in our health — does naturally, WITHOUT requiring that we pay an energetic “penalty” for its use. Distilled, reverse osmosis, and other forms of treated water, exact an energetic penalty for the body to use them effectively. To a lesser extent, so do juices. Being a far higher viscosity, surface tension, and lower water content than structured water, juices cannot be nearly as effective carriers of the chlorine dioxide molecule. So it makes sense that you’d need to take higher levels of MMS when drinking juices or even conventional water sources.

      There is NO substitute for structured water. It appears that Julie is drinking what Viktor Schauberger called “mature,” or structured water.

      I have unknowingly been drinking structured water. I am now beginning to appreciate what it is, and why it is important. Not only structured water, but hydration itself… having an adequate amount of water in the body at all times, not only for the water that enters into the cell, but that which surrounds the cells too. “Your Body’s Many Cries for Water” by F. Batmanhelidj is a must read for that.

      So taking MMS in structured water will do more things while requiring less energy to “process” than any other liquid. That will allow more resources to be applied to the task at hand, pathogen reduction, as well as helping evacuate the oxidized pathogenic debris faster, via diarrhea. And while I now promote a device that will structure water even when we’re not thinking about it, or whether we know how it works, it is possible to structure water ourselves, before we drink it. It will have the same effect.

      My bottom line realization — there is NO substitute for water, particularly structured water. There are palatable substitutes, to be sure. It is very possible that the water that was available to Jim in Africa wasn’t structured either, and the dosage levels that evolved in order to achieve therapeutic effects might not have been so high had the water been structured.

      It is clearly possible to receive useful results using MMS with various juices, as Jim discovered, and that so many people are now confirming. However, for the most effective and efficient results, structured water is the best carrier. And very likely, if structured water alone were used, it would not be necessary to go to 15 drops in order to get a therapeutic effect.

      AND… because of a property of water called entrainment, THIS explains to me why some people can simply THINK of taking MMS, and then begin to go into a healing event. This is not a bad thing (although unpleasant), it is the nature of structured water. If you begin to feel nauseous at the thought of taking MMS, then in my opinion, it would not be necessary to take it, or that you’d take just a very small amount to start the healing event. However, when a sufficient population of the pathogens are released, the nauseous feeling should abate.

      That is also why the bath is a great way to take in MMS, particularly when the water is structured there too. The body is absorbing what it needs without the chemical information (chlorine and fluoride) that conventionally treated (immature) water would have. This absorption also equalizes the pressure that needs to exist between the cells and the water volume that they exist in. You can’t do that in juice. 🙂

      Adam…

  382. jim

    I have taken mms for two weeks now. Iam up to 10 drops 2 times a day.One thing I have noticed is my ph level has dropped to 6.0 from 7.0. Is this from the mms killing off the acidic cells and flushing them out? Anyone else have this reaction? thanks Jim

  383. CdnFarmgirl

    We are very fortunate to live out in the country, with our own well. Our water is relatively hard, which means lots of minerals and all the “good stuff”. I really find it hard to drink any municipal water, and even bottled water doesn’t taste as good as ours:) I was raised on well water, so I’m pretty spoiled!

  384. Clare

    Hi Adam
    Just a thought for KC and RDWhitaker re toenail fungus. My partner and I took ThreeLac proboitic from Global Health Trax. We imported it from the USA which made it expensive, but my partners vile!!! toenails went in a couple of months and my Candida disapeared too. Adam what is you web address? I am very interesed in the Barley and Flax lignan Gold.Still taking mms, my only problem seems to be burning feet.Love, light and good health to all.I am sending this blog address to as many as I can here is Australia, do you get many responses from Down Under?
    Clare

    1. Hi Clare,

      My web address for the Barley Gold and Lignan Gold products is… http://shop.understanding-mms.com/naturalhealthprods.aspx

      I just received a new batch of the MMS DVD, which now has four new bonus short videos — on the barley and flax product, structured water, intestinal cleanses (Oxy-Powder), and other cleans methods. They’re now shipping… approaching 10,000 units sold thus far.

      Bless you!

      Adam…

  385. Clint

    Cdn Farmgirl:

    I have actually… for the first week I started taking MMS with water only … then I HAD to go to fruit juice, the effect was killing me taste wise.

    Also, Jim sais that the fruit juices were/are ok to take with the MMS…so I was trusting his knowledge regarding this topic (taste) . . . as I understand that it’s the Ascorbic Acid that destroys the MMS’s effect, and not the antioxidant qualities…. you do bring up a good point though.

    Maybe Adam can shed more light on this subject…. Adam ?

    Clint

    1. Clint / Julie Greetings,

      You know as much as I do about what Jim says about juice. I think Julie makes a great point. Juice may indeed have a diminishing effect on MMS. And, with what I’ve been learning about structured water, I’d be willing to bet that among water types, you would get the most bang for fewer drops with it…. versus distilled, reverse osmosis, or even tap water, for example.

      It’s very likely that you can get greater reactivity on fewer drops using structured water, simply due to the easier cell permeability that structured water enjoys. The hydration that said water delivers, PLUS the oxidative powers of the chlorine dioxide molecule, should be measurably different.

      There are so many variables with everything else, including fruit juices, that anyone taking what might be considered “macrodoses” of MMS might consider it. I had my first healing event with MMS with only 4 drops. The water that I used was structured too… although this was before I appreciated what that meant.

      I too went to juice after awhile, and have taken more, and have never had that kind of reaction.

      Very astute observation, Julie… there may be something to it.

      A~

  386. CdnFarmgirl

    Clint, have you tried mixing the activated MMS with water? I know we are all very careful about checking the Vitamin C content of juices, but I recently read about considering the antioxidant properties of various juices. If the juice has very high antioxidant properties, it may be negating the effect of the activated MMS. My entire family only mixes with water, after activating with citric acid.

    I am just concerned that some people are taking “big”numbers of drops with juices that may be affecting the efficacy of the MMS. If you have only ever mixed with fruit juice, I suggest you try it with water a few times (yes, I know, the smell is nasty!), but cut back the number of drops of MMS, say to 10 or so. I’m curious if you will notice any difference.

    Julie

  387. Clint

    bob:

    Your showing your ignorance…

    I’ve done 22 drops 3x’s a day for 2 weeks… and I’m still able to type this post. You work your way up to it… and not start off at 15 drops. I drink it with fruit juice, and not water.

    Why are you so critical when you haven’t even tried it ?

    Clint

  388. bob

    Re: MMS and overdoses.

    Been reading through the comments about people taking too heavy a dose of MMS and been poisoned. Anyone who thinks that isn’t possible might try taking a bottle of Aspirin or two and sitting down and waiting for the ambulance! How stupid can you people be? Of course it’s toxic at overdose levels! Everything is!

    I won’t defend anyone who is silly enough to go straight to 45 drops. Are you nuts? But I’d also love to see someone drink 15 drops, activated with 75 drops of citric acid, mixed with 1/3 a cup of water on an empty stomach, three times in one day, for two weeks. THAT’S STRAIGHT FROM JIM HUMBLE’S BOOK! I don’t believe any one of you who were so very brutal in your comments has the balls to give it a go. What a bunch of lemmings! Mindless and uninformed!

  389. abraham

    Hi Adam and all,
    Just to share my experience with MMS. I have started sometime in May 2008 with 1 drop and continue till 20 drops 3 times a day when my body started to response (please refer to my forum entry on may 13 and early june 2008). Even since I have been on 6 drops daily and lead a normal life with exception of the numbness on my left ear due to major operation. for you info, i was diagnosed with parotid gland cancer (Mucoepidermoid carcinoma – 2nd stage) has since undergone parotidectomy with clear margin established). I started taking MMS right after the above operation.
    I think MMS has done a wonderful job on me and happy that i came across this website and get the benefit of MSS. However if i missed the MSS for few days i start feeling like swelling and inflamation on my left ear – (the side where the removal operation took place) but it went away after i resume the MMS.
    It has been a year now after my operation and need advise whether I should go on OCC (ie. overnight cancer cure) as once spoken by our host.
    My experience tell me that you can remove all your unfounded fear and -ve remarks on MMS. I guess once you caught by cancer, this is the next best thing to do. There is nothing to lose afterall.
    Thanks. Adam, appreciate your advise on OCC.

    1. Welcome Abraham,

      I think the OCC is a great protocol. The beauty of it is that it is intended to get what the author calls, a “therapeutic dose” of chlorine dioxide in the system within a relatively short period of time. The therapeutic dose is an amount that is sufficient enough to gain access to, and act on whatever anaerobic organisms are in the body (including viruses, parasites, bacteria, molds, yeast, and tumors), wherever they may happen to be. DMSO is an excellent carrier for the chlorine dioxide molecule.

      I also believe that taking baths to which activated MMS has been added to the water will also be effective. HOWEVER, the bath water should be STRUCTURED (as well as the water that you drink). I am reading a book on the work of Viktor Schauberger, who studied, among other things, the characteristics and properties of water. Since water has a life enhancing and life siphoning effect… it behooves us to understand how, because we won’t be able to see the difference, although we will be able to feel it.

      You should also not ignore the nutrition side of the ledger. There are a number of superfoods available now that are “full spectrum,” providing all the minerals and amino-acids that the body needs, as well as promoting full enzymatic activity (there are over 4,000 enzymes). I will soon have one such product combination — Barley Gold and Flax Lignan Gold — on my web site. The enzymes will help “eat away” at such things as scar tissue and other forms of buildup that may be required for the body to truly repair itself.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  390. mike van

    Don’t worry David. Keep taking it and soon enough you’ll feel it. I have other symptoms and am curently going through more tests becuase I still haven’t figured it out yet. Its only been 3 years!!!!!! But I start feeling the effects after 3 days of a dose morning and night. by the thid day, i feel awful. so bad that I am incapacitated and can barley function. MMS hits everyone differently, but I do believe its working. Try the morning and night dose and remember no VIT C. You will feel it no matter how healthy you think you are. hope it works..

    mike

    1. Great advice Mike. It’s also VERY IMPORTANT to hydrate and keep hydrating. I have been talking about structured water, and am learning more about water… juvenile versus mature. Structured water is mature water. It is what hydrates. Juvenile water (including distilled and reverse osmosis) is not structured, and will actually take resources from you (minerals, etc.) rather than give. Yet, they all look alike. Even high alkaline water that is made that way via electrolysis will only hold its hydration potential for a short period of time. True structured water will be stable, with chlorine and fluoride neutralized, with a 7.5 pH (just what the body calls for), and actually entrain other water around it (including the water within the body). That’s one reason I’m high on the water structuring device (http://shop.understanding-mms.com/structuredwater.aspx). Though we have the power to structure water ourselves, this is a great way to take the thought out of it.

      We’re still learning, and gathering more pieces to the health and healing puzzle, so that the body can repair itself.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  391. David

    Hi Adam. This article is absolutely fascinating. I’ve read Jim Humble’s book, but you’ve made it quite clear and understandable here. Well done!

    I started taking the MMS at a pretty high dose right away, just because I’m kind of an impatient type. I took 10 drops on my second dose, 15 on my third. I never felt any nausea or anything. I used to have Lyme pretty bad, but I’ve been over that for awhile and I’m not really sick anymore.

    My mother, however, IS sick. She has Lyme and is heavy metal toxic. She’s taken a VCS test several times, and is positive for neurotoxins every time. She took the MMS — also starting at a high dose, and activated with the 10% citric acid solution — and she hasn’t felt anything either. She’s taken several large doses now, and she never feels nauseous or anything. Is this normal for some very sick people to not have any herx reactions even when jumping in right away with a high dose?

  392. Jeanne

    Hi Adam,
    I will update you on what has happened recently. I wrote you about my symptoms on Jan. 14.

    Three weeks ago, my home tested for four toxic molds in the air. Two of them may be fatal, cause cancers, and many other horrible things. I’m not sure how much this has to do with my horrible symptoms that have taken the last year from me; my medical doc’s just say they don’t know, and send me home.

    I have been moved out of the home for 2 1/2 weeks. Last week I got some of the most extreme head pain, coughing, & nasal drainage (I have not had my nose run or even cough in over a year), this was on top of all my symptoms, it was awful. Wed. the intensity lessened. I am hoping it was some kind of detox. and that the clay can start getting some results now I’m out of the mold.

    My syptoms are still the same, but I am hoping that moving will help get some progress. I am taking clay recommended by Jim, and some herbs. Also thinking of making some baking soda & maple syrup, Dr. Sircus’ treatment for fungus.

    I appreciate any thoughts you have, I am unsure of what is best to do. I haven’t heard from Jim for awhile, unsure if my e-mail made it to him. As I told you Dennis Richards did not think that fungus that was to this point would be effected by silver. He mentioned that Dr. Humiston had a kit for candida, but I have not been in touch with anyone yet.

    I know you are very busy, and appreciate your time, and help. I did not know if you had time to get the other oppinion yet. Like I said symptoms are about the same as mentioned on the 14th of Jan. I would love to talk to you or someone, and get a plan to get back healthy, and healed.

    Thanks so much, Jeanne.

    1. Jeanne,

      Thank you for writing again. I forwarded your first letter to Jim, but did not learn until a couple weeks later that he was traveling himself, and only returned to his home last week (while I was out of the country). I have sent it to him again.

      Obviously, the fungus has had an effect, so moving out of the house was helpful. While we see what Jim has to say, I’d suggest, if it is feasible, that you do a number of MMS baths where you a number of drops of MMS (for example 25 drops), activate it, then add to the water. This should provide a gentler and more uniform introduction of chlorine dioxide into the system, and get it into the bloodstream faster than the gastrointestinal route.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  393. denni

    Adam: What is structured water??

    1. Hi Denni (the REAL Denni :-)),

      Structured water has several characteristics:

      Naturally alkaline
      It’s surface tension is small enough — <43 dyne — to allow direct entry into the cell without additional work by the body.
      Its memory has been cleared — essentially, it has been “rebooted”
      It will form a crystaline shape if frozen.
      Free of chlorine, fluoride, and other harmful chemical signatures.

      All bottled water is not structured. Any water that is not structured will also not have clear memory, a process that is normally done by Mother Earth in what Viktor Schauberger called, a Full Hydrological Cycle.

      Water is a living thing, and having enough is more fundamental to human health than just about anything, with the exception of oxygen. MMS is effective due to the pollutants that it can neutralize in the water that makes up the human body. Structured water is the only kind that can be taken in, deliver the oxygen and hydrogen needed to catalyze energy production and other health functions, and remove waste from the cell, without requiring the body to take energy and resources in order to use it.

      You can watch a short video on structured water here

      You can listen to an interview I did with the developer here

      You can purchase a unit here

  394. Cynthia

    I read that MS can be cured ( i know ) but you understand what I mean. Can anyone give some resource or website that I can give my friend? Also about Fibermyalgia…..there is a boy who is sick and I would like to give some hope….can anyone help…I read most of the comments from 2007 to present if someone has personal expericence and would like to e-mail me please do ponyupsouth@yahoo.com. My son had a welding accident and was seeing black spots that were clouding his eyes and he was very tired …laid around the house for a week…took the mms and the black spots were gone….the floaters we have in our eyes…are mostly gone….We suffer from Lupus and we are feeling better……Thanks to everyone….Please help me ….help my friends.

    1. Cynthia,

      There are many places to go and things to do, but there is some basic information that you should understand about the body’s physiology that would help you. There are many excellent books too, but two that I’d recommend right now are, “How We Heal Understanding the Body-Mind-Spirit Connection,” by Douglas W. Morrison, and “Your Body’s Many Cries for Water” by F. Batmanghelidj, MD. MMS is one way to do something that is fundamental to restoring health, that is, to reduce the pathogen load that you are carrying. Fundamental to all of this is adequate water intake, most importantly, structured water.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  395. rdwhitaker

    Juices: My wife and I just started MMS a week ago. I have some home-made cherry juice that we mix it with – no bad chlorine flavor at all! We tried pure apple juice, and the MMS reacted to it and the whole thing tasted pretty bad. I have also mixed it in with store-bought pure cherry juice – also great taste!

    My wife has colon cancer. She has been starting on MMS while waiting for her surgery to heal. She started off extremely low, only 1 drop, and increased that rapidly up to 10 drops 2 times a day. No nausea or bad effects from it. However, the other morning, I jumped her dosage up to 18 drops without telling her. That hit her hard. So we are backing off for a few days and will resume a lower dosage again.

    Our goal is that MMS will reduce or eliminate any residual traces of malignant cells before she sees her oncologist.

    Ryan
    Vancouver, WA

  396. rdwhitaker

    Nail fungus: I have had toenail fungus for years and have tried all kinds of over the counter stuff that did nothing. I am now doing a dual experiment. I soak the pad of a bandaid with one drop of activated MMS and tape it over my affected toenail before going to bed. Alternately, I am soaking my feet in a solution of hot water and baking soda. I’m in my second day of this – still watching for results.

    1. Ryan,

      Let us know how it works for you. I’ve got a couple toes to restore to normalcy too. Haven’t been inclined to do Clint’s take the toenail off approach, although that would work. Calcium bentonite clay masks would also help. I believe what I’m doing, which is increasing my structured water intake — drinking and showering in chlorine and fluoride liberated water, plus mineral replenishment (a special barley and flax lignan formulation), along with occasional pathogen-reducing sessions with MMS (took an MMS bath last week), is working nicely.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  397. Clint

    LOL ! ! !

    …. “Recent Researchers” ?!?!?

    If your going to impersonate Adam…at LEAST try and get his Pic icon (off to the right) on your post.

    idiot !

    LOL

  398. phaelosopher

    Dear fellow friends of MMS family,

    I am sorry to bring bad news…

    Recent researchers, have came up with very disappointing results.

    They have done tests with MMS, which proved, that chronic usage, is not able to cure fatal conditions, and possibly, could cause even cancer or liver/kidneys damage…

    At this point, I am not sure what should be my position, but would recommend everyone, to at least cease usage, until Jim gets a position on this matter.

    Blessings,
    Adam…

    1. I was traveling east, several hours outside of Vacouver on a 12-hour drive to Calgary when this came up. At first it pissed me off. Now it’s amusing. I could delete this, but will let it stay. This confirms what Liz and Denni were saying about being impersonated, and the tactics that some feel are “fair game” to discourage people from using MMS.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  399. Liz Brown

    I just visited my dentist, I had to do an extraction, as he told me, an “unknown acid” has irreversibly damaged my teeth, and am now under severe treatment to recover remaining teeth…

    I don’t believe this has to do with MMS, but wanted your opinion on that matter!

    Also, about brown tongue, I did a lab analysis, and they told me it might be cancer in early stages, but eventually, I hope with MMS it will pass…

  400. Liz Brown

    I do have one (small) puzzle, (a lot smaller than supposedly having been hosptialized!).

    My teeth became yellowed after I started MMS. I assumed this was a temporary thing, and I still assume so, and besides my gums are so much happier that, hey, yellow teeth are less of a health problem than red gums, if that’s the tradeoff.

    But, vanity being appealing, how long for others of you before you saw a nice shiny whiteness instead of whatever duller teeth you had before MMS?

    Most of the back half of my tongue is yellow or brown, too, like the way your tongue looks purple after eating purple fruit. Maybe some stubborn fungus problem? ideas? I’m up to ten drops once a day, going real slowly to avoid problems so I don’t risk losing work days.

  401. Liz Brown

    “By: Liz Brown on February 21, 2009 Holy sh*t!
    I just came out of the hospital too!
    I also got MMS poisoned, after lot months of chronic usage, just at maintainance dose!”

    Obviously this board has been hacked. The untruth of this supposedly coming from me is obvious:

    1) my first post shortly after my first use of MMS was less than a month ago, not “lot months of chronic usage.”

    And FWIW, 2) I don’t use words like “shit”

    Besides, 3) I have NEVER been hospitalized (not since my birth anyway!)

    Someone is trying to discredit MMS by posting alarms under names of those who have legitimately reported normal uses (and normal results) of MMS.

    Don’t believe these fake posts.

  402. zahealer

    Dear Phaelosopher and everyone,

    I have been able to treat both malaria and typhoid successfully with mms. A friend of mine who has goitre (iodine deficiency) has asked if mms would work for her but I don’t know. Can you or anyone with such experience help us out please. Regards.

    Zahealer

  403. mike van

    liz brown, or whoever you are. just like denni, if it is true that you were poisioned, then let’s see the results. either scan them into your computer and then cut and paste them on this site or just copy them down. i want to see just how you got poisoned. you write that you just got out of the hospital, but that’s all. TOO VAGUE. I think you are either an imposter or denni, which would make you the same thing. in fact, on January 30th, (that is when you FIRST wrote on this site), you wrote, ” I started using MMS a few days ago”. and now you write that after months of usage you got poisoned. so either you are lying, or the laws of time do not apply to your life. so nice try, but real users, can see passed the imposters. I said it denni (or whoever wrote for denni) and i will say it to you, if you don’t have any proof to back up your statements, then don’t post anything. you do know that it is possible to find out exactly who you are by tracing your ip address, don’t you? please don’t make us resort to outting you. just stay off the site.

    and if this is really Liz Brown, then lets see the proof!

  404. CdnFarmgirl

    Time to clear a few things up here…

    I haven’t been on this site for a few weeks, and was shocked to find that it is being “infiltrated” by imposters. For those of you who are looking for input and advice, stay – I’m sure these others will move on when they can no longer get a rise out of anyone.

    For the record, I wanted to let you all know that I don’t find that long term use has harmed my health at all. I have been using MMS since September 2007. I was in good health (eat well, try 🙂 to exercise enough, and did two gentle herbal cleanses a year). I did go up to 15 drops 2x a day, stayed there for two weeks, and now, I take 6 to 10 drops once a week or so, especially if I feel something “coming on”. I didn’t notice any drastic improvements, other than no longer being allergic to mosquito bites and being able to bounce through bad flus and such (ie. I’ll feel it a bit for a day, but not for 2 weeks like those around me).

    My father- and mother-in-law, and my husband have been taking it as well, and they have had much more pronounced improvements. My mother in law had severe food allergies, which have all disappeared now, and she sleeps much better. My husband has noticed slight arthritic pain in his hands and shoulders has disappeared (he’s a 48 year old farmer), he NEVER gets cold sores anymore (very common in the winter previously), he sleeps better, and his (farmer’s) lung congestion has disappeared.

    Dad has shown the greatest improvements. Previously, he had been diagnosed with Sjogren’s disease. After 2 weeks, he noticed changes happening (increased energy, less dry mouth, etc). After a few months, 85% of his symptoms were gone. He is a new man again! He also has candida, which has improved, but he has been taking MMS since August 2007, and has never felt better. He did go up to the 15 drop dose, and did have to battle nausea on the way there – he would stop taking it for a week at a time sometimes – but he now takes 8 drops or so every day, until he feels he has done all he can for the candida.

    MMS “works” differently for everyone – you need to listen to your body and proceed at a rate that is best FOR YOU.

    Good luck to everyone who is taking it to increase their wellbeing.

    1. Julie,

      I’ve just had a chance to get to the computer. Great to hear from you. I’m in Vancouver at this moment for several meetings and interviews. Will leave Monday for Calgary, and back to the states on Wednesday. I’d love to interview you, preferably in person, but we can do it on the phone too. Your experience would be great for an Understanding MMS II documentary.

      Best wishes, and great advice.

      Adam…

  405. Liz Brown

    Holy sh*t!
    I just came out of the hospital too!
    I also got MMS poisoned, after lot months of chronic usage, just at maintainance dose!

    I can’t say the MMS didn’t help me, in fact, it improved my mouth health, and improved several other conditions I had, but for sure, even after lot of time of using it, nothing was totally cured!

    And after lot usage and my poisoning issue, doctors in hospital said, I am lucky it happened early enough, as this stuff, would never heal anything, and eventually by the time, would irrevocably damage my kidneys and liver!

    Be careful people, stay away of MMS!

  406. Clint

    denni: we all know and can see what you wrote.
    If you don’t like MMS, don’t take it, we know all it helps us! You have better find a cave, get closed in it, and die there silently!

  407. Clint

    If you have nail fungus, you may try something a little bit hard, but 100% working…

    As you already know, nails do grow again, even if get completely removed…

    So, to cleanse fungus, take some “Hydrogen Peroxide, Food-Grade 35%”, and remove the infected nails, and pour 10 drops of hydrogen peroxide 35% on the wound, where the nail used to be.

    It will burn a little, like alcohol based lotions do when poured on a wound, but it will completely cleanse the fungus forever, and when new nail grows, the fungus will never re-appear!

  408. kc

    Question- have you heard of any success about MMS treating nail fungus? Or anything successfully treating nail fungus? I’m searching. thanks.

  409. denni

    Clint: Please go back and read my post again…I will state this again, I NEVER WROTE I HAVE MMS POISON, IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE USING MY NAME…OK

  410. Clint

    denni:

    You wrote:
    “In my opinion, MMS is poison, you just don’t see the problem in low doses, eventually, with chronic usage, you will be affected and damaged by using it.”

    In the above you say, that MMS IS Poison… so, yes….. hence the confusion… and offense taken.

    If you say that by using the MMS that “you will be damaged by using it”…. then great offense is taken again. Cause, there is MUCH more proof out there that sais otherwise.

    Clint

  411. denni

    I have also been using the ph booster drops and today my ph level was 7.5, so I no longer have the sore throat but I am waking up full of sweat. I really think this will be the answer to my dilemma. The only reason I did that dose at first is because I wanted to see if I could make myself get the nausea and diarrhea, because in my mind that would have confirmed that I got the right product. Sorry for any confusion that I may have caused..

  412. denni

    I was using Resolve and for 3 weeks I used step 3, which is supposed to be MMS, so once I got MMS in the mail it was very easy for me to jump in at 15 drops..I believe the dose I told you guys about caused my lymph nodes to swell.

  413. denni

    Before I tell my story I would like to say I have not posted since I wrote that I have a sore throat now.. I did not write anything about being poisoned…WOW!!! I thought this was a great place to come for help, but I see I have been impersonated..

  414. Joe Brazzeal

    Moon Girl and Clint,

    I drank the MMS with water (yuk) for the first two weeks before I started using apple juice. Go to Wal-Mart and look at the Tree Top apple juice IN THE GALLON SIZE on the bottom of the shelf. It’s made with just concentrated apple juice and water. The 1/2 gallon size has added vit. C. And since apple juice has a tendency to sour after a week or two, I froze the other half since I only use 5 oz. per day with the MMS.

    I live 55 mi. SW of Houston, TX in Brazoria.

    Sincerely,
    Joe

  415. SB

    Hello,

    I have a quick question…

    Where MMS acts as an antibiotic in a lot of respects, has there been any information as to the effectiveness or I should say interference with other medication that may be susceptible to antibiotics? ( ie: penicillin and birth control)

    Also, update on my MMS ingestion from yesterday…

    That familiar throat issue was certainly the flu. I am able to say that for certain after waking up this morning.

    Yesterday was my first dose (of which was 4 drops). This morning I did 6 drops (with pomegranate juice, no problems or nausea whatsoever). I’ll do another 6 drops this evening and 8 tomorrow morning to see if I can get ride of this.

    -SB

  416. moongirl

    I forgot to ask..

    I will be doing the paraway parasite colon cleanse when i get back as well. What is molecula silver? Is this a colon cleanse? Looking at the miraclemineral.org, all of the sites where this is sold do not really explain what it does.

    I also have dmso cream and read that it should not be rubbed on the body, I usually just kind of cake it on, I was originally rubbing it on and noticed dark sports in back of neck and bottom of spine and when dark spots were rubbed it peeled the skin. Reading from above, is this protocol for adding the mms ontop of it after it is absorbed, or while caked on.

    Is there a best recommended site on where to purchase mms?

  417. moongirl

    Awesome! Thanks for your advice!

  418. Clint

    Smart move MG !

    There should be juices in WholeFoods that have NO Ascorbic Acid added . . and the brand I use is ‘Lakewood’ brand . . . it’s the JUICE ONLY.

    I am in Houston here, and all the WholeFoods have them. You might try calling WholeFoods first before you set out on your trek and see if they even carry it.

    Good luck,

    Clint

  419. moongirl

    Ok, so I wont purchase that and will wait till after vacation.

    I found it from what I believe is his website called miraclemineral.org. I’ve also gone to Whole Foods looking for pure organic juice with no vitamin C and all have vitamin C, atleast 2-3%. Any recommendations as to where i can find juice with no vitamin C? I’m in Chicago, IL.

  420. Clint

    Moongirl

    I have never seen this site before, thanks for pointing it out.

    Yes, it sais 1 to 1 (1 drop MMS to 1 drop 50% Citric Acid) . . . but it seems that is for Water Purification ONLY…. and not a protocol for our inner water works.

    I am just curious if Jim Humble has certified that site, as they have picture of him up there.

    As for your decision to start MMS AFTER your vacation . . . it might be a wise idea. If you start discharging, getting nausea, etc… on your vacation, it might ruin a relaxing time.

    My 2c

    Clint

  421. Moongirl

    There is a website called miraclemineralsales.org. It has MMS 1:1. Is this this the same as the MMS with the activator solution? Has anyone used it? This will be my first order and I have several issues, diabetes 1, hsv1&2, carpal tunnel, eczema, acne, tendonitis….

    I will also be going on vacation, should i start this after my vacation in case i break out in hives or get nausia on the trip?
    Help!

  422. Clint

    Denni

    Get a fucking Clue !

    (pardon my French…ok ?!)

    If you are elderly.. then I apologize in advance… but if you haven’t read previous posts…much less the protocols that Jim Humble has painstakingly said (add nausea) over and over…. then you deserve to be sick from it.

    get a CLUE !

    (reaching for a Valium®)

    Clint

  423. SB

    I went ahead and started with 4 drops MMS and 20 drops citric acid.

    I took Adam’s recommendation for Pomegranate juice. It was very bearable.

    -SB

  424. SB

    Hello,

    I’ve done a great amount of research on MMS, read both of Jim Humble’s books and have read/listened to many interviews and testimonies.

    In the end, it was certainly enough to convince me that I wanted to get my hands on it, which recently have.

    I haven’t used it as of yet.

    Last night, I got the first hints of a possible throat problem/infection. This morning I can confirm the familiar sore throat and what will most likely be with me for the next while.

    I figure today is a good time to start the MMS protocol and will do just that with the minimum 2 drops soon, wait and then possibly 2 more at the end of the day.

    Obviously other than the toxic riddance I hope to achieve, I’m interested in seeing if I can stop this throat issue in it’s tracks.

    I’ll report back soon if I have any results worth sharing.

    Take care!

    -SB

  425. Denni,

    Anyone who STARTS with 30 drops of MMS, given the PROFOUND AND CONSISTENT ADVICE to begin with one, doesn’t really have an opinion that is worth taking seriously. After your 30 drops you wondered whether you had done something wrong when there was no reaction. Then you said you had a sore throat, and then you were back from 24 hours in the hospital. If that was so, you must have been posting updates from the hospital. You probably took more. You talk about chronic usage. You usage wasn’t chronic. It was foolish. If you want to be taken seriously, then you need to follow the protocol as it has been mapped out, and then see what happens.

    When you use anything to release toxicity, it feels like you’re about to die. It’s not unique to MMS usage. There are numerous books available that describe a phenomenon called a “healing crisis,” which I prefer to call a healing event. It feels like a crisis, for sure, but when it’s over, you’re feeling better. When you dislodge toxicity, whether they are heavy metal deposits, or parasites, or an overgrowth in anaerobic microorganisms, there will likely be discomfort while the body releases them. It doesn’t matter what the modality is.

    The individual needs to know this going in, which you don’t appear to be acknowledging. The people who monitor this thread aren’t trying to exploit or otherwise profit from your misery. But they also know that this protocol can help, and IS helping many to reverse some very unpleasant conditions in their body. They also see the naivety in your comments, given your preceding posts. The process of detoxing can be unpleasant, but the results of doing so is better life and health. That’s what makes it all worthwhile.

    If you really want to help yourself… if you have something that you’re trying to resolve, you might take Mike’s suggestions to heart. He asked you to post information that would be useful. You get the attention and response from him, myself, or a number of people who are willing to help. But if your final conclusion is that MMS is a “poision,” which we now KNOW is not the case, your posts do amount to a waste of time. Not just ours, but mostly yours, because you will carry around a mis-perception about something that could dramatically assist you one day.

    Best wishes all,

    Adam…

  426. mike van

    denni, what could possibly have caused your so-called mms poisioning. Hmmm.. I wonder… could it have been the ridiculous amount that you started with. or maybe it was the fact that you can’t read all the protocols that are on various websites that many if not all MMS users read before they use it. and you say poisioning. well lets see the blood tests and the doctor’s evaluations. then we’ll determine if you were really poisoned and if so, by what! What I think is that since you didn’t get a response from Adam, who is probably busy doing other more important things, you decided to resort to a couple of postings to get his attention. Grow up. If you have nothing of substance to share with other MMS users, then don’t waste our time. On the other hand, if you have something that could help us, then please post it so we can learn from it. Your other postings were very vague so again, please elaborate or spare us from your dramatic need for attention.

  427. denni

    got a sore throat now

  428. denni

    Dear Adam, It is me again..I just started MMS today and I have already taken 30 drops in the last 3hours with no adverse effects, Did I do something wrong as far as mixing citric acid? I used water that I boiled 2days ago with two drops of bleach in it to dilute the mms with..

  429. With reference to Adam’s frequent exhortations about needing to have your mind, emotions and body *all* committed to wellness, if you are to see maximum positive results:

    I utilize the Healing Kinesiology modality in my pastoral counseling, and my experiences validate Adam’s position. Ditto the findings of the Simontons an the correlation of specific emotional issues with the development of cancer. To wit –

    a) yes, many cancer patients commonly evince a sense of hopelessness, a sense of helplessness, and repressed rage. The Simontons’ work seems to indicate that, when the emotional issues are healed cancer is much more likely to go into remission.

    b) In addition I often find such people (and many others who are experiencing disappointing lives) are living out an internal script of ” I want to die” and/or “The universe is an unfriendly place” and/or “Other people and events control my life”.

    c) I encourage anyone who is working to heal from a debilitating illness to check out their internal scripting to assure every part of themselves is coherently working toward full health. The two most effective modalities I know of, in terms of checking out scripting, and changing to new positive scripting if needed, are Healing Kinesiology and Psychological Kinesiology.
    A capable practitioner should be able to help you get a scripting overview in less than an hour. In my experience you can begin replacing any destructive scripting within the hour, with maybe 2-4 additional sessions to complete the task.
    FYI if you have trouble finding a practitioner, contact me and I will see if I can help.

    BTW I was recommended to MMS by a man who, having survived cancer through alternate treatments himself, now shares with others what he sees as useful.

    1. Pastor Eastman,

      Thank you for your insights, and willingness to help others. Illness provides a great opportunity for us to stop and take stock of any perceptual baggage that we may be carrying around. While they don’t weigh anything, they can nonetheless weigh our spirits down. The scripting that you refer to comes out as a dialogue that we tell to ourselves, often in inaudible tones to anyone else. They’ll tell us whether we think we can do something that we’d like to do, or whether we should even bother trying. Many dreams are stopped before they start because they never got out of our mind. Then we saddle ourselves with disappointment which can fester in to loathing. When such mental practices have become habit, a toll is exacted on the body itself, as well as on our experiences. Thank you for helping illustrate these points.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  430. Karen

    How about has anyone gotten to see Adam’s dvd interviewing Jim Humble? I had the hardest time finding the url to order it, but finally did. It’s at http://shop.understanding-mms.com. Adam, why not have it more accessible on this blog? It won’t be avail till later this month, but I can’t wait to get my hands on it. I think the best information is on this blog from people like us sharing our experiences and what we are learning….

    Thanks Liz for the feedback on Part II – its useful information.

    Karen

  431. Liz Brown

    Now that I have skimmed book part two, let me reassure anyone who can’t afford it, although it is nice to have you don’t need it. All of the information is on the web free.

    The book part 2 consists of three main parts –

    1. how to use MMS (but go to Jim Humble’s web site http://mmsadvisor.com and you’ll get even more info specific to various diseases),

    2. detailed instructions how to make MMS in your kitchen (but most of us aren’t going to do that anyway and the one place I found selling sodium chlorite in one pound lots charges $75, if you can afford that you can afford the book),

    3. a (justified) diatribe against the FDA.

    Interesting reading, worth the money if you have an extra $13, but you aren’t missing out on how to cure your health problems just because you don’t have part 2.

  432. Liz Brown

    I am amazed at my mouth health after using MMS just as a mouthwash for a few days.

    I finally found a contact for the web page and they sent me the part two I had ordered from them that hadn’t downloaded properly.

    About nausea, I read on a different web page that if you get nausea from MMS, just eat an apple or take some activated charcoal capsules and the nausea will go away fast. The page said these substances absorb the toxins that backed up into your stomach and help them go out more slowly and gently the normal downward way. (But also decrease dosage below nausea next time.)

  433. To Liz Brown,

    I know from reading Jim’s book, part 2, that he wants this information in as many people’s hands as possible.

    If you’ll send your email address to me at

    osidreambiz@gmail.com

    I’ll send you part two, but only if you have read part 1. Put in the subject line, “Yes, I’ve Read Part !”

    Great health and freedom to all,
    Joe Riley

  434. Karen

    Hello to Everyone,
    After successfully going through my first MMS session of building up slowly to 15 drops over several months, I have rid myself of that pesky genital herpes (I would say 90% of it) and other such micro critters, I am now a full blown MMS disciple. My immune system got a great boost and I feel great.

    After a month of complete rest from MMS, I am now ingesting 15 drops (right off the bat) once per day for a week, now at 2X per day, and will increase to 3X per day for a week, and then go to maintenance. This time I’m aiming to go deeper into the tissues and annihilate the yeast and candida the most difficult to eradicate. I am off all other supplements for the time being except for MSM as Clint has suggested.

    I can tell when the critters are successfully being evicted, because they speak to me through my eating patterns. When they are being evicted, they scream out through my apetite for junk food for their own survival. I go along to some extent, because to resist is to create a war which only makes it worse.

    As part of my going to the next level of understnading how MMS works, I am going through the entire blog and categorizing each one according to subject. It came out to be 148 pages after I reformatted it. Now I can print and study it in detail like a book.

    There was a request for the Cilantro Recipe, so I found it for anyone who wants it…

    Cilantro Chelation Pesto
    4 cloves garlic
    1/3 cup Brazil nuts (selenium)
    1/3 cup sunflower seeds (cysteine)
    1/3 cup pumpkin seeds (zinc, magnesium)
    2 cups packed fresh cilantro (coriander,
    Chinese parsley) (vitamin A)
    2/3 cup flaxseed oil
    4 tablespoons lemon juice (vitamin C)
    2 tsp dulse powder (seaweed powder)
    Sea salt to taste
    Process the cilantro and flaxseed oil in a blender until the coriander is chopped. Add the garlic, nuts and seeds, dulse and lemon juice and mix until the mixture is finely blended into a paste. Add a pinch to sea salt to taste and blend again. Store in dark glass jars if possible. It freezes well, so purchase cilantro in season and fill enough jars to last through the year.
    Cilantro has been proven to chelate toxic metals from our bodies in a relatively short period of time. Combined with the benefits of the other ingredients, this recipe is a powerful tissue cleanser.
    Two teaspoons of this pesto daily for three weeks is purportedly enough to increase the urinary excretion of mercury, lead and aluminum, thus effectively removing these
    toxic metals from our bodies. We can consider doing this cleanse for three weeks at least once a year. The pesto is delicious on toast, baked potatoes, and pasta.

    Luv to all, Karen Kimura
    kmkimura@aol.com

  435. Julia S.

    Hi, I am Julia Sanduval,

    I am student of medicine, and am amazed of this new invention called MMS!

    I am sort of funds, but would really like to read part 2, so I would really appreciate if anyone can send me a copy of e-book part 2, version 3.

    juliasanduval@gmail.com

    Thanx!

  436. Liz Brown

    Yellow teeth. Definitely, since starting MMS as mouthwash a few days ago. Baking soda helps. The very back teeth are white on the top half, so it seems to be a film on the teeth maybe related to saliva. I’ll worry about it after the health issues clear up. (Dentists can do whitening if needed.)

  437. Liz Brown

    In case anyone’s wondering, this is the site where I purchased the book part 2 that failed to download except for the first 28 pages, and that has no way to contact them to report the problem.
    http://www.miraclemineral.org

    They have a page for re-downloading if it didn’t work but that page rejects my Paypal confirmation number as if invalid.

    One would think links with titles like “questions” would include contact info, but no, not a clue about how to contact them anywhere on the web page that I have found. I’m out $12.95. 🙁

  438. Liz Brown

    I started MMS a few days ago, first putting one drop in a small wine glass, activated it, filled the wine glass with water, used half of it as a mouthwash and half I drank. Same thing second day, 2 times a day. Morning of third day a gum problem that had bothered me for a month or so and that was growing steadily slowly worse (feeling rough when I ran my tongue over that gum and then developing what felt sort of like a rash of scab-like pinpoints) was obviously much better, less rough and far fewer “scab” points. Doubled the dosage (note that means I’m drinking only half a drop at first, twice a day, then upped it to one drop at a time for mouthwash and one drop for drinking), that particular gum problem is now entirely gone on the fifth day.

    Sent for part two of the book but the download didn’t work, I got only the first 28 pages, the rest of the pages are blank. Looked all over the web site of the place I paid for the book but there is not only no email address, there is no contact info of any kind. Asked paypal to refund me for the failed download, they said no, their guaranty is good for only physical things. So I’m out the cost of the part 2. Grrr. Lesson learned — NEVER buy anything from a web site unless you have first checked that there is a way to contact them in case of problems. Anyone want to send me the part 2 I already paid for but didn’t get? 🙁

    Maybe I’ll have to buy the hardcover, I won’t be willing to trust the download again from any site. (Part one from that site downloaded just fine.)

    Question – people keep talking about raising dosage until you have negative reaction, but doesn’t a negative reaction mean it’s working too well? Too fast for your body to keep up with? Seems to me never getting that high would do the same clean-out of pathogens, more slowly and without stressing the body which sounds like more healthily, unless you have a medical problem that is worse than the MMS overdose reaction.

    I’m finally motivated to get rid of a gum pre-cancer (which is why the other gum problem was scary – had it turned into cancer?) using mostly Budwig and some other gentle approaches. (I got rid of it a few years ago, got careless about diet and it came back, but it’s a slow growing kind of problem.) I’m intending to add MMS to my personal mix of approaches, but I’d rather do it gently, I’m not into making the body suffer needlessly.

    Has anyone here used MMS gently over longer term with good effect, instead of using it at the higher nausia & D causing dosage?

  439. Helen Wilson

    I have no idea whom it is I am writing this to, but I need to know whether MMS would be suitable for myself. I was born with Milroy’s Disease and have now been diagnosed with myeloid displaysia.So far the Neupogen injections have given me some not to good side effects, they have boosted my blood cells but my legs are suffering. I may not be able to find this web-site again as I am am not to computer literate. If there is a medical professional out there that can answer me I would really appreciate an email as I am am getting scared and somewhat desperate. My daughter died 30/12/08 from myeloid leukaemia and conventional medicine, to whit, stem cell and bone marrow transplants. Please help me. Thank you, Helen Wilson.

  440. Kevin

    Hi Adam and everyone…

    I am a newbie to MMS and have been reading up on its healing properties. I think it sounds very promising and I am excited to telll everyone. I have a question. I have two friends with HIV. One who is not using any HIV medications and is healthy and the other who has had HIV for quite a while now. He is using medications, but is healthy with little to no HIV antibodies being detected.

    Will taking this actually keep both of them from having to take medications for HIV in the future?? Does MMS interact negatively with HIV medications that someone is using currently??- I myself have no illnesses but I feel as though I want to take MMS with them so that they have someone to go through the process with. Is there any risk to me using MMS without in pre-existing conditions…

    I know that is more than 1 question….but Any comments or suggestions are very appreciated

    thank you

    Kevin

  441. John I.

    Hi Adam,

    I’m hoping to travel to India soon and I’d rather use MMS than the malaria vaccination that was prescibed to me. Can you recommend an MMS protocol for a trip lasting 6 months to a year?

    Any other suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

    John

  442. perry

    hi adam
    just a couple of things you might be interested in,i have had hepc for about 4 years now,myliver enzymes have always been good and i have checked every 6 months,after being on the mms for 6 weeks i just got a blood test back and my enzymes are thourgh the roof,i belive the mms is killing the hepc,could this be the reason for the increase in liver enzymes,please write back as i,m a little concerned if the mms is making the situation worst,but i don,t belive so,i have already posted on jan 6 but you did not respond,could you please

    thankyou adam

  443. terry

    hi adam
    just a couple of things you might be interested in,i have had hepc for about 4 years now,myliver enzymes have always been good and i have checked every 6 months,after being on the mms for 6 weeks i just got a blood test back and my enzymes are thourgh the roof,i belive the mms is killing the hepc,could this be the reason for the increase in liver enzymes,please write back as i,m a little concerned if the mms is making the situation worst,but i don,t belive so

    thankyou adam

  444. Jeanne

    Hi, Adam.

    Just checking to see if you have had any progress yet. I still haven’t heard back from Jim, hope my email made it to him. I have checked on some of Dr. Sircus’ baking soda, and maple syrup treatment for fungus. Just wanting to find the best way to start. I’m still on clay, and 5 drops MMS; also have done colon cleanse. From what I understand from my medical doc. testing for systemic fungus can be very difficult. It’s not something he’s familiar with, but considering my symtoms he thought fungus is a possibility.

    Like I stated on the 14th, I would love to get a conformation on what is causing all of this, or find out what my body needs to get back to living. I am thankful for all your, and the many other peoples time, and help at figuring this out. I know that I will heal when I find what my body needs.

    Thank you again, Jeanne.

  445. Chuck

    I wanted to wait a while longer before I made a comment with my use of MMS but here it goes. In Aug.08 I contracted a virus (HSV-1) I also developed some secondary infections and I also have a white tongue, white lines along the inside of my jaw line and a white substance coming out of my inner and outer corners of my eyes. I now have seen a few doctors my last visit on Dec-17. At that time I found out I also have a fungi/yeast infection. They put me on Nystatin and Fluconazole but it seem to make matters much worse. I also had stopped the use of certain herbs I was using because I didn’t wan’t them to react with the medicine. On Dec 22 I got MMS in the mail and I begun to use it immediately because I was going down hill fast. By Jan.01 I had worked myself up to 15 drops of MMS + protocol and the the burning in my legs stopped and my overall well being was better. But I believe that I worked myself to 15 drops to fast. I begin to have this weird feeling in my upper chest just below my neck so I stopped. On Jan 22 I started use again but with a lower dose and I’m also monitoring my PH level of my mouth and urine, I also realize that my diet and the state of my mind (outlook/thinking) also plays into my condition. On another website (EarthClinic) I’ve read about adding Iodine with MMS which I have done by taking a Kelp supplement. I also found a study of Chlorine Dioxide and Iodine. Thx, CC.

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=242149&blobtype=pdf

  446. Bridget

    People have mentioned dental fillings and taking MMS. Can I take MMS if I have mercury fillings?

  447. Chris N.

    Dear Adam,

    first of all, I want to thank you for your continuous support and replies.

    I wanted to ask you, and all members, a few things that are unclear and not able to be found easily anywhere online in one place…

    First of all, I ordered MMS from mmsmiraclecom, since 15th, and nothing received yet, 9 days passed… Is this site reliable, anyone tried them and received ?

    Secondly, I see lot of ideas, methods, protocols and products/substances/alternatives in this post and some other posts…

    But, I never seen anywhere online, at one place, a complete matrix, which would contain info about everything and collected that knowledge…

    What do you think, could you start such new Article, and have a form where all members contribute their protocols, products etc they have found ?

    Something in form of:

    Substance Name :: Chemical Type/Contents :: Explanation of what it does :: Recommended Price :: reliable links to online shops sending world-wide

    (each :: a separate column in the matrix, and maybe even expand more columns and features…)

    Just an idea… Let me know how you and others find it!

    (I personally, could for sure contribute and spend some time sending you material, and all members comments, could be organized by you on top of the Article…)

    Best Regards
    Chris

  448. Chuck (cc.utah)

    It sounds like some people would like to know why Chlorine Dioxide works and why it’s used to treat water. Maybe this will help you and its from the EPA.

    http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_4.pdf

  449. Clint

    Chris N. :

    I HAVE to ask…WHERE are you getting this “Chlorite Dioxide” & “Chlorite Dioxine” you speak of… are you reading the literature properly ?

    The MMS is made from 28% Sodium Chlorite, then when mixed with Citric Acid (10%) you get… CHLORINE DIOXIDE ! Ta DA !!!

    Why all the doubting Thomas attitude… if you tried it and it didn’t work, I say move on.

    But, it does sound like your maybe one of the few that your condition will ONLY be healed when you mentally can let go (of whatever it is your obsessing about) . . . and experience true healing.

    Instead of just trying it, and doing the work,

    no ?

    Clint

  450. Chris N.

    Dear Adam,

    first of all, I don’t understand why on first paragraph you quote the word cured. Do you imply doubt by that on their result’s validity or longevity ?

    Additionally, I would not be unimpressed by the literally non-proofing cure history share of an individual, but, isn’t it crazy that not even this exists anywhere online ?

    Finally, about MMS chemical functionality, I have some (sorry, again logical) objections to do…

    As we all know, NaCl, is the well-known “table salt” we daily use. Salts, as we all know, are made from a chemical reaction, widely known as oxidation, which means drop of a loose electron from the acid to the alkaline molecule, and thus, formation of a salt (a theory lot years now rejected by the way, as electrons are proven they never leave a molecule, as they don’t even exist as material, they mostly seem to be, unproven yet, as an “electronic fog range”, so drops of electrons imply electronic discharges – That is why a lot of patented cure-machines with magnets and similar technologies also exist…)

    So, as we all have been taught by the book of Jim, what Chlorite Dioxide (and NOT Chlorine) does, is traveling* through our blood, body, cells, and simply, when it meets a “bad” molecule, it oxidize it (electronically discharge it and form a salt, easily disposable and harmless, I agree).

    *But hey, hold on!
    We are wrong from the beginning…
    Traveling ? How can it be traveling in our body ?
    As we all know, all mammals have stomach or something related for digestion, which has HIGHLY Acid fluids (really lots of…)
    So, simply, drinking ANY amount of MMS via stomach, is not able to work, as any amount gets instantly oxidized in stomach, correct ?

    So, here comes the point…

    What other, successful, safe, harmless and documented ways exist ?

    BTW: the dermal way, simply can’t work as well, because when it passes from external skin, it falls onto the first fat membrane under skin (which we all have, no matter how fat or slim you are – we are not talking here for gallons of ClO2), so as you know, fat cells are also extremely acidic, which means ALL MMS got wasted and never got inside the rest body (at least, you might be able do a free liposuction – but not probably, as fat cells don’t get destroyed by this oxidosis, they just lose some material which they regain later faster – that is why when they say they got cured, they realized it because they started losing weight very fast, same is posted for oxygen therapies everywhere)

    So, only reliable and working way I could think of, is Intravenously, but am not sure how safe it is for an individual to do that at home…

    Maybe, finally, it’s 100 times preferred to go to an alternative treatments clinic and treat you with Oxygen, Ozone, Hydrogen Peroxide, Chlorite Dioxine, and anything else they know works and have experience on!

    1. The use of the quote marks around the word “cured,” in no way diminishes nor casts doubt on what the people involved did. They are free of their malady. They know what they experienced, and what the results were. They were all helped by disinfecting the water in their body. Some had cancer. Some had hepatitis. Some had herpes, psoriasis, eczema, and AIDS. Did MMS “cure” them? The answer is that it doesn’t really matter. Pollution is a problem in ALL such conditions. Removing toxicity is appropriate in all. MMS removes toxicity.

      It’s not true that no testimonials exist online. Perhaps you’ve not yet found them, but they exist. Their existence is not really what’s important either, because the first people who began using chlorine dioxide for water purification 200 years ago, and then commercial water treatment 80 years ago, had to use their own intelligence and knowledge gained from observing the properties of the molecule. They had to use supposition as to how it should work. Their experience then confirmed the supposition. People are doing that every day after doing a sufficient amount of research to decide if it may something for them to try. You can use that same intelligence now. Your needing “proof” in order to suspend your judgment is simply your way to stay in your comfort zone, and away from real understanding.

      I know what I’ve experienced, and the experiences others have shared with me. There wouldn’t be so much interest in this stuff if it weren’t producing tangible results, even with intangible factors considered. Knowledge will not be handed to you “on demand.” It’s something you must be willing to allow your mind to fathom, and that takes the courage to maintain an open position. Perhaps the main point where we part is that you’re trying to figure out all of this in your head and ignoring not only the chemical properties of chlorine dioxide, but the results that people have shared. Whether a pharmaceutical firm funded clinical trial or double blind study exists is immaterial when enough information is built into an understanding. A person who is dehydrated need not wait for a clinical trial to know that water should help their situation. Person who have been chronically ill and see how pollutants affect their internal chemistry are making up their own minds, and reaping the rewards.

      Thanks again for your interest, and best wishes in your pursuit.

      Adam

      Adam…

  451. Chris N.

    First of all, I want to state that I believe in democracy, freedom of speech & freedom of thinking.

    This post, has no intention to harm anyone’s feelings, or take away peoples’ hope.

    Initially, when I found this blog with so many responses, and active people supporting MMS, I was happy, as I thought there must be somewhere a response of someone saying he was cured…

    I spend almost 1 week (the nights), reading ALL in this blog, but never found anyone state he was cured.

    Now, about medical terminology, meaning of words and logical results, please, all of us, let’s try to be just that. Logical.

    Mixing intangible with tangible, alternative perception of what death is and if it exists at all, is not what I am into. If you see it philosophically, yes, the greatest Greek philosopher who wrote about death, Epicurus, stated first world-wide that death does not exist, and nobody has to fear of that “condition”, because when we live, it simply does not exist, and when it comes, we simply as well, not exist, so practically, we NEVER meet death, so in that point of view, yes it does not exist.

    But, hey, don’t get me wrong…
    Is there anyone who started MMS to just purify his soul and pass the “deaths doorway” healed ?

    No, this is not realistic. And even if in the process of researching and experimenting with alternative medicine, people change their perception of things, this does not mean a cure.

    Changing my mental status, behavior, perception of things, “talking to myself”, “asking myself”, “flying with ghosts” or any other intangible statements, simply, have nothing to do with resolution of a problem, like an RNA-Virus who infects blood cells.

    Positive thinking, good energy, meditation, mind states, and even levels of brain (alpha, theta etc), of course do exist, and of course can help. (even Method Silva, a very old book, includes exact exercises and meditation ways to cure cancel and lot other things).

    But still, that is contradicting with MMS, which has a tangible nature (molecules), and not related at all with spiritual things.

    So, this is simple, in fact, it is plain logic:

    Q: Does MMS work for curing a disease or is just another way of a mutated and advanced money making system for someone ?

    A: I am fair. Will not ever say something untruth. I simply don’t know. I never ever seen any result, on internet, on friends, anywhere. I read about potential results, but never seen any post of someone state clearly he was cured. Only seen, is relief of symptoms posts, and suddenly these posters/users (not only here, everywhere) after some period disappear… Did drinking MMS “drink” them on the end ? Don’t get me wrong, I know, 90% of people don’t have time, interest or care for others… But in thousands of users of MMS and other alternatives (like H2O2), where is this remaining 10% of cured conscientious, reliable users ? Why nobody, ever, did post he was cured ?

    I have not lost my faith in anything (it’s just a matter of perception as well, did someone ever had it ? if yes, why, what made him believe and have faith in something ? was the root of this “learned” faith pure ?), so don’t take it as that. Also, don’t accuse me, point me, or criticize me, for being reasonable.

    After all, I never proposed something different from what you already have faith in, research, think, re-think, alternatively think.

    I am sorry if my post was too big or chaotic for any reader, I hope in general, you get my point.

    1. Chris,

      I have talked to quite a few people who have “cured” a condition using MMS. The joy they report, and sometimes the disbelief, warms the heart. However, most of them are eager to get on with their life, especially after they realize how they’ve been unwittingly used by orthodox medicine for so long.

      Some wonderful souls give attention to this place to support and encourage others who are journeying back to health. Your not seeing someone’s testimony about their “cure” doesn’t mean they aren’t happening. Then again, given how you’re thinking, if there was one, I’d venture that you’d say there was only one, which would simply be another way of being unimpressed.

      MMS/chlorine dioxide doesn’t look for cancer, diabetes, heart disease, psoriasis, eczema, or any other condition. The oxidant simply reacts when it encounters anaerobic and acidic molecules, which tend to proliferate only when a person is “sick.” The more acidic the body, the “sicker” the individual. The name is meaningless. If you understood this, or were willing to accept it as true, you’d have your answer. Most of the people who are studying what chlorine dioxide does, and how to deploy it inside, have the answer they need, and are getting their own experience with it.

      Best wishes in your search.

      Adam…

  452. Chris N.

    Adam:

    Without any intention to thumbs-down or turn-down anyone’s physiologic status, I am much disappointed to hear that finally, MMS cannot cure any terminal disease, which is clearly aforesaid on your response.

    So, seriously, question to all viewers, researchers, people experimenting and users of MMS, have you ever found or hear anyone being cured by MMS from any terminal disease ?

    [about your “Terminal” argument, this is an applicable word of definition of something (virus) that will end something (someone’s life), so it is correct to be used for diseases like hepatitis, aids and cancer]

    Also, if anyone has ever hear of any 100% cure for AIDS & Hep C. please post links and details…

    Additionally, I would like to share a link I found in my research, and ask for previous experiences by anyone, ideas, or reviews/points of view if this might be a proven scam or real cure ?
    The link is www[.]helpcure[.]com and these guys state that for 1.400$ they sell a 100% cure for cancer, AIDS and hep. c in 90 days program…

    1. Hi Chris,

      I am suggesting that you turn the focus of your investigation in another direction, on the human being him or herself. There are physiological factors, psychological and mental factors, there are spiritual factors that all contribute to any given individual’s eventual outcome.

      Most people, like you, are looking elsewhere for a cure, in fact, anywhere except in the mirror, and in their own heart and mind. Some people believe what I’m saying makes no sense at all. And they are thinking exactly like the pharmaceutical companies and everyone who profits from the status quo want us to think.

      This is not to say that people have not been “cured” of major diseases using MMS. It means that MMS “worked” because the individual was committed to restoring his or her health, and left no stone unturned in order to do so. If you’re thinking that MMS is “the” answer, which your question suggests that you are, then you’re looking at this naively.

      Readers of this thread need to understand that they can heal, and that there are no “terminal diseases,” not even death itself. Any disease can be healed when you know from whence it originates, and what maintains it. The pathological factors are an effect of other causal factors which MMS has nothing to do with. Most diseases are caused by emotional turmoil, and mental stress, born of judgment, jealousy, envy, greed, fear, and lackadosis, and the distorted view of reality that they cause. MMS won’t do anything about that. It won’t stop or oxidize toxic thinking.

      A “hot head” who is not ready to become balanced in their view of life, who is not willing to forgive, or give up abusive behavior, may see only marginal improvement, no matter what they’re using. A person who is willing to laugh at himself, be grateful for the love that he is given, and is willing to give it back, will start healing well before his body shows any change. A person who steps through death’s doorway at peace with himself, is a healed individual.

      I know the dictionary definition of the word “terminal.” I’m suggesting to you that the word doesn’t apply to diseases except by our belief. There are no “terminal” diseases that cannot be recovered from if the individual is not yet ready to terminate, and is ready to change his way of looking at, and experiencing life.

      As for the helpcure.com site, all they’re doing is email list building. They will give you some information if give them your email address. I see no meaningful information being given there.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  453. mike van

    Clint and Clare,

    Thank you for your responses. The dizzy feeling comes and goes and basically I just waited until, what the doctors say, the virus ran its course. It seems as though, I will really never know what exactly caused these symptoms. Now I am fine, and what I am trying to do is prevent whatever it was from ever coming back. That is why I want to take the MMS. But like I said, right now I have stopped because of the mild nausea and upset stomach. I would like to take it IV, but i probably am going to try the transdermal use first. I am going to take the OXY Cleanse that Adam recommended and then I may try the MMS through the skin. I have probably read every website and every story that people have posted and I am really excited finish the MMS detox. I did run into a comment posted on the Curezone by a “Silver Fox” about experimentation with the transdermal use of MMS and how it should not be as concentrated as 28%. Did any one else read that? And I don’ t mean to sound ridiculous, but what is an Osetopath?

  454. Chris N.

    Hello Adam,

    will you please respond my questions too ?

    Thank you on advance!

    1. Done. You’re welcome, and thanks for asking them.

  455. Clare

    Hi Mike,
    Boy do you have good “guides” leading you to this great site. MMS has done great things for me and this site has led me to investigate and take control of my health, both spiritual and physical. With your “dizzy” problems have you considered seeing a Osteopath? many of my imbalances are now gone after finding a good Osteo, changing my diet and of course MMS. Good luck and keep persisting, you WILL succeed

  456. Clint

    Mike van:

    If your interested, I can share (how to) doing MMS by IV, and by-pass your digestive system all together, and hopefully tackle your problems head-on.

    It’s obvious that what’s bothering is affecting your digestive tract and is inhibiting the MMS from doing it’s job.

    Clint

  457. mike van

    Hi Adam, I have a question that I cannot seem to find an answer to. I read that the body doesn’t reject MMS, but it seems as that is so in my case. I have emailed Jim Himble because I believe that this is a question that has not been answered by him. I hope he will respond and if not, maybe you could ask him for me. Again, as I stated before, the MMS seems to go right through me, which would lead me to believe that my body is rejecting it as soon as it goes in. Also, I stopped taking it and was nauseus (spelling) for two days after. I thought i would go away within four hours or at least a day. So even though Jim states that there has never been a case that the body has rejected it, it seems as though it does in my case. Thanks for your time. It is greatly appreciated, trust me!!

  458. Chris N.

    Dear Adam,

    I have recently (before ~10 days) received an email about something called “one-minute cure” which leaded me to a web-site, and I buy a book which promotes Hydrogen Peroxide for similar results as MMS has.

    Later, in forums I read about MMS as well.

    After lot research on the net, and without knowing anything ever before about alternatives, FDA and all this big Pharma big fraud against us, and after watching lot of interesting things related to alternative thinking (due to my research and newly opened horizons), including and not limited to “Zeitgeist The Movie”, “The Pharmacratic Inquisition” and lot other interesting stuff, I have totally changed my way of thinking and totally lost my faith in the system. Everything has been broken down, like a paper-tower, and I really trust a phrase Jim Humble said in his book… “The leaders want to kill us” (or something similar rephrased)

    Anyway, I decided to write here, because I wanted to ask your opinion according to your knowledge and older experience in this stuff, for some things:

    1. Which substance is better in eliminating terminal diseases, like Cancer & AIDS, Hydrogen Peroxide or Miracle Mineral Solution ?

    2. Which of these is safer ?

    3. Does it cure 100% or the ailment may return if you later stop taking the substance ?

    4. Something unclear, I read somewhere about dental issues and some roots with non-circulating blood in them, which contain the viruses, and thus, make it return when you stop intake, how can this be fixed, in plain English ? (any links ?)

    5. Does the MMS have problems when taken with other drugs, such as Thyroid Hormone and Anti-Allergic treatment ? (Does someone with Hypo-Thyroid stop medication while on MMS, and will MMS cure Hypo-Theroid malfunction forever ?)

    I have already ordered both substances, Miracle Mineral Solution & Hydrogen Peroxide, and waiting their delivery in this week, so please reply my questions when you find time, I really would appreciate your advice!

    Also, last of all, if there is any group or free organization, promoting MMS production and ship to people that need it, like in Africa, please provide links and how we can join/support their efforts.

    1. Hi Chris,

      Here are my opinions to your questions:

      1. Which substance is better in eliminating terminal diseases, like Cancer & AIDS, Hydrogen Peroxide or Miracle Mineral Solution ?

      Whatever works for the person who is striving to get well. Not trying to be glib. Suggesting that hydrogen peroxide, MMS, or anything else will “eliminate terminal diseases” is no more realistic than thinking that chemotherapy will. A number of factors are in effect when any disease becomes chronic, not the least of which is the mental and emotional attitude of the individual. No one can speak to the efficacy of a treatment without taking the individual receiving said treatment in consideration.

      The body doesn’t get terminal diseases. There is no such thing. If a person is acutely ill but still breathing, and desires to continue breathing and be relatively well again, the body has the ability to repair itself and function properly, should the “host” re-establish an environment that is conducive to healthy functioning. MMS can contribute to that process. What it delivers is important, but does not represent the whole of the well-being matrix.

      2. Which of these is safer?

      MMS is a milder oxidant than hydrogen peroxide. It only oxidizes anaerobic and other low pH molecules. I think you can answer which may be safer from that.

      3. Does it cure 100% or the ailment may return if you later stop taking the substance ?

      Are you serious? Do you really think that anything or anyone can make that claim?

      4. Something unclear, I read somewhere about dental issues and some roots with non-circulating blood in them, which contain the viruses, and thus, make it return when you stop intake, how can this be fixed, in plain English ? (any links ?)


      You’ll have to ask your question in plain English. It’s unclear to me too.

      5. Does the MMS have problems when taken with other drugs, such as Thyroid Hormone and Anti-Allergic treatment ? (Does someone with Hypo-Thyroid stop medication while on MMS, and will MMS cure Hypo-Theroid malfunction forever ?)

      Chlorine dioxide doesn’t “have problems” with anything but vitamin C, which will essentially turn it off. Any medication that is low pH will give up electrons to a chlorine dioxide molecule.

      No one can answer the other part of that question, because no two people are the same. One answer doesn’t “fit” all.

      I understand that there are organizations doing what you describe with MMS in Africa, but I am not a repository of such information. However, if you find out something, let us know.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  459. mike van

    Thanks for your response Adam. About 4 years ago, I woke up one morning and was dizzy and tired. I went to the doctor and he said wait about two weeks and then we’ll see what happens. After two weeks, I was much worse, with intense virtago and other problems. I went to numerous doctors and specialists who had me do every kind of test you can imagine. After the MRI’s and catscans and blood work came back negative, they all started to tell me that it was either in my head, or just a virus that settled in my inner ear. After two years, it went away and I was fine. Then recently, I woke up one morning with all the same symptoms. Again, the same result with the doctors and so i started to research online. I actually read something on MMS on one of those Yahoo question and answer sites, so I started to look into it. I never try anything with out doing enough research for myself and after doing so, i deceided it was time to try it. I have felt better even before i started the MMS so right now I really don’t see a diference. Basically, I want to clear out what ever virus (if it even was one) that caused my problem. I am only 29 so, I want to get rid of the toxins before they build even more.

    Do you know what to do about the Antioxidants? and any websites that could show actual before and after slides of Blood using MMS?

    1. Hi Mike,

      Do you notice whether the onset of this condition coincides with certain types of events, such as some form of high excitation, shock, injury, or even emotional trauma? It could even be a major change in your life just before that two-year episode that you described. Just curious.

      There certainly could be an environmental factor — something airborne or contracted through some other form of exposure or consumption, that is in your body that your immune system might very well take care of, but will flair up again due after eggs hatch, starting the cycle again.

      This is just conjecture on my part, but chlorine dioxide would oxidize unhatched parasitic eggs too, as their cell walls are in the range of its reactivity.

      I’m not sure what you mean about the antioxidants.

      I talked to a man about three months ago who had been diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma which had been confirmed by an AMAS test, and was encouraged to use MMS by a friend who had used it while eliminating his liver cancer condition. The man said he wanted to achieve what his friend had done. About a month ago, he called me back with great excitement, saying that he took MMS, and felt great, but his friend insisted that he take another AMAS test to confirm just what had, or had not happened. The test came back negative. No lymphoma.

      I have to assume that laboratory tests are indeed capable of showing the after effect of “disinfecting” the blood of pathogens.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  460. mike van

    i am sorry i forgot to write this yesterday. I started taking MMS about 2 weeks ago with one drop, increasing everyday. I had no problems until i hit day 9. Since then i have backed down drops, but still getting the Big D. I use grape juice without vit C in the morning on an empty stomach. About an hour later i eat something and then maybe about a half hour after that i have going to the bathroom. I don’t mean to sound gross, but i don’t know where else to ask this question. When i go to the bathroom it smells exactly like grape juice. Does this mean that the MMS i am taking in the morning just goes right through me and that my body is rejecting it?

    1. Hi Mike,

      Hey, don’t worry about “gross.” The worse question is the one unasked. Outside of cutting back on the drops, the first thing I’d do would be to find another carrier than the grape juice you’re presently using. Cherry and pomegranate are pleasant enough. Diarrhea isn’t necessarily a problem, as it means that the MMS is neutralizing more stuff that needs to be flushed out of the system.

      You can also activate the MMS and then add 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO, and apply it to the skin, bypassing the intestinal tract altogether and getting the chlorine dioxide into the bloodstream. You would activate the MMS as you normally do, waiting the three minutes for the chlorine dioxide to be generated. Then you’d add the DMSO and wait another three minutes before applying topically. After getting some feedback from your body, you might do that several times in the day.

      BTW, are you taking the MMS to achieve a specific objective?

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  461. mike van

    hi Adam, i have been recently reading about MMS because I got so tired of my Doctor telling me they couldn’t find anything wrong with me, even though I felt awful. Finally after enough research, I decided to give MMS a try for myself. There only seems to be a little information on the use of Antioxidants, such as Protease, while using MMS. How long after taking MMS is it ok to take an antioxidant? Also, I have read somewhere (don’t know exactly what site) that if you get diarrea immeadiately after taking MMS, then it is NOT a good thing. How true is that and about how long should the effects of diarrea come on? I know Jim says that the MMS can be released for up to twelve hours, so does that mean that the ill effects of the detoxing (such as nauseous or upset stomach as well as the big d) can last that long as well?

    Thanks.. Mike

    Oh and one more thing. Are there any websites that show an actual slide of blood before and after using MMS?

  462. Jeanne

    Hi Adam,
    I have been on clay for 17 days now, with no change in my many syptoms yet. I am waiting to hear back from Jim with his thoughts on my progress. I thought I’d check with you, I figure there is never too much help. I’ll try to give you a little more info. on what has happened.

    2006 had been very healthy, and active. In Nov. 2006 I went to Mexico. About 6 months before that my bedroom was found to be chuck full of mold.
    In 2007 I started having my heart race, sometimes very near the point of passing out. I also would get dizzy, and lose some equalibrium. And I would cough, sometimes to the point of throwing up. These would only happen once or twice a month so for the most part I was okay. In November 2007 I got immediate bad diareah, the upper abdomen bloating, and felt like I was going to bust, just before going to ER I through up, and got some relief. Laid still for three days not eating or drinking, and it went away as quickly as it came.
    January 2008, chest pain and burping. Then the upper ab. swelling, and bursting pain a few hours after food or WATER. Going off food, and water did not help this time, so I went to doctors. Over months they found inflammed colon, intestines,stomach, & organs, very bad liver tests, low white count, heart raced & inflammed, tongue had yellow color, head would hurt horribly, joints, numbness, very dizzy, armpits swollen, I felt toxic and poisoned. But I did not have any diseases they put a name on so they sent me home. I went in as needed, and lived on IV fluids. I did test positive for parasites, they gave me meds. and I started to get some food and water down. I was so HAPPY. But only lasted about a week, & the busting pain was back. I also was still testing positive for parasites. After three months my weight was so dangerously low; I found a doctor that forced my body to take fluids and food. After weeks it worked; still had all the horrible symptoms.

    I have seen a ton of doctors (medical & natural) with no change. When I got fungus mentioned by Jim in December it made some sense of why docs haven’t found the cause of my illness yet, and why 29 drops of MMS made no change. I haven’t had any docs mention or test for fungus.
    I have talked with Dennis Richards on silver, he said if it is fungus, that has gotten to this point he did no feel it would be effective. He mentioned John Humistons kit. I know that you have spoken with Dr. Humiston, and did not know if there was a way to reach him. I would love to have a conformation on what is causing this, or better yet find what my body needs to get back to living.

    Your time and knowledge is very appreciated. Thank you, Jeanne.

    1. Jean, I’m going to see if I can get another opinion for you. Hang in there another day or two, and let’s see what we come up with.

      You mention the parasites, and that they gave you meds for them. I’ll assume that the meds were toxic. Sounds to me that an intestinal cleanse might speed this process up. Try the Oxy-Powder, as it dissolves anything that is lining the wall of the entire length of the colon, which could be a nest and breeding ground for parasites. Better yet, it’s natural — oxygen and magnesium. The body can use both of them beneficially. There’s a link in the article above.

      We’ll also see what feedback I get from another source. I’ll let you know in a few days.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  463. Clint

    Clare:

    I agree ! I am forever greatful that we have have Mavericks like Adam and Jim on our side to consult with.

    Hope you are well !

    Clint

  464. Clare

    Hey Clint!
    Great to see your name again, many thanks for the heads up, hope your “wellness” is great and getting greater. How blessed are we that we have this wonderful resourse and instant info at our fingertips. Not forgetting Adam our “guardian angel” in our quest for health and wholeness.
    Cheers
    Clare

  465. Clint

    Clare:

    Here’s Jim Humbles website with step by step instructions on how to apply MMS via the skin:

    Click here !

  466. Clare

    Hi again Adam,
    I wanted to know the protocol for topical application of MMS for Basal Cell carcinomas. Could you please advise.
    Many thanks
    Clare

    1. I spoke to a man who eliminated his basal cell carcinoma the old fashion MMS way, by taking it orally. He didn’t mention DMSO at all, although you can certainly use it. Are you familiar with the “Overnight Cure for Cancer” protocol that uses activated MMS, and then bound with DMSO, to be applied topically? Here’s the link:

      http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html

      A~

  467. Clare

    Hi Adam,
    I followed your suggestion and “asked” my body what I needed to do re my fatty liver. I am a occasional drinker only so it is too much dairy etc that has bought this on. I am now (2nd week) on Dr Sandra Cabots Liver cleansing diet. Its hard but the results are amazing!! over 2 kg weight loss and feeling very energetic. I need to lose 10kgs so I am very happy . Its a 8 week programme and I am determined to succeed.
    Thanks again for your blessed blog site and your amazing patience.May the great Universal Divinity bless all.
    Cheers
    Clare

    1. Clare,

      It’s great to re-establish communication with your trusty servant. It IS really looking out for you, and can advise you as to what it needs better than anyone else. I’m glad that you’re starting to get some great results.

      Best wishes and GREAT health to you!

      Adam…

  468. Hi, someone at work told me about MMS, I am wondering what the benifits are for weight loss. I am not drastically overweight, but have put on 30 + lbs since I’ve stopped running and boxing. I am working more hrs (10 day x 6 days, for a construction project), and after a severe muscle tear in my ankle, and a surgery for a ruptoured cysts in Dec 07. I’ve seem to hit a brick wall, I am tired all the time, can’t focus, don’t have any energy, pain in my stomach almost daily, and 5 or more monthly migranes. I know I need to start excercising again…but can’t seem to get the energy? Ideas or thoughts?

    thanks

  469. Carie

    Hi Adam
    Horay thant’s great to hear it dosen’t kill your killer cells and bodies natural defences.
    Thankyou so much for reassuring me on this point, now I can try MMS at last i have been wanting to for a while now.
    Thankyou for your kind help
    All the best for 2009
    Carie (UK)

    1. Of course Carie, and thank you too!

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  470. Hi, someone at work told me about MMS, I am wondering what the benifits are for weight loss. I am not drastically overweight, but have put on 30 + lbs since I’ve stopped running and boxing. I am working more hrs (10 day x 6 days, for a construction project), and after a severe muscle tear in my ankle, and a surgery for a ruptoured cysts in Dec 07. I’ve seem to hit a brick wall, I am tired all the time, can’t focus, don’t have any energy, pain in my stomach almost daily, and 5 or more monthly migranes. I know I need to start excercising again…but can’t seem to get the energy? Ideas or thoughts?

    thanks

    1. Hi Kate, “weight loss” is often not about what we think it’s about. We tend to think that being “overweight” means having too much “fat”… too much meat on the bones. Being overweight is more so carrying too much unprocessed and uneliminated fecal material, which lines the 28 feet of the colon. We’re friends here. You don’t have to answer the question, but you need to ask yourself how many times you “go”… if you know what I mean… each day. If it’s not generally three times, or occur in some regular pattern each day, you’ve got a backlog of “stuff”.

      That “stuff” is a nest for pathogens, anaerobic microbes, yeast, mold, and parasites.

      That’s why I now suggest that people do an intestinal cleanse even before starting their MMS protocol. You’ll see a link to Oxy-Powder in another reply not too far up from here. I believe it will give the MMS less to have to work through in order to get to the wall of the colon.

      The migraines suggest a liver problem… and “problem” suggests blockage. Sounds like you have a bit too much toxicity, and it’s not being properly eliminated from the body. MMS is a great way to reduce it. Drinking alkaline or structured water will always help, as will the intestinal cleanse before you start it all. Dr. Edward Group of Houston TX, who developed Oxy-Powder, also says that he’s seen best results from cleanses after 3’s, 6’s, and 9’s, as in the number of times they were done.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  471. John

    Adam,

    My wife has severe rheumatoid arthritis. She now is beginning to show signs of joint deterioration. Can MMS help with RA?

    Thanks or your time.

    John

    1. John, the short answer would be “yes,” chlorine dioxide would help with rheumatoid arthritis. But I’m long-winded, and “yes” is too short of an answer. It’s best to understand why. Your wife isn’t experiencing inflammation, joint pain and deterioration due to age. It’s due to (1) insufficient hydration, (2) microbial overgrowth, and (3) too much toxicity (acidity) in that area.

      Insufficient hydration can occur due to any blockage in the circulatory system, which is not comprised of just veins and arteries, but much smaller passageways such as capillaries. According to Jim Walker, Holocaust: American Style, the circulatory system in the human body has 62,000 miles of plumbing. It should be looked upon as a hydraulic system, with fluid pumped through it. Blockages, caused by plaque build-up, or particulates in the blood plasma (water), will inhibit circulation in some areas. When the inhibition is prolonged, blockage happens. When blockage is prolonged, oxygen supply to the area is restricted, and when that occurs, cell death (necrosis) happens.

      When cell death happens, microorganisms that don’t need oxygen to live on, are summoned. Their purpose is to sustain life, by halting the spread of cell death. After all, if the necrosis continued to spread, the host would eventually be toast. However, the anaerobic microorganisms also produce waste products, which lower the body’s pH. Plus, the more severe the necrosis, the larger the microbial party. And so, a circle is created… or perhaps a downward spiral that gets worse the longer it lasts.

      Enter chlorine dioxide, a gaseous molecule with a weak bond that lasts in that state for only 2 hours, and breaks down into a harmless amount of salt and water. However, while it exists, it can immediately de-activate any anaerobic microorganism because it takes up to 5 of the electrons from the molecular structures that maintain the integrity of the organism’s physical form. When this electron transfer occurs, the microorganism, or the organic pathogen (heavy metal, etc.), becomes debris, to be “flushed” out of the body.

      I got carried away. The answer is “yes,” MMS can help RA. Your wife should drink some form of high alkaline or structured water, to ensure effective hydration. Hydration would mean that oxygen is getting into the cell, which can then be converted into ATP (energy). That’s when life and health happens.

      Best wishes,

      Adam..

  472. Jack

    Adam. Matter of fact I do have some oxy-powder, and

    Questions about oxy-powder

    1. My bowel movement comes out like I had the runs. Is this normal? They don’t say anything about that on the bottle

    2. I tried using it for two days. First day, woke up to a nice evacuation that was so copious that I do not see how the rest of the day could have brought any more, (i.e. 3-5 times more trips). No way. Got it all out on that first one, sure seems like. But, I upped the dose anyway like the bottle said, and had the same experience next morning, and then that was it.

    Should I keep upping the does anyway? Very hard for me to believe I will eventually get the required number of movements this way, considering how successful the first one in the morning has been.

    regards,
    Jack

    1. Hi Jack,

      BMs will be loose. It is liquifying “stuff” that was compacted. So I’d say that’s normal.

      I wouldn’t fret about it if you didn’t go 3-5 times that day, if what you did do was significant. When I took it I went more than 5 times.

      [Is this an open forum or what?]

      These are guidelines and likelihoods. Nothing is “required” for success. Success is evacuating that stuff that’s in the colon… looks like you’re doing it.

      Another indicator is whether the discharge “clears up”… and is no longer the dark “soup”… if you know what I mean. As long as it’s dark, I’d continue. You can experiment with the number of capsules. Here is some more information from the formulator:


      How will I know when my bowels are clean and the old compacted fecal matter is gone?

      Everyone’s results differ depending on their diet, exercise patterns, and age as well as physical and emotional stress levels. The frequency of your bowel movements will usually begin to diminish as the digestive tract rids itself of toxic matter. The stools may still continue to be loose or semi-solid, however, due to the oxidation process.

      At this point the nascent oxygen will be available for the body to absorb through the capillary walls in the intestinal lining thereby aiding the body in the purification of the blood, organs, and lymph system. However, to ensure you continue to stay as clean inside as possible, you should eat only live, raw fruits and vegetables and completely eliminate the intake of all toxins.

      Because the Standard American Diet (SAD) is so poor, we believe you will need to cleanse on a continuous basis to help keep the entire intestinal lining clean. Therefore, we recommend a continued maintenance dose every other evening at the minimum. Use your bowel activity as a guide. You will know how “clean” you are by the color, consistency, and frequency of your bowel movements.

      As the intestinal tract is becoming cleaner, the color of the bowel movement should be much lighter and transit time (time from eating to elimination) should be shorter. You should also be experiencing more frequent, healthy, softer, and smoother bowel movements. The oxygen released by Oxy-Powder® is helping to kill all kinds of anaerobic bacteria.

      Some people will notice a foul smell in the initial stages of cleansing. Over time, there should be a noticeable decrease in foul-smelling bowel movements. A normal and healthy bowel moves in a timely manner, with the “product” being lighter in color, relatively smooth, and also slick in appearance.

      Probably much more than enough said. 🙂

      Regards,

      Adam…

  473. Clint

    Thanks Adam !

    Best wishes to you in 2009 as well !

    I do have a question I’ve been meaning to ask you …

    I have an Ozone machine and use it while am doing MMS . . . (I do rectal insufflations 1 or 2x’s a day)

    My question is… will the Ozone that is in my system, inactivate or cause the MMS to be ineffective if I do them BOTH at the same time ?

    Thanks again Adam,

    Clint

    1. The only thing I know that will deactivate the chlorine dioxide molecule, or its generation, is vitamin C. Ozone has characteristics that are unique to it, that don’t appear to conflict with chlorine dioxide or MMS. I figure Jim would have said something about it by now, so that’s my best guess.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  474. Carie

    Hi Adam
    Please could you reply to my question of 4th Jan regarding what you said about MMS killing killer cells in the above article.
    Id really appreciate your help clarifying this as i am poised ready and wanting to order MMS but need to find the answer to this first.
    Thankyou for your help
    Carie

  475. Clint

    Adam……. I swear… you have the Patients of Jobe !!

    😉

    1. Hey Clint! I thought that issue had been tabled. Hopefully he’s happy now. 🙂

      Best 2009 wishes to you!

      Adam…

  476. ROBERT G. SCHULZ

    THIS IS MY FOURTH REQUEST.
    PLEASE SEND ME THE RECIPE FOR
    CILANTRO PESTRO. I WOULD
    APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. OR, CAN YOU GIVE ME THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF
    ADAM ABRAHAM, SO I CAN CONNECT.
    THANKYOU, tdschulz@aol.com

    1. Robert,

      I am not the custodian or keeper of cilantro pesto recipes. However, on December 16 I included a link to what may be what you’re looking for. If I could search for it and find it, so could you. But here it is again.

      http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  477. perry volaine

    i have a question,i have had hep c for i,m assuming 20 or 30 years,i just found out recently,6 years back,now i do a virail load test every 6 months and my emzyme levels are always normal with no liver damage at all,as soon as i heard of mms i purchased some and have been on it for aproxx 2 weeks,when i hit 13 drops i increased the dosage x 3 every day,its my 6th day on 3×15 and i have been ill for 3 of them with lots of dihharia,i also have been very strict with my health even before i found out i had hep c,i think it is what has kept my immune system charged to keep the hep c at bay,but i,m sure as i get older my immune system would weaken and the hep c would then prevail,i really belive in this mms and if you have any suggestions or have heard of any similair sympytons that would be much appriciated,as soon as i do the complete cleanse i will do a virail load test and let you know the results,do you think the sickness is the result of the battle with the hep c and should i stay on it untill the sickness is gone??thankyou so much,perry

  478. Jack

    sorry one more question:

    I understand about ions, and about gaining or losing an electron. But we’re talking about atoms when we use these terms. At least in any science I have ever learned. “Positively charge hydrogen atom” for example.

    A pathogen is not an atom, but an extremely complex collection of different types of atoms and molecules. I don’t understand what you mean above when you say that pathogen is stripped of some of its electrons, with all that in mind. If pathogens were individual atoms this would make much more sense to me.

    What am I missing?

    Thanks again!

    1. There are single celled organisms, but even they are made up of many atoms. There are no single atomed organisms. Depending on the organism, the atoms that comprise it will be “organized” by a unique combination of proton(+)/neutrons, and electrons (-), as a solar system or galaxy would be. Electrons move around the proton/neutron (nucleus) in an orbital path, at a very specific angle. A specific number of each atom (which itself is a very specific system of subatomic components) will materially represent a specific particle, such that which would comprise the cell wall of an E. coli bacteria. Each molecule will have a specific number of electrons orbiting the proton/neutron nucleus that holds the cluster together. One characteristic of these molecules, is that the frequency signature that they emanate will be chemically measurable as having an acidic pH.

      Such molecules now become “donors” to a chlorine dioxide molecule, which will draw up to 5 electrons from the acidic molecule, which effectively causes it to chemically break down and reorganize into something else. The “something else” has been shown to be inert and non-toxic, unlike the chemical process that occurs when a chlorine molecule has a similar encounter.

      Since electromagnetic forces are at work here, and all pathogens and anaerobic microorganisms happen to emit chemical signatures that measure somewhere in the same acidic range, the only determining factor as to whether they will be eradicated, is contact itself. The susceptible microorganism may be pleomorphic, but they cannot sufficiently enough to become alkaline. That’s the only way that a chlorine dioxide molecule will not react and accept their electrons on contact.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  479. Jack

    phaelosopher – thank you. Actually I meant “The” MMS people and was referring to those manufacturing and marketing it.

    In any case I have three questions, and thanks in advance for you help:

    1. If I want to continue to take C, I understand that I can, as long as I don’t take it at the same time as the MMS. Correct?

    2. How much time should there be between the two? (around 500mg of C, in a multi vitamin Im taking)

    3. As long as I can stand it, MMS on an empty stomach is better, no?

    Warm regards,
    Jack

    1. Yo Jack,

      1. Yes.
      2. 3-4 hours. If you were taking 2-5 grams, 8-12 hours (if feasible)
      3. The emptier the stomach, the better. In fact, you’ll get more effect in fewer drops.

      I’ll also suggest that you consider a 7-day intestinal cleanse before starting, using Oxy-Powder (a combination of oxygen and magnesium). It’ll eat away any “stuff” that is lining the colon that the MMS would have to work through, and help the chlorine dioxide get into the bloodstream through the colon wall faster. You take four capsules at night on an empty stomach before going to bed. The next day, you’ll have to go “unload” 5-7 times. It’s not a laxative.

      http://shop.understanding-mms.com/oxy-powder.aspx

      Regards,

      Adam…

  480. Clint

    Great Jack…. am glad your biting the bullet !

    Look forward to hearing good results,

    Clint

  481. Jack

    Thanks for the above responses. I know I sounded quite critical and doubtful, but in fact I’m going to give MMS a try for low level candida, and possible parasites. Going to try and get some today. I live in Bali, Indonesia. Amazingly, it is available here, and it’s not too much more than the U.S. price.

    Reason I’m going to try it is that

    1. I’m convinced it won’t do any harm, and,

    2. I have read Humbles detailed and tedious technical responses to critics (bit difficult for a non biologist, lol), and he certainly seems to be able to hold his ground. Impressive. If he was a quack, he sure did his homework, I’ll hand him that, lol.

    3. I have a great many Balinese friends who cannot afford good medical care for things like Dengue fever, cancer, et al. In the interest of finding an alternative I could recommend to them, Ill try it MMS out.

    But:

    Hyperbole is great when your selling a new car, or kitchen doo-dad on a telemarketing spot. It is downright irresponsible when selling health cures, IMHO. Humble may think it that it will help spread the message, but it most very definitely turned me off, as well as the two other blokes I know reading about this, and it took a great deal of effort on my part to “get over it”. Humble should consider that most of us out here looking at this are not a buncha dumb 12 years olds.

    Also, we must always be careful of coming to quick conclusions, me included. I have a friend here who knows a guy who had his blood tested for something, (forgot what) had a pathogen, took MMS for a couple of weeks or so, had his blood retested, and the results were very positive. But in addition to the MMS, I believe he also he did an entire health regime involving many positive things. How easy and tempting it would be for a distributor of MMS to point at that as proof – when in fact, it could have been due to any of a number of positive things the guy did.

    If you MMS people cannot afford to do a proper double blind truly academic study to shut up the naysayers, look for investors who will put up the cash for it in exchange for future returns on sales of the product. There are people out there who would take a chance on it, I’m quite sure.

    Thanks again for your responses phaelosopher and clint. I will post here what results I get. Might take a month or so though.

    1. Hi Jack,

      I got a call today from an ecstatic man who had non-hogkins lymphoma a couple months ago. An AMAS test confirmed it. He was calling today to tell me that he no longer had the cancer, and another AMAS test confirmed that. This turns out to be the man (with a friend named Joe), who I referred to in my long reply last week. Sam is 62 years of age, and acknowledged that the process wasn’t fun. He said he was “sick” for a period of time, and that it passed. His friend Joe insisted that he get another AMAS test. He was hesitant, but finally relented, and was rewarded with confirmation.

      No one is trying to over state what chlorine dioxide does. It’s not a magic bullet or a cure all. No one should rely on sound bytes to make life affecting decisions, although millions of people do when they succumb to the suggestion to “see your doctor” for just about everything short of permission going to the bathroom. I think Jim understands that too, because I’d bet that no one who monitors this forum relied solely on Jim’s initial claims, and very likely were reserved, if not skeptical, myself included.

      You mention “MMS people”… “MMS people” don’t care about “academic double blind” studies. They care about getting well, and what will help them do that. In that sense, you’re an “MMS person” since you used your own common sense, and took responsibility for your choice after weighing the information available. All “investors” would do would be to try to drive the price of the product up to make it more profitable. Who needs, or wants that (other than investor types)?

      In any event, thanks for your thoughtful input, and best wishes…

      Adam…

  482. Carie

    Hi Adam
    Id really really like to give mms a go as i have been ill for years with a terrible imune system, i am told from tests i have a very low killers cell count. I am constantly beaten down with virus’s and just get one on top of the next. They say it’s M.E
    In your article under ‘A journey into chemical alchemy’, in paragraph 4 you say ‘this compound kills off pathogens, KILLER CELLS, and even cancerous cells’
    Is this really true does MMS kill off the bodies killer cells? As i am so deficient in them i wouldn’t want to kill any more off! Does this mean that you would have to take mms forever as when you stopped you would have no natural defences left?
    Or am i misunderstanding something?
    Id appreciate your advice very much
    Thanks
    Carie

    1. Hi Carie,

      Somewhere I thought I had responded to this, but I hadn’t. Chlorine dioxide does one thing, oxidize molecules that “vibrate” in the acidic range of the pH spectrum. Some molecule clusters are more complex than others… for example, a virus or other anaerobic microorganism, versus a mold, yeast, or tumor. The factor that each shares in common with the other, is emanating a “signature” or “frequency” that is low pH, which also has oxygen inhibiting, antagonistic, or averse properties. The chlorine dioxide molecule takes away up to five of the “valence electrons” that hold these molecule clusters together, thus ceasing their existence in that form.

      My use of the term “killer cells” referred to “cells” — actually organisms — that, perhaps due to their overgrowth, have a net detrimental effect on the host — meaning you or me — as opposed to those whose function is to work on our behalf, such as leukocytes (white blood cells) or T-Cells (lymphocytes). None of these are negatively affected by the presence, or action of chlorine dioxide.

      Also, I am not an advocate of thinking of anything “physical” in terms of “forever,” including MMS intake. Jim Humble would likely say otherwise. As an individual becomes more aware of how to sustain his or her health, and be healthy, not only of body, but of mind and spirit, health and the ability to perpetually heal will come from within, which is where it comes from now.

      Chlorine dioxide and every other modality that works, does so only with your and my readiness to be well, awareness (or belief) of our power to affect it (well-being), desire, and permission. This is an ongoing process from one moment to the next.

      Chlorine dioxide creates no physiological dependencies. No one is going to get “addicted” to it. You can use it as long as there is evidence that it is needed.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  483. Clint

    Dearest Jack:

    Because this product is legally available, and so easy to use, no amount of “they’re trying to suppress it” would keep this from being a runaway major news story, on the front pages of the world.

    Please don’t hold your breath . . . am not sure how long you’ve been observing things, but . . . (and I mean no insult by this) There is TOO much money to be lost in “Treatment and Diagnosing” rather than curing someone.

    If your wondering WHY MMS hasn’t taken off, and being used my more people, doctors, clinics, etc…. You NEED to read about (as an example) Get Dr. Royal Raymond Rife (if you haven’t already)

    And you will have then answered your own question.

    MMS has already started to be Banned from Mexico & Canada . . . with the U.S. to be next.

    From this, you might can get an idea of how the “System” works in America . . . it’s corrupt.

    Doctors think as a Group, NOT as Individuals . . . (cept of course our dear friend Dr. Hummiston, and thank God for him !)

    Anyway… sorry if I ranted…

    Clint

  484. Chuck

    I cannot comment to the success of MMS because I just recently started to use it. But I can comment on a cure that has been out there and it has been suppress by the company who makes it. Oh yea – you can cover up product results because the product is to good cures to many things. Have you heard of TetraSilver-TetraOxide. First you do your clinical studies in a 3rd world country (Honduras) then you get many patents on the product then you get the FDA approval for its use then you water down the product and sell it. Remember the most important thing about business is creating repeat customers. If you were to cure people (customers) you would have a loss of income ($$$$). Just search the web with the name of “TetraSilver-TextraOxide. Read the Patents. One last thing Chlorine Dioxide is used for water treatment well Trivalent silver – TetraSilver TetraOxide is also used to treat water. See I am sick and I have been able to get the water down version of TetraSilver but I can’t get a full strength product so I have now started to use MMS and will see how it goes. Thx.

  485. Jack

    Adam:” I have been reading the posts here that go back a whole year now. Quite a lot to read. Where are the real tales of real miracle cures? Unequivocal, real cases with no if, no but, no pause, no maybe.

    Mr. Humble says this will cure nearly every pathogen caused disease there is! My God do any of you know what that means for humanity if true? Because this product is legally available, and so easy to use, no ammount of “they’re trying to suppress it” would keep this from being a runaway major news story, on the front pages of the world. “They’re trying to suppress it!” is the fall back excuse for health frauds everywhere.

    If it worked for even one aids patient, he would certainly have immediately recommended it to all the other patients he knows. It would then immediately get talked about on AIDS discussion groups, and spread like wildfire. The resulting snowball would take at most a few months to envelop the world, and out-momentum the most enthusiastic of “they’re suppressing it!” attempts.

    Adam, this forum should be chock full of real miracles by now. Instead, it’s chock full of people who are “experimenting” with it.

    Humble should have won some sort of Nobel Prize for medicine by now. Works for Malaria? I live in a country full of Malaria. If this even cured 25% of malaria cases it we would all know about this by now.

    As a businessman of 35 years, who has developed many different products and brought them to market, this argument of “they’re suppressing it” sorry, just don’t fly. The FDA and others may very well be trying to keep it from coming to market, but their not Gods. If this did what it says then then entrepreneurs of the world would have found a way by now to take this to a vastly bigger market than it has reached so far.

    1. Hello Jack,

      There are no miracles here, just information and support for those who need it. Jim’s hyperbolic statement has more integrity than the idea that chemotherapy or radiation can help “cure” cancer, but no statement will apply to all instances. MMS / chlorine dioxide WILL reduce pathogens, when standard medical procedures treat pathogen infested bodies by introducing more pathogens.

      When there are too many pathogens in the body — inorganic or microbial — health suffers. Chlorine dioxide is a known water purifier that safely reduces pathogens. There’s nothing miraculous about that. What’s changing is the public’s understanding of what’s really going on, and their willingness to see for themselves whether, and how it works for them.

      I have spoken to people who have watched cancer tumors disappear, warts disappear or drop off after many years, lyme symptoms go away, hepatitis symptoms leave, and many more. One man called me recently whose friend Joe (not Joe the plumber) called me several times when had liver cancer, not for advice, but explanation of how it works; the chemistry. The friend watched what happened to Joe (restored health), and wants the same thing for himself. He doesn’t have liver cancer, but want his health back. MMS doesn’t cure cancer. It reduces pathogen overgrowth, enough to allow the immune system to function again. So Joe told him to call me to do what he did, get a better understanding of what MMS/chlorine dioxide does.

      The big revelation to all this, is that healing is not the big deal everyone has been led to think it is. Most people still don’t believe it, but many are now finding out for themselves. It will be this way for some time.

      This forum is just one place where MMS is discussed. Certainly not the only one. There are stories of success here, but we’re not trying to prove or convince anyone of anything here. If someone needs help, it’s being given by people who understand that it can help. They also understand that MMS is not a magic bullet, nor a miracle cure. It’s a simple chemical compound that has been ingeniously conceived and applied to a major problem of humanity. But each will get the “memo” in their own time. It still requires the individual’s willingness to see what works best for him or her self.

      I’m not concerned about suppression. No one has suppressed us here. You say that the forum should be full of miracles by now, as if the dearth of such testimonials indicates some failure. I believe the FACT that it’s chock full of people who are experimenting with MMS is proof positive of the site’s success. At the top of this web page is a simple article with information about MMS that, as of this writing, almost 60,000 people have read and found beneficial. They’re free to use it or move on. Below the page is the community that was spawned, of people who respect each others’ willingness to listen, and to share.

      We don’t live in the world of “should be.” This is the world of what is. Whether Jim Humble gets a Nobel Prize for MMS is meaningless to someone racked in pain from cancer. What is meaningful is whether the pain goes away, the tumors shrivel up and disappear, whether energy and vitality returns. ENOUGH people are reporting positive results… to their friends, families, loved ones, doctors and neighbors, to keep the buzz going and growing .

      A medical missionary called me the other day to tell me of an M.D. who is on the Cambodia / Thailand border, administering MMS to children with malaria. In five initial cases with children, two got well in a matter of hours, just as Jim Humble described. This is with NO prior experience with MMS… just reading the instructions. The caller was asking for clarification from Jim Humble on how to improve their results. People are still LEARNING what’s possible… people who are INTERESTED in the SUCCESS… not of MMS, but of healing. As long as healing happens when people use MMS, they’ll continue to endure the smell and taste. They’ll continue giving themselves a chance to be well again.

      “Modern medicine” isn’t offering such hope, nor do the results support them. Nonetheless, institutions are collecting billions each year to do research “for the cure,” but all they deliver are updates on how many years it’ll be before their “cure” is discovered. In the meantime, poison remains one of the fundamental tools in the “modern” medical doctor’s toolkit. Compromising the immune system remains an accepted medical practice in hospital practices so that the drugs and other antagonistic approaches can be used. They try to bring about health by dominating Mother Nature, which is not only an exercise in futility, but delusion.

      You’re right. The FDA are not Gods. What people are learning, is that they have much more power than the doctors and the medical system would have them think. MMS is just one tool that can help, and is exactly where it needs to be right now. People are becoming more aware, primarily because it is working. If it wasn’t delivering some form of noticeable, meaningful and beneficial results, you can bet that would be the predominant conversation.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  486. Clint

    Chelsey:

    Tough call… Adam may have some more exact experience with that.

    For Me, I avoid it all together when taking MMS, as well as Multi-minerals with C in it. But that’s just me. I always believe that the C will be active more than a day, even though it’s a water soluble vitamin.

    My 2c

    Clint

  487. Chelsey

    Clint,

    I avoid vitamin C on the day of the treatment which I only do once a week. Should I avoid it on the days leading up to the treatment? In my doctor’s instructions it simply said to avoid vitamin C during treatment. I assumed that meant on the day that I do it.

    Thanks again,
    Chelsey

    1. Chelsey,

      My sense is that you’re doing things fine with vit. C. While it will de-activate the chlorine dioxide generating actions of MMS if you take it concurrently, there’s no reason to avoid it before hand. Outside of pathogen reduction, the body has no inherent physiological need for chlorine dioxide, in the way that it has definite needs for amino acids, enzymes, and aerobic microorganisms. Individually, chlorine dioxide molecules last only 2-hours. Jim says that the generating process can last as much as 12. It’s also permissible to ingest juices that *naturally* contain vit. C. So it’s only if you’re taking large doses if it’s even an issue. You’re doing some great things for yourself. You should see and *feel* the results you’re seeking as your body gets back in balance.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  488. Adam,

    One more question. Do you have any experience using MMS to cure or mitigate Macular Degeneration? My nextdoor neighbor just returned to Florida for the winter and has developed a bad case.

    Thanks again, Ben

  489. Thanks, Adam.

    I can see that I must better understand the role of oxygen and what happens when there is not enough.

    Thanks a bunch, Ben

  490. Clint

    Chelsey:

    I wanted to ask you…

    You mentioned just above here that you take a Multi-vitamin…. PLEASE be sure that the vitamins you are taking don’t contain ANY vitamin C. As the Vit.C will disable or neutralize the MMS….thus making it ineffective.

    Hence the reason why you might not be gaining much/any headway.

    Just a thought.

    Clint

  491. Chelsey

    I accidently chopped off a paragraph there. I do take multi vitamins, Q 10, fish oils, Gla, a prescription B vitamin called Cerapholin with NAC, an iron food supplement and Mega minerals.

    Chelsey

  492. Chelsey

    Thanks for the replies, Clint, Adam,

    I am taking that advice you both gave about drinking more water. My health issue has been going on for almost 10 years now. My doctor and I think I’m a case of heavy metal poisoning from a job I had. My symptoms are chronic fatigue, anxiety, depression, anemia, very high cortisol for years now, high c reactive protien, inflammation, adrenal exhaustion at one point, hypothryoid with a nodule in one lobe, and a higher than normal virus load (cytomegalovirus, epstien barr). Also I can’t forget the IBS. I don’t have diarrhea or constipation. I simply have extreme bloating on a daily basis. I also seem to be allergic to just about everything I eat, though my allergy test only picked out five things. A couple years ago I did IV chelation. Can’t say for sure if that helped at all or not, but in about a years time after I was starting to have more good days than bad. I thought things were looking up for me but then about 5 months ago my fingertips started wrinkling up and burning, feet too. My latest diagnosis for that is peripheral nerve disease. I knew something else was going to pop up because I had developed dark circles around my eyes.

    As far as my diet goes I do eat lots of fruits and veggies. I do drink diet drinks, but not a lot, mostly water. I have done a stint with no meats, dairy or sugar and I can say that it did improve the food allergies and hypoglycemia but all the other issues were still there. My goal was to shrink fibroids, and it did a little…but I sort of fell off the wagon with that diet. I do go out of my way daily to eat lots of superfoods. And btw, I’m 43, not overweight and whenever the energy comes I do exercise. Some of the supplements I take are mega

    Yesterday when I posted I was feeling awful and a bit skeptical. I do believe that it is killing pathogens, but I worry that it may be harming me in other ways. I read so many forums and mostly find people feeling bad on the stuff and very little reports of people saying it has benefited them at all (apart from sites selling it, and many of those sites all use the same testimonials!). I read on http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org (which is the site my doctor referred me to) that people see a benefit in 2 to 3 weeks. So far I’m only feeling worse and I’m on my 5th week. Where are all these people that it has helped? If it does indeed end up doing great things for me I will sing it’s praises from the rooftops and you will see me on youtube promoting it. If it doesn’t work I’m already lined up to be put on Oxidative Stress Relief. Another “amazing” product! I feel like a guinea pig! I appreciate your replies and forgive me if I sound cynical. It’s just that I’ve tried so many things and wasted so much money in the past.

    Regards,
    Chelsey

  493. Thanks for the info, Adam.

    About a year ago, I began educating myself on the acid-alkaline issue. Read a bunch of books and website articles (especially Sang Whang), tested my pH (~5.5), and changed my diet which I had considered healthy, but too acid (characterized by 2 eggs, bacon, potatoes and toast with jam and butter, coffee daily). I also began taking pH drops from Sang Whang to boost the pH of the water I injest. After 9 months my pH is 7-7.5, my loose teeth (bad gum disease) have tightened, I lost 25 pounds (never really overweight a lot), and am feeling great (never really felt bad).

    I have been aggressively researching health and disease cures for about 18 years. The acid-alkaline way of looking at health made it all come together and resolved the many dichotomies in the knowledge I had gained. A month ago, I came across MMS and read Humble’s book. To say the least, I am impressed.

    One more question. Are you saying that all diseased body tissues are acidic and healthy tissues are alkaline????? Please just a yes or no or not sure if “all”.

    Seems like the biochemists and labs that analyze biopsied tissue would know definitively the answer to that question.

    Thanks again for your responses and best wishes for a very Happy and Prosperous New Year.

    Ben

    1. Greetings again Ben,

      I’m sure you’re right. I’m not a biochemist, but I understand this much about human physiology as it relates to acidity/alkalinity: Certain regions of the body, such as the mouth, digestive tract, and skin (epidermis), are acidic by design. But overall, the body is alkaline by design, as evidenced by the definition of homeostasis. So the word “all” would not apply with respect to diseased body tissues.

      However, when normally alkaline tissue doesn’t have enough oxygen (i.e., negative ions, free electrons, energy), it becomes diseased as cells die off, just like we will when we don’t get enough oxygen. The fundamental problem that we face when the body chemistry gets out of balance (and low on oxygen in certain areas), is the over abundance of organisms that congregate in those areas, which don’t require oxygen (since the normally oxygen-rich environment is depleted), and in turn produce acidic waste by-products. Chlorine dioxide, as delivered through the MMS protocol, reduces that microbial and antigen overgrowth through oxidation. It’s also important to introduce the various vitamin, mineral, enzyme, bacterial, and amino acids, the depletion of which brought on the overgrowth in the first place.

      Thank you for the well wishes, which I likewise send to you.

      Adam…

  494. Adam,

    I am new to MMS and am wondering. How do you know that all diseased body tissues are acidic and other tissues are not and thus ClO2 won’t react with them?

    I am not a skeptic, but I am curious. I am greatly impressed by the effort you put forth on this blog to help others. You must be a saint.

    Best regards, Ben

    1. Hi Ben,

      No saint here, but thank you for the thought. My sphere of contacts didn’t begin and end with Jim Humble. He brought chlorine dioxide to our attention and developed a workable delivery method for it to do its thing inside the human body. But there was quite a bit of data available to corroborate his assessment of how the chlorine dioxide molecule behaves.

      The medical term for a body that is in balance is homeostasis. That is when the immune system is at its peak, and there is sufficient oxygen (ions, energy) flowing through the system. A body that is in homeostasis is slightly alkaline (7.2 – 7.4 pH). Certain bacteria, parasites, fungi, and yeast, are all in the acidic range of the pH scale. Yet, healthy human tissue will be alkaline. Dr. Otto Heinrich Warburg was awarded a Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1931 for demonstrating the relationship between the presence (or absence) of oxygen, and the growth or recession of cancer cells (tumors).

      “Cancer, above all other diseases, has countless secondary causes. But, even for cancer, there is only one prime cause. Summarized in a few words, the prime cause of cancer is the replacement of the respiration of oxygen in normal body cells by a fermentation of sugar.” — Otto Warburg

      So there is quite a bit of information available from many sources that explain the chemistry of chlorine dioxide that is derived from MMS, including my documentary, which is available at: http://www.understanding-mms.com.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  495. Clint

    Chelsey:

    Question: . . . have you been drinking MORE water since you started the MMS protocol ? By more water, I mean 6 (12oz.) glasses of water from 8am – 6pm.

    Reason: since the MMS is now destroying pathogens in your system, it needs a method to be transported out….if not….your in trouble by more discomfort.

    What is your diet like…have you given up all Dairy foods ? All soft drinks ? Sugared foods ?

    Please…if you would, give us a complete description of what else you’ve done to get well, besides just taking MMS.

    (if you care to)

    Clint

  496. Chelsey

    I’ve been using DMSO, MMS and MSM topically. I rub it on over a four hour span once a week as my doctor instructed. I also drink bentonite clay each morning. So far I have nothing good to report, just the opposite. Stomach bloating is worse, my teeth have become sensitive to temperature and even sounds like when I hear dishes rub together. On the mornings after I do a treatment I wake up with my bladder and kidney area aching. I have been more tired than what my typical chronic fatigue feels like and with added stiffness,achey feelings and just feeling cranky all the time. Today I’m worried that I’ve been doing myself more harm than good.

    1. Chelsey, it seems as though you’re breaking down more toxins than your body is eliminating. You’re too successful at one thing, but as Clint is pointing out, you need to make sure that you are drinking enough water. You’re taking some great stuff, but you may need to cut back until you’ve done more hydrating.

      If you haven’t already done it, you should also consider doing an intestinal cleanse, which would clean up the lining of the entire length of the colon. Please refer to the reference to Oxy-Powder at the end of the article.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  497. Clare

    Hi Adam
    Firstly a very happy and prosperous New Year to you and all who use this wonderful site. I have been searching for a reason for my tiredness and as suggested by you “a blockage somewhere in my major organ/s” was correct. An ultrasound showed a “fatty liver”. I dont drink so its life style for sure. Will MMS help or do I need the traditional liver herbs and/or DSMO? any advice would be very appreciated. Best wishes to all, and the best Christmas present the Universe could give me was Obama as your new President. Congratulations.It will have a very positive effect here in Australia!!

    1. A Fair Dinkum Day to you Clare!

      I’d start by drinking more water… don’t know what your normal intake levels are, but it can’t hurt to increase it. DMSO may work well on its own to dissolve any stones that could be clogging the liver (and anywhere else in the body). If it’s a parasite, the MMS would help. Please consider putting yourself in a quiet state, and asking your body what does it need, and be willing to trust the answer that you receive.

      Thank’s again for the positive thoughts and wishes. Let us know how you’re doing.

      Warmest regards and Happy New Year!

      Adam…

  498. Jeanne

    Adam,
    I am on 25 drops in a day, some days less. Thanks for your advice and time, I do believe if I can find the right treatment I can heal and get back to life. Jim did get in touch with me and I’m going to try some aztec clay along with MMS. He says fungus may be the part of the problem. I will also check into DMSO. It is a relief to find this site, and get your suggestions, and help. Thanks, again.

    Mel, thanks for the name of that lab. I couldn’t believe you knew about it. I had no luck with hospital labs, and it was months before a natural doc found Metametrix. It did identify parasites, and near zero good bacteria. The lab did not send what medicine to use on the parasites, but the ones the doctors had me use did not have success; I still tested positive. Your help is very appreciated.

    Jeanne.

    1. Hi Jeanne,

      I am confident you’ll find the right combination needed to bring things back into balance. Remember, that’s all that you need to do… be in balance, and bring your body back in resonance with you.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  499. Mel

    Hi Jeanne
    Sorry you aren’t doing so good. There is a lab that I have used that can isolate what parasite and other bacteria you have. It also would tell you what would specifically kill it from herbal to pharm. It tests for DNA particles left by the bugs. Supposed to be 99% reliable. It showed specific bacteria I carried that where antagonisitc. It showed a friends parasite she caught from Mexico. It’s called metametrix.com It might help in at least the diagnostic part. Good luck to you.

    Blessings Mel

  500. Jeanne

    Hi, I am 31 and have been extremely ill for the last year; my weight dropped dangerously low and the many doctors I’ve seen have been baffled. I have much internal inflamation, bad liver tests, and a parasite their medicine won’t get rid of. The illness started after a trip to Mexico. I test negative for their diseases they put a name on, and so they just send me home.
    Up until this I have lived a very active and healthy life, and now have had to look at writing a will. I have tried many natural doctors & herbs with no help.
    I have been on MMS for three months, and am wondering if I need to do the 15 & 15 drop dose (if it is the parasites that are killing me, the doctors do not know what the cause is) or just keep working slowly. I am at around 8,4,7,6 drops in a day. Any doctors, getting in touch with jim, or advise would be greatly appreiciated. Thank you.

    1. Jeanne, when you say you’re on 8,4,7,6 drops a day, are you saying 25 total drops a day? or that the drops that you take vary by that much from day-to-day? I can forward your question on to Jim Humble, though in the meantime, knowing that chlorine dioxide will oxidize the cell wall of any parasite, I’d gradually increase the individual drops as you’re doing, and also consider activating the MMS and then adding to a small amount of DMSO (3/4 tsp.) and applying that topically. The DMSO will deliver the chlorine dioxide molecule throughout the body.

  501. denni

    I have a silver cap over my second bottum molar and I would like to know if that will decrease the effects of MMS

    1. Hi Denni,

      No, a silver cap on your molar won’t decrease the effect of chlorine dioxide that is generated from MMS. Mega doses of vitamin C would, but not that.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  502. blindman

    Adam,

    I appreciate your efforts regarding this website and blog. I believe that the body heals itself, and our attitude and belief level are strong indicators of how well we will recover.

    Just about five years ago I had arthritis so bad I had to sit for a while when I got out of bed; I had to get prescription glasses; I had grand mal seizures from time to time; and my legs were breaking out with brown spots.

    Using a change in my diet, attracted the information I needed, and began to cry out to the Creator for help; also, using gratitude and visualization; I recovered from all the above.

    Then, I found out about MMS. For me and the people around, it has turned out to be a Godsend. I helps me to see how well I am and provides a method to gauge my health.

    Anyway, I digress. Your site is informative, and I find my self there daily.

    Keep it up.

    Blindman

    1. Blindman, your insight is always welcome. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and helping others find their way.

      Best wishes,

      Adam…

  503. blindman

    Pete,

    I heard about MMS from my Chiropractor, and we have used it with great success on the flu. Works everytime.

    My Chiropractor has several patients with Candida, and on girl has rid herself of it with several doses of six drops twice a day. Within two days the Candida symptoms disappeared.

    I hope this helps.

    Blindman

  504. Pete Fordham

    Hi Adam,

    Great work you guys are doing. Please could you give me some feedback on Candida and yeast infection whilst taking the mms. In your opinion is it enough to clear it on its own.

    Regards

    Pete

    1. Hi Pete,

      Your body has the final say on what will bring it into balance. MMS will certainly help. How, to what extent, and how quickly can only be determined by embarking on the journey. Is MMS enough to clear the candida and yeast infection on its own? That’s another question that no one but your body knows. Will chlorine dioxide act on candida and the yeast infection? You bet! Happy holidays and best wishes.

      Adam…

  505. ROBERT G. SCHULZ

    Can you tell me where I can purchase
    Chlorine Dioxide Toothpaste? Has anybody tried it?
    My third Request– Recipe for Cilantro Pesto.. I Emailed Carol (see Nov 16 – 2007) but no responce.
    tdschulz@aol.com

    1. Robert,

      You can get the chlorine dioxide toothpaste at Frontier Pharmaceuticals. http://www.frontierpharm.com or http://tinyurl.com/65zl94

      I’m sorry for the silence on the cilantro, but I have only a vague recollection of what it’s about, and who promoted it. I don’t recall talking to anyone about it, although I have heard about it somewhere.

      I did a search on cilantro pesto, and came up with this link regarding removing heavy metals, which is probably why you’ve been inquiring here.

      http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html

      I hope this works for you. If so, let us know!

      Regards,

      Adam…

  506. ROBERT G. SCHULZ

    I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE INFO YOU HAVE GIVEN ON MMS, AND COPIED ALL 232 PAGES, SO I CAN RE-READ AND LET IT SINK IN!

    PLEASE SEND ME THE RECIPE FOR CILANTRO PESTRO.
    THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP!

  507. Mel

    Teresa

    Where you able to get to 30 drops a day in three weeks. I have been upping it so slow for 5 months now and am just at 25 drops then have to drop back. Did you just do it and suffer and get over it fast or was it just not bad for you? I’m glad to hear your machine is showing possitives. I wish I could see that on myself just for verification. Take care and thanks for sharing!

    Mel

  508. I do quantum biofeedback and simply amazed at what I am seeing the MMS do with my clients and my machine simply reads their life force so I am watching before my eyes…simply put miracles.

    I myself had chronic fatigue virus and in 3 weeks it is gone!

    I am so excited to share this stuff…it is simple and cheap 🙂

    1. Great to hear Teresa! Perhaps you’d like to share some time on my radio show.

      Regards,

      Adam…

  509. Paul

    Thanks Adam,

    I had to drop my MMS dose of 10 drops as I felt a little more ill than is “convienent”. Wish I worked for someone in this filed for a living as they might understand. So I think the Bentonite is the way ahead for me then.

    Just so you know I went down to 6 and am keeping tabs for a day or two before going to 7. In other words not giving up.

  510. Paul

    Quick question. Does Bentonite Clay helps with Nausea or just Diahoerea?

    1. Hi Paul,

      Calcium bentonite clay will tend to soothe in any way the body needs. Because it absorbs and “adsorbs”, the toxins that might otherwise be let loose in the body would be taken up in the clay, thereby reducing both the urge to vomit and firming up one’s stools.

  511. Clint

    Robert:

    I use this kind… it is recommended by a few doctors here in Houston:

    http://www.illnessisoptional.com/ace/product.asp?ProdID=15899&CtgID=&gclid=CN6A5u3KoJcCFQIMswodnRbA-w

    Info about iodine can be read here:

    http://www.quackcenter.com/iodoralresults.html

    Hope this helps,

    Clint

  512. ROBERT G. SCHULZ

    WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND ME THE RECIPE FOR CILANTRO PESTO.
    THANKYOU! tdschulz@aol.com

    What Iodine do you recommend for hypo-thryoidism?

  513. Marc

    I must say that I am a sceptic – but after two rounds of chemotherepy for testicular cancer, and a third coming, I am willing to give MMS a go. Apart from the typical protocol that is advised, has anyone had any experience like mine and are willing to enlighten me?

  514. Marc

    I must say that I am a sceptic – but after two rounds of chemotherepy for testicualr cancer, I am willing to give MMS a go. Apart from the typical protocol that is advised, has anyone had any experience lik mine and are willing to enlighten me?

  515. Paul

    Hi,
    Noticed my abcess began to come back a little. This could simply just be a process of eliminating toxins being released by the MMS entering my gums and jaw in a cycle. But I dont know. Did notice shortly after my abcess shrank certain areas below my teeth began to hurt a little but nothing as bad as my other encounters. Also today a second lump has appeared just behind the far left lower wisdom tooth.

    I decided today to quit brushing an begin drinking the MMS in standard protocol but just bring the doses up at a more steady rate. I considered dong both the MMS doses and my regular brushing 3 times daily but thought this may be like overdosing. Again I would not like to overdo the MMS and have serious pains in that area. Perhaps that is an inaccurate assmesment however and I am sure people here may be able to set me straight. ut for now I will play it safe.

    Also for the first time evcer in my life I have developed chillblanes. I wonder if this is related to the abcess and pains in my mouth. Should I drink the DMSO with the MMS?

    Namaste

    Paul

  516. Paul

    Hey KS,

    I got my DMSO from a US company online to my home in the UK. It took 2 weeks to arrive but I guess it at least came. Besides I did order all the way from a US company to my home in the UK. So it may be quicker if you use them.

    Its from this site http://www.kornax.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=KE&Category_Code=DMO
    . I found it while looking for decent quality strength. Its 99.99% Pretty good.

  517. KS

    I have been reading all these blogs trying to gain some more insight into MMS. I have been on this now for several weeks. I have gotten sick with colds and more things than I can remember in the last several years. I believe very much that disease does in fact start with outside invaders. I do have a question for anyone that knows, and it not guessing. It was also asked by someone else and not addresssed. Unfotunately right now I am taking PX meds. (Hopefully not forever) it is an anitseizer med called lamictal. If anyone knows their meds, they know this is a strong drug. I know even with certain herbs you need to be careful in mixing. My question is doe anyone have any info on mms with anti seizer meds and ssri drugs? Are the interactions ok for them? I would appreciate any input on this. I am a currently back down to 12 drops twice daily.
    THX KS

  518. kirk

    Where did you get your dmso? I ordered from vitacost and after taking 3 weeks of no delivery, they refunded me.

  519. Paul

    Karen,

    My thanks also. I think many of the adverse reactions some of us have had is down to taking doses far too high too fast. In know in my mind the goal was to get to the 15 drops 3x a week as fast as possible. It only recently occured to me I could do it one drop increase a week or even month.

    I know exactly what you mean about feeling it working through your body. I am still brushing with 10 drop and 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO 3 daily and can feel it working under my gum line. I beleive the Abcess has gone now and it hasnt even been 2 weeks yet. Ill continue for a little while longer to be sure.

    Also I can feel it working in the back of my mouth and up my nose. Around that thin membrane at the top. I can also since yesterday smell a yeasty smell up my nose. Thats just how effective it is. And I know I felt an odd sensation there shortly after drinking MMS orally. My guess it is fungus being worked on in that area.

    Namaste

    Paul

  520. Clint

    GREAT post Karen, thanks for sharing your knowledge….

    Was curious what brand of Clay you use, and where you order it from…..

    thanks

    Clint

  521. Karen

    Hi all you self-healers out there!

    I’ve been out of the loop for awhile, but with all of you in spirit. I enjoy this site for sharing — it’s an incredible gift.

    Well, I am still going with the MMS program in that s-l-o-o-w fashion. Been on it for 3 months now, and have learned so much from my experience. I am now on 8 drops before bed and 5-6 drops in the morning. I would love to shift to take my second doseage midmorning or midafternoon, but it seems too risky to take it and not consume any food for about an hour, cause I’m busy working and all, and not as mindful.

    I also have added another regiment to my MMS, which is consuming one tsp of Terramin clay in a cup of H2O first thing in the AM. I find that it helps in providing the toxins a way out of the body through the ionic action. I have a little more sensitive stomach with my morning dosage, so I keep that lower than the evening one.

    Also, if I ever get that diarrhea or upset stomach from the MMS, I immediately do the Terramin, one tsp in a glass of water, and another if the first doesn’t do the trick. I find it works almost immediately, if not within a few hours. These two products seem to be quite compatible in my body. Note that every person’s reaction is different — some people get the same detoxing symptoms of diarrhea just from taking Terramin clay if their body is super toxic. So try it and see — for sure the Terramin doesn’t have any other side effects other than getting the bad stuff out of you and feeding your body important minerals.

    I’m puzzled by people saying there is a smell to MMS, I don’t smell anything. I like to watch the drops disperse in the water and react with the citric acid, and then the juice.

    Anyhow, at my 8 drops, I feel great! No more symptoms of herpes, still working on the candida.

    Oh, and one more thing, I found out that one of the reasons I reacted so strongly to MMS in the beginning was I was taking other pH balancing products, like Kangen water and these other drops — it could very well be that I was actually too alkaline, or possibly that my body didn’t like changing over to alkaline too fast. I stoppped those other products and my body was much happier.

    Even though I only do a very slow increase in drops gradually over time, I find I can actually feel its effects in my body. I feel the MMS moving through my body after I take it, like an activation process. I feel like it is oxygenating my blood and my cells, although I have not had it validated through dark field microscopy yet (I will soon).

    Each time I increase my doseage by a drop, I try to give my body time to adjust to it in a positive way, rather than waiting for the diarrhea to tell me I’m going too fast. When I feel totally comfortable with it after 3-4 days, then I might increase it again.

    Someone was asking about allergies – I had very bad allergies and sinus problems, and did an allergy blood test through my doc and a company called Immuno 1 (www.immunolabs.com). I found out I was allergic to 24 very common foods. I went on a strict diet away from those foods and ALL my symptoms disappeared, including mucus, sinus infections, eye irritations, coughing, indigestion and nondigestion, diarrhea and constipation, skin problems, low energy, insomnia. After 2 months, I was allowed to gradually reintroduce those foods 3 new ones per week and watch for reactions.

    Will do more catching up with the rest of you soon…

    Karen

  522. Paul

    Clint,

    Yes DMSO is pretty unpleasent but I am not actually drinking it at this stage. Just adding it to the MMS 10 drop mix as Adam suggested to me earlier. I was 2 weeks back brushing with MMS in half cup of water but ran out. Besides it was taking a whle to work. Nonetheless it was working.

    This was why I was wondering if I should simply add the DMSO 3 minutes after activating the MMS and brush it oin neat or add the half cup of water.

    As to the silver it sounds like it helps break down bacteria and fungus making it easier for the MMS to do its work. And therefore do not require being taken apart from each other provided they are taken away from food and antioxidents.

    Please correct me if I am wrong. And thanks for the info. Its very easy to get lost when being a DIY healer.

    Regards
    Paul

  523. Clint

    Paul:

    Am npt sure if I can answer your question…but here is what I know….

    MSM (not MMS) is the dried for on DMSO. The MSM is a powder, and have been taking it for years, in water, with meals. The MSM helps to clear detoxification pathways ands absorb supplements at a deeper cellular level.

    So, you might as well start taking the MSM (Powder) and NOT the liquid DMSO, and that might help your situation.

    Also, the Silver AND the MMS (like you were asking) need to be taken a few hours away from food…so as not to interfere with it’s own work.

    I have never known anyone to DRINK DMSO….. which is one of the reasons why MSM in dry, powdered form was created.

    Hope this helps,

    Clint

  524. Paul

    Clint

    I see do you mean to suggest taking this on its own or away from MMS and food?

    I jut brushed today with the neat MMS 10 drop activated and 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO. It does taste horrible. But I can deal.

    Thing is I got to thinking if the brushing was necessarry. Perhaps I could down an amount of DMSO on an empty stomach (How much I would not know where to begin) and use the MMS in standard protocol and see if that helps the clear the blockages.

    That being the case I wonder if the Silver would further that cuase?

    Paul
    Namaste

  525. Clint

    Paul:

    I’d strongly suggest trying the Silver Water…in particular the Molecula Silver (smaller particles)

    http://www.clo2plus.com/

    Having the MMS AND the Silver in your system will surely speed up your healing time.

    Clint

  526. Paul

    Thank you Clint,

    As I say this is just to get past any blocks in my system that cause pain and discomfort. Mainly my mouth, gums, jaw and face. But also my nose.

    Im beginning to think it could be down to funguc around these areas but who knows. I figure if I brush my teeth with MMS and DMSO 3 times daily it should help with my mouth. Its just to get past this phase so I can drink it internally is all. That being so Ill see if I can clear the abcess and take it from there. Perhaps some variation of the method could simply be used in my face and nose. But Ill not get ahead of myself.

    Ill let you know how it goes. Ill try it neat first also.

  527. Clint

    Paul:

    Here is a post that Jim Humble posted on his website regarding the use of MMS topically.

    I believe he said to use water in the solution IF your skin is sensitive to the MMS topically, but I invite you to read on:

    🙂

    Clint
    ==================

    This protocol has been used enough times to convince us that it is the most successful so far for life threatening diseases. Normal flu and colds do not need to be this intense.

    The protocol uses two different techniques to get the chlorine dioxide into the body. The first technique is what we first called Clara’s 6 and 6 protocol. That was where we gave a person 6 drops of MMS with the activation and then waited one hour and then gave another six drops. Many amazing things happened when using this six and six. However the thing that developed from the concept was to use the 6 and 6 three times in a day. In the morning, at noon and in the evening before retiring. When using the 6 and 6 three times a day in conjunction with the “Overnight Cancer Cure” protocol first suggested by R. Webster Kehr there is a tremendous improvement of results that are not obtained by using either protocol by itself. When Kehr first suggest this new Overnight Cancer Cure (OCC for short) there had been no actual treatment of actual cancer cases.

    However, I began using basic technique with cancer patients and patients with other life threatening diseases. The results were in many cases quit amazing as I was mostly suggesting the use of both techniques together. Cancers dried up and tumors simply began falling apart, and other problems began to drop away.

    You probably know we don’t have any millions of dollars or even thousands of dollars for reseach, but many people do call me, and I do suggest things to do, and some call back to say how they are doing. I base my conclusions on those who call back or those who come by my house in Mexico.

    One cannot begin to use the 6 and 6 technique with persons that are very sick. They must be treat very carefully. We usually start new cancer patients that are very sick on 1 drops doses. So we use 1 and 1. That is we do a single drop dose and then wait an hour and then do the second drop dose. We do this in the morning, at noon and at night. That makes for 6 drops during a day for a very sick person. Some people might start at 2 and 2. Again that would be 2 drops and wait an hour and then two more drops. Again this would be done in the morning, at noon, and then in the evening before bed. OF COURSE, WHEN I SAY 2 DROPS OR 5 DROPS OF MMS OR ANY OTHER NUMBER I ALWAYS MEAN THAT 5 DROPS OF CITRIC ACID SOLUTION OF LEMON JUICE IS USED WITH EACH DROP OF MMS. ONE THEN WAITS 3 MINUTES BEFORE ADDING JUICE OR WATER TO THE DOSE. ALWAYS, 5 DROPS OF CITRIC SOLUTION OR LEMON JUICE IS ALWAYS ADDED TO EACH DROP OF MMS.

    Depending upon how sick the person is determines the number of drops to use in the starting doses. A person who is running around OK could be started at 6 and 6 drops doses. However, no matter how many drops one starts with, if he does not notice any nausea the next day he should increase the number of drops by plus one. If he started with 6 and 6 then the next day he would go to 7 and 7 three times during that day, and the day after it would be 8 and 8. Anytime one notices nausea, always drop back a drop or two for up to a day before increasing the drops again. So that is the technique for using Clara’s 6 and 6 drop doses one hour apart. They should be increased slowly, carefully one drop a day until you are at 15 and 15. It may take a while to get to this point as the cancer should be almost cured by this time. Often the patient will get nauseous and you will have to drop back.

    THE BASIC PRINCIPLE FOR ALL LIFE THREATENING DISEASES IS ALWAYS GIVE THE PERSON AS MUCH MMS AS HE CAN STAND WITHOUT GETTING VERY NAUSEOUS, OR GETTING DIARRHEA. THAT MEANS OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY, NOT JUST ONE BIG DOSE, BUT MANY DOSES OVER THE DAY, USUALLY AS I HAVE DESCRIBED ABOVE. SUCCESS IS DETERMINED BY THE FACT THAT YOU KEEP INCREASING THE DOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WHEN NAUSEA SHOWS UP, BACK OFF WITH LESS DROPS. QUITE OFTEN, THE PERSON WILL REACH A POINT WHERE HE WILL REACT WITH A LOT OF DIARRHEA OF NAUSEA. STOP IMMEDIATELY WAIT UNTIL THE NAUSEA OR DIARRHEA IS GONE, THEN START AGAIN WITH LESS DROPS PER DOSE, SOMETIMES LESS THAN 1/2 OF WHAT HE WAS TAKING. ALL DOSES SHOULD BE THE SAME, SO IF YOU REDUCE TO, FOR EXAMPLE 9 DROPS ACTIVATED MMS, ALL DOSES SHOULD BE 9 DROPS OF MMS BEING TWICE 1 HOUR APART THREE TIMES A DAY. (THAT’S A TOTAL OF 6 NINE DROP DOSES). REMEMBER, ALWAYS AS MUCH AS HE CAN STAND WITHOUT GETTING NAUSEOUS OR DIARRHEA.

    Now for the second technique. This is a variation of the technique suggested by R. Webster Kehr. Kehr has suggested several techniques however the technique that I suggest here I and my Mexican partner have been suggesting to people for several months. I work with people on the Internet and she and I together with people here in Mexico. With the two techniques given here together the results are much better than either one alone.

    IN ALL CASES ALWAYS CHECK BY USING A TINY AMOUNT OF THE SOLUTION ON A SMALL AREA, WAIT SEVERAL MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO SEE THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE A REACTION.

    The second technique we call “MMS by Skin,” since one is using DMSO to cause the MMS to enter the body through the skin. Kehr calls it something else, but since I am using it differntly I’ll give it another name. In this technique all doses are 10 drops of MMS, 50 drops of 10% citric acid solution, or lemon juice, wait 3 minutes, and then add one teaspoon of DMSO. One stirs the DMSO in carefully and then begins to use the solution right away by rubbing the entire amount into one arm or leg or belly or even his back if someone is helping him. On the first day one uses this technique once every two hours all day long. So one uses a 10 drop dose every 2 hours rubbing it first into one arm, then two hours later the other arm and then two hours later one of the legs is used, then of course the other, finally the stomach and then back to one of the arms.

    One the second day, instead of every two hours one does it every hour all day long for up to 12 hours. The the same thing is done on the 3rd day. One then discontinues, rests for 4 days and then does it again the next week. Do it once a week until well. So one is doing the MMS by mouth as given above and the MMS by skin as given here both at the same time.

    This technique is OK for pregnant women, or children, but remember, children are much more delicate. In the case of children or women add one drop of water for each drop of DMSO. When beginning to use the solution one very gently rubs a small amount onto the child in an area about the size of a quarter to see if their will be an adverse reaction or if the DMSO will burn the skin. With children use one drop of MMS for each 20 pounds of body weight. Use 8 drops of DMSO for each drop of MMS. Measure it all out before you add the citric acid solution, but do not add it until the citric is mixed in and one waits three minutes.

    Those few people who notice that their skin seems to burn from the MMS and DMSO can used something like 50-50 mixture of Aleo Vera gell and olive oil. If the skin does burn, the next time add one teaspoon of water with the one teaspoon of DMSO.

    Remember, use both methods given above at the same time.

    THE CITRIC ACID SOLUTION IS ALWAYS A 10% SOLUTION. IT IS EASY TO MAKE. JUST USE 9 TABLE SPOONS OF WATER TO ONE TABLE SPOON FULL OF CITRIC ACID CRYSTALS.

  528. Paul

    Adam,

    Once again I seem to be pressing you for info and for that I applogise. However, I was just about to ue the MMS by activating 10 drops, waiting 3 minutes and then adding the DMSO to brush yesterday. But then I had a thought. Do I add water to that sololoution or just brush it topically neat?

    I know it may seema silly question but on reflection either way seemed plausible to me.

    Namaste
    Paul

  529. Mel

    Paul. I have been doing this since August and started with 1/2 drop. The highest I’ve been to is 14 drops once a day. After the Herx I went down to 7. Now I’m at 10 at night and 2 in the morning and upping it this weekend, then stabalize through the week upping it again on the weekend. My goal is to be at 15 twice a day by the end of the year, feeling as good as I do now i think it is doable. I think I will order the dmso after I’ve been doing the Mag for a while just to make sure I know what is doing what. I LOVE seeing progress even slowly it’s so amazing what we can do naturally. visualizing yourself whole and completely healthy in all areas is very helpful to me as well. I also use a method called EFT (a cousin to acuupuncture but self applies with tapping on the points) and it has helped me with everything from stomach ache, knee pain and headache as well as emotions. it might help with your teeth pain. Take care

    Mel

  530. Paul

    Mel,

    I hear what your saying about keeping the MMS to tolerable limits. I will use it again myself when I get rid of the abcess. But wonder if I should just stay at lower doses say 10ish or thereabouts 2x daily and perhaps push up one drop per week to see if things get too much.

    Alot of people have told e that even if you use MMS just a couple drops a day it will slowly work. Just take a while. That being said Im going to see what happenes when mixing DMSO and MMS internally later.

    Jenne,
    On Jim Humbles site he mention in the questions and answers about mixing it. But he mentions a few different protocols for mixing it. In some he suggests adding it in drops equal to the amount of citirc acid. And in another he says to work up to 2 tablespoons. So hard to say.

    Here is the page on DMSO and MMS

    http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=196

  531. Mel,

    Great to hear your progress! Thank you for sharing. Keep it up!

    Regards,

    Adam…

  532. Paul,

    Calcium bentonite clay, if mixed in a 1:9 ratio and drank, should indeed mitigate the possibility of diarrhea. The clay is highly absorbent, and is also a selective detoxifier, like MMS. It does not oxidize like MMS. It simply “attracts” pathogens, which are either absorbed into it, or “adsorbed” (stuck) and then escorted out the system through the colon.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  533. Jenne,

    I believe that applying MMS infused DMSO directly to your husband’s chest would indeed be helpful. Both of these compounds are beneficial in the amounts we’re talking about. The DMSO will help penetration, and the MMS will oxidize pathogens.

    Should be a great combination. You’ll have to experiment with concentrations, but I’d start the same way you normally do with MMS; one drop and then move up from there. If you already have a level of dosage that you know you can take orally, I’d still cut that in half as a beginning point for transdermal application. It’s a suggestion. Your experience will ultimately guide you.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  534. R

    I’m wondering what’s up with Howie.

  535. Mel

    Paul,

    Thanks for your post. I will keep an eye out for staying at smaller amounts. The mms is doing great for me now and I’m hoping just spraying the mag on 8-10 suirts a day will be okay . I’m on day two and still feel good so I’ll stick to that as I will be upping the mms again this weekend starting tomorrow. The mms has worked way better than all the herbal supps I’ve taken over the last 5 years and is comparable to doing the green raw wheatgrass diet in detox but this is WAYYYYY easier and not quite as painful (maybe because I’m chicken and going slow as a snail) I still eat very well but just not all raw. anyway good luck and take care

    Mel

  536. Paul

    Mel,

    Im no practitioner or anything but I will say from my own experiances Magnesium Chloride Oil is something I swear by.

    I had alot of itching skin which stopped right after using it. However be mindful of how often you use it. It was Magnesium Chloride Oil baths daily that gave me the cleasning crisis I spoke of in my first post here.

    But all in all great stuff.

    Namaste

  537. jenne

    Hi, both my husband and myself are taking MMS. I am on 5 drops a day and he is on 10. He has emphysema and is hoping the MMS will help. We also take Magnesium transdermally and had been taking MSM aling with Vit C powder, but stopped while on the MMS. Will now take MSM on it’s own. I have noticed that my husband’s breathing is far less laboured while asleep. He still gets very breathless during the day, but his appetite has increased and he does not complain of feeling the cold as much, Would using MMS along with DMSO transdermally on his chest help his lungs? Have found everyone’s comments very helpful.

  538. Zahealer Raphael

    Hi there, I’d being following all the interesting stories on MMS and I’d like to do a further reading if a kind hearted person can email Jim’s book to me as I’ve tried to download it in the last one month without success.

    Thanks for your help.

  539. Mel

    Major D yesterday and then felt great. My kidneys don’t ache at all today and I’m up higher on my dose again. Yaayyyy. I’ve noticed my knee I had surgery on is not achy at all lately even when I run so that is a great thing.

    I just got the magnesium oil today and was wondering if anyone knew how far away to use it from the mms.
    I heard of a gal here in town that was recommended by her naturopath to use it for a skin condidtion and she LOVES it. Her skin is doing great in a very short period of time. All for now and good luck in your journeys to health,

    Mel

  540. Paul

    Oh I forgot will taking any form of the Betonite Clay help with any diahorea as I just begun a new job and do not wish to be disrupted too much? My thanks in advance for any info on this and the DMSO question?

    Namaste
    Paul

  541. Paul

    Well interestingly enough I ran out of MMS while waiting for a new supply and the DMSO is STILL not here yet.

    Been about 3 days since I stopped brushing 4 times daily with 10 activated drops in water and the abcess is now creeing back. I wonder how long it takes to get rid of one completely. Not worried though. I read in an MMS forums that combined with the DMSO it will be gone by two weeks.

    But back on he DMSO question I think reading here others are wondering what the best way is for a protocol for ingesting MMS with DMSO? I plan to do this once my abcess has cleared.

  542. Ang Wee Kiong

    Dear all,

    I don’t knowmif I have any obvious health condition but I have been taking MMS for the past fortnight.

    In the beginning, I experienced nausea and loose bowel but I am ok now and am feeling energised.

    Those living in Malaysia or around here can contact me for supply of MMS.
    ahealthcure@gmail.com

  543. Mel

    Hi all. Good News!
    I have just talked to my friend who has a form of inflamed infected exema. She was on internal and external steroids as well as antibiotics which cleared it up but as soon as she stopped it started to come back. As she doesn’t want to be on steroids for the rest of her life she decided to try the mms. She started with 2 drops and increased too 15 drops twice a day in 8 days! YIKES at day 3 of this dose she got the runs and started vomiting for about 3 hours. She then took a large dose of vit C and Vomitting stopped. She knew this was probably a Herx. She never did finish doing the 1 week at 2x day but her exema is so much better and if it gets a little bad she will take a 5-7 drop dose once and the next day it is down to nothing.
    I have my teen on it for warts and acne. Only at 7 drops once a day but his acne is all but gone. I think the warts are going to need the higher dose no side effects with him.
    My acne is still gone and I have a weird growth thing (had it checked out and not worrysome) and it is shrinking. also less mucous in my system YAYYY.
    I was at 14 drops once a day but my back ached, not super strong but enough it worried me so I cut back to 7 drops and it felt fine went to 8 drops and it started again. I can totally see the benefits from this but it worrys me with the back ache thing. I’ve read a post somewhere that you should get your liver monitored while taking this so that kinda freaked me a bit. Don’t want kidney or liver damage but never read anywhere that anyone posted actual damage done. Any thoughts on this back thing?
    I’ve ordered the Liquid Magnesium Chloride so I will let you know how that goes with all of this and am thinking about DMSO as well. Thanks for any feedback. I just can’t figure out if I should just stay at lower doses or just push through to the higher- no nausea or loose stool. Oh my main thing I’m working on is digestion/dysbiosis have been on mms for 3 months now.

    Thanks all
    Mel

  544. bsk120100

    I have recently begun using MMS for general health, and have seen some improvements in digestion and a feeling of well-being. I am hoping to see some positive improvements with sinus/allergy related problems, as they tend to be rampant where I live. I ordered my supplies from http://www.ordermms.com and have found that I do not mind the taste of the solution with the distilled water. The smell is a different story, but I’ve gotten used to it also. If anyone has any info regarding the sinus/allergy problems, please share with me, I’m interested in hearing of others’ successes.

  545. Heather

    Hi phaelosopher,

    I have gone through all the question and comments regarding the usees of MMS, but I have also heard of using it for gential herpes virus. Would the same protocol be used also or would it be increased in some way or another??

    Kind Regards,
    Heather

  546. James,

    Thank you for your “anecdotal” account. In time we’ll all understand that all information is “anecdotal” for anyone other than ourselves.

    All the scientific studies, all the double-blind tests, only amount to methods that people use to convince themselves that they have enough information by which to permit or allow themselves to heal.

    When we realize that we are the healers of our own disease, and no one, or nothing else, then we’ll choose simpler, less drastic or painful ways to do so.

    The chlorine dioxide effectively gets at, and reduces the microorganisms that contribute to a great many ailments. It’s also sufficiently bad tasting to make it a GREAT medicine! The good thing is that it’s beneficial, effective, inexpensive, and not addicting. 🙂

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  547. Clint

    Woah ! Ok…sorry for the over reaction Adam….

    I was reaching for the Valium®….

    😉

  548. That was a pingback from a new essay I published earlier today, where I referred to this article.

  549. Clint

    Reclaiming Our Power to ‘Heal’ « Thought for Food :

    WTF ??!

  550. Paul

    Thats great to hear James. Its feedback like yours that brings hope.

    As for myself the sensitive pain in my teeth was just that. False Alarm thankfully. The MMS and possibly citric acod has made my teeth increasingly sensitive but Ill take that over an abcess.

    I monitored my abcess and its easy to start worrying yourself nothing is happening. It has shrunk and blown itself back since the second day of my regular brushing and it is showing to be quite the resillient critter but then I have not received the DMSO yet and it may take a while yet to overcome it.

    I wonder if anyone here has or knows of anyone who has used MMS as a spray or droped it into the nose to clear sinus infections. I considered this late last night but would not again know where to start for how much doseage or how much water it could be mixed with. But I suppose it would be a good strategy to stop pathogens from congreating there like Adam suggested I do with my mouth.

    But then perhaps the DMSO on its onw would mean this would not be necessarry.

  551. james parrish

    Now, personal experience.> >
    > > Summary for mother – 78 years old, no thyroid gland, blind, both main arteries to legs replaced (a few times), heart attacks, strokes, on numerous pharma. drugs, etc. Believes in health and follows my lead. > >
    > > Numbness or lack of feeling in legs for years – feeling returned within in seven days of protocol. Numbness gone and still gone (4 months).> >
    > > Blood pressure has sky-rocketed for decades – doctor reports this is almost back to normal measurement within one month of mms> >
    > > Emotions chaotic, up and down, unpredictable – I have observed a great change in emotional stability for the better. God speaks of our emotions in terms of bodily organs, for example, bowels of mercy, etc. Maybe there is a greater connection between our physcial body and our personal manifestation of the spirit of man within us?> >
    > > Dr. has reported increased blood flow and circulation.> >
    > > Her appetite has changed, mostly in that she requires less food. As pointed out in the websites I sent you, this is because, once you cleanse your body of parasites, pathogens, viruses, and the neutralization or heavy metals, etc., you require less because you are not feeding them, but are feeding yourself.> >
    > > After brushing her teeth with MMS and swishing it in her mouth, her tounge has moulted and become pink again.> >
    > > I have cleaners come into her house once weekly to clean for her. They saw her after 5 or 6 days normal mms protocol. They were flabbergassed with the difference in her apperance and energy. They asked, “what’s different about you, did you do your hair, etc”. Her energy and ability to engage was so dramatic compared to the previous weeks and months that they started to nickname her “sparky”.> >
    > > Before starting MMS my mother sought approval from her Herbolagist (who incidentally is the only one liscenced in Nova Scotia). She told my mother that her understanding (after reading what I sent you and associated material), that it was safe, would not have a negative interaction with pharmaceuticals, and would not harm or damage any healthy cells within her body. This woman last week sought access to information on MMS from myself for her own personal use and that of her patients.> >
    > > My massage therapist, after beginning to use MMS found out that persons within his extended contacts have utilized MMS with great results, such as curing MS, etc. I cannot speak for this as I have no direct knowledge.> >
    > > As for myself, I have always believed in and followed the principles of preventative medecine.
    > > When I began the MMS protocol, I did so only to assure my mother by example that it was not harmful. When I approached the peak of the healthy person protocol I started to feel the effects of the cleansing and/or healing crisis, mostly infrequent and unusual diahrhea after doses (sometimes it was like heavy dust sinking to the bottom of the bowl).> >
    > > My results. I require much less food. I sleep less. I am full of energy and generally feel great. I say this in the context of being a human being.> >
    > > I work as an electrician in construction. Over the last month everyone I work with have become sick with a long-lasting flu. I caught it and it clung to me. I could feel it, yet it never took hold, although it had and has with everyone else.> >
    > > This, of course is all anecdotal.

  552. Mel

    Michelle
    Hi. Glad it is working so well for you. My skin too is amazing now. It cleared up from a lifetime of acne at only 2 drops when even antibiotics did nothing. Also my brown spots are fading. I am going through some simialr things as you with the stomach bloating weirdness though. Has applying this transdermally helped with that? Thanks for any help.

  553. Michelle

    Hi Clint,

    I am using DMSO and MMS (not MSM) – I mix the MMS with the citric acid. I am up to six drops MMS (30 drops of citric acid); I then apply the DMSO to my skin and then after a couple of minutes rub in the liquid.

    So far my skin is fine although I did burn once before I started using DMSO.

    Michelle

  554. Mel

    Hi. I have been taking MMS now for 2.5 months and have rampted up slowly (now at 14 drops once a day). I notice when I increase too fast I get worsened symptoms (my complaints are digestive gas constipation) I also get mid back pain, a pressure like deep ache which I think may be kidneys detoxing to much. No diareah. I had this happen when I did a wheatgrass cleanse/raw food diet for several months I have constipation so I’m sure I am recycling toxins but am trying to keep clear with herbal Lax aids. I’m wondering if fungus is being killed and possible mercury is being released if this could stress my kidneys too much? Would it be good to take a clay or other supp. I just thought that with MMS I wouldn’t need that as it disintegrated those things. I am hopeful that MMS will help along with using energy therapy to release old emotions properly. I feel we remain sick until we can let go of old core emotions that hold us in a disease state. I have come far in that department but my poor body is needing some TLC still so that my mind and body can work as one again. Any suggestions are so welcome. I just don’t want to harm my kidneys or anything else so want to proceed carefully. Thankyou Adam for all you have done with this topic. You seem a very caring and compassionate man.

    Mel

  555. Paul

    Since I am still waiting for the DMSO to arrive from the US to my home in UK. I have continued as is brushing the 10 drops MMS 4 times a day.

    Its only the second day and I am already starting to feel that sensation I had the previous two times. Firt it feels like sensitive teeth but then thats when it travels to the roots and gums and causes the pain I described as it spreads to my jaw and face.

    As I say it begins as something like sensitive teeth. The abcess itself however is being affected. But I notice it is largest first thing i the morning. Dont know if this tells anymore. Sure hope the DMSO can work this out or any other tips would be appreciated. I would desire very much to get past this instead of a stop start cycle.

    Namaste
    Paul

  556. Paul

    Adam,
    Thank you so much. That is much clearer. I have DMSO on the way now so Ill use ot first off by brushing in the way you suggest. Simply exchanging the half cup of water with 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO (correct me if I am worng). This should allow it to get right to my teeth roots and jawbone all being well.

    As for ingesting a mix of DMSO and MMS I did look at Jim Humbles site but I could not make out what would be a good protocol for it. In one instance he says work up from 1 drop up to 2 tablespoons and in another I think he is saying use an equal amount of DMSO drops to the citric acid activator after 3 minutes and drink with water. Hard to tell what I should go for.

    Id like to also thank you for your prompt responses.

  557. Hey Paul,

    There are no time restrictions associated with using MMS and DMSO, beyond those already noted regarding using MMS and vitamin C.

    You’ll still get the most “bang for the buck” on an empty stomach, and if you’ve given yourself ample time after taking mega doses of vitamin C.

    I’d suggest that the DMSO likewise be taken on as empty a stomach as is practical. The DMSO concoction does NOT have to be done with orange juice. The author that I referred to wasn’t aware of MMS at the time he did this, and so that wasn’t a part of his decision making process. The juice is only a carrier for the DMSO, and can be anything. DMSO has a pungent taste, even when diluted in juice. However, it will penetrate all areas of the body, dissolve clots, and open up any places that that might have been inaccessible.

    I don’t see where taking it more than once daily will be necessary, and possibly, taking it once period may suffice. The purpose of taking it is to break up any clots that may be obstructing passage ways in the body. So it’s something that is done occasionally, or under certain situations.

    Make sure it’s 99.7% (or better) pure DMSO, which interestingly, freezes at just 68 degrees.

    One thing it will help do by opening any blocked passage ways is help remove pathogens that have been oxidized.

    On mixing DMSO and MMS, the best description of that comes from “the Overnight Cure for Cancer” article (OCC) that you can search for and find online. It involves activating 10 drops of MMS (with 50 drops activator), waiting 3 minutes, and then, instead of adding water or juice, adding 3/4 teaspoon of DMSO…. waiting 3 more minutes, then BRUSHING it on topically, allowing the chemical’s entry into the body transdermally.

    I hope this is helpful. It’s something to consider and decide what feels best for you.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  558. Greetings Claire,

    Many people with stents are using MMS. Many people who have metal in their bodies, myself included, are using MMS. My metal “appliance” is in my mouth, the result of a reconstruction of my jawbone after a tumor was discovered there 12 years ago.

    People who have other forms of hardware, including pacemakers and breast implants (or is that software?), are using it without incident.

    In fact, the number of people using MMS must now be several hundreds of thousands. This is only an educated guess, but it is quite likely that anyone who has had an adverse experience might have shared it by now.

    According to Jim Humble, chlorine dioxide is a weak oxidizer, meaning that it is not corrosive enough to attack something as densely formed as a metal object, but it plenty strong enough to oxidize the microscopic molecular emissions that these objects give off.

    Knowing what I understand now, I would be far more concerned about the medications that the doctors are giving him, and the nutritional factors that they tend to ignore, such as his pre-existing magnesium deficiency that compromised the proper functioning of his heart in the first place.

    Magnesium supplementation (along with other trace minerals) is something that you can do for him whether the doctors think it’s important or not.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  559. Phaelosopher
    Thanks a million to responding to my message so promptly i am still a little fearful in using the mms for my father who has a coronary stent, which has saved his life after 3 heart attacks, im frightened in case it might cause a breakdown of the stent leading to coronary occlusion ( heart attack ) Please dont think i have no faith in you or Mr humble as i do ( my father has already ordered mms ) but is there any one out there who has a coronary ( heart ) stent and is using mms. If my father didnt have the stent i would not hesitate.
    In jims book he does say that mms will chemically react with stainless steel
    I am desperate for any reassurance,comments, or personal experiences.
    Thankyou so much claire

  560. Paul

    Just to say I have already begun brushing my teeth 4x daily with the 10 drops of MMS activated with 50 drops of Citric acid activated for 3 minutes and added half mug of water. Straight after I decided to swish my mouth out with the soloution before disposing of it and rinsing my mout with water.

    My question to you however would be should I add any DMSO to this soloution and if so how much? And also is there a preferred time? By this I mean should it be any given amount of time away from meals or supplements?

    And back on the DMSO I am still curious about your suggestion to mix DMSO with 8oz of Oragne Juice. Again is this meant to be done on an empty stomach and was I correct in gleening it was to be done 2 hours away from MMS due to the Vit C content? Also how many times a day is this recommended for?

    And Lastly is there a recommended amount of DMSO to be added to the MMS to be taken orally is there a ratio?

    Please bear with me for pressing you but as you can see I am wasting no time undertaking my plan for this balance. Meantime I will order the DMSO right away I think. If anyone here has a recommended brand (I know we arent here to advertise its about health but still…) Id appreciate it.

    Karen, I do not know if you are still with us but that was an interesting read. I myself lean toward a vegatarian diet though I do wonder if it really is for the best. Already I am a great consumer of fish. I see it as having less of the negative effects of red meat. But it is interesting that you noted you felt vegatarians tend to be acidic. It could be down to the amount of grains and high or refined carbohydrate foods many vegatarinas eat.

    I may actually consider the Clay supplement anyway seeing as how I have suffered from bad diahoera for decades and bad gas. In fact it was one of my main symptoms I went to rid myself of when first entering “alternative Treatments” years ago. Along with the deep persistent fatigue I suffer from. And Bacteria and Fungus would dearly love a body that has become acidic.

    With that in mind my next chpater in my health may be to make my acidity levels more in balance besides using MMS.

    Namaste

    Paul

  561. Dear Claire,

    While I am knowledgeable on the subject of MMS, I don’t claim to be an expert, nor do I consider my opinion the last word. Oftentimes I defer to Jim Humble, who presently knows more on this subject than anyone else.

    I have asked Jim about stents on several occasions, and his answer is this: there’s no problem. Chlorine dioxide will not oxidize that massive of a piece of metal, nor will it in any way interfere with the stent’s operation.

    Compounds that contain tiny clusters of heavy metals can be deposited in various parts of the body… in tissue, and the brain, to name a few. This is something that MMS will oxidize.

    My documentary, Understanding MMS: Conversations with Jim Humble, includes an interview with a man who had been diagnosed with prostate cancer, and in 6 month’s time, brought his PSA levels down from a very high number, to just over 1.00.

    An attempt is made to address questions when they arise, and not always by me. If one or two falls through the cracks, please feel free to ask again. Also, there are many other places where questions are answered, including Jim Humble’s site, http://www.mmsanswers.com.

    Best wishes to you and your dad.

    Adam…

  562. Dear phaelosopher why have you not replied to Sarahs comment dated dec 17 2007 in relation to the use of MMs in people who have metal stents in their coronary arteries.I want to use MMs for my father who has prostate cancer but you fail to give an answer to this important question.Why is this Lin jan 23 asked you how MMs can affect heavy metals but you fail ti answer

  563. Paul

    Adam,

    Thank you for that. I was actually just reading Jim Humbles site in which he advises someone with an underactive thyroid gland to brush with 10 drops of MMS in Citric Acid 4 x daily for a week or so before taking MMS orally. I thought I may try that.

    http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=168
    What he does not say is WHEN I should do this. For example on an empty stomach or away from meals?

    As for supplementation there is not much I can really take due to severe lack of funds. This does worry me s I was under a nutrionalist who uses a machine that is able to test what nutrients right down to the formulation/ brand (I forget the name of the machine but it was very cool). But I can tell you I was taking 12 tabs of Elyte brand Chlorella every night before bed. Maybe not enough. Ill certainly stretch to the supplements you list though.

    As for the DMSO Im guessing if I am to mix it with oragne juice I should do it away from the MMS due to the vit C content. But how often should I do that?

    I like the idea of using the DMSO and MMS topically. But I would like a little more blow by blow instruction on that. How long before and in what dosage kind of thing please. I wonder if there is a way to get it to my sinuses as they swell up and hurt too. Not as bad as my mouth mind. Bit of aching and clogged up with mild bleeding. Though, saying that it was working its way up my face and into my upper cheek to my eyes.

    Would you also recommend mixing DMSO with MMS along with this or instead of? Dont mind sounds like I will be using alot of DMSO anyway but would just like to get as much background as I can before I start.

    Thanks again Adam. I had the feeling all along it was just a phase and once it had passed I would be much better. As I said I had a similar reaction before due to high amounts of Magnesium Chloride Oil. I figured it was mercury being displaced at first but obviously there is more to it than that.

    One more thing. You say I am stopping the overgrowth and not killing the bacteria and parasites. I found that interesting.

    Namaste
    Paul

  564. Paul,

    Thank you for sharing your journey with us. I am confident that you will succeed in your quest to reclaim and restore your health.

    This is the real “Armageddon” that most people are looking in the wrong places for, and *you* are the savior that your body has waited for… and you will triumph.

    You’re not “fighting” evil, but restoring balance.

    The pathogen and microbial reduction that you’re doing with MMS and magnesium will contribute to the establishment of said balance, but you may need to add an iodine supplement specifically for the thyroid, or consume spirulina, chlorella, or marine phytoplankton. I understand that nascent iodine is also very good.

    http://www.magnascent.com/Thyroid%20Gland.htm

    One thing to remember is that MMS and the chlorine dioxide that it generates, is not a nutrient, whereas magnesium and iodine are. Chlorine dioxide helps your body get more in balance by bacterial, viral, pathogen and parasitic overgrowth reduction.

    It’s interesting that you had a similar reaction when you bathed in magnesium chloride, because it addresses the nourishment side of the coin.

    As you “bulked up” on this vital nutrient, you also bolstered your immune system (which is happening with the MMS now).

    It sound to me as though a blockage is being exposed, which may explain the inflammation.

    The bacterial population are living organisms, and when you took the MMS and MgCl, bolstering the immune system, they went into “fight or flight” mode, except that they can’t fight it. They can only run.

    However it appears that they exist in such great numbers, as to cause the discomfort that you experienced.

    In addition to taking the MMS orally, I’d consider doing what 89 year old naturopathic doctor, Jim Walker, suggests in his book, Holocaust: American Style, which dissolved a blood clot when he had a stroke: downing a solution of 8 oz of orange juice to which he added an ounce of 99.9% pure dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO).

    This is one nasty tasting concoction, but it’s a marvelous, non-toxic solvent. It will address any blockage factor, known and unknown. You can also apply DMSO topically to the body, which doesn’t produce the distinct “aroma” that oral consumption causes (it goes away in a few days). Lastly, you can combine activated MMS with DMSO, and let the DMSO escort the chlorine dioxide molecules to areas it may not have penetrated.

    I hope these suggestions are helpful. I can see applying DMSO and MMS topically in the area of your month *before* doing a big intake of MMS orally, so as to deter the bacteria from congregating there, and seek shelter elsewhere. However, by continuing to introduce enough chlorine dioxide internally too, you won’t give them anywhere to congregate.

    Again, you’re not killing them all off… you’re reducing the overgrowth, not only of bacteria, but parasites.

    Best wishes to you, and thank you again for sharing.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  565. kirk

    Okay, after taking the 2nd dose of 25 drops I’ve been having bad diarrhea and vomited up a lot of yellow bile. Looks like it’s finally causing some reactions. I’ve also had the need to sleep a lot, which is encouraging.

    -Kirk

  566. Paul

    Hi Adam,

    While seeing my nurtionalist for some time taking a low carb diet and dietry supplements she came across MMS and advised I take it.

    Since I was becoming frustrated with the slow rate of success and incredible expense of the supplements I decided to try it.

    I did the standard 1 drop x daily and raised each day. I did feel quite nausous as I passed 10 drops and as I got into the teens like many here I couldnt stand the taste and developed an aversion. But I added apple juice and pressed on but after feeling sick I dropped back by 3 drops and crawled my way back. Situtaion normal really as I understood it.

    As I raised my limit back all the diahorrea and nausea stopped and I was at 14 drops a day. But unfortunately something else happened. My teeth and gums become incerdibly painful and I developed a humongous lump on my lower left gum. It spread to my jaw and even up my nose and cheek. It got so bad I could not eat and so I stopped taking my dietry supplements and carried on with the MMS at 15 drops twice daily.

    But the pains all over my teeth, jaw, gums and even inside my mouth became too much and I had to stop. It took days to recover and to be quite honest I have not managed to get rid of the abcess since. I did brush with 2 drops every night during my time drinking it but I think it was not enough.

    I noted these symptoms happened to me a year earlier when I tried bathing in Magnesium Chloride every day. But not so severe and did not reach quite so far.

    I have since had to stop my supplementation program due to the expense but have not given up on my health or on MMS. I decided to use it again but this time wished to be better prepared.

    Recently while looking at a forum I noticed someone say they too had pains similar to mine due to Hyperthyroidism. I confess I had no idea what that was so looked it up and realised many of the symptoms associated with this condtion I had. Suddenly all seemed clear. Why my liver intestines and other organs were now fine and yet I still had diahoerrea and frequent cold symptoms and sensitive skin etc. My instincts tell me I found the answer. Even the machine my nutrionalist uses to test my meridians has consistantly shown an over active and stressed thyroid.

    So I wonder if you can advise me on how to persue this condition with MMS? Im willing to have another whack at it but I wonder if there are any supplements I can take (that arent too expensive)? I know things get worse before they get better Im prepared for that but the pain and discomfort even stopped me from eating or sleeping. Is there any way known to you or Jim Humble himself that could assist me with this area? Id appreciate any help as I do not wish to give up.

    Namaste
    Paul

  567. kirk

    I’m up to 25 drops (I’m 240 lbs) and have no nausea or adverse effects. I was thinking that what I bought might be fake but the solution smells like chlorine and is yellow and I’m following directions correctly. Does this just mean I have nothing harmful to kill in my body?

  568. Aloha Karen, and Mahalo for sharing!

    We are experts on disease… experiencing it, but newbies on healing because the journey will be as unique as we are.

    Don’t you just love the idea of a “DIY Healer?” Imagine how different modern medical practice would be if doctors treated themselves with their own remedies…

    Your sharing gives us all signposts that will help us read our own experiences and instead of panic or think something is “wrong,” or “doesn’t work,” we can tune into the simple message that the body is telling us.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  569. Karen

    Hi Clint,
    Well, I haven’t had an outbreak since about a month before I started on MMS. It’s type 2, I think because I don’t have any upper body outbreaks at all. I feel that it is on its way out because I would always “test myself” by eating chocolate or doing exercise, which in the past always caused an outbreak. I haven’t even had a pre-outbreak response — that tingling sensation when I eat the wrong foods or exercise too much.

    The other thing I was doing that really helped it was drinking that Kangen water in addition to using the BOL which brings the water to 10 pH.

    Thanks for the feedback…
    Karen

  570. Clint

    Hey karen:

    Great share…thanks !

    Wanted to ask you…. dod you ever get RID of your Herpes ?

    (and are you referring to #1 or #2)

    thanks,

    Clint

  571. Karen

    Hi Adam,
    Thanks for your contributions to spreading the word about MMS. I first heard about it about 6 months ago. I was on a committed search to end my bout with genital herpes, and was going with the program on Never An Outbreak — he uses a liquid oxygen formula to alkalyze the body that is very strong in combination with dmso. I was on that program when I first found out about MMS, and wondered if the product called B.O.L. was the same as MMS. Checked with Jim and he confirmed it wasn’t. I sat on it for a few months, somwhat hesitant because it just seemed like such powerful chemistry, it kind of was like overwhelming.
    Not being completely successful with the protocol I was on, I ordered it. I still sat on it for another 2 months before beginning. Luckily, I found your site, and felt far more comfortable reading all in questions people were asking and all the reactions they were having.
    Well, talk about fulfilling my own prophecies, I got violently ill with it on just the third day on 3 drops. I had to go to ER to get hydrated because I couldn’t hold anything down. Well, the good thing was, my stomach was so sensitive, I decided to just go with what my body was trying to tell me, like “change your diet drastically — I’ve been trying to tell you this for a few years…” I had to stay with a juice fast for about five days. Ofcourse I stopped taking MMS during this time. Then I gradually started taking in fruits and veges. When I went back on solid foods again, then I started back on the MMS again and had no reaction. For myself, I decided that taking it once a day was enough for me, and I also decided to go at a slower pace than what the recommended protocol is. I feel that MMS does its work, and I am not in such a rush to undo all the damage I have done to my body over the last 63 years too fast. I figure I will give the MMS time it needs to do its work without making me suffer needlessly. And this is considering I have been taking pretty good care of myself, and don’t have too many physical complaints.
    You see, I’m kind of a radical researcher, using my own body as the research instrument. I like to look at evidence, and one of the best ones I use is dark field microscopy to look at my blood. About 12 years ago when I first came across it, I started using digestive enzymes, and saw my blood transform into perfect condition. That’s with plump and luminescent red blood cells in full round and free floating shapes, a clean and clear background, and wonderful moving white blood cells doing what they[re supposed to do. Even though I test myself regularly and have tried so many forms of getting healthy, I haven’t been able to get back there with my blood and my alkalynity no matter what I do short of overdoing it on the anaerobic exercising.
    So, I think my body has been trying to tell me to drastically cut down on my food intake, especially meats since I’m have type A blood, and to eat only organic foods. So since I started on my MMS quest, I have drastically changed my diet.
    Going back to MMS, I got back on it at my slow pace, and had another reaction of diarrhea again at 7 drops. This time I seem to have inadvertantly discovered two things. One is that I had accidentally drank my MMS too soon, before the three minutes were up (also I didn’t add the juice to it), and I think that was the cause of my reaction. My second discovery related to the fact that I am a serious advocate of internal consumption of calcium montmorillonite clay (a brand called Terramin Clay you can find on the internet), distinct from bentonite clay, although they share some similarities – I feel that calcium montmorillonite is much superior clay to bentonite. Being at work today with diarrhea was not fun, so I comsumed alot of Terramin clay, like two teaspoons full, and it worked like a charm! By lunchtime I was ready to eat again.
    By the way, I found Terramin when I was trying to bring down extremely high levels of aluminum in my body. A urine test done by a company called Genova Diagnostics read my aluminum levels at 2000% of the toxic level. It took me 3 months to figure out where all that aluminum came from — then it dawned on my I grew up in a rural community on the Big Island of Hawaii where our water source was catchment rain water collected from, guess what, our ALUMINUM roof!!! Well, first I put myself on NCD or natural cellular defense, but it was so expensive so I found Terramin and switched to it. After about 1 1/2 to 2 years on Terramin, my aluminum levels dropped down much lower than the toxic level. I love that kind of validation!!!
    Anyway, I just wanted to thank you Adam for the valuable service you are providing to us do-it-yourself healers, just stumbling along here on our own. I took all your comments and am putting them in a file by categories and responses. Right now I’m about half-way done. I’ll be glad to share it if anyone is interested when I’m done. Have you discovered http://www.earthclinic.com yet? I like their format of subjects and sharing…
    I just wanted to recommend to others if you get hit with the diarrhea and vomiting, try the Terramin clay – take it internally and it works so fast you’d be amazed. Also listen to your body and what its trying to tell you about your diet and habits. My suspicion is that the diarrhea and vomiting reaction is directly related to the acidic condition of your bodies. One of the reasons I think I reacted this last time is because I went on a 4-day vacation and went a little off my diet and regiment, and thus became more acidic than usual. I also believe that about 90%+ of all people, including vegetarians tend to be over acidic in their system.
    I also wanted to ask if anyone has direct experience of what happens if you consume the MMS & the acitvator solution immediately after mixing, say accidentally like I did.
    Much Aloha,
    Karen

  572. Rodney,

    Thanks for the Thumbs Up! Doin’ what I can. If you’re not familiar with living clay… calcium bentonite, you might consider it. You can use it topically to relieve skin irritation, and drink it to remove pathogens and parasites like MMS. It’s a natural analgesic (pain reducer), and accomplishes its ends by absorption (via swelling) and adsorption (via sticking) of pathogens as it passes through the body.

    The clay appears to have an energetic property that, when combined with water, facilitates the body’s restoration of its normal, healthy state.

    You can learn more at:

    http://www.aboutclay.com/

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  573. Hi Kirk.

    Oxidizing pathogens is what MMS does. From the standpoint of pH, MMS oxidizes only those microorganisms and inorganic products that have detrimental effect on the body.

    DMSO is not an oxidizer, but it dissolves and penetrates like no other compound on earth, and because it travels through all barriers (some of which have formed due to deposits caused by said detrimental microorganisms, etc.), it enhances the beneficial effects of anything that it bonds with.

    DMSO has abilities that are unique to it as well, which are also beneficial. It is not a pathogen killer, but its ability to break down and then evacuate deposits made (or facilitated) by pathogen overgrowth can bring great relief to many situations were inflammation, blood pressure, and headaches are involved. (Plus much more beyond that.)

    DMSO does not compete with MMS. It complements. It can deliver the chlorine dioxide molecule throughout the body more completely, and therefore, reach and oxidize pathogens, which may have been inaccessible otherwise due to the effects of blockages, that would have been not penetrated.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  574. kirk

    Adam,

    You were talking about transdermal DMSO + MMS not having the negative healing effects and the Overnight Cure for Cancer said the same. I thought that effect was the reaction of the MMS doing its job in oxidizing the pathogens…?

  575. Clint

    Wow Michelle,

    So your using that protocol with DMSO, MMS & MSM…. was curious how is your skin holding up ?

    Clint

  576. Michelle

    Hi Clint,

    I tried various mediums – water, apple juice and soda at various times.

    It has taken several weeks after stopping the oral doses for my stomach to feel almost normal again.

    I am pleased with the DMSO/transdermal use of MMS and I have had good results with a reduction in some of my chronic lyme disease symptoms. I am also on the salt/vitamin C regime for lyme and co-infections.

  577. Rodney

    Bill’s question from Sept 24 seems to have been overlooked. I recall reading that Vitamin C reduces the effect of MMS & that we should keep them separate.

    As I have ongoing nausea & diarrhoea at 6×1, I have decided to take my juice extract in the morning & MMS at night. At least then I’m only nauseous while I’m asleep! I had no idea that my body would be that seriously stuffed up, but then I guess it has had decades of abuse ….

    I also have the vague feeling that I might be losing some of my belly fat & squirting that out the back end along with everything else. I’ll report on that one later.

    I have also had some pretty nasty irritation around the bum area, which is nothing new after haemorrhoids & fungal infections, but I figure it’s just a side effect of toxins being released onto an area skin that is already rather sensitive. Treating that with a topical cream, which seems to be helping.

    I have also had Jim’s words from the ebook ringing in my ears, saying, “Don’t stop”, so I am persevering through the toxic elimination side effects.

    And Adam, great work on answering all the questions so elegantly.

    Rodney.

  578. james

    Hi Adam,
    I want to order DMSO. Does anyone know the address where I can order and how much it cost. Thanks

  579. “I wish someone could figure a way to check if it’s really gone after using MMS”

    Ever heard of the Western Blot antibody test? It’s quite accurate when used 3-4 months after infection (allowing enough time for antibodies to form).

    I wonder if you would still have antibodies even after exterminating the actual virus, though?

  580. tundratic

    “All of these will have pH values that are out of the body’s range of good health. They will also have a positive ionic charge. The chlorine dioxide equipped cells do not oxidize beneficial bacteria, or healthy cells, as their pH levels are 7 or above, and hold a negative ion charge.”

    Wait, so if pathogens are acidic electron donors – doesn’t that mean they have negative ionic charges? And beneficial alkaline bacteria & cells have positive ionic charges?

    Also, is there a newb’s guide to DMSO? How to use it orally, topically or in conjunction with MMS? Do’s & don’ts? Thanks!

  581. Bob

    Thanks for your response Clint.

    I am still interestd in speaking with anyone who has Lymphedema and is taking MMS.

    Thanks….Bob

  582. Clint

    Bob:

    I’d say you have nothing to lose, and EVERYthing to gain my friend.

    Might also try using DMSO gel on the sore areas of your leg, it’s a great anti-inflammatory.

    Clint

  583. Bob

    I have Lymphedema, a condition that blocks the Lymph system, which has created swelling and severe pain in my lower left leg and foot. As a result I haven’t been able to walk for the past two weeks. Does anyone have any experience of using MMS in relation to this particular condition?

  584. James

    Hi Adam,
    You said earlier that 30 drops of MMS will cure any hepatitis of any kind. I am still wondering why after six months of using MMS and the last time I used it was 45 drops for one week and still my heps virus is still there.

    james

  585. Great going Clare!

    I’d suggest the book, “DMSO: Nature’s Healer” by Dr. Morton Walker. It’s a bit dated (© 1993), but it gives you an idea of the wide range of genuine medical research that has been done with DMSO in the past 40 years.

    You’ll find an entire chapter on arthritis. Separately from MMS, you can brush DMSO directly on the affected areas and, because of its nature as a safe, master solvent, anticipate experiencing great relief.

    Cheers,

    Adam…

  586. Clare

    Hi Adam
    Thank you so much for your response. Have ordered the DMSO and will start as soo as it arrives. Have started Yoga to assist with my Arthritis (osteo) , have given up smoking , and am taking Digestive Bitters before meals. Heres hoping!!!!

  587. Clint

    James:

    I’ve taken MMS intravenously, and Adam’s right, it is a bit of a hassle.

    You’ll have to have an art at finding a vein and securing it with a butterfly needle….BUT….the most difficult part was finding out that when the MMS enters the blood stream with the saline solution…it starts to burn like hell after about 6 drops. I was up to 18 drops MMS (with 90 drops Citric Acid) 2 x’s a day…and my veins were screaming at me.

    I eventually had to resort to veins in the legs and found them easier to get a good connection, but…they still hurt a lot after the IV.

    So….. if you have balls of steel…and a high tolerance for pain my friend….feel free to knock yourself out !

    😉

    Clint

  588. Clare,

    The MMS isn’t the cause of your lethargy. You have a blockage somewhere in your plumbing (circulatory system) or certain organs, such as the gallbladder, kidney, or liver, all of which could be helped by MMS, as well as DMSO, which is a natural solvent. DMSO will dissolve plaque that builds up within arterial walls and blood vessels. MMS will oxidize pathogens and parasites that sometime contribute to the plaque buildup.

    It’s the lack of sufficient circulation of oxygen through your system that accounts for the lethargy and lack of energy. MMS will help restore that by reducing the pathogens. DMSO will help by dissolving plaque.

    You also need to add sufficient digestive enzymes, aerobic bacteria, and fundamental nutrients so that your body can repair itself once you re-establish the “order” within it.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  589. Hi James,

    To answer your direct question, I know what I’ve seen that is documented in my video, Understanding MMS: Conversations with Jim Humble. It appears that using MMS intravenously is complicated, and that other options, such as an enema, or activated and then used with DMSO, may be as, or more effective.

    I really like DMSO because it naturally enhances the effectiveness of anything it bonds with, *and* because of its superior penetration capabilities, delivers it to every part of the body, which may be the gist of your problem. The chlorine dioxide can’t oxidize stuff that is inaccessible. Nothing is inaccessible to DMSO, so if it takes the chlorine dioxide along for the ride, then hepatitis viruses would eventually be reached and eliminated.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  590. James

    Hi Adam,
    Do you know how to use MMS intravenously. I am suffering from chronic hepatitis B and I have use MMS for more than six months now but the virus is still there. Please xplain how to use it intravenously(IV)

    James

  591. Clint

    Michelle,

    Was curious…what are you mixing with the MMS when you drink it ?

    (fruit juice, water, ….?)

    Clint

  592. Michelle

    Hi Breen,

    Yes, I too experienced severe stomach pain after taking MMS – so bad I had to discontinue taking orally. I am still having stomach problems two weeks later.

    I am now taking MMS transdermally with DMSO. (I have lyme and possible other co-infections).

  593. Clare

    after many years of traces of blood in my urine and being told “you are a natural stone maker” its all gone!!! I give a big star to MMS as I believe that is what has fixed it. Does MMS lower blood pressure??? I take Micardis 40 1 x daily but on checking my BP because I feel so lethargic it is very low and am wondering if it is the MMS? any clues?

  594. melissa

    I am on seizure medications: keppra, lamictal, and phenobarbital. Will MMS cause any type of adverse reaction if I take it with these chemicals? I will introduce MMS to my neurologist

  595. Clint

    I agree Nancy….

    That’s why when I had the breakout with the pimples … I put the MMS Solution on them…and it killed them almost immediately.

    🙂

  596. Nancy

    Clint, Charlie,
    You have to remember that your skin is your third lung. You will heal from the inside out. You do not want to suppress these conditions back into the body. Deep healing for cronic condiitons brings on other conditions you will sometimes have to find another remedy for. I heard once for every year of a cronic condition, it takes 6 months with the right remedy to totally relieve that condition. Of course we are all different and the things we can try vary. Also, I found with my daughter when we eliminated glutin from our diet, her skin conditions improved greatly. (I’m a bad speller)

  597. Clint

    Charlie:

    Am glad to know someone else had this experience, and it wasn’t just ME….it drove me crazy trying to figure out WTF these were, and what was causing it.

    Weird thing was for me, was that they came and went 3 times for me…BUT……when they came back each time…it was in the SAME place everytime (Back of neck, right side…… under left arm, near pit)

    Fricken weird.

    Clint

  598. charlie

    Thanks for the response adam. i agree with most of what you are saying. I think the human body is too complex for anyone to fully understand. I am still getting the “itchy red bumps” i talked to a friend of mine who is an herbalist. She suggested eating an unprocessed diet for a few weeks. take some burdock root and red clover. and do a body cleanse.
    I am working on that now. too soon to see any results. I went to a dermatologist as well. He tells me it is classic hives. i agree with him. These “itchy red bumps” or hives did not occur until i took mms. so indirectly or directly i believe my seemingly chronic hives are a result of mms. grrr.

  599. Bill

    Started on 1 drop, slight nausea. It is now 2 weeks later and I am on 15 drops 3 times a day. No nausea. I am trying to unblock the 80% blocked coronary arteries.
    I’m also on 30grams vit c per day, the Pauling protocol + Strauss heart drops.
    If after 1 week at 15 x 3 drops I will increase up to 30 drops.
    Any opinions or comments?

  600. CH

    Hi P,

    I stopped MMS about 11 weeks ago since I took a course of Homoepathy. I am still experiencing non-stop Neuragia without having any outbreak of sores or blister…. I am restarting MMS…

    CH

  601. Dear Charlie,

    The issue of alkalizing isn’t a theory, it’s an understood fact. There are several places within the human body that are, by their very design and nature, acidic — the stomach being and obvious one, and the skin (dermis) being another, but by its definition, a body in homeostasis means a body in pH balance, and pH balance means 7.3-7.4.

    To say you don’t believe you can change your pH would mean you don’t believe your body can heal.

    A medical doctor won a Nobel Prize in 1931, Otto Warburg, with the discovery and confirmation of the relationship between the mutagenic growth of cancer tumors and pH… acidity — which also means low pH, low oxygen and low cellular voltage and cell death — triggered cancer growth. As pH is raised, through the addition of oxygen at the cellular level, cancer tumors first went dormant (at 7.4 pH), then at 8.5 pH, disappeared on their own.

    No battle needed, just an understanding of cause and effect.

    I agree that the body is too complex to look to one thing to heal, especially if we’re talking about MMS. However, the body should be looked as a whole system unto itself, and not parsed into discrete components that don’t have any relationship with others, which is what traditional medicine does.

    Your thoughts on self-medication would be, and will be practical when physicians, and the system that they operate within, is responsive to the *health* of the individual, and not the financial and influential health of their profession. Here and there, physicians *are* discovering, using, and administering MMS. However, at this point in time, they are a distinct minority.

    DMSO has been around for over 40 years, with thousands upon thousands of clinical trials, studies, white papers, and physician led symposiums under its belt, and it has garnered only a sliver of approval for human use by the FDA, given the very broad range of natural, non-toxic benefit that it provides.

    And the vibrational medicine that I referred to in my reply above is not yet on the radar for most people… Many will rationalize. “It’s too safe. It doesn’t involve any sacrifice. How can it be effective?”

    Current medical orthodoxy would be very skeptical, because doctors aren’t trained to consider anything but pharmaceuticals. We celebrate TV programs that feature arrogant, insensitive, and dysfunctional doctors (e.g., “House”) who sit around guessing what’s wrong with their patients, and who play God with their physiology, and the drugs that might as well have come from the gods. We think that their way is the only “successful” way… that surviving *is* the triumph of the system. Our expectations and understanding are way too low, and the system is profiting nicely on the way things are presently done. They brag that people are living longer, but they don’t mention that they are getting sick earlier and therefore, living with disease longer.

    So until the system demonstrates that it is looking out for me and *my* welfare, then I’d better be looking out for my own, otherwise I’ll be on welfare, and when the insurance runs out, still sick.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  602. Dear Samantha,

    Given what I have learned about cancer over the past year, understanding the true pathology of its genesis and retreat, there is NO way I’d permanently sacrifice your cat’s eye on the “hunch” that it might be.

    Whether it isn’t, or it is, the condition can be reversed.

    You didn’t comment on how your cat is feeling or behaving (whether in pain, etc), so I suspect that’s not a factor at this point. And if you get to the real cause of the problem and correct it, the eye should respond positively too.

    Given how the natural solvent dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO), gets into the blood stream and penetrates EVERY cell in the body, I would use it to begin dissolving the build-up that has backed up into the eye. I would also team DMSO up with MMS to oxidize any parasites that might be living there, and producing discharge that is stealing his sight.

    I recently interviewed a 91 year young naturopathic doctor from Alabama, who uses DMSO to reverse a number of conditions that would be irreversible (and expensive) if “normal” medical treatment were applied. One of his practices is applying DMSO directly into the eye. He doesn’t wear glasses.

    You can listen to my interview with him by clicking here

    http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/1083/33/

    (please notify me if this link is no longer active, as the podcast will have moved).

    I’m not suggesting that you apply it directly to the cat’s eye… at least to begin. But it’s likely that the blockage can be either unblocked or the defecating parasite can be oxidized using these non-toxic compounds.

    Another totally safe modality that I’d consider are giving him frequency-infused waters. I just returned form California interviewing people who have witnessed profound improvements in their animals using frequency-infused waters… two were dog owners… one of the dogs had an acute form of cancer. The owner didn’t discover this water product until *after* he allowed the doctor to amputate one of the dog’s legs. Within 7 days of treatment, the dog was acting normal again, even with the chemotherapy that the owner still allowed (which I believe was/is unnecessary).

    The other owner’s dog had experienced a gradual but accelerated decline in health, with an extremely distended stomach, no appetite. The vet began prescribing drugs, steroids, etc., and the decline continued… this over a 7 month period. With the dog now close to death (which the doctor had been preparing them for), one of the owners was introduced to these frequency-infused water products, and having nothing to lose but the dog’s life, decided to try them.

    Within 24-hours, the dog’s appetite returned, and within 7 days, he was his normal self. I saw both dogs, and videotaped both of these accounts.

    The woman who told the dog owners about the “quantum waters” has a shelter for orphaned cats. She gets them as young as 1-day old, nurses them into life, then finds adoptive homes for them. She has been using these waters for several years, and have seen many “miraculous” *shifts* in their health. One nice thing about animals, they don’t have an ego or intellect that allows skepticism and doubt to cloud their judgment. If something is effective or corrective, they’ll have an innate knowing, and be receptive. That’s why they will often eat grass, much to owner’s chagrin.

    The founder of the company that produces these waters was diagnosed with cervical cancer at age 50. She declined the standard treatment, and cured herself. That was 25 years ago. She discovered the principle of vibrational frequencies several years after, and is now an Energy Intuitive. You can listen to my conversation with her by clicking the link below:

    http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/960/33/

    And then visit http://www.quantumwaters.com

    There are more ways to *re-sight* a cat… I’d do much more inquiry before letting someone do such a permanent mutilation.

    Just my opinion.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  603. charlie

    Got the results from the scan. All is good, and i did have a slight reduction in inflammation from my IBS problems, but no way to tell if that was a result from MMS. Now i need to address mystery rash. I’ll try Adam’s suggestions on adding nutritional elements. Although i disagree on the alkalize theory. I don’t believe you can change that really. I think MMS really screwed me up. I don’t doubt its potential, but feel the human body is way too complex to rely on one thing to heal. It seems like anytime something goes wrong with someone on MMS their is a suggestion dictating something about one needing this and that to correct problems coming from MMS. My thoughts are that MMS is best in use with the aid of a physician, we should not self medicate with something this potent.

  604. Samantha

    Hi, Adam

    Our cat (a 7-year-old Maine Coon) has an orange discoloration in his eyes. The vet thinks it is cancerous, but the only way to be sure is to remove an entire eye for a biopsy.

    Can MMS help our cat? What are the risks?

    Thanks,
    Samantha

  605. Hey Charlie,

    As you have surmised, the MMS/chlorine dioxide doesn’t “cause” one to get rashes or blotchy skin. Rashes are outbreaks of “micro-critters” that have surfaced on some part of the body, which MMS/chlorine dioxide can and will oxidize.

    You should also look into some of the “superfoods” to complement what the MMS does, such as marine phytoplankton. Your body still needs nutritional elements — amino acids, vitamin complexes and minerals, Omega 3 and more — to truly alkalize the body chemistry, get the job done and build up the immune system.

    When you begin delivering enough oxygen to each cell, so that their voltage is normal, they will “zap” anaerobic micro-critters and pathogens on their own. Chlorine dioxide will reduce the pathogen count, but won’t increase cellular energy levels. Only real nutrition can do that.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  606. Breen,

    What comes up for me is your hydration levels. How much water do you habitually take in? The nausea is indeed “normal” if you have a significant number of pathogens, anaerobic microorganisms, or parasites in the intestinal tract. The nauseous feeling is one result of their oxidation, the next step being elimination from the body by the quickest means possible. Diarrhea is one such way, but that is dependent on adequate amounts of water in the body.

    It would be prudent to take *more* water than you’re used to prior to taking MMS. The body needs it under normal circumstances, but needs more under these circumstances.

    I would also suggest that you use citric acid to activate the MMS instead of vinegar. I don’t believe that people are “allergic” to natural foods. However, the natural foods may trigger a healing response in the body that we find objectionable, and therefore take measures to avoid or stigmatize.

    It’s very likely that citric foods trigger the release of something that your body wants to get rid of. Listen to it, and help it do its job, since it’s only job is to serve *your* highest needs.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  607. Brene

    Wondering if anyone has experienced acute stomach pain after taking mms on an empty stomach. Had been up to 6 drops per day after eating, with some stomach discomfort and nausea. Using apple cider vinegar as allergic to lemon and citric fruits. Then did today on empty stomach accidentally and now in severe pain. Appreciate knowing if this is normal and what can be done to help the pain, if possible. Also, how long do most people need to take mms and at what dosage to see the benefits through?

    Many thanks.. input much appreciated..

  608. Clint

    Great Charlie…keep us posted !

  609. charlie

    I should also note i had a pet/ct scan done today, so if mms did anything good or bad, i should know and i’ll report on here. I took MMS for 3 weeks daily working up to 12 drops a day, morning and night.

  610. charlie

    my bumps come and go, sometimes in the same spot. They may be there for most of the day, but by evening they are gone. Most of my bumps are on my legs. Some of them bleed when i itch. I have other bumps on my wrist and forearm, but not as severe. i just noticed one underneath my chin today. i suspect it is not the mms, but i did not get these bumps until i started taking mms. it really concerns me because a little over a year ago i had hodgkins lymphoma, and one of the symptoms of advanced disease is a rash. errrr. I’ll know for sure on friday. One good thing that may have come from MMS is my IBS symptoms. I am completely normal now.

  611. Clint

    Jack, I would be stunned if the MMS (topically) doesn’t obliterate the red bumps within 24 hours.

    I might try putting the DMSO on all the bumps you see….let the DMSO then soak in for 20 min….then, when there is barely any residue on the skin from the DMSO, dip your fingertips in the (10 drops MMS + 50 drops citric acid) solution…and apply liberally.

    I’ve just left it on all night..and wake up next morning and apply again if need be.

    Good luck,

    Clint

  612. Jack

    Thanks so much for your thoughtful advice, Clint. I have ordered the recommended DMSO gel and look forward to using the stuff as a prep for the topical MMS solution you have described above. I am also going to apply topical MMS solution to the red bumps that Charlie and I are both battling against. Mine are now mainly behind the right ear, and nothing conventional has made a dent, despite the fact that I am only using three drops of MMS daily, down from a high of ten drops a day just one week ago. My ambition is to use the topical DMSO in combination with the MMS solution to nuke the bumps, and then to increase my MMS intake to six drops daily again and stay there for a good long while, before making incremental increases over time, until I once again reach ten drops. One thing is sure, everyone reacts differently to MMS–important to gauge your own systemic reaction before going nuts in the dosage department.

  613. Clint

    Charlie:

    Have you already put MMS on your red itchy spots (topically) ?

    Clint

  614. charlie

    Adam,

    Thanks for the response 🙂

    You say “Those red itchy places indicate the location of a anaerobic microbial colony, which can change in a very short period of time.”

    It has been almost a month since i have been off of MMS, and i continue to get those itchy red bumps. So the cause must be from something other than mms, yes?

  615. Clint

    And sorry….3rd one down from the top..unscented (16oz.) Red label

  616. Clint

    BINGO Jack !!

    Exactly my brand.

    (great stuff)

  617. Jack

    Thanks for your excellent response, Clint! Which DMSO gel do you prefer? I notice that unpleasant odor is always mentioned in relation to this important treatment–do you use a rose scented version or just go with the un-fragranced product? Which brand do you trust?

  618. Clint

    Jack:

    It’s easy.. I use 10 drops MMS, and activate it with 50 drops Citric Acid… then, while it is sitting for 3 minutes, I apply DMSO Gel to the affected area….and let that soak in….THEN I apply (with my finger tips) the Activated MMS solution….I usually wash it off after 30 min…or sooner if I feel it is starting to burn (which rarely happens)

  619. Jack

    Thanks, Clint–it is somewhat heartening to know that I am not alone in dealing with corollary skin problems….

    Does anyone here know how to make a topical MMS solution that can be used to treat an open wound?

  620. John,

    In one of my interviews with Jim Humble, he mentioned how effective MMS should be if used in conjunction with DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide). At the time I was still learning about MMS, so I took him on his word that DMSO could be helpful, but I did not explore it any further.

    Recently and currently, I am learning about DMSO, and what Jim had to say about its potential use with MMS was, in my opinion, an understatement.

    I would suggest that you read a protocol called, “The Overnight Cancer Cure.” Forget about the cancer reference. It outlines a way to get more MMS into the system than is generally practical when taken orally. This protocol calls for the transdermal intake of activated MMS, transported by DMSO. It addresses the ability to get larger amounts of chlorine dioxide in the system without having to deal with the issues of taste, and healing crises.

    http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html

    DMSO is a natural solution that is derived from wood pulp, is inexpensive to purchase, and has over four decades of definitive clinical research behind it that clearly demonstrates its (1) safety, as in non-toxicity, and (2) systemic and holistic benefits to the body… which, in part, explains why it is NOT fully approved for human use by the FDA.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  621. john

    Hi Adam,
    After using MMS 15 drops twice a day for six months now my hepatitis B is still undetectable level. i did a blood test and though the virus reduced but it is still there. Can you help please adam I am dying. Do you think i need the MMS injection or not please help.

    John

  622. Clint

    Thanks Adam… just trying to help out.

    I am STILL stunned about the little critters though…and what it is and where they cam from…cause I thought for SURE that I got those pimples from sitting outside at a restaurant that landed on my shirt collar.

    The weird thing is, now, they keep coming back, in the same areas (my right side-back of neck…and under my left arm pit) it just bizarre.

    I did MMS IV’s (yes, in the vein… 18 drops 2x’s a day for 2 weeks) and they never showed up, nothing ! …yet, when I take MMS orally…they appear every once in a while. I don’t get the ‘sticky liquid’ that is talked about, but rather they are just extremely itchy…and they seem to spread the more I scratch.

    I am still on the fence as to wether they are coming from the outside, or from the inside.

    So, am not sure Jack what to tell you re the pimples.

    Clint

  623. Jack

    Wow, CdnFarmgirl, that is impressive! I have this nasty sebaceous cyst that has resisted all forms of conventional treatment for over a year. I am sticking with MMS largely in the hope of seeing that horror disappear once and for all. And I will be very gradually moving up from 3 drops daily to 6, where I plan to stay for the next few months of regular usage. I am also giving up vitamin C entirely for awhile to avoid interfering with MMS.

    Does anyone know to make the topical MMS solution that can be applied to infections on the skin?

  624. CdnFarmgirl

    Jay,

    My father-in-law had a large melanoma spot on the back of his hand, and after taking MMS for a few months (at average dose of 6-8 drops once a day) found that it got smaller, then brushed off and completely disappeared.

  625. Jack

    I worked up to 10 drops daily of MMS activated by the recommended citric acid and distilled water solution: no effects beyond a really vile rash on my wrist, and behind my left ear, of all places…. The tiny bumps secreted sticky liquid and did not respond to any treatment (hydrogen peroxide, iodine or any other topical disinfectant). I finally had to lower my intake to 3 drops per day, where I remain at present. The rashes have largely gone, though the back of my ear is still a bit of a mess. In addition, I developed small bumps on the forehead, an adolescent skin problem of the kind we all hope will remain buried in junior high school. My wife suffered the same kinds of problems. We have continued with vitamin supplements in rather average does, including vitamin C, but all of those taken early in the day with MMS coming late at night. Could there be a correlation, Clint?

    Also, I wonder if anyone here has heard that MMS is effective against cysts and the like?

  626. Yo Clint,

    MMS will definitely address the itchy-critters, actually reducing their numbers to a more manageable level that the immune system can handle on its own.

    Warm regards and many thanks for your always positive and helpful contributions here,

    Adam…

  627. Charlie,

    Another way to describe what we call “skin rashes” would be “microbial motility.” It’s a “fight or flight” drama being played out on a microscopic stage. Whenever microorganisms sense the imminent presence of something that can destroy them, they run. When they get to “edge” of the body, breaking through the dermis (skin), there’s no where else to run. They become toast.

    This can happen with transdermal magnesium intake (which is nutritional in effect), as well as with MMS. Microbial movement in the body is far more prevalent that we tend to think about.

    “Itching” is another form of microbial motility and activity.

    Those red itchy places indicate the location of a anaerobic microbial colony, which can change in a very short period of time.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  628. Steve,

    The same statements apply to you, as I suggested to P. You too should look into using MMS with DMSO… in fact, MMS and DMSO is a safe, beneficially potent combination.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  629. P

    While MMS is NOT a nutrient, it assists by what it eliminates from your body: that is, acid-producing and oxygen averse microorganisms, and more.

    If this is not an issue for you, then there will be virtually no effect from taking it. If it is an issue, then taking it will reduce the population of aforementioned microorganisms, and their acid by-products.

    I am learning much about DMSO… and will be writing more soon about it an MMS.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  630. Clint

    Wow Charlie….I have had those as well…. and I thought that all along that it was an outside cause.

    When you scratch yours, do they seem to spread, the more you scratch ?

    I usually end up putting MMS (10 drops MMS to 50 drops citric acid)..then put them on the affected areas, and they go away within the hour.

    CLint

  631. charlie

    Is it common to get a skin rash that resembles mosquito bites on mms. I have been off MMS for a few weeks now and still getting occasional red itchy marks, mostly on my legs and wrist.

  632. Steve

    I have tertiary syphilis.

  633. P

    Hey adam,

    I am not sure if I have the hiv. I will do a test in 2 months. I want to ask that if i start using the MMS from now even if i am negative in hiv, do I will have problems with my healthy/?. Thank you in advance. P

  634. Hi Jay,
    Not being smart, but read Jim Humble’s books. He discusses treatment for melanoma in some detail.
    Best wishes,
    Neil

  635. P.

    CH

    How are u doing?
    Any results yet:)?

    tc

  636. I’m just beginning to learn more about MMS.

    – I’m wondering if you’ve heard of anyone who’s had remission from Melonoma cancer?
    – Also I have 2 friends who suffer from migraines. and one who has terrible arthritis. Any reports on how MMS does for those afflictions?

    Thanks,

    Jay

  637. Clint

    Rohan:

    It CAN be given to people with AIDS… they simply have to take it upon themselves to be their own doctors, and do it themselves, and not wait for a doctor to step up to the plate.

    No doctor in America will suggest taking MMS when their support and funding is coming from the AMA and the FDA….

    Clint

  638. Rohan

    I was thinking why the MMS can’t be given to AIDS victims. Because they have no hope left. Why can’t try this.
    If it heals ……good
    otherwise —sorry.

  639. Ozz

    Whatever happend to howie?
    Haven’t heard from him.
    Is he still alive?

  640. mark williams

    Hello Jim, I am seeking the details ,what is the difference between Nacl and Nacl02? ,I asked my Pharmacist to make a 28%solution in Distalled water;she did, a half liter. Yet on the bottle she gave to me it reads Nacl, i asked for Nacl02. Any Help.?? I also recieved from her, granulated pure citric acid,yet i dont know how much of the granulated form i should liquify in distalled water.Please write a small protocol,for this. I added 3 drops MMS to a small glass of Distalled H20,that had citric acid in,yet there was no smell. Should i add only the mms to liqufied citric acid? Thanks,and thanks fro your work.Best regards.MW

  641. Clint

    Karen,

    I usually suggest people buy MMS from sites that say “Approved by Jim Humble” on it !

    Is see no where on your site that you bought from, where it sais that…. just fyi,

    Clint

  642. Karen

    I have ordered this product at this webiste
    http://miraclemineralsupplement.ca/

    and the next day asked for a refund because I discovered that I had ordered way too much and that I might have problems with customs and so prefered to get it from a supplier in Australia.

    My request for a refund has been ignored and over two weeks later nothing has arrived in the mail. My credit card was billed and so I am warning people reading this site to let the buyer beware.

    I have also learned that the ingredients in this are used to make homemade bombs and I am hoping and praying that my order has not been held up in customs and myself and family suspected as terrorists.

  643. Clint

    Charlie,

    Ozone and hydrogen peroxide can do damage to your cells, which can help the microorganisms.

    Ozone is the most powerful oxidizer known of the important oxidizers. Hydrogen peroxide is second. MMS (Chlorine Dioxide) is the weakest oxidizer known and it cannot damage body cells.

    The strong oxidizers don’t kill any more pathogens than Chlorine dioxide, in fact not as much, but they can kill good cells. Chlorine dioxide kills all of the pathogen and oxidizes the heavy metals.

  644. Charlie

    This is a very good point below and no one has seemed to address this concern. anyone have any thoughts? what does happen to the electrons that mms causes to dissipate?

    Hi Adam,
    A number of people are worried that MMS might have an ageing effect? There’s so much hype about anti-oxidants, and here we’re using a GREAT OXIDANT! So if the chlorine dioxide grabs electrons from the pathogens and is destroyed in the process, do those electrons become free radicals?

    Many thanks for your great answers!

    Iahaia.

  645. roy

    I have a blog at http://houseofbugs.com/weblog/?site_id=309 and I report on my personal journey with MMS. Yes I have had some pretty heavy nausea and vomiting and diahhrea. I was prepared for it because I have been reading the Humble websites(I have links posted there at the blog). One in particular is a Jim Humble question and answer section about using the product.

    I might caution anyone taking this product, that I have experienced a “next day nausea” rather than an immediate one.

    So if you are just starting out taking the product, you might want to take it very slowly so you don’t overdose and cause a rush of toxins out of your body and the associated nausea.

    I suggest giving yourself a day to see how your chosen dose will affect you. Same day overall nausea etc. reactions to the dose I decide on have not usually happened, but 2nd day reactions have happened often. Also the nausea on the 2nd day was set off more when I continued higher doses on the 2nd day.

    Overall I feel lots better, MMS has cured my lung infection(from what I do not know but it is gone hallelujiah), and a bad blood poisoning type infection from a cut on the outside of my finger that was black and had made a vein trail up my arm. So I am pretty positive about the whole experience.

    I went to the jim humble site on questions and answers that I posted in my blog, and got the topical solution formula. It is stronger than what you take internally because jim indicated on his site that outside the skin requires a stronger dose and the mixture that he suggested will last for 3 days as he indicated.

    I discuss my whole experience, which is ongoing, on my blog(listed above).
    I am going to link a track back to this discussion on the blog as well.

    Good luck,
    Roy

  646. Sue

    clint,

    Please share more. what do you know about MSM and Scleroderma?

    Sue

  647. Clint

    Sue….

    If I may, I’d HIGHLY recommend taking the MSM
    (Methylsulfonylmethane) Powder … the sulphur mineral supplement ( 1/2 tsp 4x’s a day…with meals)

    It’ll change your life.

    Clint

  648. Sue

    Has anyone out there used MMS after being diagnosed with Scleroderma? I am currently under the care of a rheumatologist who has me a a reiment of Methotrexate and Cellcept, but my symptoms continue to get worse several months into the treatment. Symptoms include: tighterning (hardening of the skin) severe joint pain and restriction of movement in joints, swollen& tight feet and lower legs, and just recently some fibrosis on a lung.

  649. Clare

    Hi once again to all who use this wonderful rescource, I have been off MMS for a while but after a 2nd bout of VERY swollen face (right side only) also just under the ear going into the neck, I took MMS 7 drops again today. I have a loose tooth and believe it has affected my saliva glands. about 5 hours after the MMS I am getting a rush of cloudy and salty saliva coming from the right side of my mouth, seems to be coming from under my tongue.Any way the MMS seems to be working as I felt like s..t all afternoon, headache and fuzzy feeling and wanting to go and have a sleep, but will persist with the MMS until the swelling goes away.Any ideas anyone of wether I am right in my self diagnosis? I avoid antibotics like the plague!!!

  650. Clint

    Hmmm….shouldn’t it be . . .

    ‘Wealth without health is worthless” ??

    🙂

  651. Interesting,

    I just started MMS, and I did feel a bit nauseous, but nothing that came near vomiting. I have always had a stong stomach, so it didn’t bother me much, little bit of belching relieved feeling, and now I am up to 6 drops using lemon juice and magnetized conditioned water, not ionized.

    I have had a problem with periodontal disease, but the real issue was a tooth that was bothering me, but when I went to dentist, Xrays showed no decay, so root canal was suggested as it may have been a small crack not detected with Xrays.

    Long story short, I was sent to specialist and they couldn’t see anthing either, but hit was still hot and cold sensitive, so they thought is may be infection, so they prescribed antibiotic, which I didn’t take, never have, sorry, but as many know, this is why our immune systems are so compromised, too many antibiotics being prescribed.

    I tolerated it for three years, it gets sensitive sporadically, so if I don’t chew on that side, it remains in check along with peroxide brushing, so I thought MMS may be worth a try. Much to my amazment, I can bite down full force and feel no pain after only a few days and now at just 6 drops twice a day.

    I have not been totally pain free in three years, so this was rather dramitic results in my opinion, and I remain a skeptic until I see results personally, and I have. I don’t know about reversing the periodonal disease just yet, but I am just ecstatic over no more pain or sensitivity, so this proves something is happening, what, I don’t know yet.

    Great thread, thanks to everyone who has contributed to date, it has opened my eye to even more potential uses. My daughter has juvenile diabetes and thyroid issue, so I will report back on her results as I hope all others will on these specific issues.

    Health Without Wealth is Worthless,

  652. Dear Peter,

    If you have AIDS, then it doesn’t matter what either Jim or I say. What matters is what YOU think about it, and what you do about the situation. MMS can help.

    Jim states what he’s seen with people dealing with AIDS. There is no dispute here.

    He has no reason to exaggerate any claims, when his protocol is proven itself to be effective for so many people as he said it would be.

    However, Jim knows, and has stated many times, that THE BODY heals itself, which I agree. I’ll go a step further to say that the body will heal itself IF the individual is committed to letting go of his or her disease. I’m not talking about viruses and bugs; I’m talking about attitudes, behaviors, and beliefs that don’t serve one’s best interests. This is not a moralistic observation. It’s about perceptions of power (or powerlessness), worthiness (or worthlessness), passion, and commitment to follow where the heart beckons.

    Believe it or not, everyone who says they want to be well, aren’t really ready to do so.

    Assuming that one is truly ready to be well again, and believes he or she *will* do it, MMS *will* reduce or remove many of the *pollutants* that compromise the body’s ability to heal.

    Jim also knows, and has stated that MMS the body needs key nutrients to repair itself, and that MMS is not a nutrient.

    A person with AIDS needs very specialized treatment, and no *one* thing that we know of is going to simply make it go away. However, MMS is one thing that can help.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  653. Peter

    Jim Humble claims that MMS CURES AIDS after people use it for long.
    He claims that people becone NEGATIVE after using MMS.
    However Adam says MMS DOES not cure HIV.
    Who is fooling who?
    If HIV is a virus like others, why cant MMS cure it as Jim claims but Adam disputes.
    I also have not seen a SINGLE testimonial of anybody getting CURED of HIV though Jim says people told him they became negatoive after taking MMS. Please Adam, can you clarify this point?
    Lastly, how long should somebody take MMS before he is CURED of HIV if infact it can CUE it.
    Thanks

  654. Iahaia

    Hi Adam,
    A number of people are worried that MMS might have an ageing effect? There’s so much hype about anti-oxidants, and here we’re using a GREAT OXIDANT! So if the chlorine dioxide grabs electrons from the pathogens and is destroyed in the process, do those electrons become free radicals?

    Many thanks for your great answers!

    Iahaia.

  655. P.

    Heey Chris,

    accidently kissed? haha funny one:)

    Well I hope MMS will solve your problem..
    I didnt knew oral herpes could be that painful
    Do keep us updated:)

    Regards,
    P

  656. CH

    Hi P,

    I have been taking MMS 15 x 2 for 30 days now trying to erradicate the HSV1 (oral herpes) which I accidentally caught in Feb 08 after being accidentally kissed by someone.

    There is no visible blisters, ulcers etc in my case but have been having pain on my lips, gums and neuralgia on my facial nerves almost non-stop since May 08.

    I will continue MMS for another 2 months to see what will be the results like….. it is really painful everyday….

    I hope that someone can find a way to get rid of this disease the soonest.

    You take care too.

    Regards,
    CH

  657. Clint

    eileen,

    If I may, I’d HIGHLY recommend taking the MSM
    (Methylsulfonylmethane) Powder … the sulphur mineral supplement ( 1/2 tsp 4x’s a day…with meals)

    This pretty much made my allergies go away !

    Also eliminating the mucous forming foods (flour products, ALL dairy food, etc…) needs to be considered.

    Also, making sure her colon is moving and cleaned out is a must…..as Colon and Lungs are related when treating each other.
    my 2c

    Clint

  658. eileen

    I have been taking mms for six months and sleep so good. At first i took it more now I only take it twice a week.

    I have a daughter who is 28 yrs old wiyh four miracle children. She has had four heart valve replacement surgeries. She has allergies very bad.

    When I take the supplement mms for my allergey symptons they leave. I so want to give the mms solution to her.

    With Jim’s understanding of the mms I hope that he could tell me if it would affect her valve that isn’t her’s. It is a pig valve.

    Hope you know about this. I want her to get some relief. She has been sleeping and breathing through her mouth as her head and nose are so conjested. She doesn’t like to take over the counter medicine but has been taking Afrin drops for three days and knows that isn’t going to help.

    Please respond asap. Thanks

  659. Clint

    Cassie,

    When I started taking MMS, I got OFF ALL vitamin supplements.. ALL !! I didn’t even want to have to wonder if anything was interfering with the MMS’s operation in the body.

    I feel people should cycle their vitamins anyway, and stay off them 2x’s a year and then re- introduce them to the body.

    The ONLY thing I take with MMS is MSM (yes, I know…same initials) MSM meaning the sulphur mineral Methylsulfonylmethane … I feel, and was told, that the MSM helps the MMS go to a deeper level in the body, cause it naturally opens up the Detoxification pathways in the body…as well as let the MMS in deeper.

    just my 2c,

    Clint

  660. P.

    Hi CH

    Thanks for the links
    I just came home from my holidays and the links made my mood:) I hope those medicins will come soon
    Are you using MMS? Or planning to?

    Take care
    P

  661. cassie

    To the lady with the swollen belly.

    If the enlarging has been slow (months), check your hormone levels.

    If it has happened quickly (days or weeks) consider a peritoneal infection. In women, cysts can develop on ovaries and rupture, causing an infection in the abdominal cavity. You almost feel like you are getting PMS with swollen and tender belly, possible pain at location of ovaries and even a back ache.

  662. cassie

    I have some questions about the function of MMS. I am not a scientist and need some scientific help figuring out some things.

    I have been taking MMS for more than a month at 15 drops per day. I have experienced a bit of loose stool, but nothing major. I have gotten no relief from my symptoms and I am trying to understand why.

    I know that vit C will neutralize the MMS. I take a multi-vitamin in the morning and the MMS at night. I also found vit C and ascorbic acid in several of the herbs I take, so I have switched them all to morning as well.

    Is it possible that this small amount of vit C in my system, even 12 hours later, is enough to neutralize the MMS? Here I am making an assumption. I am assuming that once the antioxidant has been absorbed, it is no longer an active agent against the MMS. That may not be a valid assumption.

    Which leads me to my next question: I also take a Glutathione support product. Glutathione regulates the antioxidant redox state, and allows the body to recycle its store of antioxidants including: vitamin A, C, E and Co-enzyme Q10. Glutathione is the antioxidant that is prevalent in every cell in the human body. Glutathione is primarily synthesized in the liver where it is abundantly present. Glutathione is a water soluble antioxidant, like vit C. It also has a very high electron donating capacity.

    All of this makes me think it would cancel the effects of MMS as does Vit C by donating electrons to the MMS. However, you body needs an abundance of Glutathione for the proper function of the brain, liver etc.

    Someone that understands Chemistry, please inform me in non-scientific terms

  663. d.d.red

    Julie…thanks for the referral to YouTube clip on MMS and Lyme. Now I do not feel quite as hopeless as i did prior to viewing this video.

    I have been thinking that the MMS is not doing all that much. It has cleared up my skin and lessened wrinkles…good for my vanity…but otherwise, I continue to react as I did when I started about 40 days ago.

    In fact, I have had to lessen the amount I take and sometimes skip a day because I have a stressful career and I must continue to function at a relatively high level a lot of the time.

    I sleep alot and I hardly socialize after work anymore because using MMS makes me weary. My level of pain has increased significantly which is not pleasant. I am wondering when it will begin to decrease again.

  664. CH

    Hi P,

    Thanks for your posting. I share the same view as yours.

    Pls find the following news link, a cure for herpes might be coming.

    http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1460794/cure_for_herpes_may_be_coming_soon/index.html

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/wireStory?id=5296774

    http://www.news-medical.net/?id=39717

    Thanks and take care!

  665. Michelle

    Well, I did the DMSO & molecula silver thing – and had a seriously bad reaction. The bumps spread 🙁 It’s awful and I wish I could get rid of this. I am heartbroken.

    One thing though.. the other day when I went to the store to buy juice for mixing MMS – because my gag reflex goes nuts when I even smell the other juice I’d been using – I noticed a clearance rack that had dramamine on it.

    Now I take the dramamine within a minute of taking the MMS and I’m able to do 12 or 13 drops twice a day – I could probably do it 3 times, but haven’t yet.

    You might think of doing this. I am not concerned about suppressing vomiting, because I just don’t throw up – even when I did 14 drops on an empty stomach, I just *felt* like throwing up but never could. So, I think this is a good thing for me.

    I’m definitely going to hit it at a higher dose over the next week and hope like hell that it does something.

    My results so far is that it has completely eradicated a candida infection I had for many years – that didn’t go away with anything else, including 6 weeks on diflucan and every herb imaginable.

    When I take a dose, soon after I feel a burning sensation in my spine. I know that a lot of viruses go dormant in the spine so I’m guessing that I’m killing something.

    I hope so 🙁 I’m getting tired of this one particular skin virus and I’d really like my immune system to be able to only focus on taking that one out. I guess it’s just got more important stuff to work on now.

    – Michelle

  666. Interesting site, more interesting is there is not an area to e-mail questions such as has any pre and post blood or urine been done on individuals who have taken this porduct to prove it’s efficacy. That is a simple test population. If the product is as good as stated let’s put it to the test. James Stivaly LMT

  667. P.

    Hi CH
    Thanks for the post
    Ofcourse these stories are encouraging:)
    But what bothers me about stories like this is that she mentions that the OUTBREAKS have stopped…this doesnt mean the virus is gone…
    Ofcourse having no outbreaks is wonderful but you can still pass the virus to others when it’s still in ur body whether you have outbreaks or not.
    I wish someone could figure a way to check if it’s really gone after using MMS

  668. Mari

    Michelle,

    Be careful when applying MMS topically. It was very helpful for a burn for me; however, my son applied it incorrectly and ended up with a chemical burn. Be sure you check Jim Humble’s book for the correct way to use it before going ahead.

  669. Michelle

    Nice comments CH 🙂

    Okay – this morning I used the DMSO gel (a 70% DMSO, 30% aloe blend) on deeply cleansed skin – I left it on for 3 minutes and then applied the molecula silver. Once that had dried out, I put on a layer of coconut oil (which is supposed to be useful for molluscum).

    Cross your fingers for me 😉 If this doesn’t work in a couple of days, I’ll switch to the same protocol using MMS instead of silver.

    Anyone have any better suggestions?

    thanks 🙂

  670. CH

    Hi Chris and P,

    I found the following posting at the following website and hope this is real and will encourage all of us.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319883/pg2

    // Quote //

    reply posted on 15-6-2008 @ 04:30 PM by Anonymous ATS

    Just as anecdotal evidence…

    My boyfriend has Herpes II, and took mms for 12 weeks. Before he had outbreaks once or twice a month. Since he started the mms (progressing from 1 to 5 drops, once a day), his symptoms have stopped. He stopped taking it over a month ago and hasn’t had an outbreak since.

    I took it for 8 weeks (working up to 11 drops twice a day) due to parasites (from living in SE asia). The problems I had from them seem to be resolved.

    I realize this isn’t valuable to those who insist on large clinical studies, so take it for what it’s worth to you…

    Also, you can go to http://www.curezone.com – they have a huge list that was very helpful to me.

    Sometimes the solutions are very simple. I fear that as a society we expect solutions to be complex and expensive, and especially we need an authority figure to tell us what to do with our own bodies.

    It’s YOUR body – you decide.

    Peace.

    // unquote//

    CH

  671. Clint

    Chris,

    I have read and that the longer a person has the Herpes virus, the longer you’ll need to get rid of it…as well as you might have to consider taking the MMS by IV to bypass the digestive system and go directly into the blood (as have it be a bigger force when it reached the blood)

    Michelle,

    The DMSO CAN burn, depending on what brand/kind your applying as well as what concentration you using.

    I use the ‘DMSO Gel’ in the Red label (which is 70% DMSO & 30% distilled Water)….. it still stings but leaves no marks. Its great.

    Google DMSO Gel, and you’ll find it.

    Clint

  672. Clint

    Chris,

    I have read and that the longer a person has the Herpes virus, the longer you’ll need to get rid of it…as well as you might have to consider taking the MMS by IV to bypass the digestive system and go directly into the blood (as have it be a bigger force when it reached the blood)

    Michelle,

    The DMSO CAN burn, depending on what brand/kind your applying as well as what concentration you using.

    I use the ‘DMSO Gel’ in the Red label (which is 70% DMSO & 30% distilled Water)…..

  673. Chris

    Michelle,

    Good for you for going gf years ago – wonder why your stomach is bloating?

    I pulled up my MMS ebook and read where it says that some severe herpes viruses might have to be treated for a few months and/or increase the dosage up to 25 drops. I had gone back to once a day maintainance but now think that I will just start over again and increase the drops until I do feel sick – I never did.

    Clint,

    I’ll also try using mms topically – I was very bummed as I thought that with the dose that I was taking, it would kill any virus internally….

    Thanks for your responses!

    Chris

  674. Michelle

    Does DMSO burn? I remember that my ex-bf got an (old) bottle from a friend and it burned his skin like crazy.

    Though I understand the DMSO concept (I actually have a book on MSM) – I’m a bit scared to put it on my more sensitive areas, which is where I’ve got some bumps. Specifically, I have some on my bosom. There’s some delicate skin there!

    Was my ex-bf burned because the bottle of DMSO was too old or is that to be expected?

    Thanks,
    – Michelle

  675. Clint

    Michelle,

    I have used 8 drops MMS to 40 drops Citric Acid..let it sit 3 min., then apply with your fingertips to the affected area and let it do it’s work for a couple of hours.

    This stuff WILL kill anything on your skin, and make it inert… I Would advise getting some DMSO Gel and applying that FIRST before you put the MMS solution on, making your skin more receptive to the Chlorine Dioxide. (let that stuff sit 5 min, then apply MMS)

    Good luck,

    Clint

  676. Michelle

    Chris –

    Well, I’ve been on the GF diet for over 3 years now so I don’t think that’s it 😉

    As for the herpes virus breakouts – I’ve read (and heard from many people while managing health food stores) that taking a tablespoon (or 3!) a day of coconut oil eliminates outbreaks. You might check it out. I’m not a big fan of taking the oil directly but if you mix in a little cocoa & sugar (or xylitol!) with coconut oil – it’s a yummy chocolate milk! 🙂 And since I’m a huge fan of tasty medicine.. 😉 Also, look into red marine algae (gigartina). And for hepatitis – himalaya livercare!!!!!!! (see one of my previous posts for a link to their research).

    I’m trying to heal my overtox’d liver with the livercare formula but have become addicted to the MMS because of what it has done for my skin! If nothing else – my skin looks unbelievable – it is smoother than I’ve ever seen it before and the skin on my cheeks feels kind of thick (in a healthy baby sort of way). I love it! Of course, the MMS smell totally nauseates me so that part sucks – and I can’t get myself to do it more than once a day 🙁

    I got so wicked sick with the MMS that one day that it threw me back a lot. I know that I need to up the dosage (I’m at 12 drops *once* a day) but – damn.

    My skin virus is still kicking! (molluscum) Does anyone know how to use MMS topically? On the bottle that I have, it says *not* to use it topically – but in other forums I’ve read that people have used it topically with great success.

    Please advise 🙂

    Thank you! 🙂

    — Michelle

  677. Chris

    MMS so far for me has done nothing unless I have been taking it the wrong way.

    I had posted on numerous forums and have not heard back from anyone. My doctor’s office is of no use – they’re still not sure how to use it.

    I had worked my way up to 15 drops 3x a day with no reaction. I stayed on this dose for about 10 days then read somewhere that for someone my size, (5’4″ – 113), the dose is way too high.

    Went down to twice daily dose of 5 drops then down to one dose. Then just to once a week, which I am on now.

    Currently, I am undergoing the worst HHV2 breakout in two years. Thought that it worked with herpes viruses.

    Now, I don’t know what to do – I had posted about hep-c and my 6 HHV infections – and like I said, it has not helped me at all – UNLESS I have done something wrong or that it does not work for me.

    Bummer.

    Nola Chris

  678. Chris

    To Michelle,

    Same thing happened to me last year – was finally tested for celiac disease and went on gluten-free diet. Stomach bloating went away.

    Chris

  679. Payno

    Hi,

    Please advixe if MMS can be taken alongside chemotherapy or would these 2 treatments clash. Oncologist advised that no treatments which enhances oestrogen should be used.

    Thanks

  680. Clint

    Great Michelle,

    Am glad your getting good results…I do feel it’s a great product.

    Wanted to also say, that if I were to put the Silver on my skin, was curious if you ever tried using DMSO first (on the skin) and let the pores and cells open wide up to welcome the Silver into that area of the skin…it does seem to be many more times effective
    (as well as taking MSM powder orally)

    Here’s where I bought it:
    www dot ihealthtree dot com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-2oz.html

    Good luck

    Clint

  681. Matt

    thanks clint, look foward to trying it. indeed its a big experiment.

    the depressing thing is that if the world wasn’t so corrupt these ‘cures’ that actually work would be that much further developed and in all likelyhood, nobody would suffer from obscure, ‘incurable’ diseases ;(

    thank god for the internet though!

    by the way has anyone tried teaga/tiaga tea? it’s supposedly the strongest immune modulator out there. i’ve been trying it and it does seem to fire up your immune system massively. bit of an odd indicator but my hair has noticably sprouted back on the ends of my eyebrows since starting on it! i don’t know why but its certainly a sign of much better health in some way or another!

    its not great for autoimmune conditions as they may flare up but these killer/regenerative cells it stimulates can be benificial for certain conditions. there’s all kinds of miracle testimonies for it, mostly for cancer.

    and there’s another item called taurox i’ve dabbled with a little – its a hi-tech immune modulating molecule marketed as a homeopathic remedy. supposed to be good at balancing the immune system when parts of it are over and under-active. most testimonies seem to centre around its ability to give with chronic-fatigue type symptons a lot more energy.

    hope thats useful in some way. later 🙂

  682. Michelle

    Clint

    Hey, I wanted to tell you that I put the molecula on my skin virus topically (twice a day, 2 days now) and I appear to be healing! 🙂 Yay!

    I don’t know if this is because of the silver or the 3,000 other things that I’m doing – but I noticed a *huge* difference since I used the silver!

    Thanks for the suggestion 🙂

  683. Clint

    Hi Matt,

    I Like the Silver I’m taking (The Molecula) …it’s the smallest particles (of Silver) I have seen yet, and feel it is a lot better than the other brands I have taken in the past.

    I am going to soon be taking MMS by IV and am ordering the needles and bags for this…

    In Jim’s video, he sais clearly that the MMS by passes the digestive process, and gets deeper into the system…

    It’s all an experiment anyway…and all we each can do is share our experiences and learn from each other.

    C

  684. Matt

    oh yeah and if clint is reading – i ordered some of that silver stuff to give a spin – any experiences with it?

  685. Matt

    the bloating sounds like a build up of wind (can be caused by parasites/die off gases) but i’m just guessing and its probably not if your not passing large amounts of wind frequently. mms is strongly anti-parasitic – parasites/parasite cells are killed by the high levels of oxygen.

    for myself i am going to go onto an anti-parasite formula (a natural product called paratrex looks like the best one) as well as experimenting with highish doses of mms. i have also been using a product called coloson which is gentle, light colonic formula that breaks down junk in the intestinal tract using magnesium oxides. might be helpful.

    interestingly i don’t think the mms was very useful at getting to the deep down and dirty stuff in my stomach at lower doses. its only today with my first higher dose (11 drops) that i’ve started to get ‘unusual’ diarrhea. i reckon taking it on an empty stomach first and last thing (and maybe with a small top-up dose shortly after the first one) is more effective – although some people can’t handle this.

    my associated headaches also tend to be helped by taking iron tablets so something is clearly interfering with the oxygen supply getting pumped up to my brain sufficiently. however, i suspect that its not a result of the mms but a result of what is being killed off. a blocked stomach induces nasty headaches too though. confusing!

    the average person would say to be trying all this stuff is ridicolous and risky – but i’ve made may more progress toward an overall diagnosis and solution than conventional doctors ever could.

    the consultant urologist didn’t even entertain the idea that my chronic prostatitis could be due to anything other than a one-time infection (which it obviously wasn’t) or ‘autoimmunity’ – which might be partly correct, but i think its wise to be very sceptical of that label, especially as there’s no proper explanation of the cause or a cure.

    i’d wager a large proportion of autoimmune conditions may be due to an immune reaction – but the reaction is to something tangible, not just something that randomly appears and dissapears and the body is left in this state of confusion indefinitely. there has to be some kind of stealth pathogens or parasites involved, especially in my case, as when i take mms my skin reaction/inflammation noticably decreases.

    i’m sure a lot of people with chronic illness would rather be dead than without hope so i’m doing everything in my power to combat these problems now it’s come to a head.

    peace.

  686. Michelle

    Matt –

    Good points. Lately I’ve been considering purchasing a parasite formula. But.. is MMS anti-parasitic?

    My stomach is getting huge. I am not a big girl – even with the abdominal distension I’m a size 6 (okay, maybe close to an 8 when it’s really big!) – but.. honestly, I am looking totally out of proportion right now.

    I seriously look pregnant! I’m pretty sure that’s not possible right now! And it wouldn’t be immaculate conception because I don’t even go to church ];)

  687. Matt

    I have started my MMS experiment recently and it’s been both encouraging/worrying. I have obviously seen many doctors about my problems to no avail – the first and probably least harmful being an ‘incurcable’ autoimmune skin condition.

    Encouraging because it instantly helped a number of my sympstons. Worrying because I have new symptons and I may be getting closer to what the root of all my health problems might be, and it aint very pretty.

    The post above me mentions about a distended stomach. I thought that was interesting because as I took more and more MMS i got headaches and had one really bad bout of constipation recently. Now i’m sure I have thyroid issues too but the constipation didn’t completely clear when I opened up again (or so it seems) and the right side of my stomach seems to be blocked/distended/painful and I’m on a lot of laxatives right now.

    Having been off the MMS for a while I’m back on it and it’s been easier – I’ve have been able to get to the 10 drop mark today. Well, it’s definitely stirring some stuff up, bad diarrhea that is definitely not usual diarrhea and some nasty stuff beng expelled with it.

    To cut a very long story short, taking MMS has been bringing me closer and closer to a conclusion that the root of all my health problems is due to some kind of horrible intestinal parasites. I would bet this is also the root the problem for a lot of people with multiple health issues.

    My explosion of symptons in the past 9 months has external factors too but I believe the same root ‘problem’ to have caused my 5 year skin disease. I also believe that there might be something truly horrific in my stomach that the MMS has clearly had an effect on but not killed yet.

    I am going to keep the same kind of tolerable dosage while it is blasting away at stuff/things and see what happens for now. The question is whether my stomach blockage is just remaining faecel matter or if there is something more sinister going on down there – stirred up by the MMS usage.

  688. Michelle

    Can anyone tell me why my stomach is growing more and more distended every day? 🙁 I haven’t changed my eating habits at all and started taking a laxative formula a couple of days ago. Help!

  689. Michelle

    p.s. Thank you for your thoughts!! 🙂

  690. Michelle

    Dearest Clint,

    I think that I’m going to work on my liver first (and once my previous comment passes the moderator, you’ll see how 😉 )

    I think Sandra Kabot (sp?) says it best…

    “Although it is important to keep the intestines moving regularly and to sweep their walls with high fiber and living foods, it is important to remember that the bowels are really a channel of elimination and not a cleansing organ per se. In other words the bowels cannot cleanse, filter or remove toxic wastes from the bloodstream.”

    As you so clearly indicated – there’ probably a lot of toxins in me that need to be wiped out! I’m taking some mineral/herbal laxatives to keep things moving – but I think I’d be wasting those capsules if I wasn’t working on the liver at the same time 😉

    I’m sure that MMS kills a lot of nasty stuff (viruses, etc.) but I want to make sure that once it’s done it’s job – the rest of my body can help to facilitate the healing process 🙂

    And, yes, probiotics are always great! Good call!

  691. Clint

    Gotta get the “pipes” clean Michelle….don’t mean to preach… but it’s a given in order to heal properly.

    Of course getting in some Pro-Biotics for the colon is a must as well…..

    I know your fighting the good fight..

    😉

  692. Michelle

    Oh, and about the colonics – I had one last year after doing a “master cleanse” (which effectively destroyed my metabolism, damn it!) – and it didn’t seem to make a lot of difference.

    I’m a recovering born-again-college-student and have little cash to invest in colonics right now anyway. Perhaps in a while..

  693. Michelle

    Clint,

    You know.. as luck would have it… I actually have a bottle of the molecula silver right here! 😉

    For some reason, I haven’t (really) taken it. I’ve put a bit (1-2 tsp) under my tongue and left it there for a minute – but I haven’t really gotten into it.

    As I ordered a package of the MMS (from the site you suggested, actually), I thought “what the hell” and picked the one with the silver.

    I have tried colloidal silver before though and haven’t gotten much out of it. What led me to do so was this.. http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1.htm

    I managed health food stores for about 3 years and am pretty up on the whole alternative healthcare deal 😉

    Perhaps the reason I haven’t taken the silver is because it’s in a little 8 serving bottle – and with 2 servings/day, that wont last long! I’m not exactly sure that 4 days of silver would do anything at all. Know what I’m sayin?

    Recently I’ve thrown some new stuff into the MMS mix: Himalaya LiverCare and Himalaya HemoCare (Blood purification). I think that you are absolutely right about dumping toxins and these two products should help me to do that a little more smoothly. (BTW – for research on Himalaya products: http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/researchpaper/liv52.htm )

    You might notice that I prefer to take things that have peer reviewed publications behind them 😉

    Anyway – can you please tell me where I can find out *more* about the molecula silver? Right now all I’m finding is “This stuff works!” – rather than “This stuff works by…” and “The way to take this is..”

    Your advice is deeply appreciated 🙂 Thank you!

    – Michelle

    p.s. Check out those links! Especially the silver one!

  694. Clint

    Michelle,

    Have you considered taking the ‘Molecula Silver’ ?…along WITH the MMS ?

    Your right, your do have a lot going on in that body of yours, ad it might be a while til your over the hump of the huge dumping of toxins and virals.

    Here’s the link for the Silver:

    http://www.clo2plus.com/

    P.S.
    Have you had a few colonics to clean your colon out?

    Clint

  695. Michelle

    Oops – the above comment was meant to say that “most claim that it is GENETIC”

    I’m sure the genetic factor has something to do with it – but I would think that it would be more of a weakness to a virus than the actual cause of the disease.

  696. Michelle

    Thanks for your input Clint 🙂

    The strange thing is though.. that I had been taking 14 drops once or twice a day for over a week with no intense response – so for it to happen all of the sudden just doesn’t make much sense to me.

    My body does have a lot going on though! I have celiac disease, osteoporosis (prob. due to celiac), and a fun case of molluscum (a self-limiting viral skin condition – that I think has been limited by MMS! Yay!). Plus I have *lots* of food allergies (dairy, eggs, sesame, rice protein..)

    My goal with MMS is to get my immune system to work properly again (celiac is autoimmune). I (personally) believe that celiac is caused by a virus they haven’t figured out yet. Most claim that it is viral but I have read hundreds of medical journals on the subject and the two genes they have linked to celiac are present in 30% of the population while only 1% has celiac. Seems pretty weak to me!

    Another thing… since January my tongue has had an odd yellow/orange tint to it – which freaks me out and makes me worry about my liver. If anyone has any idea what might cause this – I’d love to hear it.

    Thanks to all for sharing your experiences and advice! 🙂

    – Michelle

    p.s. Only 35 years of toxins 😉

  697. Thanks Clint, I’ll try that!

  698. Clint

    Michelle,

    There is a reason that the directions say, “start with 1-2 drops, and work a drop at a time”….. you skipped ahead, and are now paying the price.

    Your body never had a chance to dump toxins at the rate that IT was accustomed to, instead….you chose to put the detox process on fast-forward.

    Think of it this way…. your body/system has accumulated 20, 30, maybe 40 years worth of toxin’s (depending on how old you are)…. your system just can’t dump all those layers of junk in say 2 weeks, just because you get impatient and decide to jump the drops up and get immediate results.

    The Body is ALWAYS right… be patient.

    My suggestion might be to wait a few weeks, then start back at 4 drops, and work your way back, increasing a drop a day at a time.

    Be drinking LOTS of water to be sure your giving toxins a path to travel out of your body…and your diet needs to be good.

    good luck,

    Clint

  699. Michelle

    Hi there. I am a bit concerned about MMS! I received the MMS & citric acid solution about two weeks ago and have taken MMS (almost) daily. I ramped up the dose fairly quickly because I hadn’t felt any effects after 7 drops so I was at 12 within a few days. I have generally only taken this once or twice a day. The first major reaction was diarrhea complete with a mad headache – which I’ve experienced before as a herx response. Thereafter, I had a few instances of burning sensations in the base of my spine. I also had a wild experience of crazy images flashing through my mind before crashing hard into sleep (at a time when I wasn’t tired at all).

    This is all cool and I’m down with it 😉

    However! The other day I took 14 drops on an empty stomach in the morning (7:30) and I had wicked diarrhea until about 8:30 that night. It was ridiculous – I could not leave the bathroom for more than 15 minutes – and I did not have anything to eat all day. I also had really intense pain and stomach cramping all day long. The following day my stomach still hurt (even without any MMS). And basically – all of this has scared me more than a little bit!

    So.. two days later, I want to take the MMS but I don’t want to cause any permanent damage – and I’m still experiencing a bit of nausea.

    Anyone have any suggestions?

    Thanks for any input! 🙂

  700. Clint

    You might try using Lemon as an activator…. and…..

    still using ONLY one drop of MMS – to 5 drops of Lemon….. wait 3 min, add 4 oz. of juice of your choice….then, split that volume in HALF…..so your actually taking only 1/2 a drop (so, your drinking 2 oz. of juice)

    Have the above 5 hours after a meal, or in the evening time before you go to bed…. and think good thoughts…. 😉

    Clint

  701. No, I’m not kidding. I was a bit nervous just before taking so I’m starting to think i was more of a psychological reaction but if anyone can give me some advice it would be great.

  702. Clint

    Tom,

    You have to be kidding…. 1 drop ???

  703. Hi everybody, I recently ordered some mms to boost my health. I don’t have any disease that I know of. So a few days ago I added 5 drops of citric acid to one drop of MMS, waited the 3 minutes and added the water. I didn’t want to drink it all at once so I just started to sip, after about half an hour and half of the mixture, my heartbeat became really rapid and my pupils were dilated, I was really scared and after about an hour I drank a lot of orange juice to counter act the mms. Any one else had this reaction? For a few days after this, I have had a kind of funny feeling in my head, I call it ‘swimmy head’. Can anyone give me some advice. Was it a panic attack?

  704. Julie

    Hi d.d.red. Sorry this post is so much later than yours, but I haven’t been to this site in a while…. Last night, my husband and I were trying to get more information on Lyme and MMS for someone, when we came upon a series of YouTube videos posted by a 33 year-old American. He talks about his experiences and reactions to the MMS protocol, and I think you might find it very interesting. Try finding him at http://www.youtube.com/user/theincrediblejy We found the site by Google-ing Lyme disease and MMS, and going to his”MMS Vs. Lyme” Blog. Best of luck with your treatments!

  705. Jim Humble has known me for years, and I’d like to hear back from him. Jim, look at http://www.kcby.com click on the news at noon button, then about 5 names down the left side.
    David

  706. P.

    Hi Adam,

    Thanks for helping
    It’s encouraging to hear you say that MMS can remove herpes
    It would also help a lot if someone could give some more information on how to rid the virus, for example to combine something with MMS…
    just like how jenny explained on how to treat hepB..

    Anyone?

    Regards P.

  707. CH

    Hi Jenny,

    Thanks for your posting on Hep.B. I think you had mistaken me as “concernedfriend” which had made further questions on Hep b protocol. Nonetheless, thanks!

    CH

  708. jenny

    Hi CH,
    The hep B virus is difficult to fight thats why you need MMS injection, Ozone, Immunoglobins injection(vac for hepB) and the vitamins to completely remove the virus for a chronic hepatitis B.
    Acute infection of hepatitis B only need intravenous Vitamin C and immune booster(interferon) or lactofferin to clear the virus.

  709. jenny

    Hi CH,
    What is your viral load of hepatitis B and your blood test result. With IV injection of MMS. Because you have chronic hepatitis B you need the IV injection that work fast. You add six to eight drops of MMS into a sodium chloride solution/normal saline. You need a GP to supervise. While taking MMS injection two times a week for two months depends on your viral load use Vitamin E, C, B12, folic acid. If it is possible Ozonate all your drinking water. Ozone inactivate hep. B virus.
    IV injection of chlorine dioxide work to attack the hep. B virus, even if the virus build a resistance. The whole world cannot cure hepatitis B virus because many GP stop the treatment due to side effects and the virus multiply when they stop the treatment. You have to keep on having the injection until blood test showed negative hep B. When you feel sick about the injection take MMS orally may be ten to fifteen drops a day. At the end of the second month you need to take immunoglobins injection(vac for hepB virus). While the MMS attack the hep B virus, Ozone inactivates and support the MMS to kill the hep B virus in the body. Immunoglobin and vitamins boost your immune system(T cells) to fight the virus. The virus has no place to hide and they will all die. You cant get this information anywhere in the world.
    Do all this and if you test negative to hep B virus after two to three months I will like you to send an email to me on yemi4444@justice.com. 100% guarantee.

    jenny

    jenny

    jenny

  710. John

    I took mms for about a week before doing a liver flush. I believe it was really helpful.

    I just broke a 40 day master cleanse fast yesterday and feel amazing!!!

    Would highly recommend it to help clean out toxins in the colon, intestines, liver, kidneys etc. Info here.

    http://www.therawfoodsite.com/mastercleanse.htm

    John

  711. Hi All,
    Just wondered if You people at MMS supplies where donating chemicals to the massive clean up in USA from flood damage thought it would be a great display of humanitarianism.

    I do know Australia has so just wondered hope your all getting better Mike from CZ

  712. concernedfriend

    Hi Jenny,

    Thanks so much for the informations…

    I have some more questions to ask — how does an IV injection work, what is the protocol to follow? What is the formula and proportion used?

    Again, in behalf of my friend, many many thanks.

  713. CH

    Thanks Jenny! I will see how it goes… thanks again.

  714. jenny

    Hi CH,
    I dont know about herpes HSV 1 & 2? Try the MMS and see how u go. I heard MMS is good on herpes virus.

  715. CH

    Hi Jenny,

    It is interesting and encouraging to see your posting on curing Hep B. Do you have any idea on curing Herpes HSV1 & 2? Thanks.

  716. jenny

    HI ba,
    IV injection of MMS work faster to fight the hep B virus. Sometimes the virus build resistance which is easily overcome by intravenous chlorine dioxide. Your friend need a GP like me to supervise the IV INJECTION. Immunoglobins injection(vaccination for Hep B) IS IMPORTANT TOO AND THE VITAMINS.
    GOOD LUCK

    JENNY

  717. jenny

    Hi BA,
    Hepatitis B is easy to cure using MMS combine with ozone. At the same time your friend need to use Vitamin B12, E, Vitamin C, folic acid, Zinc. Within three months your friend will test negative to hepatitis B.
    Chronic hepatitis B will need to have IV injection of MMS two times a week for one month to remove the virus completely. Most people use Ozone as well. Ask him to use the vitamins above and ask him to go to GP and have immunoglobins injection(vaccination for Hep B). This is a complete cure.

  718. concernedfriend

    I have a friend who had been diagnosed to be hepatitis b carrier since 1991. Despite the diagnosis, he did not get himself treated as he never felt any symptoms. It was only this year that the symptoms surfaced such as dull pain on the right side of the abdomen, jaundiced skin ( more visible on the hands and legs), ascites, bloating. etc…

    I read about the MMS and told my friend that this might just work for him. He was very excited about this and he can’t wait to try it.

    Adam, (or anyone that has the info/answer for this)

    He wants to know what vitamin and mineral supplements he needs to take while taking the MMS.

    Your advice will be much appreciated.

    BA

  719. jared

    looks like femas going to force everyone to take vaccinations.
    -http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/240506femaplan.htm

  720. Chris

    Well, this is day 7 of my 15 drops x75 – three times a day. I never have felt sick but I’ve noticed that I’ve been pretty wired up the last few days – I just feel like I’m detoxing bigtime and am a bit jittery. But not bad – I went on a 3 mile walk yesterday – I find that walking/exercising helps with that detox feeling…..

    I’m not sure what to do – from what I understand, I’m to stay on this (15 drops) for “about a week” and then drop back down to a smaller dose.

    I read in the part 2 ebook, that for hepatitis, it’s pretty much the same – it did say to increase the dose if I was still feeling bad. But I don’t really feel bad – I’ve just never gotten sick from the stuff.

    Do you have to get sick to know that it is working? Should I increase the dose?

    Meanwhile, Adam, or anyone who might know, please advise me on this. I was going to take it at the current dose for another day or so and then drop back down unless anyone knows something different…?

    Thanks!

    Chris

  721. P.

    MMS can help remove more than Herpes. It only removes items — viruses, bacteria, heavy metal deposits, etc. — that do your body harm, so the name is meaningless.

    You have very little to gain by not using it, and much to gain by experiencing for yourself how it effects *you*!

    Whatever your decision, best of health to you.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  722. D.D.RED…

    Thank you for sharing! I trust that you will continue to follow your body’s guidance in how to get to, and reduce the Lyme presence within it. Patience and forbearance will be your closest allies in this most personal of journeys.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  723. Abraham,

    Thank you for sharing your experience. It sounds like your body has indeed achieved a major release of, and reduction in toxicity.

    Others have expressed sensitivity to the smell (which can be pretty intense)… but like you, their determination to rid themselves of the pathogens was greater than the aversion to the smell. Haven’t heard any tidbits to pass along there.

    You may have to take solace in the memory of all the toxicity that your body was carrying prior to the cancer’s emergence, and confidence that you will not allow that to happen again. Cancer cannot flourish in an alkaline environment, and you now have an effective way to reduce acidity.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  724. Craig,

    That’s a new one for me. What I’ve heard is the opposite. In fact, there is one company whose toothpaste generates chlorine dioxide. It kills bacteria and whitens the teeth too. I would suggest that you consider brushing your teeth specifically with the MMS after activating, and see if that helps. Let us know what happens.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  725. Dear Adam or anyone else,

    Have you ever heard of anyone taking MMS having their teeth become discolored? I have been taking MMS for about a month and my teeth have become noticeably yellowish. I am taking 15 drops twice a day in citric acid and I feel like it is really helping me.

    With Gratitude,
    Craig Oster

  726. abraham

    Hi Adam and all,
    Like to thank you and john for lengthy response and words of encouragement after my last post. It definitely help me in my MMS journey for my parotid gland cancer cure. as told earlier, there was no effect on me at all till 6 drops, 2wice a day. Then i quickly increased to 8,10,15,20 still twice/day. 1st day of 20 drops i started feeling lousy and mild diahrria, 2nd day 20 drops, more diahrria plus little nausea then on 3rd and 4th day of 20 drops, i had real bad time with diahria and nausea. i was completely knock out almost all the time in washroom. then amazingly on 5th onward i was completely OK. Then continued with 20 drops twice a day for next 1 week without any problem. After 1 week I then drop to 6 drops/day till now (in 3rd week of 6/day).
    Now some questions…
    1. Does my experience with MMS above indicate that i am done and could now go to maintenance dosage scheme? What is recommended dosage? i am 49 year old and 80kg..
    2. the smell is REAL bad, i almost gave up due to smell and diahria and nausea but the smell was the worst of all. All the juice in supermarket include added vitamin C which is not recommended. Is there any other way?
    3. I understand from my Dr and Oncologist that there is no such cancer marker for my type of parotid gland cancer (ie Mucoepidermoid carcinoma), any body here has got any experience on how to monitor. Soon i hope, i should be on regular maintenance MMS dosages, how do we sort of know that cancer is being taken care of by MMS?

    Again thanks everyone for kind words, experience sharing and helps.

    best wishes

  727. d.d.red

    My daughter has a friend who used this to cure malaria after traveling abroad. I have personally met this woman. She lives in Canada.

    She became aware that I had Lyme disease at 26 years old (I am now 53 Years old) and was never treated. I have some health problems that may be caused by Lyme disease. She suggested MMS may eliminate Lyme disease.

    I am fortunate because I can stop in a shop and buy this in my city. I am impressed that it is sold at such a small price as compared to herbal remedies. According to my North American income, the cost of MMS is negligible which makes it even easier to try it.

    I have been using MMS for about 3 weeks. I have never experienced nausea from it, but I do get really tired and I have diarrhea. I am taking 15 drops once a day. I am not planning to increase to twice a day because I work long hours in a stressful profession and I absolutely have to be functional during the day.

    I wish I could say I have had great success so far but I have not. My joint pain immediately increased and as mentioned, I am tired a lot. However, I know something is happening because friends who see me about once a week have remarked that my skin looks terrific! Since I see myself daily in the mirror, I have not noticed this improvement myself.

    I am committed to maintaining the present dosage for at least 3 months. Humble says even a few drops will work and that Lyme disease is extremely difficult to eradicate. I will reassess at 3 months to see how it is going and I would be pleased to keep you abreast of the results.

    In the meantime, 3 of my friends have started using MMS. One of these was getting a nasty cold just as he started MMS and he states it eradicated the cold within HOURS. I have emailed Humble’s book part I to several people, including my 78 year old mother.

    I purchased Humbles book part II and consider the cost to be a small contribution to the betterment of malaria victims worldwide. After all, it was a malaria victim – now cured – who passed the knowledge to me.

  728. P.

    Hi Chris

    I also have herpes but am not using MMS yet
    Im trying to find out if MMS can remove the virus completely out of our body’s and how can we be sure if they are gone?
    I would like to know what your doctor says about this?

    Thanks for sharing

  729. Chris

    Hi,

    I posted this elsewhere, but this site seems to be pretty positive and a bit more active.

    “I also have hep-c as well as CMV, EBV, HHV-1&2, zoster and HHV-6. Also have a low level mycoplasma. I am now on my 3rd day of 15 drops taken 3 times a day.

    I’ve been taking it slow – starting 2 weeks ago with 1/2 a drop. I’d just had a minor shingles outbreak at the base of my spine (where all herpes viruses lay dormant) and the night following my first dose, I soaked my bedsheets. I had a backache for a few days but I continued to gradually increase the dose. I haven’t had any noticeable problems – no nausea or vomiting. (yet…)

    I also chose not to undertake the current hep-c treatment. I’m genotype 1b and had very little damage on my 2003 biopsy – I’ve probably had the virus for 35 years. I take a huge amount of supplements, primarily milk thistle, ALA, NAC and a host of others.

    I’ve been on a gluten-free diet for the last 5 months and it was a great help! No more IBD or stomach bloating and my fibromyalgia/chemical sensitivy is much reduced. I also eat lots of veggies and fruits, though I’ve eliminated any vitamin c while I’m taking mms at 3 times a day.

    My liver function tests are pretty good but my ALT/AST are slightly elevated. My viral load is fairly low. (at last test anyway..) However, my herpes viruses are going wild – despite Valtrex, Lysine, and Olive leaf extract.

    So, my great new doctor suggested MMS and here I am. I had my mercury amalgams removed earlier this year and have been on chlorella and chelaco for chelation – my doc thinks that it will be easier on my liver to do it the oral chelation way.

    I told her that I’d be a willing guinea pig for mms, lol, so I will update here again on my progress.

    From what I understand, I am to remain on the 15 drops three times a day for a week or so and then go to a lower dose afterwards. Or, I am supposed to increase the number of drops if I don’t feel any response?

    Anyway, so far, so good……..

    Thanks for your help!

    Nola Chris

  730. sharly

    Hi Adam,
    I have been using MMS now since last month about two weeks ago each time I use MMS before I sleep and when I wake up in the morning I normally feel pain in my liver area which is resolved after I woke up three hurs later. Can I know why I feel the pain.
    Thanks

    Sharly

  731. John

    Hi Adam,
    Can you tell me how to use MMS by injection. I need to know because I dont understand if to mix six to eight drops of sodium chlorite or a mixture of sodium chlorite and citric acid with 20mL of sterile injection(sodium chloride solution) and for how long.
    Thanks

    John

  732. CH

    Hi Adam

    Thanks for your great job to help all of us.

    I wonder can anyone share his/her opinion on P’s post dated on the 10 May as follows :

    //QT //

    Hi Adam,

    I would like to thank you for your advice and trying to help us out.

    The problem is, I hardly get any outbreaks. The thing I am worried about is spreading the virus. So I don’t just want to eliminate outbreaks I want to eliminate the virus.
    Im trying to figure out what my chances are. So the questuion is, can MMS reach the nerves and take it out?

    I did lots of research, but since english is a foreign language to me (im from Holland) and I don’t know much about medicins It’s quite didfficult for me to understand all of it. That’s why I’m asking you.

    Best regards
    P

    ////

    I think many of us would like to know whether can HSV virus which hide itself in the nerves roots be eliminated by Chlorine dioxide.

    Thanks in advance for sharing. Many thanks!

    CH

  733. Clint

    Hi John,

    I agree, one really does have to pay attention to their body when taking this stuff, and trying to Heal in general.

    I believe also that you have to be the kind of person that really wants to get well, and not be the type that needs to take things that taste good, or smell good…and if it doesn’t, just toss it aside…. that ain’t gonna work with the MMS !

    I listen to the little voice in my head as my muscle test… it speaks to me very lound n clear.

    🙂

    Clint

  734. Hey Clint,

    I can assure you – the lime juice ‘version’ is more than potent enough for me!! If I ever get as high as 15 drops 3x a day I might consider your point, but I’m sure I’ll be doing just fine!

    Incidentally for M.E./Chronic Fatigue sufferers (I used to have M.E. and thought I’d pretty much got over it years ago), this what I’ve noticed:

    I’ve had three waves of getting ‘full-blown’ symptoms coming back. First after hitting about 12 drops, then slowly working back up to about 8 and recently back to 5. Counter-intuitive, I know, but my constant experience is that thresholds are getting reached for release and it’s like I’m more sensitive, OR that the higher dose ‘loosend up’ the toxins and they are just waiting to be ‘pushed over the edge’ to be released.

    Once I get a release (i.e. I feel ill/toxic again) I back off right down to zero for a day or two or three and STILL I can feel the effects persisting.

    Once I’m back to feeling well again (and I have been feeling MUCH BETTER than in years in between these bouts) I work up again, and maybe quite fast too.

    I’m looking forward to reporting back here with the all clear / full dose having been achieved!

    The muscle testing has really helped with determining how far to cut back and how quickly to move up again – but I think if you just go with the ‘just knowing’ and erring on the side of caution, the whole process is manageable (i.e. no need to be in a rush)

  735. Clint

    Thanks for the info John.
    I do wonder though, that if your activating it with Lime Juice, are you getting the full potency you need/want in the final MMS solution ?

    To me, if I am to take the MMS for any reason, I would think that you’d want to activate it with the strongest activator….no ?
    (which would be Citric Acid)

    Just my thoughts,

    Clint

  736. Clint,

    I have it ‘straight’ with the 1:5 lime juice and it really tastes not so bad to me (diluted with water), but I tried it with Citric Acid the other day and found it absolutely disgusting – best I can describe is that it was like ‘drinking’ my chemistry lab at school.
    Yuck – never again!!!
    I stick with yummy lime, thank you.
    (and larger doses, just drink it with more water..)
    John

  737. Clint

    I must say, you guys who are drinking it “Straight” have some serious Balls !!

    I have been taking the MMS now for 3 months, and could not even conceive of taking it with water…. it was seriously gag me. I use ‘Lakewood’ brand, Organic Pineapple Juice (nuthing but Pineapple juice)…and it’s bearable.

    I am about to experiment with with taking the MMS via enema as per Jim and Adam’s suggestions, and see how that works out. I would think that by passing the entire digestive tract, and having it enter my system via the colon would be way more effective and less nauseating.

    Clint

  738. Julie

    Hi Janey – I would suggest no added Vitamin C and also low vit C levels…ie. Orange juice is a no-no, even though it has no added vitamin C. My husband and I found organic apple cider worked well, and I have also heard about the pomegranate juice. Actually, now, we just mix it with water only, and chase it down with another glass of water – if you breathe through your mouth only during the whole process, it’s not too bad 🙂

    Good luck !

  739. Janey

    My first order should arrive tomorrow. I am aware that we should not use juice with vitamin c to mix with the solution. Is that added Vit C or should we select a juice with naturally low vit c levels?

    On another forum pomegranate juice was recommended. I found some that is 100% juice – no added sugars or vitamins. Also – not from concentrate. Will this be ok?

    Any other suggestions are welcome.

  740. Clare

    John, thanks so much for your response to my last post. I have gone to 3 drops every second day and will start every day again soon, feeling much better now. Must say I have a problem with the smell in the glass!!! think I am drinking pure bleach until I actually drink it, I take it with water not juice.How wonderful so many are getting such fantastic results.
    Love and light to all
    Clare

  741. Sharon

    I am wondering if anyone has been on the mms for MS. I just started taking Rebif for a week now and am considering stopping and start the mms

    Thank you

  742. After realising a bad tooth ache was affecting a molar one evening, I read from page 17 of Vol 2 that 6 drops with 1/4 teaspoon of vinegar should be used to brush with daily. I did this that night and woke up feeling a little better but the pain was definitely still there.
    So I measured out another dose, brushed and rinsed the teeth strongly with half and swallowed the other half. Lots of water followed.
    This was because I thought the MMS might not have access to the infection within the tooth, so an attack from within might help.
    Did it again that night, but experienced some mild diarrhoea the next day with lethargy. Continued the same twice daily for another day, also with mild diarrhoea and lethargy, then cut down to one dose at night for two nights, rinsing strongly and swallowing the other half.
    Pain has gone, gums normal, no diarrhoea and energy levels normal again.
    Thanks Jim and also you Adam.

  743. henry

    Hi all,
    MMS is amazing I use ten drops of MMS on my sore throat and tongue sore two days later it dissapear. This is great.

  744. yemi

    Hi Adam,
    Anytime I take MMS I normally sleep very well. I have noticed this for the past two months now. Thanks to Jim humble.

  745. Julie

    Well I wish you nothing but success with your MMS journey – just take it slow and steady…I would be very surprised if it did not improve your health in a measurable way. Sweet dreams!

  746. Janey

    Thanks Julie – I am not taking any medication. It is a last resort for me. I mainly ordered the mms to clear up candida and parasites and I was just hoping it would help some of the other health problems I have. It would be wonderful to be able to sleep normal hours. If I don’t take any meds like unisom or tylenol pm I will be awake until noon tomorrow.

    I feel so bad for your stepsister. Insomnia is just hideous. I am not working right now so I can sleep whenever I want – but I need to get a job soon and I want to deal with it without pharma meds. I will let you know how the mms affects my sleep patterns and hormonal imbalances.

  747. Julie

    Janey – I am wondering if you are currently taking any thyroid medications? My stepsister is taking a prescribed drug for her thyroid and has been complaining about insomnia. When I researched the drug, insomnia was one of the prominent side effects. In any case, I find that MMS does give me a much deeper sleep (I normally sleep well anyways). My in-laws, who DID have trouble sleeping, are now sleeping better than they have in years since taking MMS. Good luck, and please keep your results posted here – I would love to report back to my stepsister, since she is leary of trying the MMS, despite our encouragement.

  748. Gnosis

    Hi, thanks for the info on MMS. I activate mine with organic apple cider vinegar and it works. I activate with a 1:1 ratio.

    But it tastes horrible and I feel like I am being poisoned so I am glad I read your blog and will stick with it longer because I can see it is the resident poisons that are making me feel nauseated.

    I do not have thyroid and I take glandular extracts to make up for the missing thyroid. I also take selenium and CalMag in powder form.

    Okay, we will continue the protocol. How long usually must one stay on MMS before the body is cleared?

    About mercury, I removed a lot of mercury from my husband’s body using liquid zeolite. Liquid zeolite is sold by an MLM-based company called Waiora. I don’t know anyone else who sells it, but it removes a lot of heavy metals, but it is not as cheap as MMS.

    Thank you again for providing this blog on MMS.

  749. Janey

    Hi everyone- I just placed my first order of mms. Can anyone tell me if you have heard of anyone having success with insomnia & hormonal imbalances caused by pituitary and thyroid problems? Thanks!

  750. Hi Clare,

    Youi may not be alone in this. I was feeling really great after some obvious detoxing. Then as I started to come back up (only about 5 drops, I think) I hit the wall, and have felt just like you describe: terrible, no energy confused, and constant mild tummy upset, no nausea. Also, a sore liver all week.

    My partner’s the same: several days of sludge-like feeling in veins, aching kidneys (probably overloaded by toxins) and now swollen lymph nodes in neck too… and all while not taking much at all – a few drops once a day and none for a couple of days, now.

    It really does feel like a toxic load has been released, or is being released naturally, long after the ClO2 has dissipated, and the body’s just catching up!

    We’re running on faith here! Only the fact I DID feel better than in years before THIS bout, is what’s keeping me going, I think! It really does feel like poison swilling around – so it’s gotta be better out than in!!!

    Well, it seems a very inconvenient time to feel under par, but when I come thorough it all clean and clear again, I’m sure I’ll say it’s all been worth it 🙂

    Powerful stuff, this ClO2!!

    Warmest
    John

  751. jared

    I had 26 drops last night and felt like i had the hang over from hell but next day feel fine that wa the first time i had that much that was in accordance to 3 drops per 25 ponds of weight which converts to 11 kg i’m 97 kg so it converted to 26 drops i’m sure i could feel it coursing thru my veins. just confirming what would my maintenance dose be? 15 drops?

  752. Clare

    It is now 14 days since I had my last MMS and I am still feeling terrible, no energy confused, and constant mild nausea, I do have kidney problems, have been diagnosed as a “stone maker”, constant small readings of blood in my urine but kidneys ok on x ray some years ago. Could this be the cause of my nausea? a kidney blockage? I had such a horrible reaction to 15 drops I am frightened to try again just yet, even 3 drops.
    Thank you so much for this wonderful resource Adam, it is very comforting to know people are there to help
    Clare

  753. Rohan

    All the post here had been helping in some way or other. It is clear that some days with the same drops that you had yesterday you may become sick of diahrria, vomiting kind of feeling,lack of appetite, abdominal pain, joint pain(one or a combination of these).
    I was particularly been attracted by the post above, which gives the freedom to chose the number of drops(keeping it one up everytime in a manner to reach 15 ASAP will make you leave the thing in first place).

    And teh other posts of Adam himself. On the intensity of drops and how often they should be administered daily, how to adjust them to suit your lifestyle etc etc……they all had been really helpful.

    Now I am on 6 drops twice a day and is planning to countinue on it for some time. This is not making me sick. If possible someday sometime I will reach 15 X 3.

    I am taking a short break from the discussions.
    Before that thanks a lot to Adam, Jim, and all those who gave their valuable suggestions.

    Catch up with you later…
    Rohan.

  754. Adam,

    I so much agree with your well expressed partnership with our body. We have come from a ‘prescription culture’ where have been taught to give our power to others to prescribe for us because they “must know so much better.”

    But MMS is intriguing because it really forces us to take control of our own prescribing by teaching us to listen to our own needs.

    I suspect that many have started MMS and dropped off because they tried to stick to the prescribed MMS protocol too rigidly!

    Here’s another way to listen to your own body’s needs:
    Ask (or get someone to ask you) – “How many drops is best to take at this time?”
    Allow an answer to arise from a sense of knowing. Usually the first one is best, before our logical mind tries to analyse it!
    If the answer is – “I don’t know,” use the clever fall-back of: “I know you don’t know, but if you DID know, how many would it be?” (this takes the pressure off the logical mind having to get the correct answer, and releases the intuition to have a good guess! Works like a charm almost every time!)
    If the answer is: “I don’t know,” simply repeat the question: “I know you don’t know, but if you DID know, how many would it be?”

    Don’t forget you can modify your question according to your needs, such as:
    “How many drops is it best to take at this time so that I can achieve the most detoxing without risking any tummy upsets or nausea during this important meeting I have today?”

    Your body really DOES appear to know the answers to these specific questions – very clever, eh?

  755. Greetings Abraham,

    Every individual will have both their own *unique* experience with MMS, and common experiences. The common experiences include the reactions that go with releasing pathogen toxicity, such as nausea, diarrhea, or in some cases, vomiting. Other less common, but still shared physiological experiences include headaches, sinus drainage, fatigue.

    The unique experience comes out of how these shared experiences manifest *for you*… when, and how mild or intense they will be.

    So… I know of several people who had cancer, who went far beyond 15 drops before they experienced any kind of release whatsoever.

    One man… with prostate cancer… had progressed to 16 drops, with no results. After some meditation wherein he asked guidance from his body, he went directly to 32 drops. Three days later, he had a major release of toxicity. Now he listens to his body. I believe he is doing 6 drops a day now.

    Seeing and treating your body as a partner in the restoration of your physical health is an important aspect of said restoration. It KNOWS what it needs, and WHERE it’s needed. All you have to do is learn to form the right questions and TRUST the answers that you receive.

    There are reasons the lack of response… for example, blockages in the kidney, liver, or other parts of the body, that have to be worked through before the MMS can be more freely distributed and do major oxidation.

    I wouldn’t worry about what to do if you get to 15 drops and nothing has happened. Stay present here, now, today, this moment. BE present. There’s much that can happen between now and then that you may otherwise miss.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  756. Hi Rohan,

    I am an advocate of understanding *why* we’re doing something, *what* our objectives are, and should reasonably be expected, and listening to the feedback that our body gives. As such, the operative word in your question to me, is “necessary”.

    I wouldn’t feel it *necessary* to do that. Yet, if you did, you wouldn’t experience any reaction, such as nausea or diarrhea, because you would have sufficiently restored balance in your system and there would basically be for the chlorine dioxide to oxidize.

    If you find that you’re experiencing no nausea or diarrhea at a lower drop level, and all else is fine with your health, then adjust your intake amount and frequency as you see fit.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  757. Rohan

    Hello Adam,

    For one with no critical illness, is it necessary to reach the 15 drops three times a day dosage?

    Or is it ok if I be on the maintainance mode of 6 drops twice a week?

    Thanks,
    Rohan

  758. abraham

    Hi Adam,
    Thanks for great work done advising people here on administration of MMS. This site provide invaluable growing list of testimony that will benefit people like me a great deal.
    As for my case, i have been diagnosed with parotid gland cancer (Mucoepidermoid carcinoma – 2nd stage) has since undergone parotidectomy with clear margin established). I have come to know about MMS and got hold of one bottle from one of Jim’s suppliers to try.
    I have started with 1 drop /twice a day and have since increased to 7 drops twice a day (now on 7th day). My question is …i have yet to feel nausea as suggested by Jim. Is it normal? Should i continue increasing to 15 drops. What if at 15 drops, still no sign of nausea, what do i do.

    Appreciate your advise
    regards Abraham

  759. Clare,

    That’s no fun! But remember, the toxicity that was eliminated is no longer in your body. I had a similar experience — diarrhea and very emphatic — vomiting at just 5 drops… stepped back a few days, then went up again. I’ve never had that particular reaction again.

    You can adjust the number, frequency, and timing of drops that you take as it suits you and your lifestyle.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  760. Clare

    Greetings to all from Australia. I had a horrible reaction when I got to 10 drops!!! projectile vomiting and had to go to bed. Dropped back to 8 drops the next day and no reaction, much better!! no diarrhea until the next morning. Can i stay at 8 drops or should i continue to increase every day again? I really cant deal with the vomiting as I have to work. Also noticed that I feel very “strange” in the head on even a few drops. Also can I just do it once a day or is it vital that I have 2 doses daily?I am a great grandmother and work from home doing market research via the computer so cant just stop talking to people to go and throw up which I had to do last week.Love and light to all who are striving to get their health back.

  761. Howie,

    You just reclaimed your power by accepting responsibility for your attitude and changing it. Be prepared for your life turning in a new direction.

    TRUST your body’s guidance and follow it. No one is exempted from the power to heal. Most of us simply refuse to allow it.

    Giving safe harbor to negative attitudes and beliefs only maintains the stress that make us fertile soil for disease. By being, or becoming our best, we give the best outcomes the power, and reason to unfold.

    If you can yet be your best when the worst is happening, then you show yourself ready to handle the best with humility and grace.

    All the best to you,

    Adam…

  762. Howie

    I want to apologize to all here for my rude behaviour, I am dealing with a very frustrating situation with my health and my life in general right now.

    Adam, I have taken it down starting at 8 drops twice a day now and will go from there.

    namaste,,

    Howie

  763. rohan

    Hi Adam,

    In Jim’s book he says MMS will work (chemically react) with stainless steel.
    Will this be a problem when taking MMS intravenously?
    Will it work with the Injection needle as well?

    Regards,
    Rohn

  764. Charlie,

    John nailed it, as he also described my situation with MMS… when I experienced a major toxin dump (diarrhea and vomiting) after 5 drops, and numerous what I’ll call “radical” bowel movements (like giving birth to rocks) thereafter.

    It is amazing the stuff we carry in our bodies, and continue to “press on” while the body slowly breaks down. It’s even more amazing to see how the body stops “breaking down” and even begins repairing itself (when proper natural vitamin and mineral nutrients are replenished) after the toxin, pathogen, and parasitic load has been removed.

    Here is another article I wrote on the same subject, which reiterates some of the same points that John made (thank you John!).

    http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/mms-and-prostate-cancer-context-change-woo-woo-and-common-sense/

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  765. Charlie,

    YES YES absolutely what you describe is very familiar to us!

    It IS hard to describe, but you did well!

    It sounds ominous, but as I see it, you have been poisoned, not by MMS, but the toxins that have been stored in your body for so long.

    The rapid release is tough for the body to deal with, but it does its own good job, given time, and if there’s no life-threatening condition, it makes sense to regulate the release to a rate you can comfortably deal with, even if it’s down to 0 or 1 for a day or two.

    We thought we were pretty toxin free, but how wrong – we’ve collected SO much of the decades.

    Sometimes, as it’s releasing, it’s hard to believe that you accumulated so much and it must be the MMS that’s poisoning you. The trick is not to give up, but cut back to give time to recover the release of toxins. After a big release, we can feel the effects for a few days, even if we stop MMS for a while.

    Eventually, you WILL feel the difference; well I have anyway – utterly incredible how I’ve regained long lost youthful vigour, skin tone, clarity of mind, creative flow again.

    I’m CONVINCED the toxins were suppressing all those, even though I would not have described myself as a sick person before!

    Hang in there – it just seems to get better and better, ‘miraculous’ even, even though it’s really ‘just good chemistry’!

    And let us know how you get on….

  766. Charlie

    Hello Adam:

    I came across your blog and have been reading most all the entries. I came across MMS about a year ago, and bought several bottles. I figured I would use it to keep myself in a healthy mode. upon taking it (with vinegar), at about 10 drops, I got nauseated, and stayed that way the entire day, in bed. The following day, I decided to take it a night. WHen I awoke the following morning, I was quite disorientated, and couldn’t stand without feeling the sensation of dizziness. I was not able to go to work. SO, my question to you is this disorientated feeling, including my mind jumping about (not sure how to explain it).. has anyone had a similar experience?

    Charlie

  767. P.

    Hi Adam,

    I would like to thank you for your advice and trying to help us out.

    The problem is, I hardly get any outbreaks. The thing I am worried about is spreading the virus. So I don’t just want to eliminate outbreaks I want to eliminate the virus.
    Im trying to figure out what my chances are. So the questuion is, can MMS reach the nerves and take it out?

    I did lots of research, but since english is a foreign language to me (im from Holland) and I don’t know much about medicins It’s quite didfficult for me to understand all of it. That’s why I’m asking you.

    Best regards
    P

  768. jared

    hi all
    my mother has diabetes i have had her on mms for in total about two weeks on and off jut recently she told me that her doctor said it was unusual but the insulin intake was uniformly decreasing we are both excited with this result.
    i have also had a old friend who i have got taking mms at 15 drops now!
    Who had prostate cancer now recently he told me the doctors found bone cancer so i have already got him taking the mms and he will go to this retreat (alternative-cancer-care.com)who are doing a observational study on mms i also said in an email to him to combine with colonic irrigation and lots of organic veg juice and
    far infrared saunaing i just want to say that i really love seeing all the great infomation being shared here amongst intellgent well informed people you really dont need a phd to know the truth as a matter of fact it probably makes you more myopic in your view.
    Also having alot of success getting the word out there to other blog sites on health .
    I was wanting to bye the bulk amounts soon too, i want to put money into getting mms into africa and is there anyone else thats going to be doing this sort thing so i can ad in my contribution…

  769. yemi

    Hi Adam,
    Please we all love you keep on. You are doing a wonderful job. Please dont listen to Howie or Bruce this two guys are big fool and trying to cause a lot of problems/conflicting issue.
    Adam, you are a wonderful man. We all appreciate how you answer everyone question in this forum.
    A very big thanks to Adam.

    Thanks very much, we love you.

  770. yemi

    Hey Howie and Bruce,
    Howie is a very rude guy. Bruce is a big fool as well who has created this forum to create a lot of conflicting issue. Does anyone know where Howie and bruce or whatever his name came from.
    Bruce, I never want you to die it is a hyperbole, I wonder you that do not understand simple English claim to expose MMS. When millions of people are using MMS all over the world. I look at the website you claim expose MMS and some of the information there a lot of people are still claiming MMS cure there diseases.
    Bruce, most people believe you dont know what you are talking about and a lot are still using MMS right now thats why I called you a fool.

    yemi

  771. Makxxx Russell

    I am a firm beliver in the detoxing properties of sodium chlorite having started on high doses myself and having amazing results and cleansing reactions. My skin cleared up after about ten days ,I have much more endurance and energy and have not been sick since. However I wonder why the word miricle is in any way assoicated with anything that obviously can be explained and backed up with science, and who came up with the title? I often find that when I tell my educated friends to look up miricle minral supplemet, they instanaly shut down as the word miricle usally relates to something that cannot be scientifically confirmed and has many religous implications. If the people who came up with the name are serious about healing the masses. I think it needs a more approiate common name.
    Please dont confuse important facts with fantasy.

  772. Rohan

    Seems taking some deep breath after having MMS(not right after….but after some time1-2 hrs like that) is reducing the nausea feeling.
    I don’t know whether this is scientifically correct.
    but works well when I was on a 12+ drops twice a day.

  773. Bruce

    Yemi, you poor exscuse for a human being, wishing death on people is the reason you take MMS.
    Some thing came back and bit you.
    I wish you a long and painfull life, where do you come from, what type of tree.
    You speak like you know Jim, I hope you do.
    By the way did MMS fix that hair problem on your back!
    You must have hated being called yetti!

  774. Howie,

    Doesn’t feel to me that you need to start from scratch, just dial it down and find a tolerable point to work from. You will find that what elicits nausea today may not do so tomorrow. Once the toxins from one bout of nausea or diarrhea have been removed, they are OUT of the system. So any new nausea or diarrhea is from new pockets that have been encountered.

    You are on a “search and eliminate” mission. That is what the chlorine dioxide is doing. It feels TERRIBLE while the release is happening, but the pathogens were robbing you of vitality while you didn’t even know it. When they are gone, you’ll have more YOU — energy — available to apply to the life you want to, and are now ready to live.

    You’re taking positive steps Howie. The liver flush will be a good thing.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  775. Hi Charlie,

    I’m not sure what conventional medicine might appeal to you, but my bias will always be to the approach that works, causing the least amount of harm, whether it’s a conventional approach, or not.

    In my most recent recorded conversation with Jim Humble, he mentioned that people have reported great success using enemas with activated MMS. There would be no conflict to do this in conjunction with oral intake. However, you should ask YOUR BODY for its recommendation. Read John Jamison’s comments above about muscle testing.

    One of the beauties of this protocol is that it isn’t antagonistic against healthy microorganisms or body tissues, but oxidizes harmful ones, such as mucous (biofilm) which is formed and then colonized by certain microorganisms, which *protect* them from antibiotics. Chlorine dioxide oxidizes first the biofilm, then the microorganism colonies.

    I believe you are correct about the chemotherapy too, as well as MMS removing the residue.

    Spend time to thank your cellular consciousness population — there are TRILLIONS — of them, for looking out for you. Promise to consult them from now on about what is in your body’s best interest, SEE yourself well and going THE LIFE YOUR HEART WANTS TO LIVE, and KNOW that the power to do so is already within you.

    Think of the great story you are writing for yourself, and the many minds and hearts that you will touch POSITIVELY through your success.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  776. Rohan

    Hello Adam,
    Is there any chance that the level of oxygen available to the body muscles becomes lower when being on a MMS protocol.

    Why I am asking is because of the following incident.
    I took 12 drops in the morning, 12 drops around 5pm in the evening. Then went for jogging in the nearby park. I was very tired after 4-5kms. This is something which don’t normally happen to me. I was able to cover around 7km without any tiredness.
    This made me think of a possibility. As Jim says, the red blood cells can’t differentiate between Oxygen and Chlorine Dioxide. So when I am taking MMS, obviously Chlorine dioxide too would be picked up. My thinking is this. If a particular areas was in need of say 10 oxygen parts, when on MMS, it will get 9 oxygen and one Chlorine dioxide and this lack of oxygen causing the illeffects when one lacks the presence of O2.

    This is just my way of reasoning.
    Would this be a possiblity of tiredness.

    Need your advice.

    Anyway I am on my protocol today had 13 in the morning and will take 12 drops in the late evening.
    I know having faith in the medicine will help a lot, but the oxygen-clO2 thinking just came out to me and seems reasonablel, that is why posted here.

    Regards,
    Rohan.

  777. Hi Adam,

    I’m honoured that you’re going to watch our little, but powerful, movie. It’s kind of my life’s work (in a first draft format); very avant-garde. To really ‘get’ The Omega Shift, one needs both an open mind and heart, and I know you have both. I love your easy, but incisive, radio show style; it’s an inspiration as we are about to start our own show on TalkShoe.

    Your show with Rupert Sheldrake on Consciousness was GREAT (http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/568/33/), and I’m itching to join in such discussions, encouraging them on to the next level (actually our show is called The Next Level! http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/14399).

    So, I (or we) would be delighted to chat with you about The Omega Shift and taking the ‘nature and burgeoning science of consciousness’ on to the next level (and even how MMS etc fit in) on air, (or off air). We feel it holds a message whose time has now come, or is coming, as there has recently been a new flurry of new interest in it; such as on the ‘Abraham’ forum http://www.abetalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=292&p=2522#p2522

    And, you’ll find there’s an ‘Adam’ in the movie too!

    Thanks again for your great dedication to these noble causes.

    Warmest

    John
    http://www.TheOmegaShift.com (for a daring metaphysical movie on how we co-create our realities together, out of our own Consciousness)

  778. Howie

    Adam,

    Should I start all over ..? I was doing 15 drops twice a day but was constantly nauseous and had diarrhea,
    So I went to only 15 drops per day at night before I went to bed.
    What do you think, also I am going to try some liver flushes..I was impressed with that video..

    Howie

  779. Charlie

    Hello,

    My name is Charlie and i recently came upon MMS via curezone. I was recently diagnosed with Hodgkins lymphoma in November of 2006. I have been in remission since June of 2007. I did 6 rounds of chemo. I should also note that I have Left sided ulcerative colitis and suspect that it had something to do with the development of Hodgkins Lymphoma.

    I have not entirely given up on conventional medicine as i feel both alternative and conventional have there strengths and weakness.
    MMS seems really promising. My health objective is all preventative at this point in my life. If treatment cannot be aimed at the cause of the illness than I am generally not interested because it will not help in the long run.

    I plan to use this MMS, possibly as an enema
    for the Ulcerative colitis, any recommendations?
    If i choose the Enema should i also take the MMS orally? I feel that the chemo must have elminated every bad and good thing in my body, do you think this is true? I am thinking MMS would be beneficial in eradicating any leftover chemo in my body.

    I am only 29 and jealous of everyone my age that seems to live a carefree life. For lack of better words, it BLOWS!

    Look forward to your constructive response.

    -charlie 🙂

  780. Hey man,

    I understand, but don’t be discouraged by it… I’d be encouraged by the movement that I saw. It’s very likely that once one level of “dross” had been cleared away, that another was encountered, which now is being cleared away.

    It took time for this condition to evolve, it’ll take time for it to devolve, once you know that YOU have the power to heal, and that the tool that you’ve chosen, can get the job done.

    You’ll be okay, and you can beat this.

    Persevere.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  781. Howie

    Adam..
    I guess I am just a bit disappointed because I was taking it and it seemed things were getting better, I mean I almost felt as if I was healed, I was even going to post some weeks back saying I think I had slayed the dragon, then it came back gradually…
    And I felt let down…

    I’m sorry for being such a bitch, I’m just very frustrated…

    Howie

  782. Howie,

    I used YOUR words… you said that I was “blaming” the patient with such “airy fairy BS” as attitude.

    If you’ve read anything else that I’ve written, you’ll see it clearly stated that MMS is NOT a cure all, that the individual is a more important factor than the modality. But then, the individual would have to look at self, take stock of their attitude and beliefs, grudges, prejudices, and skewed perceptions that are not serving them in a healthy way.

    There is plenty of science to corroborate these statements if you’re willing to look.

    As for documentation, there’s plenty of it right here on this blog, if you want to look at it. If that was of interest, you not continue trying to make a case for my defensiveness, when in fact, I’m simply replying to your questions.

    When people have difficulty and are not seeing results, it’s EXACTLY when they should look within. It’s exactly why they are not seeing results. They think the answer is outside themselves, and they agree to some of the most barbaric practices on the possibility that they’ll be helped, when some self-understanding, tolerance, patience and forgiveness, would go far.

    Intolerance, disrespect, prejudice, judgment, et al, all stimulate physiological reactions within the body, all the way down to the chromosomal level. Negative attitudes create stress on the body that constricts the flow of energy into the cells, and eventually causes systems to break down. Harmonious ones restore the flow, allowing health to return (i.e., healing).

    I don’t need to “prove” that flu-like symptoms are the result of toxins being flushed out. I have spoken to enough people who experienced them before they “got well,” and read other places that have said the same thing. Ultimately, if you have Hep C, the only person you need to prove anything to, is yourself.

    Nothing that I or anyone else says to you will supersede your own opinions about what “works,” and what does not. That is why others are getting over Hepatitis, because they are committed to doing it, and they KNOW that THEY can, and will overcome. They are not wasting energy trying to get assurances from others, when they now know it for themselves.

    I’ve been into airy fairy BS philosophy for over 25 years of this life.

    Adam…

  783. Howie

    Adam,

    Who is blaming anyone here? I am just saying you seem to get defensive when someone says hey this is not working according to the description given by you and Humble.

    How MMS is described to work is not like a crystal or a shaman doing spell work..

    I have been into alternative healing, Meditation, Yoga, herbs, ayurveda since I was in my early 20’s

    I am 53 now, so please don’t patronize me with the heal yourself brother rap after you and Mr Humble have clearly stated over and over again that MMS is a cure all for so many types of illnesses hands down in action=reaction, E=mc² terms, but now after people say hey, I’m not getting well and having some problems you go into this, “It’s all about your attitude jargon”, you seem to be backpedaling or as I said being defensive.

    Humble says clearly that MMS cures HEP C and you said you have read about some who “Stuck’ with it that were, can you show me who those people are, is this documented?

    Every time someone asks to be given names of someone who has been cured, it is shoo shooed away, “Oh no one would want to do that” or something else”, I disagree.

    Most people out there who cleared Hep C or AIDS with MMS you better believe they would stand up and shout it from the roof tops!!!!

    My problem is when people have difficulty and not seeing results you say it goes back to them and frankly this is NOT the way Humble conveyed MMS in his book.

    Also Let me ask you, what proof do you have that when people get flu like symptoms from taking MMS that they are flushing out toxins?

    You seem rather a newbie in the holistic scene, how long you been involved with MMS, since sept 07..? What were you into before?

    Howie

  784. Hi Rohan,

    Many people report experiencing such things as joint pain, flu-like symptoms, and sometimes lethargy (lack of energy) when taking MMS. It’s not so much that the chlorine dioxide “causes” these responses, but it is more likely the effect of reaching and oxidizing pathogens.

    When the pathogens are flushed from the system, they also report feeling energized in ways they forgot they were capable of being.

    The body tends to repair itself while we sleep. As such, a feeling of lethargy could be another sign of the body’s readiness to repair what *had been* compromised by former pathogens, now oxidized.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  785. Rohan

    Hi Adam,

    is joint pain(mostly on the leg, calf) part of taking MMS?

    I stopped taking MMS for two days because I was not feeling good, and was not in a mood to take any food.
    Now again I started taking it again from yesterday(this time tried a ready made apple juice available in the market-in the ingredients list, no Vitamin C was found- taking the apple juice(not chilled) was itself not very good. thought of something else to mask the smell of apple juice)
    Had taken one more dose today morning. By evening I was feeling quite tired and have pain on the joints.

    Is this natural? perhaps some symbol of body asking for more rests?

    Thanks for your support and answers,
    Rohan.

  786. Howie,

    Because you don’t believe — or respect — my point of view doesn’t mean that it’s wrong. Simply its truth won’t work FOR YOU. I find it curious that you’d ask for advice from someone you have such little respect for, when in fact, the answer is within you.

    You think of it as “blame” when I suggest looking within, when in fact, I’m directing you to where the source resides that actually fixes our problems. I point you to your power, which at present, you’re letting someone or something else control because you don’t think you have any, and something or someone else is “to blame.”

    Keep looking elsewhere (outside yourself) if you like. You’ve got an eternity of pain and suffering to go through until you change your mind (and heart).

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  787. John,

    Never a need to apologize. The length and the wisdom of your response is JUST RIGHT!

    Thank you for your insights!

    I’m going to watch your movie, and then perhaps we can discuss it on Talk for Food.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  788. Sun

    Hey Howie,

    Why do you feel the need to be so rude?

    Is it your liver that’s making you so antagonistic?

    Liverish: Having a disagreeable disposition; irritable.

    Sun

  789. Howie

    Is this Liver Cleanse ok for people with Hep C whose livers are inflamed to begin with..?

    Please don’t tell me you don’t know.

    Howie

  790. Howie

    Adam,
    You are completely wrong here, I never said the PAIN was due to the MMS, how uneducated of you. Pain in the upper left quadrant is a common symptom of Hep C, and I had it long before I started taking MMS..
    So here you go again being defensive about MMS and anyone who doubts.
    You and Humble claim it is a cure all for so many things like Hep C, AIDS etc. but when it does not work, you put the blame on the patient saying some airy fairy BS like it’s all in my attitude..
    You should learn a bit about the diseases you claim this will cure, because not knowing makes you look like a fanatic.

  791. Adam

    I am SO impressed by the effort you spend answering people on this blog!

    And from 4.30am too – that’s dedication.

    On behalf of us ALL… Thank You!!!

    Three cheers for Adam!! Hip hip….. Horaay!! 🙂

    By the way, I always used to always be up at 5 am, happy and energetic, but it had waned away over the years: far too groggy and tired to get up before 7 or 8 am. But, thanks to MMS (and I still can’t tolerate higher doses yet) I’m fully awake up at 5am again – what a gift. AND much clearer mentally during the day.

    Adam, this will be new to you too, then, – the blue/green colour of my partner’s skin lasted a few hours, but now, get this… all her skin has been smelling DISTINCTLY of aluminium for the last day (like an old aluminium pot!!!) Also, her normally clear, radiant skin has got a grey palour to it. This is incredible – and, for us, proof positive that old toxic stuff is coming up and being expelled (she’s 48, but it was in her childhood that she last ate a lot of food cooked in aluminium pots!). Normally very fit, she’s been tired, cold, dizzy and couldn’t focus mentally as it has been coming out. Now she’s looking and feeling a lot better again.

    What a coincidence you’re having David Hawkins on. I read your great post on muscle testing:
    http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/04/06/thoughts-on-peace-consciousness-observation-inner-truth-and-its-amplification/
    and also the very negative responses by ‘Fred’ under, ironically, your post on Power of Love:
    http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/thoughts-on-love-the-greatest-power/

    We have had extremely helpful input from muscle testing; here is an example of how we do it:
    If we know the last dose was 7 drops say, we’ll simply test for “6 drops is the best dose”, “True”, and “7 drops..” “True”, “8 drops…” “True”,. If none come in strong, then rather than test every single number, we say: “5 drops or below is the best dose”, if that’s strong, the “2 drops or below”, and if that’s weak, try for 3, 4 and 5 drops. Sometimes it’s gone down to zero when our bodies need time to process/release what’s been already dislodged: for me, even for a couple of days while I recover!
    Also, to start with, and from time to time, we ask questions like: “I know the answer to how many drops to take and I’m willing to give accurate answers through this muscle testing”

    And it’s good to note a couple of our learning points:
    1) You have to state your question exactly right as the ‘body’ gives very literal answers. E.g. you might get a higher answer when you test: “This is the BEST dose for me to take now to have most beneficial effect ” and end up with a lower number testing for “This is the OPTIMAL dose for me to take now to have most beneficial effect, but without undue discomfort.” And then your idea of undue discomfort may be different from your body’s! So, if you again qualify it with: “that is, with no stomach cramps, nausea, diarrhoea or tiredness that would impair my ability to work today”, you may come up with a yet lower dose.
    2) If there is any ambiguity in your question, you may get unclear answers. For example, “This is the best dose for me” may give inconclusive answers as there’s no time element, whereas: “This is the best dose for me to take NOW”, will probably get clear answers. Every time you are getting unclear or variable answers, check ambiguity in your question, and ask in a different or more specific way.
    3) If you don’t really want to know the answer to a question, you’ll get uncertain or misleading results. An obvious example would be if you start asking about your inner “life plan” when, really you don’t want to know about it, so the answer may be inconsistent, wrong or even be like leading you up the garden path, as if your body has its own ‘sense of humour’! However, it may be that there are parts of you that don’t actually WANT to get well yet, and so it is good to ask questions like this too: “I actually DO want to get detoxed, fit and well, as soon as possible (without undue discomfort), with no reservation” “True” and you might be surprised by not getting a clear, strong response. Then you’d have to investigate why and fix it in whatever way suits you.
    4) We never RELY on the answers, only use them as input to our own decisions; for that would be to disempower ourselves too much to an ‘external agency’, rather than becoming more self-reliant. Actually, we use it to help tune in to what we already know without having to muscle test. We have found before, that becoming overly reliant on muscle testing can also cause problems with the answers; almost as if it’s teaching us a lesson!
    5) The state of the person testing can lead to inaccurate results, particularly if they have self-confidence issues, say. They need to feel clear and strong in themselves.
    6) We usually ask the questions blind, that is, the questioner will hold the number in their mind and simply say: “This is the correct number of drops” and the test subject will say “this is True” even though they are not conscious of what number they are being tested for. Then we will ask with several different numbers, randomly, and check that only the SAME answer comes up 2 or 3 times strong and the rest weak before divuldging what the actual number is. This always works unerringly, unless one of the above points are in play!

    So, overall, Adam, we treat the muscle testing as if talking to an intelligent, conscious being, and do it with respect and love. And so here’s my response to Fred’s ‘double-blind’ objections. Anything psychic or woo-woo tends NOT to do well in strict lab/ test conditions, because (just one reason) the conditions are unnatural and there’s no good reason to give correct results, and you can get even ‘petulant’ answers. At worst, it could be compared to sitting someone down in a lab to test for Love and saying to the subject, “Right, I want you to now fall in love with me!” And so proving love at first sight does not exist.

    Sorry it’s long, hope it helps

    John
    http://www.TheOmegaShift.com (for a daring metaphysical movie on how we co-create our realities together)

  792. John

    Howie said
    “My liver is still in pain and have been using this for a while now..for a while I thought is was clearing up, I almost thought I was cured, but then it all came back..
    I had to cut back to only 15 drops at night before bed as I was in a constant state of nausea”
    —————————————-

    You may also find this helpful

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIPsyOUf_Jc

  793. Olive,

    YOUR BODY will tell you how much IT needs to do what you’re asking. If you’re not feeling anything yet (it’s only been 3 drops), then continue adding drops.

    Maintain the dialog with your body, as it will guide you through the dosing maize in the best what that serves both IT and YOU.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  794. Rohan,

    The MMS solution is naturally clear prior to activation, and turns yellow as it generates after you have added the activator.

    So it sounds to me like you have a properly formulated sample. You are to wait at least 3 minutes while the chlorine dioxide generates after adding the activator. If it was not yellow by then, then I’d question the formulation.

    Although it will work, I would suggest using vinegar as a LAST OPTION.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  795. Howie,

    If your liver is in pain it is because YOU… and your body, have some form of blockage in that area, which is presently being “worked on.”

    YOU are choosing to interpret that pain as having been “caused” by MMS. An equally valid way to interpret it is that the chlorine dioxide is doing what it does, meaning releasing toxicity, which now must work their way through the blocked, restricted area that is presently YOUR liver. Your being in a constant state of nausea is additional indication of the DEGREE to which you have been, and ARE YET STILL toxic, BUT are now in the process of RELEASING said toxicity, which IS a very UNPLEASANT experience.

    Yet, in spite of the WONDERFUL process that IS happening with you, you express YOUR doubts and call me defensive.

    I have nothing to defend, neither my opinion, nor MMS. I want YOU to be healthy as MUCH as I want ME to be. I also KNOW that *doubt* or *inner conflict* ABOUT WHATEVER WE FOCUS OUR THOUGHTS ON CONSTRICTS the flow of energy through our system. It causes INNER STRESS THAT, DUE TO THE MIXED SIGNALS THAT *WE* ARE MAINTAINING, RETARDS THE BODY’S ABILITY TO HEAL.

    It has been scientifically observed and proven that chromosomes and DNA actually change shape, into a tighter coil when we PUT OURSELVES under stress. (See Gregg Braden’s The Divine Matrix.) You’re doing that to yourself. The coils also will relax when we do. This means that WE are giving the DNA the signals as to how to respond to the stimuli of our environment, and it responds to US. If we do this consciously, choosing to BE positive about our actions, instead of in doubt, then they will respond positively by being clear, fuller channels for healing energy and protocols, whether it is MMS or anything else.

    I have no conflict or doubts about how MMS works, and do not “blame” it for what it does, even if it turns out that I feel terrible while toxicity comes out. Therefore, I DO not PROLONG the discomfort by resisting what is in me which doesn’t serve me, and instead, I let it go with gratitude, and my blessings.

    You are free to adjust the number of drops you take at any given time to ameliorate the discomfort and continue the detoxing process. But if you have doubts, you should ask YOURSELF why do YOU do so? Why do you not give YOURSELF the FULLNESS OF YOUR BELIEF IN *YOUR* ABILITY TO RETURN TO HEALTH WITH THE MODALITY THAT *YOU* HAVE CHOSEN?

    I spoke to a woman recently — Adele Britton — who agreed to chemotherapy for the rare form of cancer that she had. SHE had a change in heart, and mind. She LET GO of her fears, doubts, and most importantly, her ANGER. Her cancer is now in remission. It wasn’t the chemotherapy that did it, it was HER, and SHE *KNOWS* IT. (You can listen to my interview with Adele on my Talk for Food radio show. >> http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/546/33/ <<) (please let me know when the link is broken, I’ll move the podcast somewhere else.)

    I KNOW that YOU will heal yourself, not the MMS. However, if YOU KNOW that YOU heal YOURSELF, and are ready, then MMS will help you do it by doing what it does more effectively. Will you still feel nausea or pain? Perhaps, but you will be so HAPPY about what’s coming out of you while KNOWING that it is temporary, it won’t matter.

    It’s simply a different attitude.

    You’ve had to have read some of the MANY fantastic accounts that people have written of their own personal experiences using MMS. You are as SPECIAL and POWERFUL as THEY are. But YOU will use YOUR energy in YOUR OWN unique way. You will also interpret YOUR EXPERIENCE in YOUR own way… which is what you are doing.

    Is MMS causing YOU harm? NO… not any more than YOU are causing YOURSELF harm by your own doubts and fears. Fortunately, you can release them.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  796. Rohan

    Hi Adam,

    In part-2 of the book, Jim says the MMS would be a slightly yellow solution.
    But What I got is a whilte solution of MMS in a green plastic bottle.

    When vinegar is added to drops of MMS(6onwards) it is changing the colour to yellow after 2-3 mins. The pungent smell is also coming.

    Does this mean that the solution I have have some problem. It is white in colour( that is what I saw when the drops are poured into a clean white glass).

    Regards,
    Rohan.

  797. Howie

    My liver is still in pain and have been using this for a while now..for a while I thought is was clearing up, I almost thought I was cured, but then it all came back..
    I had to cut back to only 15 drops at night before bed as I was in a constant state of nausea..

    I am very skeptical and you seem very defensive to anyone who doubts..

    Howie

  798. Olive Kreitman

    How many drops of the MMS solution do I need to address stomach distention/malaborption/digestive issues? I am up to 3 drops and don’t feel anything yet.

    Thanks, Olive

  799. BetoA

    Hi, All:

    With plans to pursue a degree in microbiology and biochemistry, I personally became very excited about discovering MMS and the long-range beneficial implications for all of us in pursuit of living lives as “drug-free well people” versus “drug-dependent-for-life sick people covering up many resolvable problems..”

    I started one week ago for some of my personal issues, and on the first day of use the sinuses totally opened up and it’s been that way ever since. Nothing from the drug store or even any herb from the health food store has ever cleared this nasal garbage out so effectively. Both nasal passages are totally open, with no post nasal drip, no wheezing when I exhale, and my speaking voice is resonant and clear again and not that snotty-nosed sound when your sinuses are plugged up. This has been an issue since the mid 1970’s!!! SO I’M LOVIN’ THIS MMS!!!

    Prescription Nilcol years ago would clear it up for 4 hours, but then knock me out for 6 and I’d wake with a horrible hangover. I couldn’t do my job like that. SO NO THANKS!!!

    I feel a great sense of empowerment having discovered something so inexpesive for the world, and with such unique biochemistry on our side . . .ELECTRON DONORS (the bad guys) VERSUS ELECTRON ACCEPTORS (the chlorine dioxide) EQUALS “Zap” . . .GAME OVER FOR THEM. 🙂

    I would suggest everyone please review this site I found by Dr. Thomas Hesselink regarding his research, analyses, and abstract of the biochemical use of chlorine dioxide as a pathogen-fighting protocol and its many possible potentials.

    It gets to be very technical, but I found it to be very impressive as to his efforts into research to obtain his findings, and certainly encouraging for all of using MMS and subjectively experiencing our own validation of its effectiveness.

    http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXilus.htm

    And the skeptics and “experts” perhaps should utilize his professional, open-minded, objective approach regarding MMS, and instead of “theorizing” what MMS does or does not do, can or cannot do, or what the body will or will not do upon ingestion of MMS, test it first to verify their assertions and then advise us in a factual, informative and constructive way instead of an attack to discredit and undermine and scare users and potential users by applying biochemical response standards that they know versus biochemical response standards that they don’t know about MMS specifically.

    Otherwise, it stinks to low hell to me as being “a spy” or “a mole” monitoring various web sites perhaps on behalf of some corporate entity who is starting to shake in its boots at the huge potential loss of profits if MMS becomes a worldwide known unprecidented medicinal phenomon.

  800. P.

    The best thing you can do, in my opinion, is understand how MMS/chlorine dioxide works, and what it works on. When you’ve got that down, you’ll know that the herpes virus would indeed be within the range of its reactivity.

    The next question is simply accessing the virus where it resides in the body. If the MMS/chlorine dioxide accesses the location of the virus, then the virus will be toasted.

    If outbreaks stop after someone has taken MMS, with periodic “booster doses,” why bother looking for viruses? What we look for we will find. What we fear we will draw near.

    I would do what John did, and ask my body if it still has herpes, or any other virus that may cause an outbreak. If it says “no,” then I’d relax.

    I know this may sound strange to some, but your body is the only thing in the world that KNOWS whether IT yet harbors certain virus, bacteria, or pathogens. If you ask it, it will answer, truthfully.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  801. John,

    GREAT insights!!! Thank you for sharing!

    I wrote about using applied kinesiology to get the body’s viewpoint and GUIDANCE in another of my MMS articles, which elicited a most negative response from one reader.

    It just so happens that this week I’ll be interviewing Dr. David R. Hawkins, from whose book, Power vs. Force, I learned about muscle testing, for an upcoming edition of my radio show, Talk for Food.

    I’ve not heard of the blue/green phenomenon, but I suspect that your assessment of what is happening is correct.

    All of this leads us to acknowledge that we know much less about healing than we do about disease. And we know even less about *our own* healing, and yet, that’s the one that counts the most.

    Have you tried drinking it down with pomegranate, grape, pineapple, or cherry juice? I’ve used pomegranate and cherry, and the taste of the MMS is masked quite well.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  802. Jonathan… has been put in touch with someone offline. We send him and his wife our best and most powerful thoughts of health and well-being.

    A~

  803. NS… These statements have been issued repeatedly by people who don’t care about what is happening now. Or perhaps they do care about what’s happening now, that can be substantiated, because it is difficult to substantiate the many documented links that Jim Humble included in his book.

    For anyone that doesn’t know that hundreds of thousands of people ARE using MMS now — people that are writing about and sharing their own experiences and protocols — then it would be easy to ask the question that you posed. It would be the logical thing to do.

    MMS doesn’t “cure” malaria. It doesn’t “cure” cancer, asthma, diabetes, or any of a myriad of other disease pathologies. What it does do is safely remove a wide range of pathogens, toxins, and parasites from water by way of oxidation that leaves healthy organisms or beneficial tissue unaffected.

    It has been proven to do this in municipal water treatment for other 70 years. You can find corroborating evidence of that if you care to look.

    Chlorine dioxide is considered a superior water treatment modality to chlorine BECAUSE it produces no carcinogenic byproducts. It IS already being taken internally in these, and many other applications.

    Since water comprises the vast majority of the human (and animals too) body, oxidation by chlorine dioxide is an ingenious use of this natural, “rebel” free radical.

    The only rationale that anyone can give for dissuading people from using MMS/chlorine dioxide, is that they don’t want one to benefit from what it does… or more specifically, they don’t want it UNDERSTOOD that it works for us internally as well as it does externally. Otherwise, how could we continue to justify many of the other expensive, and ineffective ways we treat disease now?

    Regards,

    Adam…

  804. Dear Phaelosopher
    We are trying MMS out because there are many very poor people in our region that desperately need almost-free treatment for so many diseases, Hepatitis B, TB, Malaria etc.
    Please tell Jim Humble that we, probably like many people around the world, are willing to try it out, with a very positive attitude and with Hope. If it works, may he live to know proper gratitude from people everywhere.

  805. NS

    How do you respond to the allegations (see link below) that MMS is an unsafe treatment and that many of the claims in Humble’s book are incorrect or even fabricated?

    http://mmsexposed.weebly.com/mms-protocol-is-it-fact-or-fiction.html

    As well as the issues related to safety that are raised — and need to be answered — If MMS actually cured Malaria, where is the evidence? Shouldn’t there be at least some verifiable evidence? Has anyone independently verified these studies?

  806. John

    Graviola (Annona muricata) also called soursop or guanabana is a powerful tree that grows deep within the Amazon rain forest in South America and throughout the Caribbean. The plant has been used for centuries by medicine men in South America to treat a number of ailments, including hypertension, influenza, rashes, neuralgia, arthritis, rheumatism, high blood pressure, diarrhea, nausea, dyspepsia, ulcers, ringworm, scurvy, malaria, dysentery, palpitations, nervousness, insomnia, fever, boils and muscle spasms. According to recent research it also protects the immune system, boosts energy and may have strong anti-cancerous properties. Producers claim it is stronger at killing colon cancer cells than common chemotherapeutic drugs and that it hunts down and destroys prostate, lung, breast, colon, and pancreatic cancers, while leaving healthy cells alone.

    http://www.blackherbals.com/graviola_leaf.htm

  807. NS

    I am very interested in your work on MMS and am hopeful that it is as effective and safe as you suggest!

    Before I try it I wanted to research the potential toxicity. I did some searching and located an interesting report on the toxicity of chlorine dioxide (link is below), however I realize the studies that are mentioned cover very different scenarios than your protocol.

    What is necessary however, in order to compare their study to your protocol is to know the precise scientific quantities and concentrations of chlorine dioxide that your protocol indicates. That way I can compare apples to apples.

    Do you have a description of your preparation and protocol that states these quantities precisely? (in other, not “two drops” but some exact dosage? And what concentration is created?)

    Has anyone else studied this and can you point me to further links that might help?

    http://www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0496.htm

    http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/09/no-miracle-just-wonderful-chemistry/

  808. jonathan traister

    hi adam/ jim
    just finished reading the e book(most of it).i have some questions.
    1:any names and contacts that i can speak with who have successfully used mms to rid themselves of cancer?? this would be very valuable to my wife and i
    2:any updated protocols for using mms on breast cancer??
    3:any updated protocols for using mms externally on breast cancer??
    4:anybody who is using mms with there cancer , feel free to contact me@ rpm2700@hotmail.com or call @ 575-613-4274

  809. jonathan traister

    jim
    my wife has been dealing with 4th stage breast cancer for 2 years now.she has a mango size tumor in her breast.We have done everything natural, no chemo,no surgery,(i am well versed in the deceptive cancer industry and its 50 billion $ profit s!!)but she did have a biopsy which seemed to spread it.she is currently on a 42 day fast from the bruess cleanse,she’s on day 23,very stringent cleanse.we have tried almost everything,i will list just a few:black salve,lorraine days program 6months,every mushroom u can think off,every herb u can think of,every green algae,etc………my friend turned me onto this,bottom line will this get rid of my wifes tumor???this cancer is like an alien,and i want my wife not to die from it.We are not in fear she got rid of that within the first few months,i just want her to heal,email or call with your response
    575-613-4274.thanks for your time
    jonathan. my wife is 42 we have 3 boys together much to young to die from cancer!!!

  810. John

    Could you advise me on giving this to a dog who is very ill. Our dog has heartworms, and also has bone cancer. This product looks like it could help her. I would like some advise on the dosing.

    Thank you,
    Laurie McDonald

    —————————————
    Hi Laurie,

    I think the answer to your question is in jim Humbles book. If I remember its 1 or 2 drops.

    John

  811. Hi Adam

    Some key points and questions for you:

    1) Moving up to higher doses is definitely hard to swallow – literally! Up to, say, 4 or 5 drops it’s not too bad, but beyond 10 or 11 it’s getting really tough to drink it! So, can you see anything wrong with simply splitting a 15 drop dose, say, into three 5 drop doses and preparing and taking them an hour or so apart?

    2) My partner’s heals and wrists went quite a bright green-blue colour at 14 drops. We assumed this was because of some stored heavy metals or copper being released. It didn’t last long – ever heard of this before? Any comment?

    3) We have found that the toxins being released can take a couple of days to clear out. We know because we stopped taking the MMS and still felt the effects for some time. Also, old illnesses seem to come back in a minor form for a few hours or a day or two, and then go.
    To help manage the variable release of toxicity and recovery we have found we are cutting back more than just a few drops and then working SLOWLY back up.
    Thresholds seem to be reached as you increase where, suddenly, it releases a new wave of toxins. Then we have found it necessary to cut hard right back, even to zero drops for a while.
    But how to know how much?
    Well, we started using ‘muscle testing’ (Kinesiology) to get input from our bodies about the correct dosage (and timing). every time we take MMS. It turns out that our bodies have some pretty strong views about how much to take, when, and with what juices, etc. It’s too much to explain here (Google it) but our arm strength tests give very positive results for the right dosage and very weak for anything else. This is how we have known to cut right back to zero, or just 1 or 2 drops for a day or two, and how quickly to work back up. This way we seem to be able to stay in the slight discomfort only zone, but not debilitating.
    We would recommend muscle testing highly for all questions about MMS usage (like is it better before or after a meal – it varies!) If you don’t believe in it, or don’t have someone to help you (it’s quite hard to do on your own – I do it with trying to lift a chair with my arm out straight) then actually, if you just ‘listen’ to what your body is saying to you, it’s much the same!
    I believe this will be very much part of the new or later protocol (taking much more notice of what ‘feels right’ for you).

    Keep up the GREAT job.

    John

    PS Finette does raise some valid points (and some silly ones), but like that Bruce guy on your show, please can he tell us WHO, exactly, are the “the MANY who are very ill/poisoned from this”? I haven’t seen much evidence of anyone being harmed – have you? You’d think the forums would be full of horror stories of bad effects, but they are almost exclusively of positive to miracle reports. SO, ARE people getting harmed, to your knowledge?

    PPS If MMS is for real (I believe it is, I’m feeling better than I have done for MANY years and am deeply grateful) everyone should be aware that Big Pharma, etc. will absolutely, positively litter forums like this with disinformation as a matter of course. And this disinfo will look exactly like the kind of jumbled up points of Finette (i.e. good points mixed up with crap). So, we should all beware of this, and keep our discretion going 🙂

  812. yemi

    Hi bruce,
    You are a big fool for telling that. You dont know anything at all. What do you know about Jim’s book.
    Find somewhere to rest/die and dont let us hear from you you again.
    fool

  813. bruce

    Yemi, you have a big mouth and what comes out of it does nothing to prove or disprove what anyone is saying, so tell me Yemi what do you know, and don’t quote humbles book, WHAT DON”T YOU KNOW!

    I’ll tell you where you can find a letter from humble when he left the church of scientology and states we will change words in their book sell it put a $1.00 from every sale to a fund incase they are sued, but they can get rich first! another scam!

  814. P.

    Hi Adam

    Ive searched a lot on mms/herpes but no one seems to be sure about this
    Some don’t experience anymore outbreaks but then again, they can’t be for sure if the virus is really gone. Even without outbreaks they can spread the virus if it’s still there.

    How can we check if it’s gone? The only thing I came up with was testing with electrodermal testing. Do you believe this will work?

    Best regards

  815. Rohan

    Thank you Adam,
    I am now taking MMS two times a day(8-10 drops) and on sat and sunday I am taking it three times a day.
    I am taking it empty stomach in the morning with juice and wait for another 4 hrs before taking any food or even water. Is that recommended.
    Is it necessary that I should have a 4 hr gap before and after taking MMS to have any food?
    I have checked for the videos on Youtube. But no where this is mentioned. Somewhere in the part-2 of the book, Jim tells to take it before going to bed in the night. But not clear of how much gap I should give with taking food.
    Why I’m giving 4 hrs gap is because I think the food would be kept in the stomach for 4 hours( the digestion period) and I don’t want the MMS to work with food. I want MMS to be absorbed to the maximum possible from the stomach(that is my logic of taking it empty stomach).
    Please advice on this.

    Regards,
    Rohan.

  816. Dodie,

    Sounds like you have a handle on this. After spending time at the largest natural dairy in the world interviewing the founder, tne food I will highly recommend is drinking raw, unpasteurized milk.

    And even better than that, is raw, unpasteurized colostrum. It tastes just like the raw milk, but is even more nutritious. It includes enzymes that the body needs, in addition to beneficial flora, and REAL vitamin A and D.

    If you don’t know where to find real milk (meaning raw and unpasteurized), go to http://www.realmilk.com.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  817. P.

    Every human body is unique. Having said that, if chlorine dioxide encounters the herpes virus, the virus will be oxidized.

    I would suggest doing a search at healthsalon.org, godlikeproductions.com or curezone.com on MMS and herpes and see what you come up with. Even doing a general search on the Internet will likely deliver some new and usable insights.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  818. Ric,

    Each person is different. You are unique. I experienced vomiting at 5 drops, although it lasted only a day.

    You were severely toxic, and probably dehydrated. Consider drinking MUCH MORE water each day, and put 2 teaspoons of baking soda in it for each liter that you drink. According to a man who got rid of a carcinoma on his temple, it will raise the water’s pH.

    MMS works best internally. In fact, it is working for you now. While it is unpleasant… VERY unpleasant, it is also temporary, VERY temporary.

    I don’t know how long it took you to get this toxic, but it won’t take nearly that long to get clear.

    Hang in there.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  819. Finette,

    In spite of the length and misinformation in your post, it’s published here for all to read. Each point has been answered by Jim Humble elsewhere on this blog.

    If you are sincere about helping people, you can’t act so blind to the actual benefits people are experiencing. You are citing information from people who are indeed ignoring the benefits, who offer no better solution, and continue to suggest that chlorine dioxide, when used in concentrations known as “MMS” is poisonous, when it is absolutely is not true.

    The public needs to be aware of your point of view, even if it is to understand that there are some who don’t care at all about their well being, and will use fear and mis-information to keep them standing still. You have, by intention, or unwittingly, made yourself a channel for that viewpoint.

    Nonetheless, we thank you for your input.

    Regards and well wishes,

    Adam…

  820. Davis,

    MMS is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite, created by combining a precise measure of sodium chlorite crystals with distilled water. The 28% refers to the the ratio of sodium chlorite crystals to distilled water, by weight/volume.

    Jim Humble’s book explains the details, including the amount needed.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  821. Rohan,

    Sounds to me like everything is working properly. Your body is releasing toxicity that it has been carrying around for your for some time. Flu-like symptoms, diarrhea, and even vomiting are possible while this is happening.

    How much water are you drinking? It is VERY important to adequately hydrate your body, (1) to carry the toxins out, (2) to replace the fluids that were used to carry them out, and (3) to have enough fluid for the body to carry on normal operations, which in this case, will include repair of damage caused by the pathogens/toxins.

    The MMS was oxidizing pathogens/toxins wherever they were encountered… in the stomach, lungs, sinus passages, joints… wherever contact was made. This may cause elevated levels of toxicity in the blood, hence the flu-like symptoms, but the body will seek to flush this residue out as quickly as possible.

    This experience is NOT the way MMS/chlorine dioxide works all the time. It only works this way while there are toxins/pathogens/parasites in the body fluids that are subject to oxidation. When they are oxidized, you’ll have no such reactions.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  822. Rohan

    Hi,

    I started taking MMS two weeks back.
    ->Started with two drops three times a day.
    then reached a stage when I was comfortable taking 12 drops three times.
    when I took 13 drops second time one day( fifth day after starting)(this was taken after one hour of the first dose after breakfast. I vomitted three times that day. Then I went back to 6 drops three times a day and later on the 1oth and 11th days I was taking 12 drops three times a day. Then i caught a fever and running nose( I am not sure whether it was because of MMS). well then on 12th day I didn’t take anything. 13th day ->6 drops only once and today 10drops(that too only once a day).

    One of the things I noticed is that when I was taking it three times a day, I had diahria throught the day. I thought the MMS is simply oxidizing whatever stuff is there in the stomach.
    Is that really possible?

    and one of the side effects(today too I have it) is sever abdominal pain after an hour of taking MMS.

    Why all these are happening. Is there anything Wrong?

  823. davis

    Hello,

    Please mention units when discussing concentrations and such. All available literature says 28% sodium chlorite. Is it 28 GRAM% or 28 MILLIGRAM% or 28 POUND% or 28 KILOGRAM%? Please let me know.

    Thanks and regards,

    Davis.

  824. liona

    Finnette,
    I read some of your information as disguise and unclear. How do you know chlorine dioxide do not kill pathogen. Do you know even common ozone is used to cure many pathogen becuase pathogen dont live where ozone were. Ozone is not as powerful in killing pathogen than chlorine dioxide. Many diseases have been cured using chlorine dioxide.
    Please dont pass wrong information to others. Many things u dont know I can see.

    Liona

  825. Yemi

    Hi Finette. Lerm,
    Do you know you are a big fool. I read some of your information many of them dont have meaning. Do you know chlorine dioxide is very safe than any bloody drugs in the market. Coming from no where to comment bad on MMS is a sign of irresponsibility. Do you know MMS is the best pathogen killer in the world although might not kills any microbes but it does kills 85% of all know pathogens in the world.
    Do you know a fool like you dont know many people have been cured of many diseases using MMS.
    Make sure you fing somewhere to sleep and die gently so that no ones hear anything from you again.
    Once again you are a big fool.

    Yemi

  826. Finette

    PLEASE be careful folks–the MMS is NO miracle cure and has been making many ILL.

    the explanations are based on wrong/faulty science and the claims of curing Malaria and AIDS are FALSE. (I have been in contact with various African agencies).

    when challenged those who are selling this stuff claim “conspiracy”–how convenient. Recently Humble’s site claims his life is in danger for telling the world about his cure–isnt THAT convenient too

    and right out of internet marketing class 101

    please people, this is serious–at least educate yourselves and for God’s sake do NOT administer to pets or children EVER

    a chemist who works with Chlorine dioxide commercially has stated that its POISOMOUS to ingest–read more here
    http://mmsexposed.weebly.com

    and for a brief start on learning how youre being duped read below

    the following statements are just a few that are found on the MMS site and/or purported by others to “explain” how and why MMS works yet it is plain “bad science” –my degrees in developmental bio and the decades spent teaching pre-med and nursing students as well as even more years as a Science ed consultant compels me to refute the following:

    1.- false statement: only “bad” microbes are ‘negatively’ charged and/or pathogens cant survive alkaline environments..
    we must not be content to repeat what we have heard or seen written by those selling anything. ANY intro level microbio text will tell you that the following DEADLY pathogens exist and thrive in alkaline environments: enterococcus, erysipelous bacteria, listeria and yes even fungus like aspergillus which has become deadly to many. therefore stating only ‘good’ bacteria are alkaline is FALSE- also, ingesting an alkaline will make these pathogens more likely to cause harm, NOT “kill” them.

    -According to experiments by Weichselbaum et al ” when gastric fluids become alkaline microbes do NOT lose their pathogenic properties”…

    -2. False statement:Good bacteria cant be harmed– what about GOOD bacteria that thrive in ACID environments ( almost all of the probiotics like lactobacillus). What is ingesting an alkaline doing to THEM??? while many cant make it past stomach acids, some DO and others do well in the slightly less acid but NOT alkaline GI tract, beyond the stomach, as well. if ANY bacteria or viruses are harmed, so too will the “good” bacteria.

    3. False statement- harmless salts form-making this non toxic–well, the common salt thats forming?? mostly right in the gut .hence the nausea- any scientific evidence that ANY of the active CLO2 stuff thats making you so nauseated getting anywhere into the blood??? I have seen NONE. The mammal body is pretty good at keeping things where they belong, why would such a toxic substance as ClO2 be allowed to get into the blood at high enough quantity? Id love to SEE blood and intracellular levels of ClO2 after ingesting this stuff

    once this stuff hits stomach acid–neutralized to salts–hence the nausea

    so too Id like to see the proof of its ability to get into the RBC–the membrane system makes it difficult at best for larger and unfamiliar molecules to simply cross the barrier membranes.

    4. False statement- the CLO2 deposits onto stomach walls where it enters the body like other nutrients–well first off nutrients leave the gut via small intestines NOT the stomach, secondly the acids in the stomach would react with the CLO2 anyway.

    5. False statement–if you have nothing in the body below acid level/Ph7 there are no ill effects–ummm what about the acids in the stomach?? and what about those good bacteria- ACIDophilus etc??

    FYI HEALTHY microbes like lactobacillus require Ph range of 5.8-6.6 ACIDIC and
    some pathogens like clostridium do well at 6.0-7.6–that is, they thrive even with alkaline environs!!

    when in a state of health human body is slightly ACIDIC
    while blood is usally slightly alkaline at 7.4 ( arteries) and 7.3 (veins)
    Urine Ph norms = 6.0
    saliva Ph norma 6.0-7.4 and vary so widely it cannot be used to measure the entire body’s Ph levels
    there are individual variations so that within a small range we each have optimum levels depending upon diet and genetics and other factors.

    6. False statement–no chlorine is involved–that chlorine like odor when you mix it??? chlorine!! and/or chlorine dioxide GAS-matter of fact if you inhale the fumes you will be inhaling chlorine or dioxide gas and may well end up needing medical attention!

    7. false statement- ingesting MMS causes Ph changes of the entire body/blood to occur–no one has shown this to happen.
    – in any case, any PH changes that may occur, are very quickly rebalanced in the body,and kept within very strict levels ( different for various tissues etc) UNLESS one is so ill as to be unable and then they face a probable DEADLY outcome. Theres a reason why saliva and blood are slightly alkaline and urine acid…why would anyone think playing around with this balance is GOOD???

    – except in presence of some very specific illnesses, you cannot change one’s cellular Ph safely. Have you seen people in acidosis or alkalosis?? I have…not pretty. tiny changes that dont upset the natural balance also dont do much of anything for invaders…they too “like” the same margins of Ph our cells do.

    8. false statement–the nasuea/vomting, diarrhea means a good thing–pathogens and toxins are leaving the body-maybe even a “herx”
    if you ingest enough ‘common salt’ or salt water you will also vomit etc…like I advised to those doing the Salt/Vit c cure this too has very big risks. BUT this is NOT proof of a Herx!! or of healing or even detoxing–its your body screaming ” hey stop that”

    Not all negative symptom results can be called “herxes” regardless of whats causing them. that term has become way to loosely used and why we often have trouble getting other trained professionals to listen to us when a real Herx ( or other event poorly adopted) happens

    FYI as for pathogens and changing Ph-as far back as the “Principles of Surgery” by Nicholas Seim it was well known that altering the stomach’s acidity by making it alkaline will actually PRESERVE the virulence of pathogens and make the patient MORE likely to get deadly SEPSIS!! ingesting a strong alkaline is NOT therefore a ‘good’ thing. it will allow pathogens in the GI tract to become stronger and even to be passed further into one’s body.

    – saying chlorine dioxide is safe because we produce tiny amounts of it is patently silly. even WATER becomes toxic at high amounts. and anyone can look up ‘chlorine dioxide’ to see that its quite a dangerous substance. Citing its uses is like my saying that at one time ARSENIC was used quite successfully against spirochetes specifically syphilis. well, who here would want to ingest arsenic??

    9. False statement- Malaria has been cured in Malawi and Uganda–
    -I have intimate knowledge of the malaria situation in Africa due to my daughter ( grad student of anthropology who unfortunately for my gray hair travels out of this country a LOT). and I can unequivocably say that NO cure for malaria has been done there on any large scale IF AT ALL. Hundreds are STILL dying in hospitals from resistant parasites. I have a BIG problem with advertising ‘cures’ when I know them to be less than truthful.if they ‘fudge’ or exaggerate in one area then how can I believe the rest of the claims.

    I personally emailed the Ministers of Health of Malawi and Uganda and to this date None have been willing to say that anyone there used/uses MMS and that ANYONE has been cured of Malaria with it. Youd think theyd be bragging over their superiority if this happened. Id like to see PROOF from anyone of this happening as per the MMS website

    plus that su[pposed 75,000 prisoners cured?? well folke Malawi has only 28 prisons holding a total of 11,000–so WHERE are the 75,000 prisoners???

    10 false statement-resistance to this ( if it works) cant happen-
    RESISTANCE can and does build whenever ANY microbe killer is used. period. This ClO2 cannot and does not instantly kill every last “bad” microbe all at once…IF it did why then do you need it for so long????? the microbes that are NOT killed are very quickly reporducing and those survivors are passing along their genetic know-how to get STRONGER. For the same reasons antibiotics are a big cause of the resistant bacteria we now face, taking ANY killer will do the SAME.using anything that puts pressure on another living thing to adapt will cause genetic changes ( mutationally or simply gradually with reproduction). ALL living things have one prime directive : survive and reproduce–and they will find a way to do so.

    Im guessing that with some more time I can even find for you microbes that lap up chlorine. many thought for so long nothing can grow with high methane- WRONG, high sulfur or temperatures-WRONG.nothing can grow in Ice- wrong- turns out that there is LIFE adapted to very last environment on Earth. And some are pathogenic in every area.

    11. people are being cured–well maybe they ARE and maybe not–but not from this–from what? placebo effect perhaps ( at what cost or risk), perhaps by other stuff theyve done previously–after all many who try this have failed many times on previous treatments…maybe all they needed was healing time.

    the ones cured have done other treatments before or with this–how do you know which is helping?? and the MANY who are very ill/poisoned from this??? what of them??

    it is negligence to pass along false info and put others in harm’s way!!!

    be safe and be smart
    ( and btw there is NO conspiracy, IF anything was curing Malaria or aids in africa the level of superstition alone would have villages word of mouth rampant!! this week a scare about penis theft by witchdoctors had thousands in a tizzy–do you think a magic water cure would not??)

    and very cute that Humble’s site now has him hinting his life is in danger for revealing this cure–a good marketing trick right out of internet selling 101–how can you believe ANY of this???

    F.Lerm.

  827. Laurie

    Could you advise me on giving this to a dog who is very ill. Our dog has heartworms, and also has bone cancer. This product looks like it could help her. I would like some advise on the dosing.

    Thank you,
    Laurie McDonald

  828. RIC HARPER

    I MUST BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAS A FASTER CANCER CELL GROWTH RATE THAN THE MMS CAN CONTEND WITH..IN THE LAST SEVEN WEEKS I CAN’T GET PAST SIX DROPS WITHOUT EXPERIENCING VERY SEVERE NAUSEA,VOMITING AND DIARRHEA LASTING 5/6 HOURS.IT DOSN’T SEEM TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN HOW SLOWLY I INCREASE THE NUNBER OF DROPS.

    WOULD MMS WORK IN A TOPICAL APPLICATION AND IF SO IN WHAT STRENGTH ?
    BEST REGUARDS
    RIC

  829. Ryan Carson

    Phaelosopher,
    Why is it so hard on this site to find a link to buy the DVD or contact you?

  830. Hello Adam
    I would like to speak with someone about advertising and exposing MMS to a direct market audience through a combination of radio and internet advertising. I’ve searched for a phone number and found your website. I have a great opportunity to bring MMS exposure to people all over the world through Republic Broadcasting. RBN has five doctors who discuss alternative health information and provide help to all of our listeners. MMS has a direct connection with our audience. Please contact me if you have any questions.

    Regards,
    Clay Brunken

  831. P.

    Hi Adam,
    It still isn’t very clear to me what MMS can do for herpes.
    Can MMS get herpes out of your body forever?

    Best regards,

  832. John

    Hi Adam/phaelosopher, sorry I haven’t been able to get to this board since originally posting on April 2/08 concerning CFS/Fibromyalgia.

    I haven’t touched MMS again as my hands, legs and feet have been absolutely aching, stinging and itching, etc. I listened to the Jim Humble interview http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/view/472/33/ and have decided to try again using the apples to see if the sickness stops this time. I really want to go through the protocol (15×3 per day) as my health and energy are just all over the place.

    When I got up to 15×3 per day I lasted 6 days, even stopping it I was still pukin up 2 days later. Thing is that the pains in my hands, legs and feet where never this bad before using the MMS. It’s taken like 15 mins to type this little message out!

    Anyways, I thanks you for your reply and enjoyed reading the other q&a’s. That interview has encouraged me to go onward and get more MMS inside using juice this time;)

  833. dodie

    i have been taking the MMS at a fairly slow pace. Knowing it is working yet proceeding w/ care. I have a laundry list of issues and i am feeling relief in several areas. The question i have is regarding diet. Clearly avoiding refined sugars seems like a ‘no brainer” but what are other foods to avoid or gravitate toward for increased success? Adam thanks for the commitment to the cause.

  834. Taiwo

    How can we get MMS to buy in NIGERIA anyone know how? contact me here pls. asabtai@yahoo.com

  835. Gabriela

    Hi! I have had candida yeast for years. have people had any luck with MMS? What do you suggest for this?

  836. Michelle

    thank you for your response Adam.

    When you say the pain would diminish when the critters are removed – do you know how long this would take? I have had lyme for over twenty years but was only diagnosed a couple of years ago and have been struggling with different protocols. Do you know of people who have been cured or are symptom free of lyme after using MMS?

    Michelle (UK)

  837. Kim,

    I am the editor of http://www.HealthSalon.org

    I have some ideas for you to consider. For astham get some Tartaphedreel from Heel Homeopathics. Any health food store that sells Heel products can order it for you. It can knock an asthma attack out in a few minutes without dangerous drugs. But do keep your inhaler handy at all times just in case. Asthma must be taken seriously. Always carry your inhaler even if you think you do not have asthma anymore. I have had a world of experience with this so please take this seriously. With the tartaphedreel, often half the recommended dosage works just fine. Test it and you find what works for you. Your bottle will last much longer. If you drink wine 5 drops in your glass is even more powerful than the straight dosage. You can also try the drops in a 4 ounce glass of water to sip on over an hour or two. With homeopathics, often the more dilute the more powerful.

    Learn about pycnogenol. I have known people to use 30 to 60 mg 3 times a day for a couple of months and have really reduced their allergies to where they don’t need it anymore.

    Consider doing a 21 day detox. Get the book “21 pounds in 21 days. The Martha’s Vineyard detox diet” from Amazon. This is an excellent detox protocol Hold on the MMS until you have completed it or do just a very low dose, like 2 or 3 drops once a day. This protocol will help to open your organs of elimination.

    Rinse your eye with colloidal silver with an eye cup once or twice a day.

    Often times when people start to detox they have a difficult time handling it. Eyes and ears can drain, boils errupt, lots of things can happen if there is a foci of infection, especially, located in some body part. Often it is required to go slow, stop and rest as you have, but overall to be persistent and develop new tactics and approaches when the detox is severe.

    A healing reaction or detox that causes congestion can sometimes be construed to be a new disease but what it really is is a detox that has stalled. Persistence is key and sometimes a new game plan is needed.

    I can see no reason for the MMS to be a direct cause of your eye issue. The MMS is stimulating a detox that is difficult and unusual. Go slow. Consider colloidal silver as well as homeoapthic eyebright (euphrasia officinalis 30c potency) or rinse the eye with warm eyebright tea a couple times a day.

    Best of Health,
    Rett

  838. Elizabeth

    Clint,

    Thank you. I haven’t started yet but will come to this board to give my progress. Again, thanks.

    Elizabeth

  839. Kim

    Thanks for the reply. I am going to keep increasing the MMS gradually–I intend to beat this without steroids. I am up to 4 drops in the morning, 4 later in the afternoon and 2 before bed –I am having some reactions in my eyes now but not too bad. I have stopped all other supplements except MMS and this morning I have extremely puffy eyes and some slime but it has somewhat gone away as I am up. I think it will just take time. I am also having lots of sinus drainage–I think this is good!

    I will keep you posted.

  840. Kim,

    I honor your healing process and fortitude, and your sharing it with us.

    When we spend time being poisoned and malnourished without our knowledge, the deterioration of our health appears to be “normal”. It’s plausible to attribute it to age, habit, or stress alone. The “helpers” get a free pass into our kingdom, and go unexamined and unchallenged. Our predominant medical system doesn’t even have effective methods to remove them. In fact, it relies on “toxic helpers” to treat many of the disease pathologies that we contract.

    Then one day we wake up and realize, we have a dull or acute ache, or can’t do something we used to take for granted. Or maybe something simply breaks.

    Then we figure out how to “manage” and carry on with the limitation. Our doctors give us something to “get through” the discomfort that simply masks the effects, but leave the cause unaddressed.

    As such, illness becomes our new “normal,” and how *we* go about returning to health is anyone’s guess.

    The fact is that our healing process will be uniquely ours; like no one else’s.

    This is because the manifold factors of toxicity and physiology, degree of acuteness, along with the willingness to let go of the *security* of dis-ease and readiness to be well, plus a belief in one’s power to do so, are equally unique.

    Best wishes to you.

    Adam…

  841. Hi Elly,

    I can’t speak to the chemical similarities between your sea water detox cocktail and MMS. If it works effectively, then that’s great.

    Chloride and chlorite do indeed sound similar, but chemically, they’re not.

    This is the same as chlorine and chlorine dioxide being assumed to have similar chemical behavior, when in fact they behave quite differently.

    Ingest enough chlorine and you will immediately get sick and eventually expire. Ingest chlorine dioxide and your pathogen load is reduced, and you get healthier.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  842. Michelle,

    Your assessment sounds correct to me. The chlorine dioxide had indeed reached, and begun neutralizing the microorganisms residing in that exclusive country club in your spine.

    The pain would have stopped once the critters had been removed. Increasing the drops may have sped the process up. Although it’s natural not to want it to hurt at all, it couldn’t hurt any worse to find out.

    I wondered what to suggest to you to help mitigate the pain, and the main thing that came up was this: think about what the Lyme disease, now represented by the pain you’re experiencing, has effectively PREVENTED you from doing in your life, which you deeply want to do. Ask yourself are you READY to now live that life, and if so, are you COMMITTED to CLEARING ALL OBSTRUCTIONS, PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, MENTAL, OR SPIRITUAL. Only YOU can answer these questions for YOU.

    When you can say, from the bottom through the TOP of your heart, YES to these questions, you will have set in motion your own healing. You will also summon the strength, ease, and grace to ALLOW the pain to pass along with the microorganisms and conditions that cause them.

    This is one area where MMS and all other modalities are limited, for YOU are the true Healer, as we all are. When you give the intent, permission, and make the commitment on these other levels (which I feel you have), you’ll set the stage for your new life, and then get ready to live joyfully within it.

    Just my opinion.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  843. Clint

    Hi Elizabeth,

    It’s 5 drops of Lemon juice to 1 drop of MMS.

    C

  844. Elizabeth

    I apologize if I am asking a question that I may have missed the answer to in an earlier post or in Jim Humble’s book but I need to know:

    How much lemon juice to each drop of MMS? I have only seen where it is recommended to mix with lemon juice but never hear mention of the exact amount. Please advise. Thank you!

  845. Michelle

    Six weeks ago I started taking MMS at half a drop once a day. Within a few days I had excrutiating back pain and this made me discontinue taking it as I was unable to drive to work. I have lyme disease and have no doubt the MMS was killing off lyme which is probably in my spine. My back pain receeded two weeks later. My question is – should I have continued or increased the dose and hoped that the back pain would stop.

    I do believe in MMS but there is no doubt it is very powerful.

    During this time I have continued with the salt/c protocol.

    I would be grateful for any advice – especially lymies who have started MMS.

  846. Elly

    BTW , if you added lemon juice to the , it may be more effective? …..
    Excuse the Q, but chloride and chlorite sound very similar?

  847. Elly

    Hi there, MMS has been brought to my attention today, and sounds to be amazing… here in Fiji, if people want to detox, i they drink seawater , 1 part to 1 part boiled water, one part tap water …drink 1 litre, up to 3x a day. There would be no money here to buy the MMS product for most.., wages are $1 an hour, ..if you have a job at all. )I was wondering if it has a milder but similar effect to MMS?, after all theres a lot of sodium in the sea…. and it is a living organism

  848. Clint

    Adam,

    No word yet on a IV Protocol ?…..I know in the DVD, Jim had talked about 2 drops MMS to 5 drops of Citric Acid…is that a minimum or maximum dose ?

    Thanks Adam

    Clint

  849. Kim

    I started with 2 drops 2 x a day and am now up to 4 2x a day. I am going to keep increasing slowly. My eyes are puffy, especially in the mornings–and, I wonder if this is not kidney related–maybe I am busting up so much bad stuff that it is rough on the kidney although there is no pain in my back or signs in my urine! I was always told puffy eyes are one sign of kidney problems. I still have a little rough area of skin on my eyelid where it broke open and seeped but I hope this will go away—you can feel it but not see it.

    I have discontinued all other supplements and meds just in case something is creating the eye mucus. Or, I was flushing the supplements!

    And, yes–I have severe allergies and they typically cause my asthma to trigger off! But, I don’t believe they were the cause of the eye discharge because it was real cold here then and not a time I typically have issues! I did have some sneezing spells (real bad the first night) when I started back on the MMS! I am having a lot of clear mucus draining in the back of my throat and coughing bits up. My ears feel a bit of pressure and I am teetering on the brink of a sore throat but not the same as an illness coming on! And, as for the rest of my body functions –it would be hard to know if I had diarrhea because it is normal for me to go multiple times a day and I have never experienced constipation in my life!

    Well, this is a run down of my experience. If anyone has ideas or comments I would welcome them.

    I can say that one of my family friends has bone marrow cancer and before Thanksgiving he was told he would not see Christmas. He started MMS Thanksgiving and he has gained his strength back to go out and do things with his sons. He has told me his blood work is improving rapidly –he isn’t telling the doctors what he is taking but he is not gray anymore! Another guy who suffered from gout has lost about 40 pounds and is pain free and the inflammation he had in his legs since college (and he isn’t young today) is gone. I personally, have not lost a pound but would look forward to it

  850. Sigrid,

    Congratulations!!!!

    As for the taste, I hope you’re experimenting with various juices. MMS is actually tasty when used with cherry or pomegranate juice.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  851. Hi Shanti,

    The benefits of using MMS before getting pregnant is reducing presence of pathogens, therefore decreasing the likelihood of passing them, organic or inorganic, into the fetus.

    The fetus is formed out of the tissues that make up your body, and most likely, will also share the chemical composition that you, the host (mother) have during its gestation.

    Simply put, the clearer your body is of chemical or microbial toxicity, the better.

    Since the research is new in this area, I can only offer an opinion.

    The chlorine dioxide itself does not act on healthy cells, tissues, or aerobic microorganism, and breaks down into small amount of salt and water, so I see no reason to be concerned about using it, either before pregnancy, during, or after, given the benefits that it makes possible.

    Yet, I would be most inclined ensure that my body is balanced (chemically) and pathogen free as possible before hand. Then there’d be little reason to use it during pregnancy.

    However, for pregnant women who have learned that they are already toxic, or who have addictions to various drugs, I believe taking MMS is, and would be an effective way to reduce the chemical residue that they would be transferring to the fetus.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  852. What are the benefits of using MMS before getting pregnant? Can it be used during pregnancy?

  853. Sigrid

    Some encouragement for those with fibromyalgia, I am now saying I USED to have it, as well as chronic fatigue syndrome and Epstein Barr Virus. I am not up to 15 drop yet, but since starting treatment I have been able to stop taking 8 Rx pills a day which is SO nice!! At some point early on, my fibro aches flared up but went away the next day. With the fibro, I used to go to the chiropractor 4x per week, now I only go 1 x per month. I also used to go to bed very early and take a nap during the day, but now I’m staying up until at least 12:30 am with no nap after going strong all day. I don’t have the “fibro fog” anymore. I used to have trouble processing what people were telling me but that’s gone now. I’m determined to continue with the drops and keep thinking of all the good stuff that’s coming after the bad taste!!!

  854. Sigrid

    I have been taking the drops strictly with water and am almost at 15. Sorry if this has been covered, but once it has been activated, can you please list what I can use besides water? The smell/taste is requiring more than just water now. I have to leave the room even while it’s activating now. Thank you!

  855. Vince,

    I asked Jim about fibromyalgia in our latest interview.

    Use this link to listen:
    http://www.webtalkradio.net/content/category/4/14/33/

    It will be the only show with Jim Humble, and on this list for 10 weeks.

    For anyone reading this post who finds no Jim Humble interview, please email me, as I will have moved the podcast to another location.

  856. Nadine,

    I’m not aware of magnesium aspartate being in liquid form. Magnesium needs another element to bind with in order to achieve motility. It naturally occurs as a liquid when it binds with chloride. As a liquid, it can enter the body through the skin, bypassing the digestive track, getting into the bloodstream faster, and delivered to the point of need in greater concentrations.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  857. Hey John,

    I’d dial the MMS back if you’re pukin’ just by looking at it. How long did it take you to go to 15 x 3?

    In these amounts, the chlorine dioxide isn’t harming anything. However, I’m going to tell you that the reasons for our body’s responses aren’t always physical, they are also mental/spiritual.

    Please ask yourself — deeply and earnestly — are you ready to follow your heart’s dream? Are you willing to let go of shackles that you created to keep yourself down? Are you ready to create a new life story? Are you ready to be your most courageous YOU?

    I don’t know your story, or the *benefits* you’ve gained from manifesting this condition, but you’re taking steps that can change it that won’t kill you, but will remove the pathogens and poisons that are.

    The conversation is between you and yourself. But depending on your heart-felt answer, your body will change its response to the MMS.

    If you have NO RESERVATIONS about being well again, and WILL ACCEPT NOTHING BUT WELL-BEING again, ask your body what IT needs to accomplish your goal, because YOUR TRUE GOAL, IS ITS GOAL. It will tell you how many drops are adequate, and it will continue releasing toxins, as it has already done. Also be certain to add more water, and even eat an apple to help absorb the elevated toxin levels that are generated as pathogens are oxidized.

    Your body is attempting to be true to its understanding of your CURRENT goals. Let it know that YOU have changed, by picturing… VISUALIZING, and FEELING yourself pain free once again, FEELING the joy and excitement of being FREE to follow your heart’s wishes, and CREATE the life you’ve not permitted yourself to live, because you THOUGHT you couldn’t.

    I don’t have to know what this is, but YOU DO.

    [Just MY opinion, but thank you for the question. You CAN be well again.]

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  858. John

    Hi, anyone using this for CFS/Fibromyalgia. I got upto 15 drops 3 x per day but nearly died. Couldn’t eat at all, just vomiting everytime. Same too with drinking water, I’d just drink then a minute later puke up. I had to stop taking MMS. My fingers and feet are worse than ever, twitching muscles too. I’m real worried in case I’ve done more harm than good. Any thoughts advice?

  859. Clint

    Kim:

    To weird…. I think I might have a little of that too…although I have to say, that mine are mostly from Allergies this time of year (am in Houston) …and the Pollen count is off the charts.

    My eyes have been weeping though, and crusty when I awake in the am….but I never stopped taking the MMS…and am up to 15 drops, 3x’s a day..but mostly 2x’s a day.

    You might try easing off, like you doing..and them resuming once you feel better…and makijng it up to 15 drops 2x’s a day….

    I do wonder if you have Allergies going on with you, the same as I have going on….sneezing, watery eyes…. feeling foggy, etc…

    Is your colon moving 2-3 x’s a day ? You drinking lotsa water ?

    Clint

  860. Kim

    The first time I started with 4 drops and worked up to 6 quickly. I did feel some nausea a few times and started taking it at bed time instead of in the morning. I stayed on 6 drops at night for a few weeks and then added 6 to my morning routine. I began waking up with puffy eyes and but nothing else. Within a few months I was up to 14 drops at night only. Then I was waking with slime in my eyes. I then split the drops to 8 in the morn and 8 at night. This was over a 5 month period. I do not take any Vit C with it and only buy real pineapple juice with no additives for my mix. I did not do well with the vinegar activation (vinegar really causes me to feel tight in the chest and wheezy) so I use the citric acid solution. I do take an iodine supplement for my thyroid and for hot flashes and I know this will cause some mucus if I get too much but it wasn’t the same. My eye would get real itchy and a sticky, clear substance was constantly in mostly my left eye. Then lesions appeared on my eye lid and they seemed to secrete the same sticky discharge. I tried backing off the drops but it did not seem to help so I stopped and it cleared up completely in about 2 weeks. Then I got the most terrible flu lasting about 3 weeks and immediately kicked my asthma in–nearly put me in the hospital. After only a partial recovery from the flu I started on 6 drops last week again! And., similar eye puffiness and slime started. I am now taking 2 drops in the morn and 2 at night and hope it will back off so I can gradually build up.

    I have bad asthma and allergies. I have been fighting to stay off of antibiotics and steroids. And, these combinations of modern medicine have made me gain weight in the mid section–unusual and very unhealthy weight. No matter what I do I cannot get rid of it. I have been working with a natural doctor for a few years but he is 3 1/2 hours away and it is just expensive and honestly I was better but had not achieved complete success. I am looking for a solution to all of these problems. I am on a wheat free, dairy free diet and a fist full of natural supplements 4 times a day!

  861. Clint

    Kim:

    Can you give any details as to how many drops you started with ? How you progressed drops wise ?…and how many drops a day you were at when you stopped the first time ?

    Also, Vitamin C should NOT be taken with MMS, as it makes it inactive.

    C

  862. Kim

    Are there any supplements that should not be taken with MMS?

  863. Kim

    I started to take MMS about 5 months ago in hopes for help with my asthma! I suppose I jumped in and took too much too quick and developed a itchy eye then a goopy clear eye discharge and later small lesions on one eye lid that had a sticky clear discharge. I stopped the MMS for several weeks and let it all clear up. I started again but on a small dose this time (not completely certain it was the MMS) and am starting to have the same eye issues again. Has anyone else experienced this and what do you think it means?
    Has anyone else had good results with MMS and asthma?

    Can anyone tell me about their experience with MMS and Candida?

    Thanks

  864. seyi

    Rita,
    MMS does not cause asthma attack. It only give a relieve/ease of life to immune system. The naturopaths are not happy for you to use MMS.
    The naturopath telling you this is a big fool. Dont you know that MMS is safe than chlorine we consume everyday. As long you dont take too much of MMS it is fine.
    Hope this helps.

    Seyi

  865. Rita

    Another question about asthma:

    I’ve been told by another sufferer that you should be careful in taking products that increase your immune system as this can trigger an asthma attack.

    I’ve spoken to a couple of naturopaths and they have given me conflicting answers. One says that taking immune-building products is of benefit, and the other says DO NOT take products that have that effect as it can potentially give you an asthma attack.

    From what I have read, MMS increases your immune system…..so I don’t want to be putting myself in some sort of potential harm.

    Can anyone help

    Thank you in advance

    Rita

  866. nadine

    the magnesium you talked about, does it have to be chloride or is magnesium aspartate fine too?

  867. Hi Adam,
    I want to know if it is better to add grape juice after one drops of sodium chlorite and citric acid has dissolve for three minutes. I noticed that when water is added to chlorine dioxide Chlorite is formed.
    Thanks

    yemi

  868. vince

    Does anyone know someone who used this with success for fibromyalgia?

  869. Clint

    Hi Adam,

    I have a question regarding MMS IV’s ….

    In PDF#2, Chapter #13, it talks about adding the MMS into 20 ml of Sterile injection fluid… would this be Saline Solution ?

    And also, is citric acid used as an activator ? I know in your DVD, I saw Jim use 2 drops of MMS, and 5 drops of Citric Acid…then, was all that put into a Saline Solution…then dripped in to the vein.

    Please let me know a starting dose, and what the recipe is…thanks.

    sincerely,

    Clint

  870. kit

    Thank you Adam!
    I appreciate your empathetic response! 🙂

  871. Clint

    Thanks Adam,

    I appreciate you contacting Jim !

    Clint

  872. Seyi,

    I’m sure readers may have other suggestions, but magnesium chloride, which naturally occurs in liquid form and can be taken through the skin by soaking your feet in a footbath (with 1-2 oz) or a regular bath (4-6 oz), is an excellent way to replenish the body of this vital mineral.

    Chronic constipation is an indication that magnesium levels need replenishing (among other things).

    Magnesium is *food* to the body at cellular levels. If it is not on our foods (which it isn’t, in sufficient supply because it’s processed out, or not in the soil), we are malnourished (often overweight), and unable to maintain our health.

    Also, hydrate your body by drinking loads of alkaline water.

    While it is not a nutrient, MMS — chlorine dioxide — will help reduce the toxin-producing microorganisms in your body, as well as neutralize toxic deposits that are encountered, and the body will naturally attempt to flush the residue out immediately. It does this through diarrhea and in some cases, vomiting. They will also come out in the stool.

    While the body doesn’t “need” MMS, but can benefit from its use, it does need a sufficient amount of magnesium to either maintain or restore health.

    Hope this is helpful.

    Adam…

  873. Hi Adam,
    Can you help me with any food or substance that can help clean the toxicity in the body or to soften stool please

    seyi

  874. Clint, I’ve passed your question on to Jim. I don’t know the answer, and won’t venture a guess.

    Here is his response:

    Adam, I don’t know the answer, but I’d assume they are the same for now.

    Jim Humble

    Guess we need to do more research.

    Thanks again.

    Adam…

  875. Clint

    Hey Adam,

    I had asked tis question earlier… and didn’t get a response… was hoping yu might solve this mystery…

    ————————————
    I have a question about Vitamn C.. and that is… is it ok to take Vit. C from an “Ascorbate” source as opposed to ascorbic acid source ?

    The Ascorbate is a buffered C..and wondered if it had the same effect that Ascorbic did.

    thanks again Adam

    Clint

  876. Henry,

    One of the other possibilities… when it seems to be taking more time than “normal” to see a noticeable response in your body to MMS, is blockage or obstruction in the liver, gallbladder, or kidney. In this case, the chlorine dioxide has to break down what’s being encountered there before you see or feel a noticeable result. On the other hand, if your body is already in perfect balance, you’ll have no reaction to taking MMS whatsoever. If I knew that there should be some toxicity to release in my body, I would gradually continue taking MMS, and also look into a liver or gallbladder flush.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  877. Susanne,

    Congratulations on your progress. I would also suggest that you exercise VISUALIZING your body — on a cellular level — free of the imbalance that the microorganisms are causing. See your blood cells as whole and well oxygenated. Taking MMS is an active step that you’re taking, but you have the power to actively give your body and cellular structure the energy that these areas have been in need of.

    I will forward your post to Jim Humble and get his thoughts on how to go about making the introduction into Brazil, and inquire about the status of our book. Best wishes.

    Adam…

  878. Hey Clint, thanks for helping Seyi!

    I would only add that each individual is *individual*. I’ve spoken to people who took 30 and 40 drops before they had a “reaction” — meaning noticeable evidence of toxic oxidation.

    That nauseous feeling is noticeable evidence, as is diarrhea, vomiting, and also distinctly different stool samples. Make absolutely sure you are well hydrated, as your stools can vary widely in terms of hardness, as well as what’s in it, from parasites and their eggs, to “ancient waste products,” etc.

    It depends on the individual, what their situation is, how acute it is, where its located, and how RESOLUTE the individual is to “get ‘r done!.”

    But if you continue, as Clint suggested, you’ll find the point where YOU notice that it’s working, and then when you actually begin releasing toxicity.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  879. Rita,

    I wrote about a woman recently who took MMS for melanoma, which caused it to begin to begin shrinking. One of the residual effects was that she noticed a marked improvement in her breathing. Although she had not mentioned it to me, she has had asthma for many years. My documentary explains how chlorine dioxide breaks down “biofilm” that certain bacteria will produce and live in. We recognize it as mucous. They colonize within it and are protected from antibacterials.

    Chlorine dioxide breaks down the biofilm, and then oxidizes the colony.

    No one can tell how quickly you can get rid of your asthma with this protocol. Your choice is best served by understanding how it works, and whether it would be safe and effective on you, and then using it to determine for yourself.

    I will say this: it will take a lot LESS time to rid yourself of the mucous than it did accumulating it. In addition, the chlorine dioxide will oxidize pathogens in any part of your body, and address toxicity issues that you may not even know you have.

    Best wisehs,

    Adam…

  880. Rita

    Hi, I’ve just started taking MMS the last couple of days and was hoping it will improve my asthma.

    To cut a long story short, in the beginning of the year I had a severe asthma attack and was lucky I wasn’t carried out of hospital in a box.

    What I would sincerely like to know is is there anyone else out there who have had asthma and can say that MMS has (for want of a better word) cured their asthma? How long did it take?

    I did read that it will take persistence with asthma….but God only knows I don’t have any patience!! LOL

    Asthma is really affecting my life now to the point that I can’t function properly.

    Can anyone help?

    Thank you

    Rita

  881. Clint

    Hi Seyi:

    I can answer your question for Adam….

    When you start taking the MMS, you first want to find out at what point you start to experience Nausea… some experience it at 4 drop..some at 10 drops..some at 12……

    My advice is keep taking it until you hit your Nausea threshold, and stay there a day or 2, and then increase the drops per day again.
    You know it’s working when you first experience a little nausea… and it is at that point you need to not quit the MMS, but keep taking it…then when the nausea goes away…. start to increase the drops to 15 drops….at a time.

    Hope this helps,

    Clint

  882. Hello Adam,
    I have been using MMS for the past three days but no side effect. I want to know if MMS is working

    seyi

  883. Susanne

    Hello Adam, thank you very much for all you do. I am currantly taking MMS and am up to 11 drops. It has been a rocky road at times as I am dealing with Lyme. Diahrea, nausea, cramps…you name it. I am suffering but I am happy! I am finally receiving help. My bizarre symptoms are obviously diminishing.
    The reason I am writing you is that I would like to bring MMS to the Brazilian Amazon and educate designated people there on how to treat Malaria. What would be the best way to get enough MMS to this region? I have ordered Jim Humbles book a while ago but not received anything. Maybe there is advice to be found in there and maybe not. Thank you again. Susanne

  884. Clint

    Well, you had said in an earlier post Henry, that.. “My pain is almost gone and my chronic sinus is gone after just one week of use. I cant believe it.”…

    So, I guess from that statement..it must be doing something . . . right ? 😉

    Clint

  885. I have been using MMS for one week now and have not experience any nausea or vomit or any symptoms. I started with one drop and now I am on 12 drops two times a day.
    Does that means MMS is not working in me.
    I dont understand. Can anyone help me please

  886. Mette,
    In reply to your post. All over the world people believe in doctors/medical practitioner and pharmaceutical companies. A lot of people dont believe in this MMS really until they try it. When people try it they found out is amazing. All big companies dont want it to be sell to everyone because they make money from you when you are sick. Doctors all over the world are using MMS but they wont tell you. Thanks to Jim humble who discovered MMS. If I am rich I will give him $4million for this discovery.
    I never heard of MMS until I search internet one day and found MMS.
    My pain is almost gone and my chronic sinus is gone after just one week of use. I cant believe it.
    MMS is amazing and great discovery of our time. You better try it or doctors take way your money and doctors will not cure you but treat you.
    Thanks

    Henry

  887. Clint

    Dear Mette:

    Am not sure how old you are, but…. obviously you haven’t read about Ozone, or Royal Raymond Rife…or a few other treatments that have been put to sleep by the FDA, and AMA so they can keep making Billions from people being sick.

    Something as simple as Miracle Mineral Solution would make them lose SO much money….do you really think they are going to support it ?

    Very much like the car that strolled off the auto assembly line that got over 100 miles per gallon, WHY didn’t we hear about that car more, and why isn’t every car modeled after that one…. catching my drift ?

    I’m sure your a very smart person, but you can’t be that naive to think that MMS is going to be supported by the Media, and the FDA…. do you ?

    Clint

  888. Mette

    I can’t help but to be very sceptical. If this thing works so well and has cured so many ppl all over the world, how come it is not more known?
    Medias should be all over this?

  889. Clint

    Hi Adam,

    I’ve been on MMS now for a month…am up to 13 drops and heading towards 15.

    I have a question about Vitamn C.. and that is… is it ok to take Vit. C from an “Ascorbate” source as opposed to ascorbic acid source ?

    The Ascorbate is a buffered C..and wondered if it had the same effect that Ascorbic did.

    thanks again Adam

    Clint

  890. Surface!

    Thank you for your always welcome well wishes. We have much to learn, not only about MMS, but about ourselves.

    Best wishes always.

    Adam…

  891. Kit,

    I understand your situation. Chlorine dioxide doesn’t oxidize the metal in your mouth. It may oxidize the gases that they give off, which get deposited in your tissues, but not the objects themselves. I have amalgams, implants, and a prosthesis in my mouth and none of them have been affected by MMS intake.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  892. Jenny

    Ok, I will try just one drop and go from there, I do still believe in this..
    to dot schaeffer – get off that website and go to http://www.projectcamelot and stuff by Henry Deacon – get real….
    To all those trying this, keep at it – deep down I know this will work.
    Thank you for your reply Adam.

  893. kit

    Hi!
    I just ordered MMS for the first time. Question: is it safe to take it even if you have a bunch of yes, amalgams and dental implants, etc in your mouth or will they be affected because of it? I really can’t afford to have them replaced on many levels. 🙂
    Thanks!

  894. Penny,

    GREAT NEWS is NEVER too long! Thanks for sharing!

    Also, try pomegranate juice. It tastes good and masks the taste of the MMS almost completely!

    A~

  895. Sigrid,

    What you interpret as feeling “tired” may simply be the body needing *you* to sleep while it begins repairing the areas that had been affected by the toxicity that the MMS has oxidized and flushed out.

    This should be temporary.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  896. sigrid

    does it tend to make you tired? i am very tired since starting it.

  897. penny

    hiya,
    i just wanted to share my brief experience with mms.

    my mom gave me a bottle a while ago and i never doubted its potential after reading parts of Jim Humble’s book….but there it sat in my cubbard.
    untill I got sick….of course…

    I got a variation of strep that attacks the body with painful red bumps along bone areas. Now I had this one other time years ago and this thing lasted several weeks with the bumps fading into all sorts of shades of colors like a bruise. More recently my daughter had the same thing, same senario….we gave her antibiotics because we were at a loss of what to do.

    well when I noticed the 2 bumps one night I was like oh shoot! Husband said call a doctor if you wake up in the morning and there are more. So woke up I was feeling like garbage and there was another couple bumps…..so I pulled out the mms, gave my seflf 5 drops, and then started the kids on them too as a preventive, didn’t want them sick as well.
    an hour later I talked to my mom and she suggested an enema with mms in the water, definately TMI but…I did with 20 drops of mms. I went through 4 hrs of being on the toilet, feeling like throwing up, shaking yuck. But after all that I was done. I felt good , the next day felt even better the bumps were still there but none new. was also taking 5 drop shots 3 times a day , the day after the bumps were gone….none of the awful bruises. I was better….amazing…..I love this stuff!

    Oh yeah a side note my kids who were taking it as a precautionary, well the one apparently doesn’t like grape juice so hasn’t really taken any mms has gotten sick….the other one has been taking it….she hasn’t gotten sick.

    (sorry this was so long)

  898. Pauline

    Thanks a million for your response Adam! 🙂

  899. Great job, what you’re doing. Just ordered MMS from the Australian supplier and can’t wait to try it when it arrives. Sent Mr. Humble a couple of questions but have yet to receive a reply. Perhaps he’s very busy and perhaps you can help me. My husband has Lou Gehrig’s and my questions are :
    – has anyone with Lou Gehrig’s tried MMS?

    I’m not aware of any reports from people with ALS using MMS. I believe it should be helpful, but have no cases to point to.

    As you might have heard or read, there has been speculation that Lou Gehrig’s might have been triggered by some mirco-organisms or parasites.

    I agree. It makes perfect sense today, and wasn’t apparent in Lou Gehrig’s day.

    – can he continue to take his health supplements while on MMS eg. B-complex, grapeseed extract, vit-c, silymarin, burdock root, omega 3-6-9?

    Chlorine dioxide does not react to anything that is in the pH range of 7 and above.

    With the exception of the Vitamin C, which if taken in large amounts, would “deactivate” chlorine dioxide generation, it shouldn’t affect, or be affected by any of the others that you’ve listed.

    – is it ok to take MMS on an empty stomach?

    Yes, and preferred. You’ll get far grater “bang” for the drop.

    – Should it be taken before, after or with food?

    The emptier the stomach, the better. If you’ve eaten, give yourself as much time as possible. You’ll have to tailor the specifics to your particular lifestyle.

    – I noticed that the people in Africa were using plastic cups to prepare MMS. Is it ok to use plastic or must it strictly be glass (just in case we forget to bring our own glass when we’re out and there’re only plastic tumblers around).

    I’m not aware of any glass mandate. Even the solution itself comes in a plastic bottle. I wouldn’t be too concerned about that.

  900. Pauline Goh

    Hi Adam,

    Thanks for the above info re waiting an hour before eating.
    Would appreciate if you will kindly answer my three other questions as I’m quite new to this MMS.

    Thanks and God Bless
    Pauline 🙂

  901. Howie,

    If you take it on an empty stomach, you should give yourself at least an hour before eating.

  902. Howie

    If you take it on an empty stomach how long should you wait before you eat….

    Howie

  903. Pauline

    Hi again Adam,

    Oops…..I just saw your other blog (MMS and cancer) and read that it’s best taken on an empty stomach.

    Hope you can help answer my other questions.

    Thanks
    Pauline

  904. Pauline

    Hi Adam,

    Great job, what you’re doing. Just ordered MMS from the Australian supplier and can’t wait to try it when it arrives. Sent Mr. Humble a couple of questions but have yet to receive a reply. Perhaps he’s very busy and perhaps you can help me. My husband has Lou Gehrig’s and my questions are :
    – has anyone with Lou Gehrig’s tried MMS? and what was the outcome pls? As you might have heard or read, there has been speculation that Lou Gehrig’s might have been triggered by some mirco-organisms or parasites.
    – can he continue to take his health supplements while on MMS eg. B-complex, grapeseed extract, vit-c, silymarin, burdock root, omega 3-6-9?
    – is it ok to take MMS on an empty stomach? Should it be taken before, after or with food?
    – I noticed that the people in Africa were using plastic cups to prepare MMS. Is it ok to use plastic or must it strictly be glass (just in case we forget to bring our own glass when we’re out and there’re only plastic tumblers around).

    Thanks and God Bless!
    Pauline

  905. Howie

    Was really nauseous this morning again…

    Nausea is one of the main symptoms of Hep C you know and to exasperate that with MMS is not fun to deal with…

    Should I continue with the 15 drops twice a day until I move past the nausea? and is it ok to take after breakfast? At night I seem to be ok although for the past 2 nights I have had acid stomach.

    Any ideas on the best times to take it to avoid nausea..?

    namaste,

    Howie

  906. Howie,

    I understand the feeling, the frustration, and the fear. I’m pleased that the courageous and human side of you emerged, because the power to be well again comes from and through that part of you.

    Truth is, we don’t need MMS to be well again. However, it is a safe and effective way to move back to that place of balance; biologically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. Getting all of those “pieces” aligned will make magic happen right where we are.

    Best wishes always, and have faith in yourself. You already have the power. Use it wisely.

    Adam…

  907. nadine

    hey Howie! keep up the good work and good luck to you… chronic pain can be very debilitating and might make the nicest person uptight and impatient! pls keep us informed if it’s working for you. i am quite curious…
    nadine

  908. Howie

    Thanks for your response Adam…

    I’m sorry if I came off uptight, I’m going to continue with the MMS, I really just started freaking out with the nausea and fear set in,

    feeling better today a bit..I have a hard time taking it on an empty stomach with the higher dosage.

    I’m still not ready for 15 drops 3 times a day yet,

    your words made sense to me and calmed my fears…I guess I’m tired of my liver being in pain and want my life back…

    Thanks,

    Howie

  909. A slim volume on MMS jumped out at me the other day at the store and I grabbed it, before finding your posts here, I may not have known enough.

    If you have a certain kind of faith, you learn miracles are not miracles because with faith they are expected events.

    Namaste and peace to you for your willingness to help others.

  910. Hey Rev. Dot!

    Thanks for dropping by! I’ll check it out! I don’t do just physical health. I’m interested in the health of the whole being.

    That’ll be a great subject for my radio show, and to write about!

    Regards,

    Adam…

  911. Howie,

    As for your liver, chlorine dioxide will damage what has already damaged your liver, meaning the overgrowth of harmful microorganisms that you have nurtured by your behavior and thinking habits.

    Your doubts in the face of the simple evidence of its efficacy in this application, are doing you more damage than MMS/chlorine dioxide ever could.

    You don’t have to use it. You don’t even have to believe that it will work *for you*. But it’s working for too many people — people committed to reducing their body’s toxicity — to be dismissed as “BS”, and still be considered intelligent.

    Doctors are now buying MMS and starting to use it in their practices, and on themselves. They are LEARNING how to use it wisely, because their profession hasn’t embraced it yet, and they weren’t taught about this in school. We’re ALL learning, but first one has to have an open mind, and leave the attitude at the door when they enter this “New School.”

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  912. Howie again,

    Getting the names of people mentioned in Humble’s book won’t get rid of your Hep C. It’s likely you’re dealing with far more than Hep C. Chlorine dioxide (MMS) will address — oxidize — ALL of it — organic microorganisms and inorganic toxins, and heavy metals; even stuff that you may be unaware of, without harming healthy, well oxygenated cells.

    If you understand how chlorine dioxide can work to help you lower the pathogen overgrowth levels in *your* body — of which Hep C is the only viral or bacterial agent you’re focusing on — then you’d simply stick with it until you get the results you say that you’re after.

    Then other skeptics, doubters, and mis-informed people will be demanding your name before they go ahead and use it, but they still won’t see any change in their condition until they do it themselves.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  913. Howie,

    I don’t know how long it took for you to get Hep, but it’s going to take YOU as long as it takes in order to get rid of it. I’ll bet it took more than a week to compromise your immune system enough to let the virus over grow.

    Humble didn’t guarantee that anyone would be “cured” in a week. I’ve read accounts of people who did get rid of Hep C. They stuck with it until it was gone. Simple as that, without blaming anyone for not getting it done instantly.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  914. Howie

    I been taking 30 drops a day for about a week now and I KNOW I am not cured Mr. Humble…

    Howie

  915. Howie

    “I can guarantee that 30 drops will make any hepatitis patient feel very sick, but it will also cure them.”

    Mighty strong words there!

    Howie

  916. Howie

    From Humbles book:

    “One lady with hepatitis C did just what I told her not to do. Instead of taking two drops at first, she wanted to be certain that she killed it. She took 30 drops, added the vinegar, waited three minutes and added it to apple juice. It made her sick for three days. She then put the MMS aside and did not touch it for eight months. She thought because it made her so sick that it didn’t work, but when she finally decided to go to the doctor he could find no hepatitis in her body. Both were amazed. I have given it to many people with one of the hepatitis diseases A, B, or C. I can guarantee that 30 drops will make any hepatitis patient feel very sick, but it will also cure them. However, that is not the way to do it. A hepatitis patient should never start out with more than two drops. In that case, normally they
    See Chapter 8, page 15 for data on obtaining MMS.
    Understanding the Miracle Mineral Supplement Chapter 9 Page 8 The miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century will not feel any nausea, and if they keep slowly increasing the drops until they can take 15 drops twice a day without nausea, they will check negative to hepatitis of all kinds.”

    I would love to see the names of these people and some testimonials and method of confirming.

    Howie

  917. Howie

    I would like to hear a response to Susans question,”Since everything is processed through the liver, is this OK?”

    I’m putting this through my damaged liver twice a day now and am beginning to wonder is this stuff gonna damage it more..?

    I put in a email to Humble..he does not respond..

    Howie

  918. Howie

    I have been on MMS for a few weeks now, up to 15 drops twice a day and feel like crap. I have Hepatitis C and got nausea at 7 and 8 drops but moved past that, so I’m trying the 15 twice a day until I move past the nausea then will go 3 times a day…
    Honestly, I am beginning to have some major doubts here as I don’t see any improvement in my condition except feeling nausea and had some diarrhea this morning (the 1st time)
    I still have my Hep C symptoms, fatigue and pain in my upper right side…
    How many people with Hep C have actually cleared the virus with this?

    Humble claims it will CURE Aids and Hep C…who where and when..?

    Like I said I am beginning to have some serious doubts and wonder if this is a load of BS…

    Howie

  919. Dot Schaefer

    To a fellow lightworker — way to go! My background is media also, and I love it when it’s used to benefit people. Do you do just health? If you’re interested in UFO type things, go to (www.paoweb.com) and meet Sheldan Nidle, if you are not already aware of his work! It’s SOOooo interesting to talk with someone who has been on the mother ships etc.—in fact since a child, he and his sister have visited our off-world friends.
    Oh yes, I’m taking the MMS for tendonitis….don’t know what the results are yet.

    Blessings, Rev. Dot

  920. Jenny,

    I’d suggest that you start with a single drop, once a day, and work your way up. Clara’s protocol was for a very specific situation. You’re not doing anything “wrong,” by going that route. Starting with a drop and moving up allows you to get into it a bit more gently, and cuts down the likelihood of “surprises.”

    The approach you took will indeed work on the viruses, and much more. If there’s toxicity in you and the chlorine dioxide encounters it, then it’ll get oxidized. The nauseous feeling is one sign that it is working.

    Best wishes,

    Adam…

  921. Henny, please let me know if anyone helped you. The cancer keeps coming back because the toxicity in his body has not been reduced or eliminated. In fact, the chemotherapy increases it.

  922. henny thijssen

    hello,i would like to ask the same question as marko did before and that is to receive the book part 2 because i want to help my friend who has cancer and we dont have that much money let alone a credit card so it is difficult to pay for the book online and i see no other way to receive part 2 to read and understand how to make the MMS ourself so that we can help my friend and others who he meets at talkgroups,at least maybe he can try to feel better after the chemo that he had a few times and the cancer keeps coming back so i realy want to try this as soon as possible so if anybody can help and sent me
    part 2 of the book i would be very thankfull.
    thank you very much four your help and effort.
    regards
    Henny Thijssen,Holland

  923. Jenny

    Hi there, I started on MMS on 4 March (today is 7th) but I am finding all the protcols a bit confusing. I started on the Clara 6 x 6 and next day just took 6 drops. I experienced a bit of gastro on 6th and took 7 drops yesterday – lucky I am off work today because I have nausea and a lot of gastro – but then that is supposed to be good – getting rid of the bad stuff.. I have been off work with a virus and can’t tell if I feel better because of the gastro etc. Am I doing it wrong?

  924. Albert

    hello , my name is albert .
    I have a host of nasty viruses and really would like to give the mms a shot but just cannot find a buisness phone number to order some .
    I live in lillooet bc Canada .
    I have a requisition to do blood work including virail loads and want to try this stuff first before the blood work .
    so … can you send me a buisness ph.# ….Albert

  925. philipps

    Hi, from France,

    I have bought MMS part 2 book. In the chapter “how to make MMS in your kitchen” can someone help me to convert the unities in french :

    Ounces (uk, or US?), for instance what is the equivalent for 12,6 ounces ?…

    Quarts (UK, US) dry or liquid? for instance what is the equivalent for 1 quart?…

    Thank you 🙂

  926. I have a hepatitis B. i WANT TO KNOW IF mms WILL BE HELPFUL FOR ME.

  927. YEMI

    I have a chronic hepatitis B.

  928. Pol

    I am indeed very interested in using MMS but would like you advice regarding the medication that I am currently on for diabetes. I also had a triple bypass in 2003 so am taking medication for that as well. My dream is to one day finish taking these drugs, however, my question is; Would it be safe to take MMS whilst taking these drugs. Please advise and thank you.

  929. susan

    My concern is whether MMS is safe to use if one has cirrhosis of the liver. Since everything is processed through the liver, is this OK? Would the side effects be the same as I have read about or would they be more severe? Thanks.

  930. Monika

    I am new to MMS, is it safe to use with saline or silicon breast implants?Would apprciate your comments.With Saline implants,sometimes mould or fungas can occur inside the implant and I have read that implants become septic after 2 years or so.Would MMS be safe to use ,or would the implant desintagrate?

  931. richard crabbe

    Hi
    I am new to all this but could not help noticing Stephen Schiller’s comment about antioxidants and Miracle Mineral doing the opposite so it must be bad for you. I think it is worthwhile remembering that the oxygen we breath is an oxidising agent as is ozone which is also used for sterilisation purposes amongst many other uses. The key as always is balance. In current modern society, it is impossible to escape from toxins. Over time therefore the body’s mechanisms for detoxification get overwhelmed, the immune system gets overstretched and we start to get sick according to our inherited genetic weaknesses. Anything therefore that helps the body rid itself of toxins is always welcome. You will notice in the Miracle Mineral protocol that you go up to a maximum, hold it for just a week then drop down to a much lower maintenance dose that is not too oxidising but at the same time continues to aid the immune system. So in fairness to Miracle Mineral, I think a balance is being struck. Do not forget that at the end of the day, it is your internal wisdom that should be leading you so learn to listen to it.

  932. For a long time holistic medicine has stressed ANTIoxidants as one way to ensure good health. Now MMS comes along as a helpful oxidizer. I understand the benefits and basic chemistry of MMS, since I’ve read a lot about it. But I’m confused regarding the opposite nature of the traditional ANTIoxidant advice and the advice to use MMS – an oxidizer. It would seem like an antioxidant would neutralize the effect of an oxidant.

  933. Connie

    Somebody used MMS for Hepatitis C ? Any good results? If so please, give me details.

    Thank you

    Connie

  934. Dan,

    I’m not aware of anyone using MMS in this way. I am aware of people who use ozone as a pathogen oxidizer option in their colon cleanses. MMS could certainly be used in this way as well. I’ll forward the question to Jim Humble, and see what he says.

    Regards,

    Adam…

  935. C. Dan White

    Are you aware of anyone using MMS in a colonic irrigation protocol? (Colema Board) If so, do you know how much MMS/citric acid may be added to two gallons of water?

  936. Mary,

    It’s wonderful to hear of your great results! People who have dentures, stents, artificial joints, metal screws, prosthetics, and other objects are all taking MMS with no difficulty. It’s considered a weak oxidizer, unlike ozone and hydrogen peroxide.

  937. Mary

    Thank you so much on your constant information on MMS. I have been taking MMS for two weeks now and the arthritis pain on my feet and shoulder has all but disappeared. I want to recomend this to my sister who has similar problems but she has breast implants. My question is like Michel’s, does the MMS destroy this foreign objects in your body too? That wold be a problem!

  938. Bruce Crighton

    Can I help out Lyn Adam,
    Lyn, When MMS produces chlorine dioxide it’s oxidizing power is 2 1/2 time that of chlorine. It will oxize (gradualy eat away as chlorine dioxide is a hydron gas it will permiate even throuh glass) It will oxiize out of water, matals, minerals, phenols, magnisium, iron, ore and even cyanide.
    ClO2 loves piping made of brass, copper or stainless steel, loves it for breakfast, lunch and dinner. ClO2 is not Ph dependent like most chemicals eg: Chlorine only woks if the water has a Ph between 6-8.5, outside that is is useless.
    Clo2 works betwwn 2-12 and at it’s best between 6-10.
    Hope this helps
    Bruce.

  939. michele

    I too am requesting information on using MMS with someone that has a pacemaker (my mother) and my husband has a pin in his shoulder and stainless steel dental crown. Is it safe for their situations? Personally, I’m having good results with it and would like to share it with my family but cannot until these questions are answered. Others have asked similar questions but I have not seen specific responses. I just don’t want to make their health situations worse.
    Thanks,
    Michele

  940. Anita

    I am very curious about the mercury removal. You write that mercury gets evaporated.. “”Dislodging and vaporizing it will feel uncomfortable for a very short time compared to the time it took to accumulate.”” well, this sounds dangerous. If Mercury gets vaporized it can travel freely through th ebody and settle elsewhere, it could even cross the blood-brain barrier. But, I dont see how this simple chemical could make mercury vaporize. I get it that organic material gets broken down, but mercuray cannot be broken down, it is an element already so it stays mercury. It needs to be transported out of the body, but does CLO2 chelate? it is not stable or big enough for that I would think. chelate is envelop or drag some material as I understand it.
    So, I evidently dont get it how mercury would be removed from the body by this.

    apart from this question, I do have a positive effect, at least I think it is positive, I lost most of my appetite for unhealthy stuff. I actually crave cooked vegetables now. I cannot think of red meat or very fatty food anymore. the third day of using mms I only ate apples.
    I do have a swollen abdomen nearly all the time though, and my faeces were much too alkaline. Over pH 8. I dont think that is healthy, I have looked it up, it may even be dangerous. Maybe this is due to the fact that in the netherlands another activator MMS ratio is used, simply 1 on 1. I have now started to increase the activator again.

    Love, Anita

  941. Dr. Charles

    Adam, you are doing a fantastic job !! Keep up the good work! And all of the supporters and commentors. I have a Health Care Friend who has been using MMS for a month with no reactions and has more energy than she has had in 70 years. Her brother 75 has had two healing crises ,but is doing well as have all of her clients on it. I just started it this week and am up to 7 drops with no reactions yet.

  942. Vellum

    Same thing as MMS but different name. Available in the UK from the following links:

    Concentrated Air-Oxy Liquid by Health Aid

    Available from the following links:

    http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/body-soul/concentrated-air-oxy-liquid.asp

    http://www.auravita.com/products/aura/phar17153.asp

    http://www.zafash.com/moreinfo.asp?product_id=249

    I am using this now and the results are the same as using MMS solution.

  943. Delayne

    the parasites dont stand a chance, just take the mms and go for it. Have you read Jim’s book yet? People throwing up parasites. You betcha it will work.
    My husband has cancer of the kidneys, bladder and lower spine (because his Dr did not get it all out via his prostate surgery years ago). We follow as much as possible a good natural hygiene diet and use whole food supplements. BUT MMS is working so fast. In one week his bone pain is gone, his stint in the kidney pain is gone. Yes a few feelings of vomiting but did not, that was only because the drops went too high when he counted them. Myself, I have lost foot pain from the 5th metatarsal, arthritic fingers easing up and bending better (its never been too bad). We are very happy with the results and get our supplies from Edmonton Canada.

  944. Re: my post on November 11.

    I have received the book, Part II. Several times. Thank you, everyone who’s sent it!

    No need for any more copies ;-))

    Marko

  945. Lin

    Could you please explain how MMS can attack heavy metals. Since they are not organic – how can MMS destroy them?

  946. Dave

    Question: Since Cl is a -1 charge and dioxide would be a -4 charge how would this solution accept 5 electrons? Would not it accept 5 protons from the pathogen?

  947. New

    I am experiencing a large parasite traveling around my shoulder and head.
    I have gone to doctors and their expensive lab
    and office protocols. Of course I am back to
    square one. I have had to endured a doctor
    who says he is an ears nose and throat doctor
    and he sends me to a brain doctor. I have gone
    through hyperbaric oxygen…this doctor was featuring his nest with making me go through
    40 treatments. He also forced me to take allergy
    test (twice) and blood vile tests. I have not yet
    received the test results for this experience. I
    suppose I don’t have any allergies he can find to
    make money off me for??????
    I now refuse take home kits for parasites -the
    dozen doctors sent it to wrong labs and refused to find the correct lab to find parasite results.
    I tried to get a blood test for parasites and the last doctor acted like it was asking for the world
    to end????
    I know I have a monster in me but these doctors don’t want me to successfully get it out without
    giving them all my money.

    Will this work for me?????????????
    I know I can loose weight once my head feels
    better.

    The last doctor told me I had no lyme disease
    or co infections.

    How I wish I can get off this vicious circle.
    Will this stuff attack large parasites???????

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  949. We are having incredible results from LSP. I had chronic sinusitis using prescription 15 years I now use LSP as nasal spray. Severe acid reflux gone in two days. Chronic addiction to food If I ate anything I would be more hungry after I finished eating. Now food addiction gone. I have tripled my energy levels using living streams probiotic! Dave livingstreamsprobiotic.biz

  950. Myles

    Hello…need info please. I have been on MMs for about 10 days. Started with one drop and increased one drop every dose. When I got to 7 drops, had extreme loose bowels that lasted for about 10 hours. Next dose I decreased a drop and was ok all the way up to 13 drops. then had extreme loose bowels and nausea for about 10 hours. Dropped back one drop to 12 and still experienced problems. Then went back another drop to 11 this morning and am astill having bad effects. can you offer any assistance? I don’t want to discontinue using the product, but am feeling real lousey. Thanks…..Myles

  951. An alternative health practioner told me that ginger and tumeric — mixed half and half — take a 1/2 teaspoon morning and night will cause the blood to un-stick. Sticky blood could cause an elevation in BP.

    I love this chloring dioxide. It has given life back to dozens of my friends and clients already. I’ve helped over 200 people already get the Miracle Mineral MMS.

    I have some unique testimonials at the reikiranch blogspot and I’m interested in collecting even more. please come visit.

    I’ve taken 12 bottles to Panama and they are very happy to try it because Dengue fever is running wild there.

  952. Rich, the following is my opinion, and should not be construed in any ways as advice.

    To get any intelligent understanding about what is happening to your friend, more information would be helpful, and she should consult someone knowledgeable that can guide her through this. However, chlorine dioxide in the body does not “make” one’s blood pressure go higher. It’s probably going up before it goes down.

    The proclivity for blood pressure to be borderline high, or go high, has to do with factors that took time to create, such as plaque buildup and blocked liver, kidney, gallbladder, or arterial passageways, and thick, poorly oxygenated blood, which make the heart have to work harder to get it through the system. They come as a result of eating nutritionally poor food (which is more a rule than the exception these days).

    These factors point to a magnesium deficiency (which could be helped by magnesium chloride), a need for a liver or gallbladder flush, drinking lots of high alkaline water, and very likely other mineral and nutritional components that would stimulate the body’s full enzymatic response, that would naturally normalize blood pressure.

    Chlorine dioxide does not provide these components. It does however, take away some of the residue, the garbage, that tends to build up in the body in the absence of enough mineral nourishment. However, it is not an end-all until itself.

    On the other hand, it’s also very likely that the elevation in BP is temporary, and still should normalize with continued use. It is working on, and eliminating something that was already doing harm to her system.

  953. Rich Foltz

    I have a friend who after taking MMS for several weeks,noticed that her Already boderline blood pressure increased to high readings.She is not on any BP medication.

    Can the Sodium Chloride in MMS be a factor?

    Is there any contraindications on the use of MMS as in High blood pressure or other medications?

  954. Special precautions must be employed in cases of glucose-6-phosphate-dehydrogenase deficiency disease, as these patients are especially sensitive to oxidants of all kinds. Nevertheless, oral acidified sodium chlorite solutions might even be found safe and effective in them, but probably will need to be administered at lower doses.

    Now this is why one must do their homework when fooling around with stuff like this! This may very well be a viable option to the medical establishment’s crap, but any alternate method should be checked thoroughly.

    How many of you even KNOW if they have G6PD? I know I do.

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  956. Hi Sara,

    That’s a great question. I’ll be talking to an MD who uses MMS tomorrow, and pose it to him. As well as Winfried’s question about MMS and pacemakers. I’ll get back with you on this. Regards,

    Adam…

  957. sarah

    Can people with an uncoated stent in an artery in
    their heart safely use MMS ?

    Thank you for any information.

    sarah

  958. winfried

    I’m very much interested in taking MMS (in fact cannot wait starting), but I realize that I have several crowns. One is a rather ol one, where the metal basis becomes visible.
    Will MMS have a negative effect on my crowns? Can I use it or not?
    My father has a pacemaker. What about that? Is it allowed to use MMS then.
    Please let me know.

    Winfried

  959. Renee,

    Jim Humble left a pretty clear audit trail of his travels to Africa in his first book, which is available for free via a pdf download. He indicates that he traveled to Malawi from February to April 2006, and lists the names and positions of responsibility of the people he interacted with. He names the medical hospital that he worked with (MARS). All of this and more is in his book, even photocopies of documents from the clinical trials. That’s the first place to start.

  960. Solarman

    I too, see no response to the post on 9/21/2007 and would like to know why!

  961. Renee

    Phaelosopher – Thanks for the great info! It seems like MMS could be such a huge gift to the world, it makes me wonder why I see no response to the post on 9/21/2007, when Dr Roger Taylor wrote: “A relative of mine is UN Representative in Malawi, and is much concerned with the serious health situation there. He could be instrumental in getting MMS into general use, but needs further evidence about the trials. Could phaelosopher tell me how I can find out where the trials were done. Which prison? Names of the doctors involved?
    This would be a gift to humanity.”

    My husband is also interested in trying to spread information about this in third world countries, largely on the basis of the reported phenomenal results accomplished in Malawi. He has tried to follow up on getting more detailed information on the Malawi trials , with no result.

    Can you help?

  962. Jeff Azkoul

    Do knowledgeable people think it is safe/O.K. to use MMS when you have artifical joints in your body?

  963. Bruford

    I am taking TRAVATAN eye drops for glacuma, is this okay with MMS or will MMS think its a toxin and try to rid it.

    Thanks,

  964. Regarding heavy metal chelation, Jim Humble commented to me that MMS will quickly chelate heavy metals. This indicates expectation of die off reactions of course. (In my experience, if you do experience nausea soon after an MMS dose, take 2-4mg vit C immediately to deactivate it and prevent vomiting – you can also add a few capsules of activated charcoal, then go down to the previous tolerable dose the next day)

    After personally suffering from my own health crisis involving a broken amalgam, I tried Modifilan which did nothing for me. Some months later I was introduced to PCA-RX by Maxam Labs, which is far surpassing anything in the way of safe and effective chelation and is so easy to comply with, especially for children. After only on the product for 1 month, my incessant leg pain finally went away and I will be finishing a full 3 month detox when funds allow. I cannot emphasize how important I think it is for any adult to do a detox with PCA-Rx. And it of course is reported to eliminate autistic behaviors and even Parkinsons.

    My opinion of MMS is that it is a very powerful quick acting molecule that has the potential to change the world and needs to be handled with great care by knowlegeable practitioners, especially with anyone having a urine pH of less than 7.5, which most of us likely are way below that with our modern convenience diets.

    God Bless…

  965. Where do I buy MMS. A FRIEND GAVE ME A SUPPLY WHICH I HAVE BROUGHT TO ME TO INDONESIA. MANY PEOPLE HERE NEED THIS AMAZING AND WONDERFUL SUPPLEMENT. WHERE DO I ORDER IT FOR INTERNATIONAL DELIVERY…..?????

  966. BobK

    This article (partial abstract here) suggests that oxidative damage is a major and common shared mechanism of action by which antibiotics kill pathogens and by inference lends credence to the use of MMS solution for induction of oxidative cellular reactions and potential pathogen death.

    doi:10.1016/j.cell.2007.06.049

    Article
    A Common Mechanism of Cellular Death Induced by Bactericidal Antibiotics

    Michael A. Kohanski1, 2, 5, 6, Daniel J. Dwyer1, 3, 6, Boris Hayete1, 4, Carolyn A. Lawrence1, 2 and James J. Collins1, 2, 3, 4, ,

    Here we show that the three major classes of bactericidal antibiotics, regardless of drug-target interaction, stimulate the production of highly deleterious hydroxyl radicals in Gram-negative and Gram-positive bacteria, which ultimately contribute to cell death. We also show, in contrast, that bacteriostatic drugs do not produce hydroxyl radicals. We demonstrate that the mechanism of hydroxyl radical formation induced by bactericidal antibiotics is the end product of an oxidative damage cellular death pathway involving the tricarboxylic acid cycle, a transient depletion of NADH, destabilization of iron-sulfur clusters, and stimulation of the Fenton reaction….

  967. I am curious, since you seem to understand chemistry;
    1) How is MMS and ClO2 different from the action of the OH- ion generated with electrolysis of water that has also been shown to affect microbes and cancer cells?
    2) If the chlorine dioxide is oxidizing the bad guys, aren’t there a lot of oxygen free radicals released that must then be neutralized before they damage healthy tissue?
    3) Do you think the combination of ionized structured water with the OH- ion and the ClO2 would be an additive, synergistic approach to health problems?

  968. Carol

    Linda………..Here is my email address…tootles@aapt.net.au ……email me, and I will send you the Pesto recipe. It is easy to make, and delicious used on vegies and/or bread or just as you like. Three years ago, I was diagnosed with a right kidney growth (in the sinus of kidney). Doctors wanted to take my kidney out, but they did not give me enough evidence for doing this. I went to a Nutritionist/Herbalist and he said that the bore water that I had been drinking (that’s all the water we have where I live), had calcified my system. I was a vegan, non drinker/non smoker & no tea or coffee & very healthy person. I still have both kidneys and my blood pressure has gone down, and everybody tells me that I look so well. The herbalist said that it would take 5 years at least to gain my health back. I have only used good food and herbs prescribed by herbalist and no medications at all (was never on medications prior to this either), so now, I feel that I can use the MMS as well. I use the Pesto from time to time & have shared this with others who love it. Just shared this information with you, because I have always been healthy, and this illness came on me very suddenly & people who know me couldn’t understand why because of my healthy lifestyle. I use distilled water now. ……Carol

  969. I started the protocol in the last week of Oct and have made it to the 15 drops and am now on 6 drops maintenance. At 4 drops I did upchuck and had 1 day of diarrhea after that I started to feel much better.
    I am 74 yrs old and have had colon cancer and had Candida albacans for many years that I tried to get rid of. Well MMS got rid of it and feel better now than I have felt for 20 years. I had bad circulation in my legs and feet. That I think was from the fungus . As now that is all gone. This product is safe if you do as the protocol says to do. I will try to help people that need it as I bought 6 bottles from Canada. The biggest problem is getting people to believe that it will work. I will just keep trying to help them anyway.

  970. pt49

    Herxing appears to be the result of too many toxins being released into the blood stream to quickly.

    Toxins build up in our systems are are stored in the liver. Too much of a buildup of toxins can cause liver damage, such as in cirrhosis in alchoholics for instance.

    When a person goes on a liver cleanse diet, or any diet that causes toxins to be released from the liver, they end up in the bloodstream. If you don’t drink enough water to flush your system of these toxins you will get an itchy rash, mainly on the forearms and back of the legs.

    I have experienced this after taking a herbal supplement that cleaned the liver and it is not pleasent, though it’s tolerable. Simply upping the water intake to 6 to 8 glasses of distilled or purified water a day fixes the problem.

    Although I’ve yet to use MMS it is understandable that it could cause a release of toxins from the liver.

    Jim Humble does state in his first book that you should take plenty of water when using MMS.

  971. pt49

    I downloaded both books and the audio’s and read both books and also listened to both audio’s all in the last 24 hours.
    I must say I’m extremely impressed and I’m in the process of finding supplies so I can make and distribute MMS myself.

  972. I would like to get Carol’s recipe for Cilantro Pesto, also I have enjoyed reading the comments, I have been on the MMS for over a week now, have built up to 15 drops, got nauseous & then had diarrhea for couple hours, I am taking this as a good sign, wonder if I should take 15 drops again tonite? I a also on Budwig diet, for breast cancer.

  973. Stephen, it would help to be specific. What specifically doesn’t make sense to you? Clearly, the MMS protocol is making sense to many people who have the courage to assess its merits on their own (not relying on unfounded naysaying), and try the protocol, and are getting real results. The name of the article starts with “No Miracle…”, so that point is understood. It is no miracle. Your point that is toxic, “like chlorine,” is fallacious, because chlorine dioxide is NOT chlorine, and behaves in a totally different way, which you’re not acknowledging. It only acts on diseased, not healthy cells. It produces no carcinogens. You do not take the very low concentrations into consideration, otherwise your vague misstatements couldn’t begin to sound valid. Your declaration of “hoax” is only that, a declaration, which is not supported by facts.

  974. http://www.livingstreamsprobiotic.biz/ This is the super one of a kind Probiotic that That Jim Humble spoke of. I have had great success with weight loss and chronic fatigue!

  975. stephen schiller

    Sometimes it is good to hear a different viewpoint. Regarding MMC: many of the scientific and chemical claims don’t make sense or are nonsense. chlorine dioxide is a good disinfectent, sure, but it is no mircalue cure for anything. And while it is less toxic than chlorine it is still toxic and similar to chorine in many ways — including being a powerful oxidizing agent. For decades now people have been touting anit-oxidants for curing everything. Well guess what, an oxidizing agent is excatly the opposite and causes damage that anit-oxidants are supposed to protect you from. It doens’t make any sense. Basically just another health hoax.

  976. britt

    Want to try the MMS and wonder what herxing is?

  977. I have a similar problem as Luise had – only, I can’t get Part II. Sounds made-up, but it’s not:

    First, there is no Slovenia (my country) in the ordering form. It means I can’t order it.

    Second, I don’t use plastc money (except VISA ELECTRON), nor PayPal or anything else. It means I can’t pay.

    Third, I have contacted Jim Humble, but there is no response so far…

    So, if anyone can send me Part II of the book, I’d be much obliged. My E-mail is
    sacrament@sacrament.kibla.si

    Normally, I wouldn’t ask for such copyright violation, but in Part I (downloaded last weekend), on side 126 of 127, Jim Humble says:

    “If you are short now and don’t have the 10 bucks for book II, send me an email according to the instructions given on the copyright page at the beginning of this book and I will email you a free copy.”

    Basically, I don’t have 10 bucks – simply because I can’t pay them…

    I’m working with Ibogaine, which is legal in Slovenia, and quite some opiate addicts got rid of their addictions wit the help of Ibogaine. I have a feeling that success rate (which is around 75% at the moment) could be even higher with the use of MMS…

  978. Carol

    Arika……..I read your mercury problem. Essiac tea is said to counteract the effect of aluminium, lead and mercury. Also, I have a recipe for Cilantro Pesto, which can be used on vegies or just have it on bread or toast, and it does the same thing as Essiac Tea. I have made the Cilantro Pesto, and it is very easy to make and very tasty too. If you email me, I can send you the Cilantro recipe. Also, Neil has a website which sounds good as well. Happy if any of this helps you. My Essiac info came from the book “Cancer – why we’re still dying to know the truth”. Carol

  979. Terry

    Fascinated by Chlorine Dioxide for a couple of years, as American Biologics has Dioxy-Chlor. See now without a proper acid to activate, it doesn’t do all that much. Don’t think in homeopathic form it’s strong enough ..with all the spliced Ag fungi, etc being sprayed into the environment.

    Having had mild cases of hepatitis A and meningitis.. I was concerned abt overdoing any detox, lest it trash my hormones. How to detox without more harm is a serious problem for many with severe allergies. And then I found MMS… Bless Jim Humble for figuring out how best to use it.

    Doing the protocol I got slightly creative bcz I was getting alot of sensory and neuro symptoms being activated at the higher dose. Suspect my gut nerves were getting irritated. Someone sent me info about Glycerine helping to detox, so I just added 1/8 tsp of that to the drink. Sleep was great and today I feel wonderful. The aches and pains are much reduced. Can see the detox is still happening in my urine.

    Thought it might help a few here to take the edge off of the herxing. Bet 2-3 drops of colloidal silver added in wd be great too, and possibly Lugol’s iodine. Chlorine Dioxide is a carrier and a killer.

  980. Louise

    I just wanted to say thankyou to everyone who has sent me a copy of the 1st book. Very interesting reading and the information is very much appreciated.

  981. Daniel

    Hello,

    My father was recently diagnosed with a form of leukemia (CLL). Immediately afterwards, he decided to make some extremely beneficial changes to lifestyle, diet and supplementation. Now he is on a daily regiment of Essiac, a mushroom based immune booster (pill form), milk thistle (liquid form) and a herbal blood cleanser (major ingredient burdock root). He sais that he feels much better and a lot more energized since he began this regiment 2 weeks ago. I’ll also admit that he has finally regained colour back in his face and doesn’t nap during the day anymore.
    My question is as follows; could he also begin the MMS protocol while supplementing with all of the aformentioned alternative meds? could there be a reaction with a product that might cancel something out rendering it ineffective or could the whole thing work synergistically to build a super immune system?

    comments…?

  982. John,

    You may indeed experience herxing if you take MMS. You don’t have to have lyme disease either. I experienced it one day while taking only 4 drops. It was what my body needed to do, given the opportunity to rid itself of the “denatured” toxins. Many people with Lyme disease are now using MMS, though personally, I’ve not heard much feedback as yet.

  983. Andrea, Thanks for the heads up! Link fixed!

  984. Dear Adam,
    Thanks for this article!!!
    One thing: under “Hear It” at the end of the article, the link to the first podcast is bad. I managed to get there anyway by deleting the extra “www.http.com//” from the link, but you might want to fix that….
    Andrea

  985. This is for Arika with the mercury poisoning. Arika there is a fabulous, inexpensive product called Modifilan, it is brown seaweed extract. It will take mercury and other heavy metals, including radioactive isotopes, out of the body better than chelation agents. It is gentle and effective. Many people have felt better who had mercury problems. http://www.modifilan.com

  986. Ray

    The previous question regarding oxidative stress is an important one that has not been addressed in any satisfactory way.

    Is there any reason to believe that the oxidizing action of chlorine dioxide will cause damage in the form of free radicals?

  987. Arika

    First, you get nauseated, something that nauseates you is nauseous; you don’t get nauseous. They make the same mistake on “House” frequently, also.

    Now: you don’t explain how this stuff gets mercury out of one’s system. I have severe mercury poisoning and have been crippled for several years. (Yeah, amalgams do a lot more than just rob you of lifetime memories!) Chelation has been harsh and slow. Once I got my amalgams out I thought chelation would take care of it and I’d get well. But it didn’t go down that way. DMPS was harsh (she put me on 500 mg 3x day, where before it was 200 mg) and it chelated so much magnesium I could barely walk and had to discontinue. I have used protein aminos that seemed to be more effective than the DMPS was before I got the amalgams out, but I’m not sure how fast the mercury is getting out. But it gets in your cells after awhile, doesn’t stay in your blood, and it’s a lot of effort and supplements (I am so sick of taking capsules!) and I have to try and remember psillium husk powder every day and I’m tired of all these protocols!

    You have not given any information on the chelation or any other disposal of heavy metals, you just mention them vaguely. Let’s dive into that subject.

  988. John

    What is the effect on herxing? Does the MMS cause herxing if the person has lyme diesease?
    Has anybody tried this for chronic lyme diesease? That is undetected lyme that someone has had for many years, two or more, and now they know they have it.

  989. Julie — people aren’t believing in MMS because someone is “nice”… they are considering it because the science indicates that it should work on a number of health issues. Only experience is going to give us a definitive answer on that. Do your homework. The decision, and the responsibility for your health and well-being, is ultimately yours as well.

  990. Arthur — MMS will not conflict with anything that is alkalizing on the body. I’m not sure why you’d want to continue with alcohol and illegal drugs while (I’m assuming) you’re attempting to restore your health. Alcohol isn’t helping you. Can’t speak to the drugs, though I’d venture a guess that they’re not helping you either.

  991. Hi Hafiz… no one can say that “MMS cures” AIDS. What we can say is that it removes many of the factors that can contribute to a weakened immune system. If you find that you do indeed have AIDS (and even if you do not), I would suggest that you take very resolute steps to alkalize your body, through mineral — particularly magnesium — replenishment. MMS would not hurt either.

  992. hafiz

    does MMS cure aids decease 100%…? does blood test result become negative upon using MMS…? i’m afraid if i got aids… pls give me guide…

  993. Many of you might find this web site to be of benefit. While long term use of MMS vote is still out, short term is very promising…

    http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXilus.htm

  994. julie

    I am very preocuped to take MMs. I would like to know if anyone has contect Dr.Hector Romero in Mexico. I send a e-mail but nothing.
    I want this to be true,but I want some data on that and I can’t find any. I see people beliving and taking it. Don’t you think this is to serius. Just because someone is a nice person and say great things, things that we want to belived, does not make it the true.

  995. I plan to read Jim Humble’s two books and start MMS as soon as they arrive. Will I be able to continue to take the following supplements: Woodroot and Burdoct (for the blood), saw palmento (prostate), salmon oil (pre-diabetes; and baby asprin (colon) and Metamucil on a daily basis? Also, should one also avoid all illegal drugs and legal ones to include alcohol? Your response is appreciated. Thank you.

  996. Dr.Carrie Settlemoir

    I am so excited to begin this protocol for myself and my 11 year old daughter. However, I did see there are some things that need to be taken into account w/ dental fillings/crowns…Our apptmnt to remove the old materials via Huggins protocol w/ bio friendly materials isn’t untilNov14th Should we wait until afterwards? where can I get info on this? Thanks – hope this works b/c I have a lot of patients that could also use help

  997. Mariana, what kind of activator did you use? If it was vinegar, the first step would be to use citric acid. Also, you say you’re losing weight… are you also feeling a loss of energy?

  998. Louise

    I would love to be able to read the part one pdf. I have downloaded it three times but always get the message that the file was damaged and could not be rebuilt. I have emailed Jim Humble but not received a response. I am able to download other pdf docs no problems, so don’t know what is happening. If anyone hsa a working copy of the pdf would they be willing to email it to me? My email address is luckylouie@bigblue.net.au

    Thanks

  999. Mariana Ornelas

    I have had loose bowel movements for the last several months after a trip to Mexico. Two weeks ago I started with 6 drops as recommended by the owner of a supplement store who sold it to me. It cleared up immeditely for three days, then returned. He then recommended I take 12 drops since I’ve had this condition for quite awhile. I’m not any better, if fact I’m losing weight. Today I reduced the dose by 2 drops as recommended on the website. Should I go further? I need help with the the proper dosage.

  1000. Jeff Boggs

    Does MMS react with other compounds to create anything biologically dangerous. I currently use colloidial silver for Hep C and would be concerned with the salt bi-products of MMS combining in a negative way with the silver ions.

  1001. I have a blog that is keeping up with information on MMS. Anyone wanting information on how to use MMS, what it is and the connections to Jim Humble’s pages and malaria organization can find it readily available at http://www.HealthSalon.org found in the MMS Testimonials thread.

    I am interested in locating websites that originate in Africa that would be interested in linking to my blog so that people in Africa can have more access to MMS information. Please contact me through http://www.HealthSalon.org if you have any ideas.

    You can communicate with me by making a comment in the comment section on any article I have posted in http://www.HealthSalon.org and I should be contacting you in a day or so.

  1002. This is fascinating material. As always I find something new here I have not seen before. I must read it again, because parts trigger that worrisome aspect of the brain: is it safe? is it safe? is it safe?

    I appreciate you sharing this and your other articles. I searched your site to see if you had any information on changes in iris color. I often search and research, trying to amass different sources of natural/holistic healing approaches, but have just started researching as to iris color changes. If you have an article here I was unable to find, would you mind leaving a comment with the link?

    Many thanks.

  1003. FRU NGANG

    Thanks Odigoblu for your comments.

  1004. Odigoblu

    Hi there Fru Ngang
    What I have been reading and understanding from my personal knowledge of dealing with cancer holistically is that you need to start this protocol slowly. One drop per day working your way up to 20 per day. I have not tried this yet but I will be and I presume this protocol would be like experiencing a healing crises when fasting or doing a master cleanse. I believe the more toxic your inner terrain the worse you will feel until all those toxins are out of the body. So to me it would make sense to either do an enema or help your body along with something natural This obviosly on a daily basis until all toxins have been removed from the body.
    I hope this will help, this is just my opinion. If anybody else out there can be more specific I would appreciate the info myself.

  1005. FRU NGANG

    From the literature presented on MMS, Chlorine dioxide is an oxidizing agent. And the process of oxidative stress has been associated with pathogenesis. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant.

    Is there any cause for concern that severe conditions may beexperienced after trying the treatment?

    Hope to hear from you tomorrow.

  1006. FRU NGANG

    Good day Phaelosopher.
    I have spent the whole day of today since one of my colleagues forwarded JIM HUMBLE’sbook to me. I do not doubt it. I live in Cameroon, were diseases, especially AIDS is so rampant with those who can not afford to go hospitals. Antiretrovirals are free in Cameroon but the people who are HIV positive need to stay healthy for as long as possible before before getting ARVs that will last them all their lives.

    Last week, Prof Luc Montagnier, the French codiscoverer of the HIV postulated oxygen explosion as a means to erradicate the HIV virus in humans over state television CRTV.

    Please can I get a simple means of generating the magic mineral at home, in Africa. This I may pass around to my friends who will it around to others. It may help humanity, especially the dosage for AIDS treatment.

    Thanks a lot.

  1007. JayZee… I did a search on titanium contraindications, and came up with the following in Wikipedia:

    “There are no absolute contraindications to implant dentistry, however there are some systemic, behavioral and anatomic considerations that should be considered.”

    Now that’s strictly in a dental context. Further searching for femoral prosthetic applications, suggest that the only contraindications considered, are before implanting the prosthesis. There appear to be no issues concerning post implant interactions.

    The chlorine dioxide only lasts roughly 2 hours in the body before it breaks down. In that time, it will act on bacterial, viral, and metal and organic (parasites) particulates. That would be a whole lot of disinfecting that can be done, particularly on the lymies.

    I wonder whether any of her doctors hesitated to prescribe toxic medication for concern over the potential impact on the titanium?

  1008. JayZee

    I have a friend who is a candidate for this protocol as she recently found out she “may” have subclinical lymes, after all the years she suffered at the hands of her “team” of physicians.

    Her biggest fear is that because of the titanium rods in her back she hesitates to try anything not approved by her back surgeon. :sigh:

    Can anyone of the top of your head think of a reason mms “might” be contraindicated in people with titanium rods in their body?

    Thanks in advance. JayZee

  1009. Odigoblu

    Great I happen to live on on Island in the middle of the atlantic. I have cancer I am also strapped for cash but want to get well. My question could I find this on the Island I live on and How would I mix this up to make sure I kill cancer cells and not myself.
    I would appreciate your help and I also read on the internet under wikipedia that it can be bought under the trade name of purite. sO IF ANYBODY OUT THERE KNOWS WOULD this putite be a 28 % mixture. Sorry I have no idea as the language here is so Portuguese and I cant speak the language. Tks for all help.

    EXTRACT FROM WIKIPEDIA
    The main application of sodium chlorite is the generation of chlorine dioxide for bleaching and stripping of textiles, pulp, and paper. It is also used for disinfection in a few municipal water treatment plants after conversion to chlorine dioxide. An advantage in this application, as compared to the more commonly used chlorine, is that trihalomethanes are not produced from organic contaminants. Sodium chlorite, NaClO2 also finds application as a component in therapeutic rinses, mouthwashes, toothpastes and gels, mouth sprays chewing gums and lozenges, and also in contact lens cleaning solution under the trade name purite.

    In organic synthesis, sodium chlorite is frequently used for the oxidation of aldehydes to carboxylic acids. The reaction is usually performed in the presence of a chlorine scavenger.

    Sodium chlorite, like many oxidizing agents, should be protected from inadvertent contamination by organic materials to avoid the formation of an explosive mixture.

  1010. Dr Roger Taylor

    A relative of mine is UN Representative in Malawi, and is much concerned with the serious health situation there. He could be instrumental in getting MMS into general use, but needs further evidence about the trials. Could phaelosopher tell me how I can find out where the trials were done. Which prison? Names of the doctors involved?
    This would be a gift to humanity.

  1011. Leonida,

    I’m not aware of anyone’s experience with nigari that compares with how chlorine dioxide has shown itself to be safe and effective for human intake. People who are seeking such remedies are not as concerned about how cheap it is, but whether it works. It’s wonderful that the MMS protocol is inexpensive, but it’s fantastic that it actually does what it’s purported to do.

  1012. Hi Marie,

    Yes, it’s okay to give MMS to a dog. Jim Humble has advised that animals should receive 1 drop per 25 lbs in weight, same as for children. Even though your dog is only 10 lbs, due to the advanced stage of her condition, you might start with a single drop of MMS, plus the activator, then use another eye-dropper or syringe to get it down.

  1013. marie corrigan

    i recently ordered the MMS….i haven’t received it but when i do i was considering giving some to my dog…she has congestive heart failure. she is only around 10 #’s. is it ok to give to her and how much would i give her?

  1014. Leonida

    I have found information that a product called nigari is also magnesium chloride. Nigari is used mostly as a tofu coagulant but apparently can also be used to make your own pre-made MMS. It is easily available for purchase on the web and much cheaper than the pre-made MMS.

  1015. Sodium chlorite is readily available, but only in bulk amounts to businesses; 100 lb bags. The MMS producers have purchased these larger quantities, and parsed them down for the relatively small amounts required for human ingestion. The “MMS” is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled water.

  1016. Leonida

    I’m not able to find sodium chlorite for purchase on the internet. Can it be purchased by the public? I found a couple of vendors selling MMS. Is that the same as sodium chlorite? How are they able to sell it as MMS but I can’t find it for purchase as sodium chlorite?

  1017. It’s in Part I of Jim Humble’s book: Chapter 3, page 7 of the 2nd edition (it’s in the original too).

  1018. I am an MMS experimentor. I read your article with interest. Can you please tell me where you got the following information that is in your article? I would like to have the sources so I can read it for myself and to use it as evidence of effectiveness if appropriate.

    “Red blood cells that are normal carriers of oxygen throughout the body do not differentiate between chlorine dioxide and oxygen. Therefore, after ingesting the MMS/chlorine dioxide-rich solution, red blood cells pick up chlorine dioxide ions that are deposited on the stomach wall where it normally gathers nutrients of various kinds before journeying through the body.

    Then, when the red blood cells armed with chlorine dioxide encounter parasites, fungi, or diseased cells that all have low pH and a positive ionic charge, the “aliens” are destroyed along with the chlorine dioxide ion. If no such encounters occur, the chlorine dioxide will be carried to a point in the body where oxygen normally oxidizes poisons and other harmful agents.

    If the chlorine dioxide doesn’t hit anything that can set it off, it will deteriorate, and thus lose an electron or two. This may allow it to combine with a very important substance that the immune system uses to make hypochlorous acid. This compound kills pathogens, killer cells, and even cancerous cells. Hypochlorous acid is so important, its diminished presence in the body is described medically by the term myeloperoxidase deficiency.”

  1019. Thanks Dawn, I’ve incorporated your comments into the text. Regards,
    Adam…

  1020. Dawn Alvarez

    In light of how many people are overweight I think you’re leaving out a significant piece of information–that it’s recommended 3 drops of MMS per 25 lbs. That puts anyone over 125 lbs at the 15 drop limit you mention.
    Mr. Humble recommended that I (at 275 lbs)need to get up to 33 drops and thereafter a 10 drop dose for maintenance.
    Also, in step 2 of the Procedure you need to add 1/2 tsp of activator for anything over 6 drops!

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